The hardest (yet most satisfying) C64 repair I've ever done

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  • čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
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    0:00 Intro
    1:07 On the inside
    5:10 First power on
    6:35 Finding faults without removing anything
    12:53 Checking socketed chips
    15:20 Isolating suspect chips
    24:01 Back to one flash?
    26:29 How to chase your tail
    30:23 Color RAM bad?
    32:49 Not color RAM?
    36:13 Not done yet
    41:01 Port and keyboard tests
    42:55 SID full test
    45:21 SID results
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Komentáře • 36

  • @carraror
    @carraror Před měsícem +5

    I have just finished watching the video in its entirety. I just want to thank you for the HUGE work you put into editing it and to clarify all the moments. I learned a lot from it.

  • @bmartin427
    @bmartin427 Před měsícem +7

    Maybe someone's power supply brick failed and fried all those chips at once?

    • @DJBJ24
      @DJBJ24 Před měsícem

      Definitely plausible

  • @J0ermungand
    @J0ermungand Před měsícem +1

    What a rollercoaster ride

  • @RacerX-
    @RacerX- Před měsícem +2

    Wow! What a lot of faulty chips. What is amazing is that the SID survived since the 6581 is so prone to failure. Nice Work!

  • @retro_noix
    @retro_noix Před měsícem +2

    Great work in repairing this c64! SiD sound drunk at 46:00 😁

  • @adriansdigitalbasement
    @adriansdigitalbasement Před měsícem +3

    I just started watching and I suspect after seeing the oscilloscope activity that you have a short between data line 7 and some other line on the system. Probably happened under one of those sockets when whoever owned this machine installed those sockets. I'm very curious to see what is the actual problem 😊

  • @AusRadar
    @AusRadar Před měsícem +1

    "What the F....". Love it..

  • @jasongrimes9305
    @jasongrimes9305 Před měsícem +1

    It's a haunted C64!!!

  • @drkamilz
    @drkamilz Před měsícem

    This is why we need chip replacement projects like ARMSID or Kawari.

  • @gertsy2000
    @gertsy2000 Před měsícem +1

    What a journey!

  • @tomteiter7192
    @tomteiter7192 Před měsícem +2

    ooh... a missing ground will or course be the cause of a total random behavior!

  • @jandjrandr
    @jandjrandr Před 17 dny

    I'm not surprised the ROMs failed with how poorly the system seems to have been treated. They are easily damaged if treated poorly. The PLA looks like it was already replaced with a more recent one so I expected that to work. The pin replacement on the 8701 clock IC looked dodgy, but the fact you had video means it likely was working. The other ICs being bad in weird ways was quite unexpected, but it seems like this system has been through the ringer... or washer and back?
    Fun to watch, but I'm sure it was quite the session of debugging.

  • @borayurt66
    @borayurt66 Před měsícem +2

    Nice, a disaster which managed to kill 2 CIA's, ROM IC's but the SID and the PLA survives, that's a first for me. And a quick question, what id that transistor looking mod on the ArmSID?

    • @TheRetroChannel
      @TheRetroChannel  Před měsícem +2

      It's a 3.3V regulator, I managed to kill the original one on the armsid putting it in a pla socket.

  • @taltechchip5827
    @taltechchip5827 Před měsícem

    Back to the past🔥

  • @carraror
    @carraror Před měsícem

    I appreciate that you thoroughly explained your troubleshooting mental process

  • @geehaf
    @geehaf Před měsícem +1

    Great work and result!

  • @donpalmera
    @donpalmera Před měsícem

    "ground, ground, that's not ground" would make for a good tshirt.

  • @theEIGHTBitBox
    @theEIGHTBitBox Před měsícem

    Very good fault diagnosis! Thank you for the very good insight into how far a repair really can go!

  • @m4rgin4l
    @m4rgin4l Před měsícem +1

    That is one cursed C=64.

  • @BarnokRetro
    @BarnokRetro Před měsícem

    Great video! What a conglomeration of faulty chips. Great job troubleshooting along the way. I'm pretty sure I don't want to know how much time you invested in that board. :D

  • @tomteiter7192
    @tomteiter7192 Před měsícem +1

    an actual useful testing mode for a test cart would actually be just toggling a selected address line every 500ms, same for a selected data line, so that you could "relaxedly" check the logic levels for each line with a oscilloscope...
    Maybe that would only be possible with some sort of test module that replaces the 6502...

    • @TheRetroChannel
      @TheRetroChannel  Před měsícem

      That would be nice, but yeah not sure if it's possible. You'd probably need to get the VIC-II to "agree" to such a thing

  • @wimwiddershins
    @wimwiddershins Před měsícem

    Great video mate. Tons of dead chips.

  • @tspawn35
    @tspawn35 Před měsícem +1

    Wow, a rev 425 board that doesn't have all the big IC's socketed from factory that's different. I thought commodore only went back to soldiering the IC's with the rev 466 they made after the 425 as a cost reduced long board model.

  • @watchmakerful
    @watchmakerful Před měsícem

    The character ROM is not completely bad, it has a single bad bit.

  • @steveowley1237
    @steveowley1237 Před měsícem

    Would Evapo-Rust do the job for this sort of thing? Derust and then wash? Seems like a better choice than a contact cleaner.

  • @chainq68k
    @chainq68k Před měsícem

    "Hardest, yet most satisfying..." > Don't say it, don't say it, don't say it...!!!!.

  • @DJSubAir
    @DJSubAir Před měsícem

    Hello is this the 8bit guy?

  • @shangrilai1990
    @shangrilai1990 Před měsícem +2

    😢😴🍪

  • @CheshireNoir
    @CheshireNoir Před měsícem

    czcams.com/video/6D5lEtKFC-M/video.html Sounds like one of Kraftwerk's earlier, more challenging albums.

  • @auzzierocks
    @auzzierocks Před měsícem

    1rd