RX 7900 GRE vs RX 7900 XT | Is The 7900 XT Worth $200 More?
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- čas přidán 17. 05. 2024
- In today's video, I compare the AMD Radeon RX 7900 GRE against the AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT. The RX 7900 GRE launched on February 27, 2024 for $549 USD. It has 16 GB of VRAM and is positioned as a 1440p GPU.
The RX 7900 XT launched on December 13, 2022 for $899 USD. It has 20 GB of VRAM and is positioned as a high end 1440p card or low end 4K card.
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🎬Chapters
🕒 0:00 - 7900 XT vs 7900 GRE
🕒 0:55 - 7900 GRE Overclocking Fix (Hardware Unboxed)
🕒 1:30 - Test Settings and PC Test Bench
🕒 2:36 - Thank You Patreon Members
🕒 3:08 - Modern Warfare 2 1440p 7900 XT vs 7900 GRE
🕒 3:45 - Assassins Creed Valhalla 1440p 7900 XT vs 7900 GRE
🕒 4:22 - CyberPunk 2077 1440p 7900 XT vs 7900 GRE
🕒 4:54 - God of War 2018 1440p 7900 XT vs 7900 GRE
🕒 5:44 - Hogwarts Legacy 1440p 7900 XT vs 7900 GRE
🕒 6:36 - Starfield 1440p 7900 XT vs 7900 GRE
🕒 7:13 - Helldivers 2 1440p 7900 XT vs 7900 GRE
🕒 8:14 - Modern Warfare 2 4K 7900 XT vs 7900 GRE
🕒 8:52 - Assassins Creed Valhalla 4K 7900 XT vs 7900 GRE
🕒 9:32 - CyberPunk 2077 4K 7900 XT vs 7900 GRE
🕒 10:15 - Hogwarts Legacy 4K 7900 XT vs 7900 GRE
🕒 10:50 - Starfield 4K 7900 XT vs 7900 GRE
🕒 11:39 - Final Thoughts 7900 XT vs 7900 GRE
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The 7800 xt was the go-to for 1440p, but with this at just 50 dollars more, the 7900 GRE is the new 1440p go-to. The new OC update, which is allowing around 10-15 percent more performance increase on average, justifies buying it now. Can't beat those thermals either.
I agree 100%!
With $50 more u get 7900xt
@@happybuggy1582Depends on the market.
@@happybuggy1582impossible, 7900 gre 550 and cheapest 7900xt was maybe 650 currently at 699
@@happybuggy1582 Usually any 7900xt currently going under 699 is a scam (Sapphires Amazon page gets hijacked alot for some reason).
This a good video that puts all info side by side in one video. It really helps people trying to make a decision on which of the two cards to buy.
LOL thank you.
Thanks for the review!
No problem! Thanks for watching!
Thanks man! this help me a lot
I’m happy to hear that! Thanks for letting me know!
You're making me glad I subscribed with every video I watch.
Well done on the vid, keep it up. Next time id love to see a MW3 benchmark (it has a built in one), MW2 is a bit outdated and less optimized.
Thank you. I don't own MW3 currently. I have a hard time using funds right now to buy that game only for a benchmark run here and there. I heard MW3 and MW2 were very similar and built off the same engine. So I figured the benchmark results would be similar as well. If someone has an extra key for MW3 or something that they want to share, I would definitely add MW3 to my benchmark suite.
Thank you for this information. Appreciate you 👍👍
Thank you very much, I really want this video 😊
Hello Erock, quick question. Do you think the low Temps. is specific to the PowerColor Hellhound? wondering if there would be similar Temps. on Asrock, Saphire, Red devil, Fighter and Gigabyte 7900 GRE cards? would be nice to know before me and my son build a PC..thanks
The Hellhound is the coldest. Excellent question. Yes, the Hellhound specifically is the coldest.
@@ErockOnTech Must be one hell of a cooler, 290w dissipated that efficient. What are the fan-rpm levels?
Great comparison! I loved the line, "...give me a break." Right lol
Thank you! LOL so true. I know someone will complain. They always do haha.
Hello, Thanks for this!! I am looking forward to build new pc, so I would be glad if you could help me a bit. I want pc that will last at least 5years without mayor upgrades. I want it to be easily upgradable so I will go with AM5 socket chip Ryzen 7 7700x or 7 7800x3d.. And now to my biggest question: do you think that 7900 gre is future proof enough. Or should I go for 7900XT or expensive 4070 super (with this card i am scared of only 12gb ram) (In my country the price increase from gre to xt is around 25% and from gre to super under 7%.
(One more question how big diference does the manufacturer make. You have 7900 gre from power color but in my region I have only gigabyte or sapphire avalible)
Thanks for helping out!! And sorry for soo many questions, I am new to pc building.
There isn't any significant difference. Even cheap versions like the Powercolor Fighter keep cool enough for heavy daily use and the power limits in the BIOS do not allow overclocking to the degree that these cheaper coolers would start to fall short.
Hello to you and first of all, a big thank you for your time. I don't know much about computers. I personally placed an order with Amazon for a 7900 GRE. However, I'm not sure which processor to choose. So I opted for an i5 13600KF. Do I have a good choice? Thank you very much and good luck. Jean ;-)
Thank you for the kind words! Yes that processor is fine for sure. I’ve personally been having some latency issues with my Intel processors. I’m thinking of switching back to AMD. But not everyone experiences these latency issues.
I got the Sapphire Pulse RX 7900 XT 20GB + 7800X3D 6 month ago and is very good combo 20 FPS is alot FPS diference it time will see what im talking about 👍
It is a lot of FPS difference. Which benchmark are you referring to?
Hey Erock! Thanks for this comparison, and many thanks to Shadow Fox for lending the cards. Just a heads up: You were experiencing a CPU bottleneck at 1440p in Hogwarts Legacy. That's why the 1% Lows were the same. I know it's hard to believe given that you're running a 14900K, but I've seen this problem more times than I can count over the years, and I can easily recognize it when I see it. You can see the problem go away at 4K.
Sounds good. I appreciate the feedback! Yeah Hogwarts Legacy is a super CPU bound title. More Unreal Engine games seem to be that way lately. 2023 had a lot of games like that.
Which driver was the GRE tests done on? 24.3.1 (the one that unlocked the memory, should be slightly better at stock settings aswell)
Respectfully, I covered this in the video. I said it was before the OC fix. The driver version is listed on screen at 1:53
Curious on the HH's heat and sound, live in a hot country and it seems this version tends to be way cooler and quieter than the power colour version.. even then it's a good toss up between the 7800xt HH and the GRE, not sure 5-15 frames is worth an extra $150AUD.
Glad to see this video honestly. It's already a tough call between the 7800 XT and 7900 GRE but now it comes down to making the leap to the next step up for 1440p IMO. Especially with the GRE's recent memory OC for those who are comfortable with it. I guess it doesn't make it any easier to also consider the last gen Navi 21 spread as well. Either way, best of luck to anyone shopping and thanks for the vid!
I’m glad you appreciate it! Thank you for watching and continuing to support! Yeah AMD has people covered at every price point now. I think the GRE is the new sweet spot.
At first i wanted to get the RTX 4070, then RX 7800XT, then RTX 4070 super, and now RX 7900 GRE. Im so glad i did my research and took my time to not do another big mistake. I am likely purchasing this card next month, and obviously going for the hellhound model due to its design and the temperature, which is amazing.
Im combining with R7 5800X3D, i hope there wont be an issue especially for 1080p! 😂
you wanna look into getting a high refresh rate monitor if you're going to be playing on 1080p. you're going to have so many frames lmao
That’s funny I’m going thur the same. A few minutes ago I wanted a 4070 super now I’m going with 7900 gre 😂
I’m convinced this is a cannon event because this is legit me 😂😂
@@2sinnrz it seems to be so lol! 😂
If I can ask, what model are you thinking of getting, I've heard people say that this specific card benefits a little more than the rest for going with a high end model so I myself ordered the Nitro+ just a few days ago
@@P-dub978The GRE is the better option for obvious reasons tho, better raw performance, more VRAM for future proofing! I'm glad I didn't go with Nvidia another time lol.
What about you, did you get the card yet?
Im a avid 1440p gamer and I am looking for a whole setup upgrade computer wise, I was thinking 7900gre with 7800x3d? I would really appreciate the help. Or for my second option a 4080 super with my current 3950x? (Also really nice video)
Thank you. Yes, get the 7900GRE and the 7800X3D!
@@ErockOnTechhii, will there be alot difference between using r7 7700 and r7 7800x3d? Which one would be more preferable
@@shimoi40937800x3d.👍👍👍
The 200$ extra for just around 20 fps was not worth it for me and I settled on getting the RX 7900 GRE. Glad to say im happy with my purchase and that all my games are running smoothly on stock settings. I'm planning to OC the vram since my card runs very cool and heard that it would be worth it, how would I go about it if i may ask?
Honestly, I have not had the opportunity to overclock the GRE specifically. So I would not know exactly. But I would imagine it would not be any different from overclocking other AMD GPUs. With that being said, take a look at this video and see if this helps you. czcams.com/video/9TdweIU-hQw/video.html&ab_channel=TimmyJoePCTech
Facts I don’t care the xt is @170fps and the gre is @150fps lol
I just finished buying my parts yesterday evening and went with the 7900 GRE (on sale for $530 from Newegg right now). I was going to buy the Gigabyte Windforce 7800 XT, but for $30 more, I was able to get the GRE (PowerColor Fighter). The 7800 XT was the go-to for 1440p, but this takes that up one more step and is a great card. I think I made the right choice with this one!
Isn’t is odd to put a lower tier cooler aib for 7900xt vs GRE that is hellhound? Wouldn’t that have some thermal impact as well?
For someone whos aiming to play 1440p and wants the best experience do you think its worth getting the 7900 xt because it preforms better with helldivers 2 and itll be futureproof for a while?
Yes. The logic is sound.
The temperature differences (and price) made the 7900 GRE the clear winner for my next build. It will be small form factor so thermals must be accounted for. Great video, thanks.
I'm just wondering if this is a Hellhound GRE vs "reference" sapphire XT. If so, there IS some performance left on the table because the base sapphire models run hotter with less stable clock speeds.
Just some food for thought. We might be talking 1-5% performance difference, but I'm pretty sure a Hellhound model XT would be within a few °C difference, if it runs hotter at all.
It is the Power Color reference model vs the Power Color Hellhound.
Agradecido, estaba ahorrando para la 7800xt luego vi reviews de la 7900gre pero no era muy diferente de la 7800xt, ahora veo que con la actualización mejoro la gráfica así que si tendré que juntar algo mas de dinero pero voy por la 7900gre!! 😊👌
Awesome! I agree. Good choice!
Never had AMD cards, with the OC option available now I wonder if it worth the try... wanna sell my 3070 ti while it's worth something... playing 1440p and mostly COD, is the GRE the best budget friendly card for 1440p gaming in your opinion ? Should I stick to Nvidia ? Considering the 4070 super is at least 50$ more expensive than the GRE here in Canada. I run a 13600KF by the way.
Rx 7900 gre is definetely the best option, it runs much better in COD
@@torradasuprema395 yeah well I just tried a 7900xt and I sold it the next day, can't stand AMD, I prefer Nvidia by far unfortunately
@@francisplourde2277 what was the problem?
@@torradasuprema395 some lag, even if I was getting higher FPS, it looked unstable to me, didn't like the settings interface and the card was so loud, very bad coil whine also, had the MSRP version directly from AMD and don't forget it drains between 300 and 450 watts, it's crazy high... just overall experience, I really do prefer the green team 🤷🏻♂️. Some people can like AMD and I don't judge them, I just don't from the experience I had, it was my first and possibly my last AMD GPU.
@@francisplourde2277 something is definetely wrong there, it should barely be able consume 350w let alone 450w, and having lag issues is definetely something you shouldnt have, probably you didnt use the most recent drivers because the rx 7900 xt and rx 7900 xtx had lag issues when they came out.
its a bit awkward, the 7900GRE is like the ultimate 1440p card, where as the 7900XT feels like overkill for 1440p, yet, the 7900GRE is JUST not good enough for 4k, atleast not in all games, or unless you start to talk about RT and FSR, yet, the 7900XT is like the 'worst' current gen 4k card, where it CAN do it in all games, if you are selective about graphic settings and RT and maybe in the occasional game FSR.
i am still super happy about my 7900XT for 500 pounds from a year ago
Yeah, I was really looking to buy a 7900 XT, as a "want" Upgrade from the 6800. My Oled tops out at 120hz and I'd like to play my racing sims at 4k120 native. The GRE was not enough of an upgrade to matter, and the 7900 XT would likely struggle here and there. So If I'm splurging €800 for an Upgrade I don't really need all that much, I might as well go for the €930 Merc 310 and be done with it. All these cards are too expensive, but the GRE is probably the most reasonable ATM... If it wasn't a binned card that varies hugely in OC performance. SMH.
The 7900 XT is a good card for sure and 500 pounds is a great price. Yeah we have so many options now it’s great but it’s also confusing sometimes on what to pick.
Are you going to give us a dragons dogma max setting review?
I'm not, but I have a friend who will. He runs a channel named Max Vasconcelos Gaming. He plans to review the game. Have you heard of him before?
Yeah he’s well known
The 7900 GRE is way cooler because it is a hellhound, it is by far the best implementation of this card.
You’re correct!
Did you benchmark the GRE with the memory clocks enabled? The GRE is almost 300 EUR cheaper than the 7900 XT but with the memory overclocking it's going to be within 5-10% (as the GRE responds very well to OC from the reports).
I did not. The memory oc fix was not yet available when I did my testing.
@@ErockOnTech thought so - it takes a lot of time doing benchmarks like that and they only just dropped it. My GRE should be arriving on Wednesday, hopefully it'll tide me over until the 5090 drops :)
I'm glad I saw this video because I wanted the Sapphire nitro of the gre and noticed it was $100 less of a 7900XT so I wondered if I should jump or not?🤔
I mean looking at this video and if playing only at 1440p and not 4k, I'd save the £100 and pick up the 7900GRE and overclock the memory on it for a 10-15% boost.
@@Lennox032 My thoughts exactly.
Thank you! Video will likely save me $200 as I more concerned with TEMP in my PC.
how simple is overclocking the GRE? mind u ive never tinkered with any type of OC'ing in my life
There are plenty of guides on CZcams for over clocking AMD cards. AMD also has an auto over clock feature in their adrenaline software. Check out my 7900 XT video for more information.
@@ErockOnTech so its quite simple?
@@io-rj6skIt’s fairly easy yes.
Hello. What do you think - is going from 535 euros to 640 euros worth it to go from Pulse to NItro+ 7900 GRE?
The 7900 xt is 750 euros for the base model, so I'm not sure it's worth the difference and 7900 xtx is around 1000. Yea, my country sucks for computer parts.
In my opinion no it’s not worth it. Take the cheaper card. The Nitro + is probably better but it’s not $105 better.
@@ErockOnTech Thank you.
@@Draxlaryou’re welcome.
I have that Hellhound GRE, and by just reducing core voltage by 60-80mV, it will get an 7% performance boost and use 265-270W total board power at the same time, as opposed to 280-290W. Seems to work for most.
The cooler on the Hellhound is amazing, but the Sapphire models have the SK hynix memory modules, and they seem to overclock better. Almost all models you can get the VRAM up to 19Gb/s, adding some more performance on top of the core clock headroom.
8% relative performance increase puts it in the Raster area of some VERY expensive GPUs.
As a recent 7900gre buyer, I have found the memory OC on my card to be less than reviewers.i have had green crashes over 2450mhz even without undervolting. Passes cyberpunk and stuff at 2550 but randomly crashes idle
Oh man i am sorry to hear this! Thanks for letting me know. What model do you have?
@@ErockOnTech The gigabyte gaming OC, I will say the card stays cool and relatively quiet so I'm happy on that respect. I am still trying to dial in my overclocks. It seems to crash on voltage reductions but we will see. 2 hours of hell divers 2 last night was stable at 2450mhz on vram, stock 1050 voltage and core set to 2800 but realistically boosting in the 2500 range. Power target +15%
should i get a 7900 XT or save and get the GRE with its new update?
For this comparison did you run the 7900 GRE stock not OC'd
0:55 yes
@@ErockOnTech awesome 👌🏻 I have ordered this card in the Sapphire Nitro+ version and can't wait to use it!
Can the gre still be a good budget 4k card or should I just go for the 7900xt? 🤔🤔🤔
Really depends on what games you’re playing. Also, if you’re ok with FSR, then it can do 4K decently.
for me the 7900 xt is £630 with the GRE around £100 less, would it be worth it to get the 7900 xt?
I’d like to see you test the competitive games on low because that’s how people play mostly they even have a “competitive” preset. That and I would say use real gameplay instead of a benchmarking tool. Either way thanks for talking about the GRE.
You’re welcome and for other games without benchmarks, I do use gameplay. But benchmarks are a reliable way to ensure accuracy from run to run. You can’t ensure that with gameplay. As for competitive settings, I understand. I’ll consider that for future reviews.
it depends on availability. In my country gre is 610 usd and xt is 745. thermals aren't an issue for xt. the non oc performance scales well with price for the xt
Thanks I’ll be picking the the 7900 gre
Have to wonder what it will look like come the end of year sales, since end of 2023 its not hard to find 7900xt for $700 or even lower with some patience(690$ not much but its still lower).
On the basis of visible alignment of fans ,I think that there is more exhaust then air intake leading to high temperatures.The storage space is also low for modern games.
What are you referring to? The case the GPU is installed in?
Guys i playingfrom 2020 4k with 1080ti 40-60 fps... No problems no lags... Now i want change to 7900 gre or xt. When i read comments 7900gre just max 2k ...... Its 4k 60-120 fps....
*7900 XT Manual OC Results* 1060mv - 2900 core - 2700 memory - +15 PL. (Power color hell hound, fans at 1400rpm locked, 83c hotspot max case closed)
Cyberpunk 1440 ultra no upscaling - 128fps (120 in video)
Cyberpunk 4k ultra no upscaling - 58fps (54 in video)
Valhalla ultra 4k - 99fps (91 in video)
Valhalla ultra 1440p - 158fps (151 in video)
I'll try valhalla next. I have a feeling it's going to have a pretty high improvement.
Would not upgrading for a while justify going for the 7900 xt instead of the GRE?
16GB of memory should be plenty for years to come. So even the GRE would be good if you’ll be keeping it long term. If you want to keep the card for 6+ years, then sure, grab the xt.
@@mikeyhope7577 thanks for the reply g
I think that difference in temperature is not from the difference in the chip (XT vs GRE) but the difference in the cooler (reference vs. Hellhound). I base this on the fact that the power draw was usually only 5-10% lower in GRE.
Temperature is great on both cards and power draw difference is around 25w - this is negligible. I would pick GRE for 1440p and 7900XT for 4K or widescreen monitor.
Would you take a 4070 super over a 4070 ti or ti super?
Definitely. Unless your job is 3D modeling or animation, in that case; the 4070 Ti Super would be worth it. But if you're just a gamer with some video editing or something, then go with the 4070 Super. (4070 Ti is never worth it anymore)
I'm comparing these cards for 2 reasons; price, and case. I have a case that I like, but as an mATX case it doesn't support any of the 7900xt cards outside of the Sapphire Pulse. 7900gre opens up a couple more GPU options. The alternative is to just buy a new case, which I can, I just don't want to have a bunch of cases laying around. None of my build lists have a difference of more than $110. I'm on the fence.
Get the GPU you want in my opinion and just get a new case. It’s been my experience that people buy PC cases very fast on the Facebook marketplace if you list it low enough
Side by side, I couldn't go for the GRE over the XT, just because the prices are so close. GRE is also in a weird spot from 7800XT, if you're in a budget situation... kind of makes me wonder, although the GRE is a fantastic card, who is it for?
Yeah I was leaning towards the 7800 XT or the XTX over all. But then the GRE got that OC bump. It really made a difference. Plus the temperatures, at least on the Hellhound, are incredible! But that's what's so great about PC gaming and PC building. Plenty of options! :)
@@ErockOnTech 100% agreed. Give us *_ALL_* the options! 😂
I have no idea what id going on in my "local" market, but the cheapest GRE goes for 470$, the 7800xt for 480$ and the 7900xt for 730$
@@mastroitek Local production I'd imagine. GRE is imported from China as I understand it. Could also be they just overproduced the GRE? Really odd though.
Middle of the road I guess, slightly pricier than a 7800 XT, but not as pricey as any of the 7900s, and more VRAM than anything Nvidia are providing. I think it's a decent compromise, especially if you're leaning more towards 1440p gaming at decently high refresh rates and you're looking to dip your toes into the Red team's pool (or at least, that was my justification for getting it).
This was the card that made me switch to AMD, as I was tired of searching for 2nd hand 3080 Ti and 3090s for minimum £500... I started asking myself "Why not just get a new card from Green's line up for that kind of money?", but then I checked, and I couldn't justify spending a small fortune on 12/16GB (max) VRAM GPU, even with NVidia's shiny bells and whistles. Even some of the cheaper options, like RTX 4060, are just not up to scratch (for obvious reasons, lol). Nvidia's new "Ti Super Duper Ultra mega" 4070s look compelling, but they're still too expensive. The 4080 and 90 are not even on the table for discussion...
I just hope AMD can continue to improve FSR, like they've demonstrated in tests recently. This, plus the mem OC will make this card a real favourite I imagine. I just wish that board partners would include an anti sag bracket with the damn thing, it's heavy af as I'm sure @EsrockOnTech will probably agree, it's crazy that PowerColor don't give you one! 😂
There’s a sale on Amazon currently, not how long it’ll be up but I just got a 7900XTX for 570$
Holy crap really? Let me go check.
@@ErockOnTech it was the sapphire version, there seem to have been some off and on sales over the past couple days
@@17DogsInClogs be careful there have been a number of scam resellers on Amazon listing Sapphire cards for cheap, you never end up getting them.
Check the seller, it might be a scam.
@@17DogsInClogsThis is a well known scam. The seller is from China (against Amazon seller TOS) and has bad reviews
could u overclock the xt to close to xtx performance?
Yes. But the XTX is still faster. Also, you can overclock the XTX as well to push it further ahead.
100% agree. GRE is a an excellent buy!
Just head up to most people with a custom fan curve and about a 230mhz boost on core from the base 2400. You can get the performance stable and only ablut 8 fps difference and 10c hoter if you undervolt after stable you can get it to 62c average with about 8 fos across the board differnce. You have to turn off zero rpm limit and set a min at all time fan curve at 38 percent otherwise when you jump inti games the temp jumps to high before fan kicks on and driver flips tf out and underclocks card thinking its gaing heat to fast. If you have decent air flow you can change memory to plus 250mhz and 230 on core and it will be stable. Mobitor ypu menory tenps uning hwinfo if there sitting below 70c change toming in preformance page to fast timing and set menory overclock to +180 and bench mark. Its not a guaranteed overclock but works most of time if you case has some airflow. And stable for me personally i also undervolted
Thanks for sharing this.
Just underclock to 960mv, oc to 2700mhz, vram oc to vram 2414 and same 250w = xt perfomance :)
And you can do the same for XT and things go so on...!
Good tip.
@@riannair7101yes but you save the money with the GRE. But to each their own.
XT is a better long term investment. I love the cooler temps of the GRE but I can’t justify it.
I understand!
200+ euros/dollars more, not really worth it, lets be honest, GRE is best gpu this gen, similar to rx6700xt and rx6800 non xt were amazing
The question is, do I go with the 7900 GRE red devil or hellhound
Red devil is the top tier in Powercolor,but Hellhound still is a great tier of GPU, it is all come down to the price difference
Got my 7900xt for 689€. Don't forget that you can uv/oc this card easily, too.
That’s a good price. Yes, you’re correct.
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Say what?!!!!!!! It's about time!
in UK the hellhound 7800 xt is ₤508 vs hellhound 7900 gre which is ₤565 and the red devil is ₤535 ish and that's better than hellhound.. wish it was 200 less 😭 still saving up!
I’m sorry to hear that!
But keep in mind you can overclock the 7900xt as well. Here in Germany we get the 7900 xt for 650 to 699.
Yes for sure. I was just saying now that the GRE can be overclocked, it’s added value it didn’t have before.
Where in germany can you buy a 7900xt for 650€,actually curious?
@@user-mt2xf5pj4y Geschichten aus dem Paulanergarten. They're going for 750€+.
why is GRE running so cold? 50c even at 4k high settings on most games, what is this magic?
It’s not all GREs. It’s this specific GRE. The PowerColor Hellhound.
@@ErockOnTech i see, but still im curious about what they did to achieve this
@@NostalgicMem0riesNo idea. I’m as surprised as you.
Its pasted with ptm7950 pad. Powercolor is doing this since 7800XT due to paste pumpout on 7900XT/XTX overtime leading to high hotspot temps (all manufs have it, its cus of the chiplet gpu design this gen, just google it. Sapphire seems to be less affected then others (thicker paste probably, but the pad solves all of it so good on Powercolor)
That being said I would buy Sapphire to get Hynix ram instead of Samsung if you plan to overclock GRE. (I tried Hellhound and now have Pulse). Hellhound does have more power limit to play with tho but using 330watt vs 260 for 3-5 fps more is not really interesting.
Also on 250-300 watt the pumpout issue is not so prevalent. Its more when we are talking 400w+ XTX cards. Just get the cheapest GRE (Maybe not the 2 fan Asrock model)
hellhound magic
right now in China's GPU market, the price of 7900xt and 7900gre are around 4999rmb and 3999rmb respectively. after converted to US dollar, you will get the price at around 690 dollar and 550 dollar (already plus tax), so for Chinese PC players in the mid 2024, AMD is definetely winning the price war!!!
In the uk 7900gre is give or take around £80 dif in price
Yes it is, because I don't need to overclock mine to still be superior even at stock.
And with my own 12% OC it's back to square one for the 7900 gre. Not only this, allot of GRE have been reported as not reaching anywhere near those overclocks.
You are guanrenteed anything. Never buy a GPU based on what an OC MIGHT offer.
Naturally .
Agree. GRE's are likely binned (defective chips) from the higher tier Cards. Only the stock performance is guaranteed, That's why they're cheaper. OC performance is a big MAYBE with a bunch of qualifiers and might not work in some scenarios while others may be fine.
@@thetruth5232 No truer words.
i guess the 7900 gre is worth 20-50 more than the 7800 xt? i know its kinda a dumb question but i would rather ask than make a mistake
Both are good. Now that the overclocking update is out, I say get the 7900 GRE.
@@ErockOnTech okay thanksds
8GB is enough for those that play eSports and have the settings at Nintendo 64 level graphics.
eSports is all about FPS.
Single player games generally need to look good and perform well and that requires resources (VRAM).
I paid for 6950XT the same priced of 7800XT. Bang for the buck.
Looks like the cooling system is superior for the GRE than the XT.
crazy how AMD didnt introduce the ugly 2vhpwr on 7000 series. engineers must be good
Most average players have convinced themselves they are professional-level players and need max FPS. BULL. Frame chasing and overclocking are costing the community huge amounts of money for no appreciable benefit.
4k test starts from 8:12. 1440p is unnecessary for these cards. It's not stressful.
lol I have chapters in the video. The timestamps are in the description. And you’re wrong about 4K. The GRE is absolutely not a 4K card. Look at hell divers.
xt is worth if you want to play 4k60 those 20fps or 10fps in 4k will make a game playable at 60+ fps at 4k while gre will be at 45-50ish and for some of us who want to play at 1440p ultra at high fps XT makes more sense cuz there are some like me who are sensitive to fps. anything below 90fps will feel like im playing 30fps.
Yeah I understand that completely. FPS and latency sensitivity can vary from person to person.
The the 7900xt red devil is just as cool s
As the gre
red devil run cooler then hellhou is
Travel to Thailand and pick it up there and take it back with you without alerting customs.. profit? Lmao
LOL say what?
Buy only radeon for RASTERIZACION, If you want to enjoy games with heavy applied settings on RAY TRACING , buy NVIDIA RTX
People are weird about resolutions. I still don't think there are any 4k cards because the 4090 can't run 4k at 120 fps always. I run my 4090 at 1440p and it's great when people say "the 4090 is overkill for 1440p" because then I say back "you're right because I hate high frame rates too and lower frame rates are much better because why would I want 170 fps (the limit of my monitor) at 1440p all the time when I can have 100 fps at 4k all the time."
Yeah I say the beautiful thing about PC gaming is options. Some people are more latency sensitive than other people. And some people are fine with only 60 FPS. It is odd to me as well.
@@ErockOnTechit's odd now but I think many folks, myself included, remember the jump from 30 to 60 as the baseline in PC Gaming. I'm pretty young, and I've never been well off, so for a lotta time I was one of the people for whom 1080p 60fps was something to aspire to - Nowadays the bar has risen w/ the enthusiast market and new tech, but the average person's budget hasn't really followed suit.
Any card that can run games at 4k 60fps high is a 4k card.
Why spend $2k on a card for 1440p.
@@MrREAPERsz 4k 60 fps path tracing with no upscaling? Or 4k 60fps half life 2 on low settings? That's orders of magnitude difference.
Its 12% in performance and 40% in price
Xt realy shine in 4k
Give me a break. He didnt even test these with custom water loops!
lol 😂
In reality, you can go ahead and basically call this a 7900 GRE vs 4070 ti super because the 7900 xt beats out the the 4070 ti super in raster by like 5%...IF YOURE BASING IT OUT OF PURE RASTER
Good point. All my benchmarks are pure raster. Unless stated otherwise.
wow. 5%. more than 20% more for the ti super in raytracing. I want raytracing if i pay over 700 bucks.
@@michagysin3082 that’s why I said raster. Not everyone plays with ray tracing.
@@STKReacts if i pay more than 700 bucks fora gpu i definitly want to use raytracing. 5% isnt noticeable. 20% or more is.
Your criteria needs to be standard to what the results constitute. If the card runs very well in 4K then it is a 4K card not a 1440P card. You can't just change the standard to suit your preferences. Sorry but that comment just made me not want to watch your video.
Ok then don’t watch. By that logic, in game A it’s a 4K card but in game B it’s not a 4K card. Thats not a standard. That’s game by game and does not allow for a solid recommendation to everyone. Basically, I would have to say “I don’t know what resolution the card can support. Go find out based on the games you want to play.” That’s ridiculous man.
i feel like the 7900xt it's worth the gre price
Me watching these videos to have 360 avg frames on competitive shooters on my 1080p 360hz with high settings
lol. Well hey these can do that.
@@ErockOnTech cause of you I got 7900gre nitro+ 🔥
@@Mango_j98Awesome! I hope it serves you well!
me personally id save teh 200, their all plyable.
the asrock one is $699
For which card? The 7900 XT?
@@ErockOnTech 7900xt
Your temps are apples to oranges! You have a stock XT and a custom GRE! Not a good comparison
My goodness man. I didn’t go into this planing to make the most scientific accurate GPU thermal tests you have ever seen. A viewer sent me these cards. I didn’t get to pick them. I didn’t choose anything about these cards. So by your logic I should have rejected the cards and not used them? I shouldn’t compare what can be compared? Like I said in the video, maybe this is for you. Maybe it’s not. But dude get off the “well actually” horse. It’s a buzz kill man. Both cards are available to purchase. That’s a fact. Both cards may be options for a consumer in any given market. Both cards have 3 fans. It’s not as apple and oranges as you may think.
@@ErockOnTech I never said that, but you also mentioned the temp difference several times with out stating that one is stock and the other is custom. You made it a point to compare temps and it’s not a fair comparison! “And as you can see the GRE is noticeably cooler that the XT about 20 degrees” Every single game you mentioned the temps!! Not scientific? Then why compare the temps every single game! You made the temps matter and they should be irrelevant based on the cards being compared! The way your video is presented could make someone new to building PC’s choose the wrong GPU due to your misleading of the TEMPS!!
7900xt is cheaper on eBay 😂
7800xtx = 7900 GRE
Interesting take.
Right out of the gate... YOU ARE WRONG about the price difference... they are just about the same price .. go to best buy GRE $540.99 XT $539.99 both XFX 7900 cards
thats 7800 xt
Why keep comparing temperatures, they have different coolers.
Because it matters.
Because it’s impressive how cold the power color hell hound is.
Because why not?
Because both cards have 3 fans..
@@ErockOnTech Because you say it like it's some kind of win for the 7900gre. When it's pretty much irrelevant in this comparison, and if they had they same cooler there wouldn't be much difference.
@@83Bongo If you are in a hotter climate, and considering buying either of these cards, knowing how cool they can run in comparison is important. The coolers don't have to be the same to compare them, cause both will be running in the same environment, depending which you buy. And that's why it matters. It's def a win for GRE and good to know
@@83BongoWell, respectfully, it shows you’re not looking at this correctly. It’s not just a cooler issue. It’s a power draw issue. I mentioned wattage/power draw many times in the video. I even said up front, that this comparison isn’t normal and not what most people would compare in terms of cards. So you’re literally complaining about something that I addressed right away.
@@SayachanQQThank you! Well said!
Unfair comparaison . Aib cards of 7900 xt is cooler than reference's models .
The 👏 cards 👏 were 👏 sent 👏 to 👏 me 👏
I used what I was given. The end. Period. View the data as a bonus. That’s why I said what I said at the start of the video….. goodness people
ofc gre is cooler coz it uses 60-100 watt less what a geniuos I mean for real.....
Well if you did your research, which you clearly didn’t, then you would see that THIS specific GRE is the coldest GRE on the market. The Hellhound is the coldest.
@@ErockOnTech 1 car with 90 hp and other with 200hp driving same speed 150mph which one will use more fuel? Isnt it obvious?
The price difference is now $150