EQ6-R pro upgrade in 15 minutes without taking it apart!
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- This is a simple guide on how you can get better performance and ease of use out of your new Eq6-R pro. My hope is it helps people with lighter set ups get proper balance. And maybe even better overall tracking. The mount is amazing and this trick will make it even better.
Big shout out to Skywatcher who makes the mount and to a channel called Explore Learn share for bringing this trick to You tube.
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Nice Joe! Another really easy improvement I made with my EQ6-R was cleaning and re-greasing the clutches. I notice a little play. You can just remove the clutch knobs with a screwdriver, take the clutch assemblies out and clean / re-grease (use a tiny amount of synthetic lubricant like super lube) and put back together. Clear skies, Nico
Thanks man! That's some great advice. I'll try that today before I go out tonight. Thank you for the support and the advice. Again I can't stress how much your videos and guide's have helped and inspired me. I stacked and processed my first astrophoto with your DSS+Gimp video.
Thank you for solving my problem. After using it for 6 years, I guess that low temperature and dust caused it to become super tight. After your trick, smooth as a butter. I am preparibg it for remote observatory so I am doing much needed maintainance. This was a super helpul tutorial
I'm excited to see that this helped. Thank you for taking the time to leave the kind comment as well. I do plan making more videos in the future. I'm just finding it hard to have time right now. But I am working on making time.
Hey Astro Joe - thanks for this easy and effective tip for my mount.
Joe, Great video. My mount was very stiff as well after it came back from a repair. The dec adjustment was easy. Moving the black smooth 'nut' when adjusting the RA proved to be a problem for me as well. I put a piece of gaffer's tape around the smooth surface and that allowed the rubber belt wrench to grip. Any residue from the tape was removed with a quick wipe with acetone on the cloth. I also found taking off the screw to adjust the angle of the mount in the back out gave me more room to get a better grip on the black 'nut'.
Thank you Joe - I was able to do this with mine, having been frustrated with the stiction in the mount out of the box. For people watching, this is as easy as Joe shows - just follow him carefully step by step, and be aware that when doing the black RA ring: You may need to back the grub screws out quite a way, and the ring may be very tight out of the factory - mine was. Thanks again!
Hey thank you for the kind words and adding some good advice to the conversation 😊 I'm so happy this was able to help you. I was pretty blown away at how tight mine was from the factory as well.
Hope I've earned a subscription from ya Sphinx🙂
Clear skies and happy hunting 🤘
Great, thanks for the tip, my 1st gen EQ6 works great now. I had to put a piece of inner tube around the AD crown so as not to damage the thread. Big thanks
Great 💡😃. I'm happy to hear it worked for you as well. And thankyou for sharing your experience with us😊
Wow, together with another video on how to fix clutch slippage, this video was extremely helpful! While applying these instructions, I ran into 2 problems: The polar scope would not move, it was in very tight. Eventually I got my rubber belt wrench out and it did come out with it. Next, much bigger problem was, that this round and smooth nut sitting behind the polar scope would not turn, even with the application of a large belt wrench. I could also feel, that it was turned very tight, the rotation movement was really hard going. Eventually I discovered, that the 2 holes at the front of this round nut were for the use of a pin wrench! I did not have one, so I made my own from several layers of plywood, inserting the backside of 3.5mm drills as pins, set 52mm apart. And with some concentrated effort, it did turn eventually! I'm so impressed with how easy all movements of my mount are now! Thank you!
No problem bud. The first time I did this was with a pin wrench. But I kinda figured most wouldn't have one. So I was trying to come up with something for basic tools laying around the house. But the guy who showed me this also used a couple screws that fit in just right with a screwdriver between them. Glad the video helped out a little at least lol. And really happy to hear the mount has better friction now.
My EQ6-R Pro was reaaaally tight in RA when I got it, so much so that it was hard to find good balance, but I have a vey light setup on it so guiding hasn't been all that bad the past year I've used the mount. Finally got around to do this and following your very clear instructions, it was not difficult at all. It so much looser in RA after this adjustment which will make it a lot easier to find the correct balance. Thank you for this. Once these clouds disappear, I'll see how my guiding is.
Man I'm just really happy it helped even if it is just a few people that came across my channel. I've been wanting to do more videos but just haven't found the time. But I do have some good ones planned about the eq6r pro. Just got to get through all this hurricane work from the hurricane we just had down here in Florida. I do patio screens so I'm sure you can understand why I'm so busy LOL
And by the way your kind and encouraging words are very motivating and appreciated 🙂 so thankyou for that.
A super big thanks for this excellent tutorial
Hey a super big thank you to you for stopping by and checking it out! And taking the time to like and comment. It helps with my channel so much: )
Thank you JOE, a very nice video. I just got the same mount and I will check on issue to make sure I don't have a problem. A very easy fix thanks to you!!! Most all things come from China and there made on an assembly line one after another, and sometimes the assembler may tighten a screw just a tad to much.
Thankfully awesome people like you are stopping by to check out the channel! I can't tell you how much I appreciate the encouraging feedback and courteous responses. Let me know how it goes with yours if you don't mind bud. Have a great night and Clear skies 🤘
Excellent video, thank you very much!
I wish I had this kind of equipment. Nice video Joe!
You have some pretty nice equipment yourself. I checked it out on your CZcams videos. Great videos by the way man! I wish I was doing something as constructive with my life when I was 15. You got a really bright future 😎 keep up the great work on CZcams as well.
Great video,
Thank you 👍
Very informative. If only I had good equipment like this.
Thanks man I appreciate you giving the video a watch.
Great information, keep posting I have the same mount 👍!! One one love from NYC
Thanks Dad I really appreciate the encouragement. I do plan on posting again soon. I've just been busy trying to clean up after that bad hurricane we got. Life's been a bit distracting but we're heading back into Orion season so I'll be back out there in no time. Plus here in Florida the bugs are a lot better during the winter time.
Such a great help ! Thank you !!!!!!!
Hey no problem bud. Thank you for the view and comment. I have been a bit busy with work lately. But I do have some more videos lined up and will be posting in the next couple weeks. So please subscribe if you haven't already so when they come out hopefully they might help as well . CS🤘🖖
Grand merci pour cette vidéo, j'ai du un peu adapter pour ma vieille monture EQ6 et batailler pour dévisser l'AD mais j'y suis arrivé et tout fonctionne à merveille.
Can you post a English translation please? I can't copy your text. I would love to hear the feedback.
Thanks for the helpful tips 👍
It's no trouble. I wish I had another video ready. But life has been hectic. I am working on one. Just not sure when it will be out yet. So please subscribe and hit the notification bell so you know when it comes out😊 thank you kindly for the view and clear skies!
This applies to Orion Atlas and Sirius mounts as well! Really good suggestion.
Hey thanks bud. I wasn't sure if it did. But I kinda figured it would be about the same. If I ever get my hands on a Atlas or Sirius mount I will make another video doing the same thing. But for now I only have the Orion star shoot C.A.T. a small tracker from Orion. Everything else is skywatcher. But I'm pretty curious of how the Orion mounts run. Maybe one day when money isn't so tight😂
But hey thankyou for the view and leaving me the kind response Dennis😃 Clear skies bud.
Great video Joe. I think my az-eq6 has the same concept albeit looks different, but I’m sure going to try it when I get chance. Subbed
Hey thanks for the sub bud. I hope it works for you. Definitely should if tightness is the problem. It helped my mount out tremendously. I'm kinda surprised at what a difference it made. Hey do me a favor and let me know if you end up getting it done and how well it worked.
Clear skies🙂
Awesome information thanks for the tip.
Hey man thank you for your kind words, and no problem glad I could help😃 I appreciate the view and comment as well🙂
Very constructive and informative!! Keep up the good work Joe!! There is not enough real talent in Practical Astronomy, But load of Product review sponsorship channels that love themselves too much!! Lol very true though!!
That you bud. I plan on making content to help people through the learning curve at the beginning of this hobby/ passion. Maybe it will at least halp a few people alone the way. Thanks for checking out the video bud!
I've just gone to the shop to confirm that this works on the HEQ5 Pro as well. The only slight difference is that the ring that holds the polar scope cap on is black in color on the HEQ5, and the grub screws that hold it in place are actually on the face, not radially placed. Loosening those two screws, then using a pin wrench (or two hex keys and a screwdriver) you can loosen the polar scope cap retaining ring. After that is removed, the calendar ring (green protractor) can be removed to expose the whole of the tension nut. The tension nut only had 3 grub screws on the HEQ5, rather than the 4 on the EQ6-R.
I did notice that when adjusting the RA axis tension nut, I could leave a good amount of tension (more than hand-tight) and the RA axis was much more free to rotate. As these tension nuts are meant to keep axial runout from the system, I decided to leave it more than hand-tight to reduce the chance of axial runout, but that is a "your mileage may very" kind of situation.
Great video!
Hey Thank you for adding so much information to this video! I've had no experience with the 5 yet so that really helps for people who own one and needed to know. Glad you enjoyed the video as well🤘just happy I gained another subscriber😊
Thanks! This worked perfectly.
No problem man. I'm just really happy it helped out😊
Awesome video!
I have the AZ-EQ6R Pro - as someone else commented they have. I’m very new to this whole hobby - I have the SVBony 550 122mm and a 30mm SVBony guide scope with the ASI 120mm-S. I only have a non-modified Canon DSLR to dork with for the time being.
I’ll have to see how the AZ-EQ6R Pro is for these adjustments.
Keep up the great work - you have a great teaching ability.
I subscribed.
That's amazing! Hope you stay with it. I've been lacking to say the least, this year. But the weather is finally a bit cooler. So I'm heading out soon. Nice set up by the way. I almost got the svbony myself. But it was still a newish company. But I've since heard good things. I love to check out yours results. I still haven't had time to hook up the guide scope and camera I bought 🙃
Great, how is the svbony550 doing? I plan on getting the smaller version.
Thanks for info, I was able to loosen mine and I went from a spiky .90 - .80 to .75 - .65 last night..
That's amazing! Thanks for taking the time to share with us! And I'm just happy to help. Make sure you sub for my upcoming videos of you want. Clear skies🤘
Great video! Doing this noticeably improved my guiding performance. I'm only about six months into the hobby and have been using the EQ6-R Pro for the last 2-3 months. Recently I've been having problems guiding my 127mm refractor. Following this tutorial has really helped, and it got me thinking about the importance of balance more generally. Why does a $2,000 mount ship with this kind of issue?
You know I'm not really sure why. But i assume it's from mass production losing a bit of quality control. But I wanted to say I really appreciate your interaction on my video here. It's the first I tried to make. So having inquiries like yours made it way with it😊
Helps a lot and easy to do. great video. If you wanna go deeper i wholehearted can recommend adjusting backlash with an amp meter. I had sticktion in mine and when loosing it a bit my guiding was way smoother and removed lots of spikes
Thank you 😊 do you have a video reference link you could post in the comment section for people who would like to try that out?
astrobloke did a video about it, with an amp meter
Nice video, I’ll be doing this to my EQ6R pro later today. Thanks
No problem man. Let me know how it turns out when you do🙂 I'm excited to see your results.
@@astroadventures3559 I’ve slackened both off slightly, here in the UK where I am it’s not going to allow me to test it for at least a week 😭, but there is no noticeable backlash introduced on either axis and it’s is certainly much smoother, I don’t like the thought of using an extension bar on the weights and with my c8 onboard I had to use another small weight to balance !!! That’s how sticky it was. My mount would guide at 0.5 to 0.8 all day long so maybe I’ll even see an improvement on that
Thank you again
@@jasonwright1753 My pleasure bud. I can't wait to find out you're results. Please come back and let me know on here how much if any it improves your tracking. Others have said it really improves theirs. So I'm hopeful.
Cheers and clear skies bud.
@@astroadventures3559 I will do, on further checking I did notice a bit more backlash in RA but that is also easily adjusted so I’ve done that too, so I’m hoping for good things
@@astroadventures3559 Tracking after fiddling with the mount was in the region of 0.3 to 0.5 for the most part, it did go a bit higher one night but that could of been anything including that Sahara dust that came over to the UK
All things considered I’d say it has made an improvement, I’ve not even pec trained this eq6r yet so could get a bit better again
All the best
I went a bit further... because I could :) I tore the head down to the main bearings and found that the grease was contaminated. Did a cleaning on the bearings... replaced one ( dropped one) re-greased with super-lube and re-assembled. Made all the difference in the world for balancing and guiding. The black piece on the RA is referred to as a 'compression nut' (obvious reasons). The two holes that don't have threads are used to loosen/tighten the nut with a tool. I used a couple of appropriate sized cap screws and a piece of bar stock for leverage to do the deed. In most cases I think that your process is more than sufficient to correct for factory assembly missteps and it is really easy. Clear Skies
Thanks for the information bud. Very helpful indeed! You seem to be pretty knowledgeable about these mounts. Do you have a channel that I could check out? I just hope the info is helpful to at least a few people that come by the channel. I had some struggles in the beginning being new to this type of tech. I just want to help people get through it a bit easier if possible. I Feel like the less difficult it is for people starting out, the less likely they are to get overwhelmed you know.
Thank you kindly and Clear skies bud😊
Hey thank for subscribing as well bud😊
@@astroadventures3559 I've gone through a few stumbles along the way even with all the CZcams videos. Some videos could have used an understanding of basic mechanics but well intended. My CZcams channel is 'Tacoma Astro', not much on there, I'm still figuring things out with not a lot of opportunity in Western Washington. Clear Skies Karl
Hi! Thanks for the tutorial, will try to figure out if it’s something similar with my Celestron CGEM, it’s really stiff!
Hey thanks for the view and the subscribe. I've heard before that it is a very similar problem with the CGEM. And that the fix is a similar method. Please come back on and let us know if it works so if other people that come across this comment will know. Thank you again for the view. And clear skies 😊
Thx Joe. I picked up a used EQ6R recently and just followed your steps. Works well.
However, I also have an AZ-EQ6 R and I am curious if anyone has similar procedures for that mount. It’s a little different.
I genuinely believe that this procedure will work for any Mount but would be hesitant to recommend it unless I had done it myself. I will take a look to see if I can find anything on it and let you know.
Looks good. My mount has always sucked. Maybe that will help.
Let me know how it goes! My mount has been great since I made this adjustment. Clear skies 🙂
This is great, Joe! My declination was terribly tight, so I got in there and fixed…however, two of the 3 grub screws somehow became either stripped or just not grabbing the internal threads any more. So it won’t tighten back (just spins). I believe I can replace those grubs by taking off that whole housing (where the counterweight bar is)? A little nervous to do, but….
hey thank you so much for the positive feedback!!! And I'm sorry to hear about your grub screw not retightening. I'm gonna do a little Research tonight and I will link some info about easy fixes for your situation. I know how it feels man. I'm really nervous when it comes to taking my brand new Mount apart as well 😆
@@astroadventures3559 that would be great, Joe! I have seen a few hyper tune videos where if u just keep unscrewing the whole declination tightening mechanism after u loosen the 3 grubs, the whole thing just drops out. I THINK the grubs are then right there, inside the black tube that’s left. It is awfully intimidating tho. And I was SHOCKED to see 2 of the 3 strip that easily.
Great video Joe, I’m going to get this done on my eq6r too. Also, what were you using to spin and move the setup around that easily?
I found a pair of tricasters which is just little dolly casters with three wheels on each one so it easily spins in any direction. The cool thing was is that the thrift store had exactly three of them which is perfect for my mount. And man does it make it easy while you're at home making adjustments and stuff. And if you set up somewhere where there's hard concrete you could even use it set up like that. But I don't really recommend it because bumping it would move it pretty easily lol.
hi and thank you for the video!
Just a question: when you unthread the black cylinder of RA axis the clutch of RA should be tighten or not? thank you again!
I'd be willing to bet that if you put a scope on there that was closer to the mount's maximum capacity, you'd find you've introduced play into the system.
I've tested and had a bunch of people test this method and haven't had anyone complain of any play introduction. But not to say it can't happen. Just that all of the feedback has been positive. And I'm sure if you back it off to much you could absolutely add some slack to it. But it's as simple as using the same method to tighten it a little to take the play back out if you upgrade to a bigger rig.
I usually run off results and not speculation. And all of the test I've done and people are reporting on this video are positive results. So if you find something different after trying it, please feel free to share those results. Maybe in a video so we can see your findings though.
Just wanted to check if I take the polar scope out will I have to align again. Brilliant video.
Sorry just seen this. No it should go back in the exact same place as before.
And thank you for your kind words my friend. I wish I had more content out. But I've been really side tracked. But I will eventually get the videos I have in the works out. Thank you for your view😊
I'm getting an EQ6-R. When reinstalling the polar scope, will it need to be realigned to the RA? Thanks for the easy way to fix the mount.
I think you will find that the 2 holes on the face of the black nut are for a 2 prong c spanner for adjusting it😎
Well done
Thank you kindly my good sir😊
Man...Skywatcher overtightens these so much
Great video!! My problem is I’m still having trouble unscrewing the black RA dial after turning the 4 grub screws at least 4 full turns. Using a strap wrench still won’t loosen it. Suggestions?
We'll I would maybe back the grubs out a little bit more and then use either a big pair of channel locks or the wrench that was actually made for it has two little nubs that go in the holes In The front of the black dial. It's called a pin wrench. That should do the trick. They really over tighten those things. And that's why we have the problem with the stickiness. Hope this helped a little at least. Good luck l, and please let me know if it still isn't working😊
Just a comment: in mechanical systems, backlash can actually improve accuracy. In battle tanks, the weight of the main armament and the loading mechanism/breech behind it, enclosed inside the turret, there is always a bit of backlash. When aiming the main armament, we always finished our 'lay' in depression, meaning that we would elevate the gun slightly between firing the large rounds, and then depress the gun until it was back to our aiming point. This relied on mechanical backlash. Our results were excellent, and it improved our accuracy. I believe that the same principles can be used on telescope mounts. Letting the scope be slightly unbalanced, say to the tune of about three or four ounces, will ensure that the scope moves at the same rate on either side of the declination or RA scale. When it goes over the top, it will tilt the other way the distance of the mesh gap, but stay there, just as it did on the other side of TDC for the coordinates being used.
Need some astro! Where are your new videos?
Yes but, did you take before and after guide or PE data to compare? Feel/friction by hand and measured data/error are two different things!
If you read through the comments you'll see where a few different people definitely did and definitely had positive results. I was just trying to make a simple guide without getting too technical. Something that I would have been able to follow when I started. I checked around with a bunch of the pros including someone that works up at skywatcher. And found that this is a proven method that works great for the eq6r pro. Then I made the video. Thank you for stopping to check it out.
Help 😕. With the ra I can’t get that black ring to move one bit. I loosened all the screws and tried it with screws in the two holes and a stewdriver but no movement 🙁
Make sure the clutch is locked and look up a tool called a pin wrench. It has 2 pins on a pliers looking tool. That's the correct tool. Also make sure you didn't strip the Allen screws and the are actually backing out enough. Let me know what happens.
Thank you . Can you recommend a battery to run this mount. Ugh! Someone told me a Celestron power tank would work . Nope the plug is different. Why in the Haeckel do they not supply a power supply when you give them over $2,000????
Man I struggled with that as well. I just wanted a simple answer, and everything was confusing trying to find a good power source. But if you go to Amazon they have a good power plug for it. It takes the car lighter plug on one side and wall🔌 for the other side. Then I used a power converter that you can buy at Walmart. It does jump starting as well. Witch is good because I use a AC/DC converter for my computer and everything else. That one hooks up to my truck battery and I screwed it down to the top of my air cleaner. But you don't want to leave your truck running the whole time you're out there. So that's why it's nice to have the jump/ converter to run some of the other stuff.
If you want I'll dig it out of the bag and see exactly what brand and type it is so you know 100% the one you buy will work. Let me know.
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I think I can make it work I bought a Pegasus power cord for eq6 r and a asiair plus . I believe I can power it with the 12v 5A outputs
Cool yes I just bought both of those. I think the Pegasus cord with work with the Celestron battery. I also found an A/C adapter for the asiair plus for $8.95 (some of these astral sites want $25-$40 for the same A/C adapter! Of course lots of these accessories and other stuff are backordered for a couple weeks to a month. Bought it from the ZWO ASI site
"EQ6R-Pro Sticky Axes Quick Fix (No disassembly required!) [DIY]" by CZcams channel "Explore Learn Share"
i did this with my 10 year old neq6 pro last year goto is 90% better and guiding went from 0.75-1.50 to 0.25-0.75 i should have done it 10 years ago it would have been useable it spent 7 years collecting dust, also the big alt bolt was also too tight bending alt adjustment bolt
I was surprised at how much of an improvement it was as well. With my light set up, I couldn't even get the balance right. And you know how it is. It's almost impossible to get everything perfect every time. So if you can eliminate one more problem, it one less to deal with towards the end result. Thanks for checking it out. I will have a new one out in the next couple weeks. Just shorts until then.
Clear skies bud🙂
I did this precidure and now it is more difficult if not impossible to balance the scope I wonder if there is a reason this not done at the factory.
I've not seen anyone have that experience. If you read through the comments on the video you will see how many people it worked for. I wonder if maybe you made it a little to lose. I'm sorry you had a bad experience. But from what I understand, it's a normal adjustment that is made by most who buy this mount.
I really hope you get it figured out. Best of luck.🤞
Of course it will be harder as you will then need to find perfect balance!
Prior to this, finding true balance is almost Impossible due to how tight everything is, so it feels "easier"
Thanks for the update, I have been able to get good balance with the mount now.
wow
Yeah you can tell I'm a bit nervous. It's my first real Astro video. But I'm gonna keep practicing and making these until I get better at it. Man I need alot of practice with the video editing as well. I'm new to most of it really.
New video plz
I got one in the works. So look out for it in the next couple of weeks🙂
@@astroadventures3559 thx
I can see the diffirace from here.
It pushed my tracking up to about 3 and 1/2 4 minute exposures with that light setup. Before I was running two and a half to three minutes sometimes a little bit more depending on the target. So it's definitely a worthwhile adjustment to make. In a fairly easy one. I definitely didn't want to open my mouth up with his new as it is.
@@astroadventures3559 I did the same but cause a little damage to black ring. Goddammid they force that thing in there real good. I stick 2 screws on that front faceing holes and turn that thing with metal bar. Now it turns smootly and I just track 300 second with skywatcher matsutov newt 190 and I don't care about that damaged paint job.
The lazy geek has the exact video but he does his in the daylight so you can actually see something.
That's nice👍