A discussion on what it took to rebuild our 283 Chevy small-block
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THE STOP FRAME ANIMATION IS THE BEST PART OF THE SHOW!!!
Continues to be the best auto-related show on YT....and *Davin* is a treasure. Love my Hagerty!
- Ed on the Ridge
That is the cleanest, sweetest, most detailed looking "stock" 283 ive ever seen. Your attention to detail and reliability is exemplary and mirrors my own except yours is even better I must admit. Last one I built was a 350 and I used all new ARP fastners, new oil pan, new aluminum intake, and did my brass plugs same as yours in regards to the clean install. Beautiful little 283, id bet my wallet it idles smooth revs quick off idle and pulls really well for an engine in this HP range given your attention to build detail
I own 6 small block powered rigs, a run and drive somehow, and most parts interchange between all of them, not including spare stuff I have laying around. It's crazy how these engines are still in use and sought after, and how much more affordable they are to maintain and rebuild if necessary. It's been years since I had to remove a cylinder head or separate engines and transmissions for seals. Thanks man!
I remember when I was 18 my dad and I constantly working on a 55 two door hardtop chevy bel-air that I found in a garage that had been sitting for 11 years
It had a 327 and it started up almost right away
Thank you for a great video
Both of your attention to detail is awe inspiring. I would say spending hours vapor honing a valve cover falls under the same category as carefully masking off the block for paint. It makes a difference in the end and it's that level of craftsmanship that makes a difference to the final product. Thank you for you time gentlemen. It's awesome to watch.
Painting the individual pieces and then assembling creates more detail you could see where one part stops and the next part begins as opposed to it all being unified under a layer of paint
What a great stop montion video !!! 10/10, you do a great team Bravo !
My first excursion into engine upkeep was a 1937 Chevy with a burned valve. I shake my head as I worked with crescent wrenches, a stick with a cup for lapping the valves, a tin can lid for setting valve lash, and having it function when I was finished. Vehicles are just too much for me anymore, BUT I appreciate the Machine Shop Instruction included with your videos.
I appreciate the way you paint the motor. Like you said it makes things crisp.
23:00. If you want an easy way to prevent rust, soak everything with a layer of your favorite rust preventing oil, then make sure you insulate the parts with heavy blankets, towels, or a wooden box (not thin plastic bags). What I've learned through working with pipe fitters in commercial construction is that insulated steel does not rust, because moisture droplets cannot form on insulated metal. It doesn't matter what you use to insulate the metal. But if you leave bare oiled metal exposed, without insulation, then you'll see very fine water droplets (condensation) form on the metal when you turn on your shop heater, or if you suddenly bring the cold crankshaft into your living room. A cold object that hits a rush of warm air, will form water droplets on the surface. Obviously water droplets dramatically accelerate rust. You can just wrap your engine parts in blankets or towels. Even if humidity is high, condensation droplets won't form on the metal. I've found that covering my cast iron table saw with a piece of high density fiber board, stops 100% of the rust, even with 90% room humidty for 3 months out of the year. Stopping temperature changes in your storage area will also completely stop condensation from forming.
I like using cosmoline on any steel parts. I even use it as undercoating when I buy a new vehicle after that I will use motor oil under the vehicle. It makes a great rust proof barrier. Especially if you live where they use salt on the roads as I do. I've got a 93' F150 I bought new and there's little to no rust underneath or in the body panels where I coated it.
I like ducks.
So my friend was right; he said the time lapse portions of the tape rolling itself off and the bolts removing themselves and all that flashy cool stuff is done by stop motion. I told him surely there's some equipment they use to make that process less time consuming but I stand corrected and at the same time in awe of the dedication and patience required to produce the effect just for the sake of our viewing pleasure and art. 👏👏👏👏👏
Davin has a little OCD when it comes to engine rebuilding? I've built a few engines of coarse with a excellent machine shop and they held up nicely
without having to do all of the double checking everything!!! GOOD machine shop is the key!! Thanks for this series with Davin of coarse, a wealth of knowledge and expertise!!
Nice work, Ben (and Davin). It is great that Ben got to do some of the disassembly and reassembly work. Nice job both of you on this nice 283.
I like your attention to detail always enjoy that you evolve other people to experience the joy you get from building engine's thanks 😊
Happy Independence Day everyone!
Loved this video!
I just had my 283 rebuilt for my 1961 Impala. This video was great to watch and makes me wanna build another!
What happened to the Mopar 440 you guys were working on?
Well done, experience will keep you on the right track. The video effects are appreciated, lots of time involved and they work. I watch these rebuilds very carefully, I always learn something new. Good stuff guys.
I am building a Daimler engine out of a SP250 ( a 2.5 liter Hemi ) for a friend. He had all the machine work done and new parts acquired and low and behold the pistons were tight ( .001" clearance, spec was .0025 ). So, the block went back to the machine shop for correction to the bores. You are 100% correct, always measure!!!
I really like the attention to detail shown in *all* aspects of these rebuilds. It's not just the paint, or the little details like the lettering on the freeze plugs, but it shows in everything that you folks do. Is some of it unnecessary? I don't think so; if the details like these are being paid attention to, I have a lot of faith that bigger aspects of the build are done properly as well.
Stock 283 high hp number for 4bbl solid cam is 265 hp and 283 hp for the fuelie in vetts. I believe Davins hp numbers were describing the 283 2bbl hydraulic cam version
Great show but I have always wondered, where will this engine go? HAPPY 4TH !!
That particular engine is going back into the number matching Nova
@@joen5332 That will be total COOL.
Mike
Really GOOD description as to WHY the process...however, i find those economical roller tips rockers a waste of time and money. The original design stamping is surprisingly reliable! And safe for not haveing the roller fall out and Causing BIGGER problems. A new set of them (unfatiqued) would be a very good choice. Otherwise it's just bettter to move on up to a FULL roller rocker. Reference "engine masters" dyno tv for proof. The stamped ones lasted for decades, thousands of miles... incredible reliability for street. Especially for that cam.
Happy 4th of July guys nice work on the small block chevy sounds good
Nice job, Soup classic motoring is a master on doing stop n go motion films
Ok ok I'm going back in the garage to my project.
I can relate to the door trim comment by Davin.
These are so theraputic to watch honestly some of my favorite videos on all of youtube. Keep em coming !!
Amazing.
Love from India
Great video ! The information given is beneficial for those who pay attention. The 180 off group is disappointed to say the least.
This videography was a gigantic undertaking. Amazing
From Roma, happy 04/VII/2022.
Assembly lube on a piston can clog an oil ring causing issues during break in . so it's a no no. Yes regular oil only or hilton hyper lube is ok.
My very first car was a 1964 El Camino 283/4speed. Paid $800 for it. 1976
2-bbl is Cool but it would have been Cool to install a period correct 4-bbl carb . Little 283's Love the 4-bbl . Awesome video series .
Love that old oil smell. It goes with coffee and donuts.
Thank You! This was useful and entertaining! Attention to detail is wonderful.
Probably the best 283 around; built very careful and finished to the finest degree!
Not that you need more to do for the time lapse but it would be kinda funny if a little action figure like GI Joe or something was included in the work.
Hagerty happy day 4July greetings
Thanks Great video gentlemen
What GM guy doesnt love a mouse? Balanced, blueprinted, $bbl.?, compression ? Nice job Guys. Cheers from B.C. Canada.
Well done guys. Very informative and very interesting. Always am learning from you guys. Thank you for sharing!
The stop motion stuff was cool.....but on every rebuild? We're done with that please! Can we get updates on the Chevelle EFI?
I'm not included in the "we're".
So did you use the metal fitting tube down the back of the block or did you just use a hose as I could not see in any of the photos what you actually used because nothing was on it in the photos
Cool 👍
Love the show , hate to be "know it all" but to me using a torque plate when boring cylinders to ensure they are as close to the shape (hopefully "round" ) for best compression seal & oil control is just as important as making sure rod big end , main bearing and crank throws be as round as possible for proper clearance
Rods and caps are always numbered from the factory
I put a 283 out of a 60's truck into my 75 Type1LT. Just a quad, a set of turbo 400's on 2.25 pipe and a shift kit in a turbo 350 That's all it took to have a blast in 92 for a 19 year old. 😀
Thanks I like being on a short list enjoy your content vary much 😉
The thing that always impressed me about the 283s that I have, is that they can drink just as much gas as my 350s with only half the power. You just about can't destroy them when properly built though!
Hagerty, are you selling these rebuilds to recoup the costs that go into these engines and builds? Just curious.
I will keep doing it my way , and have always got excellent accurate consistent parts that can be measured and replicated from long time parts suppliers and machine shops , except once when I found a newer shop employee switched a 400 SBC block of mine with a flawed block ! He didn’t last a day after that and ruined his reputation ! Check everything 3 times and document !
What happen to the 440 and the old dirt track car?
Thank you for these videos. Could I make a suggestion? I grew up in a dodge family and the 318ci 5.2 V8 was our favorite engine that my father always had in his trucks. Since it is such a iconic mopar engine would you consider rebuilding one? Thank you!
El Pulpero.👍🇪🇸👌. Desde España que fácil haces lo difícil. Impresionante.👌. Podrías poner los subtítulos en Español. Gracias.
The 283 Chevrolet is bullet proof.
👍👍
Nicely done.
I use my old once’s tidy white s as rags ,cool time video
Never worked on cars but I'm getting my first project car very soon... it's a 81 chevy impala with a 283 auto. I know that the 283 isn't as popular, but that's cause it's got bigger walls and small cylinders... right? Should I bore the cylinders or just slap turbos on her
Woohoo! 🇺🇸
Which video was is that Davin went over what engine assembly lube and such he used, please?
I want to say the 4.0 liter Jeep XJ build.
Thanks for that. I thought I had deleted this comment because he does mention the lube in this video (Red Line 80313 Assembly Lube). I know he says what some of the other products are in whichever video, but the lube was what I was really after. Would you believe that I could not find ANY assembly lube in stock at any of the AutoZone, Advance Auto Parts, or O'Reillys parts stores near me on 7/4? And NAPA was closed :( Ended up ordering it from Amazon.
Two questions:
1) Am I forgetting things, or is that WRX in the background something we haven't seen yet?
2) What would you say the split is between projects Davin works on that get turned into videos and ones that don't?
So your process of setting the lash while it isn't wrong is way way too complicated for somebody who is extra super tedious about things but unfortunately is afflicted with ADHD like myself. I ultimately get distracted either by one of the kids or my mind wanders off, the phone rings etc, and I lose track of where I was and with what cylinder etc etc.
Have the balancer and timing cover/pointer on the motor. I get the motor to TDC on the pointer (Doesn't matter if it's on the 1 or 6 firing) and loosen all the rocker nuts up till it is obviously loose. I would just start going down each side and tightening up the rockers till they are all zero'd out. Even if the valve is supposed to be open and it's obvious the rocker isn't down all the way thats ok. I would then roll the motor 90 (45 degrees of cam) and check them all again. Some valves will be tight because the valve is on it's way open (that's ok) and some will be extra loose because the valve is closing or closed. Zero out the valves that have excess slack and roll the motor another 90. Then check all 16 valves again. Repeat this process till you've rolled the motor 720 degrees (360 of camshaft). As you go through this you'll obviously tighten alot on the first couple of rotations but by the 5-6th rotation your just snugging up one or two rockers. This way I only need to remember which rotation number I'm on and if for some reason I forget everything I can look at the balancer, check all the rockers and figure it out from there.
Once your done just give everything your typical 1/2 to 3/4 turn of preload and you're good. It doesn't matter if it pushes the valve open move because everything had already been zero'd out in the previous step as you rotated the valvetrain. This is how I've done it and it's always worked out for me. And the fun fact is that it this works with every brand of motor regardless of firing order. 😁
Did yall have the test run posted on youtube?
why would you use heavier than stock anything, especially pistons? Don't you always want to minimize reciprocating mass?
it will be interesting to see a restauration of an old John deere for example
I just say it like that
21:39 - U're not alone here
What roller cam did u put in the 283? Did it run good?
All that bother for a 2 barrel..
All that typing for two likes.
Davin. If you were to guess, How much horsepower and Torque do you think the 283+ odd making now?
Those exhaust manifolds don't look like they came on the 283. I had that style on my '71 350 Chevy but the 283 motors I ran all came with rams horn style.
Came out of a nova
You know for the time !!! They were a petty good motor😮,,But,,compared to the 5,3,,,6,0,,,6,2,,we have now ,,The 283. is rock bottom, And you know I think it has a lot to do with the Oil,,oil is much better now than back in those days 😀,,283. By 80,000 miles you petty well have to do a valve job and lifters..These engines nowadays they are just breaking in at 80,000 miles,😢
Please subtitle indonesia
Is there a WRX hiding in the backdrop?
I'm just come out and say what you didn't want to say @41:10 . All the aftermarket and in many cases the OE parts are straight up JUNK. Did quite of bit of work to my brothers 68 Corvette and it didn't matter what I was working with, the parts were usually JUNK and had to be either tweaked or a NOS part sourced. I blame 99% of it on where the part is made, and that's CHINA. They are not our friends..... They make shitty stuff, send that stuff to us, and will continue to sell us shitty stuff because the average American consumer is too damned stupid to realize what's happening. All they look at is the cost and that's the wrong way to look at it. If you had a quality and proper timing set to begin with it would have saved you hours if not days of aggravation and delays. Makes that $80 timing set not such a bargain. They have the ability to make decent stuff, but they are keeping it for their war machines. KEEP THAT IN MIND..... Source stuff made in the USA or places friendly to the USA.
Should have at least put a stroker crankshaft in it....💪💪
Where do you buy one ?
@@Hanzyscure Between the zero and two stores.
Please show more disassembly and less coffee talk
283 could not be blown up.
I know from tried and true experience.
The junkyard is full of those things so I don't understand why you're worried about a new one for all the great things that come out of that garage to you people are still stuck new is always better but you said ahead usually has more done to them than you planned on doing to your old heads off your motor I can't understand this it was brilliant as that man is he's stumped 🤔
Quick, someone get Guinness on the phone as I may have found the world's longest semi-coherent sentence.
7:32. The elephant in the room. Are Subaru engines perhaps the very worst mass produced engines in the history of cars? Every person I've ever known with a Subaru has had either a bad head gasket, or severe, dangerous oil leaks (the oil drips onto the exhaust due to the valve cover being inches away from the exhaust header). My other friend his Subaru engine held together but his computer and transmission failed and the car was scrapped. I was reading about the new Toyota GR86 with the BRZ engine and there are already stories of blown head gaskets. Subaru technically should not be in business anymore, and should not legally be allowed to sell any of their boxer engines. Even if they could somehow fix every problem they have had, their boxer engine has been a catastrophic failure. I used to like Subaru, but seeing how they haven't sufficiently fixed their new engines, I hope they go out of business completely.
Sadly soon all combustion cars including classics will be banned from public streets in entire EU and Scandinavia :-(
In Germany the Green Peoples Party gave order to shorten fuel supply from 2025
on by reducing all conventional fuel stations to only one state operated central gas station per city or county. Now they want to slow down all the gas station pumps from 20 litre per minute to 2 litre per minute...From 2027 on in the EU certain car spare parts will be banned too....as exhaust systems, turbo chargers and even some engine and gearbox oils...California and New York will do the same from 2027 on.... So no investments should be done in oil burning cars any longer....They even created a new kind of crime here, called emissions and smoke crime.!!!!!!!!!!
so lacked translation. 😭
First off, im quite certain a 283 never came with those new looking exhaust manifolds..
Find the right ones..
Chill down men