Why It's HARD To Be A Guy In Today's World | Asmongold Reacts
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What I hate is the gaslighting. The projection in society that men still have those advantages when they don't makes it so much worse.
Men never really had advantages, at least not without equal responsibilities
@@defeqel6537exactly, women don’t fight in wars or work down mines and were never asked to.
@@gipgap4To be fair, they could but they just have a different biology. So at one point, it matters.
a gamer streamer telling other men to "man up" is the height of gaslighting
@@ssebasgoothey could but no women would yes to it because its a dirty job
People don't want the CEO's job, they want the CEO's benefits.
Smashed it there mate. That is exactly how it is.
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which is get paid loads and sit and do fuck all
Yep, and same story for most people who become self employed (and thus automatically CEOs in their own right). Most people go self employed to do what they enjoy doing -but being in a managing role (which self employment forces you into) often means you'll have to learn 10x more skillsets and actively deal with so much more stuff than just that one thing you really enjoy doing.
CEOs in large companies get a ton of amazing benefits, and to the outside it may seem like they're just shoving on responsibility to people below them. But at the end of the day, being a CEO is fucking tough and 99% of people wouldn't be cut out for it even if they had decades of experience.
@@magnificusdominusduxchad4229 If you think CEOs do nothing, you've probably never actually been around one or worked at a place where you could see all they do
50% representation for CEO positions, but they'll never fight for equal representation in sanitation services.
Or for equal representation on the front lines of a war. Or in the casualty statistics.
Or personal accountability.
They do tho. Quit acting like you know the stats, if you are ignoring the ones debunking you.
@@stoneylikebologna2380 Only when you do, given there are no pushes for bin collectors to be forced gender equal at the expense of competency.
@@stoneylikebologna2380 Don't debate me on stats.
Girl: i wish you were more open and showed me your emotions, don't hide your tears
Boy: okay **opens up and starts sobbing**
Girl: bye
Until you realize that you don't need a woman you will continue to lose.
Stop putting the shackles on yourself.
@@The13thRonin Divorce has opened my eyes to this truth. You can't change others, you can only do you. Do you, don't give a fuck, and if you happen to find a decent partner after that along the way, then its just a bonus. But i wasn't only born on this planet to pair up with a female. There's other shit to get done.
Just go have fun with your boys and the girls will come when you stop chasing them
There’s a difference between opening up and being a wet blanket who needs a mom. Many of you don’t know the difference.
@@emilymschoener9193its different for everyone and opening up as a male is not worth the risk most of the time
"Women couldn't go to university" nobody who wasn't rich upper class could go to any schooling at all. Most men and women were peasants with the only difference being peasant men had the privilege of being sent to fight wars.
Exactly, so many bad takes from Asmon and Chris in this video.
@@gipgap4 a massive ton of them, so many dishonest points
They also forget to add that majority of women born into wealth were educated. They usually learned an instrument, another language such as German, French or Latin, and also had private tutors and hand maidens. That university argument ignores the majority of the population couldn't read or write and men were still expected to make an income based off of physical labor
@@James_36name 5
Yes but women were still not allowed to go to university.
I think Dr. K said it well in one of his last videos. Don't remember the exact quote, but something along the lines that the world has changed, but expectations of men have not. And that in todays world this expectations become harder and harder to fulfil, let more and more men feel like failures.
Yeah the gender roles for men still r mostly the same. It seems unfair and the only solution is to get rid of them for men.
man, I have a wife, kid, paid for my own 4 bedroom apartment, have a car, and am the sole earner of the family, and i'm still made to feel like a failure.
@@gleipnirrr Why that? Sounds like you have a wonderful life. What's bothering you bro?
I don't feel like a failure, because I'm not growing as a person for someone else. I look at my own progress and what I've achieved. Stay positive and don't give a fuck about what's around you. The sooner you start not giving a fuck the better your live is going. Career wise, mental health wise and physical wise, I am going steady. Sure, there's always people that are better, but don't care! :)
Ps this is coming from a late bloomer that picked up his life at 33.
social media changed the narrative in that regard. Men nowadays tend to see there's no fruition on hard work like it once was on the past. So whatever happening is today is just a response in accordance of the present climate.
I live in Florida. Been hit by many bad hurricanes. The rebuild progress after a bad storm brings out the inner masculine nature in me. I see a clear objective and I take action heavily. From clearing trees to bringing resources to ones in need. Moral of the story, If a man can see his duty and objective in front of him, its in his nature to do good and provide. The problem is, with devastating storm damage, the man knows exactly what to do. However, when he's navigating the uncertain economy and crumbling society.... What does he do? Where is the obvious "Mission"? They say "Make money" My soul tells me money isn't the answer when were in a state of social decay. It's much deeper than money. It's a spiritual battle in my opinion.
I liked my own comment because I feel like I'm right btw
Well, clearly the spirit is there, sometimes your command, is your obligation, cause at the end is about survival.
In civilization, there is so many things to take into account and not many knows what the fuck we are doing, that's why, perhaps, when a problem like a disaster etc where the only desire is to prevail against odds that we understand is more gratifying than playing the game to "Make money"
The men on top don’t want the men on the bottom to succeed. They want all the resources to themselves so their children can have the upper hand. Same with the rich women who co-sign those mens behaviors.
Tate encourage men to act like self-centered narcissists in relations to women. Jordan Peterson encourage people not to act like self-centered narcissists, to compromise and take personal responsibility. That is the difference between the two
JP is also a practiced psychologist who knows his shit. It's insane people put him on the level of Tate.
Peterson is also a person whose entire job is to enlist young impressionable men into right wing ideology. He’s not doing anything to help you, he’s helping his party.
@@ILoveGrilledCheese no, peterson is not a part of any "political party" as you put it.
But there is alot of data on what lifestyles are more likely to make people consume anti-depressants, develop personality-disorders and commit suicide etc, which you can easily look up and research on your own.
But that data is not something your political trench will allow you to accept, because it will support exactly what the clinical psychiatrist encourage.
You welcome.
JP's take has it's own issues, in that it puts the vast amount of responsibility on the man's shoulders, even tho' there's very little pay-off. It's asking to be noble while knowing you're likely to not be treated in the same manner. It's basically a very outdated trad advice that worked for his era but just doesn't anymore today.
In that sense, the narcissistic Tate one might actually be more appealing to men since it's kind of a "fight fire with fire" thing.
Personally, I'd prefer a more "don't play the game when you can avoid it" approach tho', cause I just find their approaches to be a stressful existence while I just wanna chill : D
@@ILoveGrilledCheese I don't think the left likes men so why would anyone recommend men to go towards the left wing. Atleast the right doesn't actively hates on men.
The main reason for relationships now is to combine incomes so they can move out of parent’s house.
+50% of the cases... yes...
always has been my dude
@marekpetr2905 no it hasn't. Most men could sustain a household with 1 income which is why women could stay at home
@djbobby224 That was before massive corporations owned everything
nah. I won't move an inch bruv. I got the three holy epitome of a man today; job, gym and videogames, and I wouldn't trade it for anything else. Plus, I share the bills with me old folks, so win-win.
what do you mean with man had a good time 100 and 150 years ago like dying in all those wars, hard labor ?
Women were not allowed to divorce. Women were not allowed to possess money their earned. The owner of a property, estate, etc. could only be a man. So men in general had good financial leverage towards their family members in the past.
As for wars, all people die during wars, not only men.
@@ne_alexa The male vs female death toll for wars is so lopsided towards males that females aren't even worth mentioning. In today's modern era of monumental levels of equality, men still do almost ALL of the dying in wars.
The ONLY men who experienced the advantages you claim they had in the past were the very few elites.
i believe they are talking about every day life.
@@ne_alexa who were forced to go in those wars? they had benefits but also responsibilities. Now they have only one of those
@@Rainerac Yeah all these citizens bombed in Europe in middle of battlefield were not forced and were able to leave it. Sure. 😂
Historically, guys have always been getting bad deals. Mainly being the ones who have to die in wars, but also a lot of backbreaking work. And the kicker is that SOOO many of the men that have gotten the shitty hands in life never get any recognition for their efforts.
Soldiers die without any recognition because they're expected to die, guys doing dirty, dangerous jobs don't get any praises sung for them because they're expected to handle it, etc.
Hell, even veteran soldiers who survive the wars rarely get the sort of help they absolutely need after such an ordeal.
It's why pretty much every smart parent ever always taught their boys to never show their tears, because you're seen as less of a man if you display emotions despite the fact that men have a very deep well of emotions.
And now we're at the point where the whole "diminishing men's efforts" thing has reached an all time high because now we have all these idiots on social media talking about how much men failed for whatever reason, when men built the very computers and internet they are using to post said things, the houses they live in and pay the taxes that fund all the things in modern society.
And the dating market is borked because as one guy put it, "men today have to work 5 times as hard as their grandfathers for women who are 10 times worse then their grandmothers".
And on the other end of that spectrum, you got women who bought into the whole "don't need no man" mentality, who are now reaching 35 or older and strongly regretting their life choices, and who also can't get a man because men around them have come to view them as trash that's not worth the effort.
So men are being diminished and constantly being blamed for things that aren't their fault while women self sabotage and end up alone and miserable, everyone loses.
Also btw, the real reason AI girlfriends are so much bigger than AI boyfriends is that they satisfy a need that men have to a higher degree than women, namely the desire to have someone to love.
Of course everyone wants to be loved, but men's desire to GIVE love to a romantic partner is at least just as strong, if not stronger in many cases.
It's why you see dudes have full on relationships with AI girlfriends they can't even physically touch, while the same thing is seen to a much lesser degree among women.
Very good points and I whole heartedly agree. I'm no giga chad that can get any woman I want. I'll be 40 next year and am on the long haul weight loss journey but even if I could find a woman why would I really want to when so many of them will just use and abuse you . I have zero urge to put up with multiple failed relationships. I literally have zero drive to father a kid in a world falling apart. All be it if things weren't so bad I would but just naw screw that noise
Working hard rarely amounts to anything.. other than you being given more work. The bonuses, kickbacks and advancement will always be given to those above you making you do that work. But hey.. work harder and one day you just might make it! Never mind everyone else doing 1/2 the work and not giving a shit for the same pay. Work hard and you'll get more work.
Male disposability
Wealthy old men(politicians) send young men who are usually less monetarily advantaged to fight their wars and die for their causes. Now it's still mostly old men, but also some women although I have no idea how they voted on the wars, but I assume some have also voted for them.
There was a veteran who said that, after WW2, many men came back to America on a boat with their fellow soldiers from the same regiments who they knew and had friends in. Meanwhile, Vietnam vets came back in a plane piecemeal with random people from various different regiments who they didn't know and couldn't talk to or decompress or come to terms with what they went through. The support structure just wasn't there. Add to it the reception when they got back home, well...
How can Asmon say he doesn't believe masculinity is shunned when immediately after saying most people see masculinity as violent and evil when it's not. I agree masculinity is not violent and evil but that's the issue most people demonize it and in turn demonize men for it.
Was going to say the same thing. It absolutely is shunned.
not in reality. In reality nobody will shun you if you behave like Aragon. That is the difference. People will appriciate you more every day when you behave like Aragon. But you will be closer every day to end up in jail if you behave like the "alpha dudes" on youtube tell you how to behave..
The world is exhausting, honestly I’m not surprised suicide rates are skyrocketing.
Even crazier that Dr K admitted most of the men killing themselves are of sound mind and thinking logically/rationally. What a world lol
they are
Gonna double than double again in the next five years or so.
i've been thinking about it lately...
@@filmbuff4 I don't know you, but I hope you can find something that makes you happy and fulfills you
When the overton window flips people will regret their complacency and refusal to help young men.
Overton, but yes.
@@unsaltedskies Ty i have a heavy lack of sleep.
100%. Young men hold all the real power in any society. And when they have nothing to live for it’s going to be painful. And older men will support younger men because they have witnessed their sons suffer for things beyond their control.
@@solomani5959 Sounds good, but what's actually happening for decades now is older men serving their own interests, not giving any fucks about their children, and in my country, young people are never gonna be a population majority, so since we're in democracy, we'll continue getting fucked unless some miracle happens.
No, they won't. There are still people walking around in masks in summer of 2024 and telling people to get vaccinated for covid and other people who have gotten their 5th booster and are happy to just pretend nothing ever happened. People will instantly forget anything inconvenient.
He's wrong with the "Just deal with it on your own." That's exactly what has been happening and here we are.
He activated the 'AcceptableOpinionsTM'.
Asmongold knows that if he pointed out reality he would be putting his material success at risk.
You're not allowed to notice reality in 2024.
We don't have another choice though.
Asmon doesn't realise the advice "Just deal with it on your own" doesn't work because there are scenarios you can't "Just deal with it on your own" you need outside help. If you're conditioned to never ask for help, then when these scenarios present themselves to you(which they will), very often you feel overwhelmed and many turn to self-destruction. There's only so much water you can fill in a cup before it starts spilling.
I don't think he really means to figure it out all by yourself, it's more only you can decide to go out and seek help.
He just means to not dwell in self pity and try to make a change.
Women dont realize how good they had it. I am all for women being the breadwinner. I would love to be a stay at home dad.
Women didnt choose anything. Rich people just chose for the poor.
cringe
comments like this remind me how self-loathing incels are and they don't hate women they hate men because of the competition
When i applied for a job at a tech support company i thought wasn't accepted because i lacked experience but later i found out that the reason i wasn't accepted was because they lacked female employees for company diversity and boy it sucked, it really fked up my head for a couple of days.
How you find out? Pretty sure that is illegal. I had the opposite that happened to me. Company claim to be hiring for DEI, but they didn’t hire me.
I asked him “what is the company culture like” he said “we’re mostly white male guys” straight from the horse mouth. I face palm so freaking hard I can’t believe this clown was interviewing me.
That's only one reason. There are plenty of other reasons you did not get the position. If a company didn't want to pass you up, they'd hire you regardless, you just aren't worth it yet
If you have reliable source for this, that is an easy lawsuit.
Stop crying and go get the next one.
@@johnlinks bruh I got hired at an electrical construction company as an internship. I am a mechanical engineer, my experience was building RC cars. Its all luck.
Edit: electrical design construction company
Look at ukraine. Most of the women have avoided combat. Most of the men are in combat... on what metric do men have it better?
Bad example, because war is just a problem men created for themselves.
@@HiuchiKiyoko 🤣 and everything modern you enjoy including democracy has been made possible by wars and violence
@@HiuchiKiyokooh stop. You think women never had a hand in war? I suggest you pick up some history books.. or look at Hillary Clintons history
@@HiuchiKiyokothat's not how wars work...
It's also a bad example because during a war everybody is suffering. Are children not killed and raped during a war? Are women and non-combatant men are not killed? If we are speaking about a defensive war when people have to protect their home from an invader it destroys everyone's life not only men's. If we are speaking about a war on a foreign land it is a different story. Men can be conscripted to invade and then it's a morally wrong law in my opinion. However, if men have chosen to service then I see no problem.
9:15 - "Men are seen as protectors and providers". Yet somehow when they were good at that it was "patriarchy" and women had it worse.
And feminists still appeal to men for protection and favor like nothing has changed.
They also made wanting to be a mom just some cringey low bar. You're supposed to advance your career and pay others to raise your kids while you're gone
@@fornhunkle A lot of people don't realize the abandonment issues children develop when raised primarily by daycare, and babysitters/nanny's.
THANK YOU. FINALLY someone who gets it. Literally the "no! not like that!" meme.
11:30 I think the idea of handing a group of people a bunch of societal problems and then telling them to stop complaining is unrealistic.
Yeah man historically I had so many advantages as a white guy, like my white Grandpa who was extremely poor farmer his whole life until he ended up in Auschwitz and my ancestors who were constantly in defensive wars. All the way up to the lovely modern day where I and my White family are barely scrapping by but also once again being labelled as the worst of society, makes it hard to even try and be humble though that's what we believe in... Awesome.
Love ya white boy
@@alanm6o9 Thanks, bub.
Yeah, i get that. My grandfather was dead broke so he joined the military and worked a second job on top. Then i've never met my dad kuz he was in prison his whole life, then I was put into foster care for the first 8 years of my life. After 18 I joined the military and after I finished, I was basically homeless for about a month, sleeping on couches trying to find a job. And now I'm struggling to pay back all the debt I've accrued. Then I get lectured about how lucky i am. Spent half my life wanting to off myself
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@@SirBitingBen Hang in there man
I grew up as a poor white person too, and you have to understand, the "black/white" dynamic that is dividing people is a primarily US issue. When slavery was abolished, black people were given freedoms, but they were left behind everyone else, they weren't all given great education, jobs and houses all of a sudden. And everyone who wasn't descended from slaves, their family had all that time to establish themselves. That is the real reason black people want american white people to be "accountable" to some extent. There's also a reason colonialism is brought up a lot, we came and reaped benefits and resources from those countries, and left them to pick up the pieces. You have to put yourself in their shoes.
We’re just around to build the houses they’ll eventually take away from us
You spent decades putting the shackles on your own wrists.
The rest of us warned you.
There's nothing you can do at this point.
We told you that was what was going to happen and you didn't care. All the caring in the world will not take the shackles off now.
@@The13thRonin No you bloody didn't. You boomers didn't say or do shit, other than talk us down.
@@Skelterbane69 7:15 Is apart of this video you may wish to re-watch. I do agree are fathers failed us. I also think you are at the same moment in your life, that you judge your parents on... The question is will you change the crack that is destroying the ground you stand on? Don't give your power away.
the joke's on you, my home can drive so it can get away from (((them)))
@YodaSGamerTag beautify said. I watch myself fight fights in my late 20s my dad never faced til his 40s. It's hard but we will only be as strong as we let ourselves be!
I was r*ped as a young boy by another older boy. Second-ish time saying that or typing it. My mom and sisters who raised me would wonder why I was acting out and getting mad all the time... "Its a boy thing" "just a phase" "he's going through puberty" and being the only boy in the home, I was alone a lot, trying to control my anger with no help for years. The fact that "controlling my anger" was a thing instead of "seeking help" in itself is a classic "being a man" trope but I had to gaslight myself. My sisters would even "train me to be a gentleman" guess how far manners got me with the women of today?
First time I said that to a girl I was dating, I was 25 she was 27. "Grow a spine." and "now you know how it feels to be a girl."
I was just born into this world, me being white and a straight man has nothing to do with peoples actions who lived and died before you and me. failure to understand that basic logic, and instead go with gut feelings and... oh idk... say something like "you are colonizing rap." as if you lived 300 plus years... its subhuman behavior.
I've been told before I have "judging gazes"... yeah I'm waiting to see if you're the next person to piss me off or hurt me. I have to be like that now, since I have NO ONE to talk to about this stuff accept someone I PAY to have them listen to my problems in the first place.
I don't even mention to anyone, not even my family I go to therapy because of my f*cked up childhood.
Sorry if I made some of you sad, defiantly not looking for sympathy, I hate seeing that shite. Early on I learned that even with how bad my childhood was... it's not as bad others who are not even alive today.
Sorry that happened to you bruv. Takes balls to still see the good
What do you want to talk about, though? Nothing is going to change what happened. It is what it is. Move on with your life, man up, and stop blaming the past. Nobody is coming to save you and nore should they. As a man, you have the strength within you to not need approval.
@@JamesSmith-cm7sg never asked for someone to save me, what a rude person you are.
@@JamesSmith-cm7sg who tf says it "it is what it is, move on" to that. Smh
@@JamesSmith-cm7sg U should keep yourself safe like the other people under 30
Local village? I think people are forgetting how long ago 50 years was.
lol the 70s lol
It’s shunned because the government doesn’t want strong men standing up to them.
probably just a petty criminal
Have you heard of undeadchronicXIV
He's right.. it's the same reason they're bringing truckloads of young capable ablebodied foreign men into all major cities across the US. Our current military would fight back against major tyranny but pay a foreigner and promise them a better life if they go against the masses, and the army has a tool to get rid of the population. If you think this is tin foil hat ideas, you just haven't been paying attention.
you won’t win any wars without masculinity.
but they want strong women? c'mon, your brawn means nothing against a technologically superior power. What does a strong man have to challenge them with that a strong woman doesn't? Are you going to take your fists or your baseball bat or your machete and go marching into the capital? The only threat that governments in major countries are worried about is political backlash costing them an election. Maybe if you live in Haiti or something.
Pretty hard to get anywhere with 9/10 uni scholarships being exclusive to women.
I remember looking through the list in highschool.
Teachers acted all proud and happy when they handed us the list telling us “look through this to see what scholarships you get”.
Literally only one was for just for good grades. The rest were ALL identity politics.
This was happening in the 90s, too. I distinctly remember a guy in my graduating class who dealt with this.
pretty hard to get anywhere even after you got a college degree anyway, just go in trade school
I did a random sample of scholarships one time, and there were 16 scholarships reserved for women for every 1 reserved for men.
And people that fit the diversity standard
I work at a wholesale warehouse store. The corporate structure of our job has pushed so many women who have been under qualified and just bad at their job pushed through the management chain. I've seen some really good female managers and I'm not saying they can't do it. But being pushed through management based on your gender just seems bananas to me
in 2021 i was the best employee in a newspaper factory on a pretty physical job.....got replaced by a high heel, 6 inches eyelashes and nails, purple hair and terrible attitude...thing? to this day im not sure if it was a guy or a girl
Spot on. If you look the part as a woman & are semi competent...it's fast tracked to middle management you go.
“That mentality is why suicide is so high” not because depression rates in men are higher than ever before. Not that.
couldn't it be corelated?
@@Mirekluk no, you have to have increased negative emotions to have increased depression. Unless you are implying we have worse coping skills today than our elders whose coping was alcoholism and shooting things.
@@mbrown7325 Personally I think the coping mechanism that was lost was feeling of belonging. Being part of community. Feeling responsible for more then just yourself.
What I mean by this, as with alcohol, it doesn't make your problem dissappear, but makes you endure by giving you a feeling. Alcohol gives you feeling like you can do anything. Sense of belonging gives you feeling what you do matters.
@@mbrown7325 Alcohol and drugs are still rampant. Luckily I do think people are starting to slowly figure out hey alcohol is a literal toxin that causes more harm than good, maybe we shouldn't take this garbage, but it is still very common especially with the tobacco type of marketing it has always had forcing it down every bodies throats.
@@Mirekluk Its just an escape. A moment diversion is nice but it changes nothing in the end and only lead to more problems for most. It's takes a strong will to overcome hardship and not be pulled into the sweet dream of escapism.
50 years ago my country was at war. My mother got an education and a job, my father got a prison sentence
Could you please elaborate? Which country, how it happened? What was the ideological reasons?
Prisoner of war status is so much bullshit. Dodge conscription and get the death penalty. Go to war and either die anyways or get a 5-20year sentence if your side loses. Can't win a rigged game.
@@GoodDay2Smoke Probably dodged military service, that gets you into prison or labor camps everywhere.
@@Johan-hm5uc government was burning people out of their homes and killing people in the street. Ireland 1970s.
@GoodDay2Smoke Ireland 1970. Government had paramilitaries burning out homes and shooting people. You probably know part of the story, at least.
What advantages did MOST men have? To be conscripted to die in wars they had no hand in starting? Working for 50 years to support their families? The men that had true advantages were the extreme minority.
To own property. To have a profession. To get schooling. It's advantages compared to women, not advantages compared to the rich and/or aristocratic.
@@beaubradley9539but women also had their own privileges
@@tomcoop9750 Is this where you say some dumb shit like, "women don't have to fight wars" and that's supposed to be equivalent to being a legal non-entity whose entire existence is dependent on men? This whole, well actually most men didn't own castles, argument misses the point. When you look at the social, legal, and economic framework of Western life as a whole, it was dominated by men. Pretending otherwise is ahistoric and motivated by contrarianism.
@@beaubradley9539 How is any of that a fault of men alive today? Which rights do women not have today but men do?
To own property and have an actual feminine wife that was infinitely easier to obtain
One big difference between men and women is that showing compassion towards men is rejected as contemptible, because we can't tell the difference between pity and compassion anymore. Women thrive on pity, but men aren't forgiven if they evoke pity in others. For men, pity is refined form of contempt; you can crush a man's soul with it if he's not given chance to earn your respect. That is the difference. We are deprived of masculine role models who evoke feelings of compassion; if we had them, we'd know respect and compassion are inseparable.
Interesting. But I still don't understand what compassion is compared to pity? You talked about role models, so would it be something like, acknowledging that you are going through the same challenges together?
@@rtyzxc Compassion means empathy from position of equality, or partnership. Pity means empathy from position of (implied) superiority, or charity. The former assumes responsibility from the one who receives compassion. The latter assumes subservience and dependency in exchange for pity. Homer Simpson would be a good example of a man who doesn't evoke pity, despite acting foolish, because he rises to occasion and despite his faults he is there for his family and friends when he is needed. He is butt of many jokes because he can take it.
Can confirm Asmongold. The moment I stopped trying to change the world around me and just focused on me, my life got so much better. Just focus on the one person you can control and live the way you tell others to live. You'd be surprised how much change just focusing on yourself can create.
It's telling that class isn't considered a major factor in determining ones outcomes in life.
If your parents are doctors, lawyers or investment bankers, you're probably going to do alright.
It's a simple case of values in that situation. Someone who's put the effort in to becoming a doctor or lawyer is more likely to teach their kids a similar work ethic and goal-oriented mindset and yes of course the money they've made doing those jobs plays a big part in available opportunities. You can also argue that people in extremely affluent families are just as likely to be fucked up if their parents are too busy working all the time to take the time with their kids and teach them those values from a young age, think about how many "rich kids" you hear about being total scumbags.
the number one factor is geographic location of birth and education lol
@@Mayhemzz Hmm its more like the wealth is being passed down which puts one life on easy mode. Though u have those who fail even with those benefits.
@@Mayhemzz I agree. Some caveats can reasonably be implicit whereas others should be made explicit (or else you'll be misunderstood).
I took it as a given that there is love in the bourgeois families I'm describing.
@@nunyabisniz8047 I agree. Some caveats can reasonably be implicit whereas others should be made explicit (or else you'll be misunderstood).
I took it as a given that you'll assume I'm referring to a Western context.
We need more men supporting men.
support yourself you woman
cool bro. keep being toxic.
@@VB-bs6wmyou are part of the problem
@@VB-bs6wm I agree with you. I hate that type of “men support” shit.
@@josepartida1711 Comments like yours remind me how self-loathing incels are and they don't hate women; they hate men because of the competition
World War II (1939-1945): Over 70 million deaths, with a significant portion being military personnel
Mongol Conquests (1206-1368): Estimated military deaths range from 15 to 20 million
Taiping Rebellion (1850-1864): Estimated military deaths are around 20 million
Yeh man we've had it super easy.....
“We”? That was decades ago, a different era for both sexes. That’s not “today”
@@cbjewelz The motivation behind their ideology, is that men have just strolled through history without a care in the world and therefore there should be some huge atonement, which leads to no one caring about men's issues in the present day.
@@cbjewelz no its fair cause the women always bring up the "well women back in the day couldn't own property" argument so its a fair point
@@eibbor171 Indeed women always brings things from the past to justify the present, good point.
It’s okay to find a woman that will be there for you when you need her boys. My mother is that woman for my father, and my girl is there if and when I need her as well. While Asmon has many good takes, his experience with relationships is being a child of divorce, and dating almost exclusively women you would not marry. Take his advice on relationships with a grain of salt my brothers.
Holy shit, common sense in the comments.
There's a lot I could say but not much I can add. Well said.
I would far rather date someone with the personality of Asmongold than by one commenting here. And that’s why he has girlfriends and many of you don’t. 🫠
@@emilymschoener9193 your name makes absolutely everything you say automatic nonsense to everyone anyway lol
I can agree that there is room for man leaning on woman for support in some instances in a strong relationship, but still, girls not liking weak men holds true for the most part.
The white men didn't just have an advantage through magic. It was extremely hard work, in many ways, fatal work for the betterment of the next generation.
Those types of ideals and cultures are adoptable by anyone who wants it. Many non white cultures have versions of this as well.
It’s written off as privilege
It has always been hard to be a man since the dawn of time. The difference is that the modern problems that men face now are new and don't have a historical equivalent to learn from. And there's also the disconnect between the younger and older generations that may have been caused by the degradation of family and community. Also the battle of the sexes, people literally don't agree on almost anything nowadays and men have gotten blamed and demonized just for existing.
It has happened before in history
The only generations that ever had women be socially, sexually, and financially independent from men in human history have resulted in complete cultural havoc which will at minimum take generations to reconstruct meanwhile all the people it's destroyed will continued into bitter old age.
No. There has always been a "battle of the sexes". Women didn't have an equal standing position until very recently ( to be more precise, women were not considered people until as late as the 1920s, yeah...) and this made any abusive tendencies of men towards women to be normalized, thus giving the men of the past "an advantage". But now such behaviour is seen for what it truly is and this recognition created movements against sexism, the feminist movement being the most known, but in the midst of this conflict misandristic people also emerged claiming a false feminist position.
Today's men's problems are coming from the standards set by old stereotypes as well as the unreasonable expectations coming from these said false feminists of today.
But regardless, both men and women have always faced the same problems: unrealistic standards. People need to realise this and stop taking sides, this is what the feminist movement is all about. I do agree that this movement needs a better name nowadays.
@@JRBDWD ok then what’s the solution for this since this has happened before?
@@gcelite36 full societal collapse, war, taken over by new cultures, rinse and repeat. We can only ponder such problems for long in a society that has the illusion of safety.
“If you were a white guy you historically had advantages”
In what part of the world in what time frame? And wherever there were rich white people there were poor whites, slave whites, indentured servant whites etc etc… has nothing to do with race.
This man listened to all that and came to the conclusion “you need to deal with it yourself” 💀
When you realise no one is coming to save you, you can start making plans to save yourself. Life’s tough, wear a helmet.
@@notthatkindofsam believe me I’ve pulled myself through a lot. I still have a desire to help others so they don’t go through what I did. I won’t let the world beat me down, you can tho
When ag says hes glad he is a man, i just think its bcuz of his fame and money, if he was broke and got no female attention i would like if he still feels the same.
he got lucky making money out of sitting on his backside producing nothing of REAL value playing computer games.. it is quite incredible
I´m allways amazed about this guys opinions. Mf is the best example of a shutin preaching darwinism.
My man, YOU ARE THE WEAK LINK
lol bet. Dude obviously had a unhealthy relationship with his mom which trickled down to him dating women with ofs then when she cheats he makes a video crying about it. Dude will always be cheated on because women will just see him as a bank and not an actual partner. Remember this is the same guy who shamed fat people and smoking when his mother was grossly overweight and smoked and it was ok. Obesity was one of the key factors that sadly led to the poor woman's passing. May she rest in peace.
@@James_36 Yeah he's producing so little value that 160,000 people have been entertained by watching this video.
/s
@@aus-wz4pt like I said real value
The takeaway: Men need help, but not only is it never going to come; you'll be punished for asking.
Time to look for a busy overpass I guess.
Why point to gun at yourself when you can point it back to the world that made you want to take the gun out in the first place
@@Yggdrasill8just need a few million men to stand up together.
@@jacobc4582thats called prison
@@jacobc4582 Im with you! We need to over thrown the government and abolish the CIA , FBI and so forth.
@@jacobc4582 just... Do you realize how bad things have to get for that many people to actually stand together?
what male benefits of the past? Coughing your lungs out in a coal mine? Dying during a mindless bayonet charge in a pointless war?
Getting to control people.
Being able to vote,
have a career,
being able to divorce and escape toxic and abusive households,
being able to get justice without people pretending your honor has not been tarnished because of your own fault by default,
being able to provide for yourself and others,
not being constrained by "godly words of what you should do" in terms of dreams and aspirations.
Do I need to go on? Let's go even more down the history lane!:
Being able to choose who you marry,
Access to education,
Being able to drive a vehicle (in Saudi Arabia, women are not allowed to drive),
being able to wear what you want. Etc
These basic things are still not fully met today depending on where you live on this world
@@purple66666Feminists make up stuff like Tolkien, but less realistic and consistent.
Men were forced to work.
Men were forced to provide for themseleves.
Men were forced to provide to all women around them.
Men could not divorce.
Women always had the right to abuse men. Abused men are still forced to provide.
Women could decide to leave the husband, he still had to provide.
@@purple66666 those rights only existed because of the draft. You only got to vote if you went to war. most "carreers" were doing all the dangerous life threatening jobs. Not everyone was rich. People need to stop pointing at the 1 percent and acting like all men had the same privileges as the 1 percent. You people need to stop trying to rewrite history to fit your narrative. Any rights that men had were 100 percent because they were forced to go into war due to the draft. THis is common knowledge.
@@purple66666 This is a misunderstanding of the past. Men just like women had expectations on what to wear, how to act etc.
The elite had access to education. Most people never had a chance at attending anything past grade school.
Voting was heavily tied to production/industry where only men worked which is why it made sense that only men voted. There were no AC cooled offices back then.
Men did not have the right to choose their partners any more than women did. Families needed to agree in order for their children to marry.
Some of what you are saying is true for a very brief time in history post ww2 (1945-1965) but for most of history what you are saying is complete fantasy.
Right at the end there you can tell asmon has never had a healthy relationship in his life.
If you express your emotions to your girlfriend/wife and they leave you, or don't support you, them those people are toxic and clearly not with you because they love you. That last take asmon had is probably one of the more damaging things he's said and he is 100% in the wrong.
A healthy relationship in 2024? That would be the day. There are zero good partners left in the world, and the dropping birthrates are getting worst every year. Nobody wants a partner anymore. They always want something from you and then some.
No, asmon is actually not wrong here. U can express your emotions to friends/family/therapists all you want but doing the same with ur gf/wife is the dumbest advice you can give a guy. U are supposed to be her rock/shoulder in life and showing weakness/crying is the fastest way to lose her permanently.
And what happens when you eventually self combust ? Or are accused of cheating with the therapist ? Being emotional and expressing your emotions is not wrong. And if it's inevitable for a relationship to end just because you expressed how you felt, then you are the lucky one . Better alone than being made to feel alone @@Milchi7
@@Milchi7 but she is also your rock, she is your bestfriend, someone you can completely trust and rely on, if she's not any of the above then hoe the hell can you commit to having kids, buying a house, getting married?
Some people don't have friends and other don't even have family. It's healthy to express your emotions to eachother and unhealthy to bottle it up inside.
Guys bottling it up is why suicide rates are so high, why men feel worthless, you need that someone in your life to be there for you and tell you you are worth something and deserve to be happy. Very few people have friends that'll be that supportive.
@@stahliboi6249”she is also your rock” sorry dude, you’re gonna have a bad time. Hope you don’t ruin your life before learning the lesson.
screw it let society collapse, and when they come crawling back for help tell them no.
Keep coping bro, your mental state is gonna collapse a lot faster
@@holypowerenjoyer6059 you sound like one of them. My mental state is fine thanks for asking.
Well just look at girlboss characters in media, that's their idea of masculinity - toxic psychopath. Which can only be explained by fatherless upbringing, what kind of woman ends up with fatherless children? One who can't recognize good masculine qualities and probably ends up bitter, resentful and can't provide her children with a safe childhood let alone decent men around them.
Masculine qualities are why male dominated work places tend to be more functional and healthy than female dominated ones.
The ability to co-operate, take responsibility and pride in what they do and the will to provide for loved ones.
Psychopaths get ahead by tricking, abusing and dominating which also make them popular with women. But a psychopath will never take responsibility for anything, or have loved ones per se. And generally not good for anyone to spend too much time with.
You seriously think girl bosses are emulating men? Lmao
BINGO
@@emilymschoener9193 You seriously don't? lol jfc
When they call for soldiers, when they call for husbands, when they call workers we will not answer.
Bold of you to assume you're still in a position where your consent is necessary to them.
You will be drafted.
You created the dystopia.
At least don't be surprised when you have to live with it.
@@The13thRonin Bold of them to assume an entire generation of young men wouldn't immediately turn the guns they'd give to them on their commanding officers.
Plus, it’s not like people don’t realize what’s going on and how fucked up ptsd is. They’ll just take debt and college to avoid it or refuse and go to jail.
@@The13thRonin People would riot before getting drafted
@@The13thRoninno, i wont be
Don't need a crystal ball to see it is going to get much much worse
Optimus prime from 1980s transformers is probably the best example of being a leader but also people the most liked dad figure from a cartoon.
I mean kids cried when he died in the transformers movie because of how much of a impact he had on kids.
Band of brothers is a good one for that too
spoilers bro wtf
@@SonGoku5363 dude it's like a god damn 30-40 year old movie it's not even a spoiler that he dies in a series he's in at one point or another
And that's why the new movies just don't hit the same, they don't understand that aspect of his personality that made him so awesome. They're missing the dad figure component.
@@Tpeaks I remember Peter talking to his older brother who he was living with. He was a LT in the Marine Corp at the time of Vietnam I believe he was going to be deployed prior to the VA try outs. His older brother said "Don't play the Hollywood hero stereotype. When your a leader. Pray to be gentle when you need to be, and pray to know what to say when it needs to be said." And that's how Peter treated Optimus prime during the 80s cartoon
Real masculinity is caring and protecting those weaker than you and stepping up when needed. Being a good and kind father. Masculinity is not being an aggressive dickhead over something that doesn't require aggression.
this. this 100. I can stand men like this and women like this. always blaming something except themselves
This can be done by a women too fyi
Agreed.
Masculinity is strength, but equally, masculinity is composure. Masculinity is kindness and protection for those weaker than you.
There is no real or fake masculinity... All traits stereotypically associated with males are masculine, and masculinity is the willingness or ability to embody those traits, and it includes things like bullying and all the things we consider negative, along with the positive. What youre doing is the same as saying "real man".
@@ContranianCommandono they can’t
I can understand the point of man up, while I do think it is wrong, in every past relationship where I talked about my feelings, they were used against me in someway. Now I am trying to find someone who will not do that.
Aragorn may have been compassionate and kind, but he also knew when to draw a sword against his enemies. Failing to see both sides of the coin when looking at the character makes for a very skewed way of looking at masculine traits. Aggressiveness is absolutely a trait of masculinity that can be used for positive change. Labeling all aggressive traits as toxic leaves you with soft and weak people who can't protect themselves and others.
I don't think you know what words mean especially aggressiveness.
@@michaelh878 You honestly think Aragorn decapitating the Uruk Hai leader in Fellowship of the Ring was not aggressive?
You can't fight a battle or kill without being aggressive.
@@Frozen_Death_Knight That is not true. It is about how much you want to fight. If you feel you have no choice, that is not being aggressive.
@@michaelh878 It is true. Been in enough fights and done physical contact sports to know first hand. The best fighters of all time are also the ones who have an aggressive streak, i.e. Mike Tyson.
@@Frozen_Death_Knight I am losing brain cells here. Yeah Aragorn and Mike Tyson are so similar. Well done.
There a 32% more women than men in colleges (in canada, i assume the us isnt that different).
Despite this, there is still a plethora of grants and scholarships exclusively for women, while there are none that are exclusively for men.
This might seem fairly small, but that's just one example. A dozen small things add up to make a considerable difference.
Not only that, it's illegal for that grant or scholarship to be exclusively for men. That's why you don't see any.
in what field theres grants only for women ? I have never seen that.
@elise9537 lots of them, as in too many for me to have bothered counting.
My university has a page regrouping all of the grants/scolarships available to students and there are dozens of "X's grant/scholarship for women in Y"
So what college is for betas
Real men work and make way more money
It's almost a 2:1 ratio of women to men in colleges in the US. I think it's starting to point closer to 3:1 if trends continue
Uncle Iroh from Avatar is the real masculinity example
Tea is key
Zuko is a great example too, he is a boy at the start of avaatar and a man by the end
his entire character arc is him maturing and becoming masculine
@@HappyDragneels_page Zuko was Iroh's legacy.
@@HappyDragneels_page yeah and why did that happen? because of the great rolemode he had in uncle iroh. that just shows that with a good rolemodel and a good heart you can change even though you were led in the wrong direction in the beginning. It highlights the importance of a good masucline role model for young boys even more and even directly shows what a bad role model (his father ozai) can do.
So, another fictional character, lmfao.
asmond makes an interesting point regarding not living in the EU.... sadly, what is missed, is that the USA spreads its media over the top of all other western countries, so problems invented in the USA ends on bleeding into the conversations of all other nations. So yeah, it's important to look at the whole picture, and not just one location.
He only said that cuz he had no rebuttal and wanted to narrow the scope to maintain a favorable position.
@@RoodBull_SAMA I’m not throwing any shade, but it doesn’t need to be highlighted.
Most don’t realise the level of exposure the USA shoves on all others.
To quote Tolstoy: "Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself."
I agree that throughout life we should always be trying to change ourselves for the better and aim to be a better person each day, and learn to adapt to our surroundings. 11:17 I also agree with Asmon that a person shouldn't put the responsibility of changing the world on their shoulders, however I disagree with the notion that trying to change the world for the better is unhealthy. There is nothing wrong with trying to make a positive impact on the world, and in fact one could argue that's what we should always be striving for, whether it be on a large scale or small scale, like just being nice to the people you encounter in daily life. It's not unhealthy as long as you don't beat yourself up and be disappointed if you are unable to change the world, as long as a person tried, then they can feel good knowing they gave it a shot. I'm not saying everyone should be trying to change the world, I just don't think we should discourage people who want to try and make a difference in the world. Martin Luther King wanted to change the world, what if someone had told him that was unhealthy and told him just to "change himself." What if someone had discouraged him(I'm sure plenty of people did.) Sometimes people who want to make the world better end up succeeding, so why discourage it.
@BeanCasserole-wg7wu I guess more to the point, people tend to judge others and critique their lifestyle, instead of focusing on what they can control and change (i.e., themselves). This isn't a standalone idea either; there's biblical references to "take the plank out of your own eye before taking the spec out of your brother's eye". I prefer Tolstoy's quote because it's clear and seemingly always relevant.
In the same vein of "what do we owe to each other", I highly recommend reading "How to be Perfect" (title is sarcastic of course). It's surprisingly insightful on the topic of what we owe to each other (written by the creator to The Good Place).
@@caddph Yeah I definitely agree, I really like the plank quote that one is classic. I just didn't completely agree with what Asmon said in the video.
@@BeanCasserole-wg7wu Yea fair; I mean, do any of always "completely" agree with everything he says? 😆
"Massive advantages"
Men work until they die, those advantages boil down to being able to get a job to work at until they die.
Women were oppressed.
They didn't have to work, all their expenses were legally their husband's responsibility, complete and total control over the minds of the next generation, and financial protections in the law if the husband filed for divorce.
But they couldn't vote unless they owned land.
Yep. That's why they couldn't get their own credit cards without their husbands consent. Only he was on the hook for her spending.
@@jamespadgett8660 Yeah, my mother-in-law once whined to me about how she couldn't get a credit card back in the 1960s. I told her she should have been happy since she also couldn't get a draft card.
@@electricpizza5774 now she can get a credit card and she still can't be drafted. Looks like "progress" only goes one way. It's not about equality until we make it that way.
And what advantages did women have? Their only choice was to find a man and hope he wasn't an asshole. Even then, the man generally set the rules of the house that the women follow. The advantage men had was choice.
@@eternityecho-ug2fu "hope"? It's called thorough vetting and meeting his parents first.
Asmon always has 9 good takes and 1 really REALLY bad take. lol. It balances out in the end tho. But telling people "YOU aren't gonna change the world, give it up. Stop it." Is so sad, not because its true, but because that's how Asmon really feels about society. HE thinks leaders and world changers are just born like that, or are special. "If you were like Ghandi you wouldn't be watching motivational videos on CZcams." Maybe they would? People become great over the course of their lives making mistakes along the way.
"Just focus on you, and you'll be happy." That's not true for alot of people man. Some people want to change the world and can't be happy if they aren't working towards that goal. Telling your audience to never try and change the world because that's a toxic mindset, because it's futile. And to "Only worry about your own well being." Is sad. I like Asmon's hard truth takes, but sometimes his pessimism and black pilled world view makes him push terrible messages to other people as if they a hard truths. But are not.
If the world feels unfair to you, and craps all over you, so you decide to spend your life trying to change the world to a different state, because that makes you feel happy or fufilled, do it. The world is better with people like you in it.
I'd like to say it's equally as bad to tell guys to "man up", that works when facing a bully most of the time but to bury and try to work through emotion issues by themselves is possibly the worst advice Asmon will ever give anyone, ever, of all time.
This shitty advice leads to all kinds of crime because, like he said, we ain't Ghandi, and trying to do it on your own is basically a death sentence for most people.
@@jnewgot a gamer streamer telling other men to man up is absolute hypocritical privileged nonsense
Was looking if anyone pointed it out. His take on this is like it is because he is in a privileged position. He doesn't have to care and doesn't have similar problems like those lower in society. People who make it and get better are the minority. It quite literally is survivorship bias or the cryptobros bs "we're all gonna make it". Because if it was so easy and simple it wouldn't be a problem.
"YOU aren't gonna change the world, give it up. Stop it."
its not sad but true. the world is changed by organised groups, and not individuals. even people like cesar, adolf and others had people who backed them. you alone are not going to change the world. least so if you are a gamer and watch motivational videos. thats just reality.
caring for YOU instead is great advice, since thats managable, compared to changing the world which is inevitably going to fail. but maybe thats why you wanna change the world to begin with: so you dont have to deal with yourself.
the world functions in a certain way and either you can adapt and live somewhat decent in it, or you dont, you try to change it, fail with it because its not possible for the lowest 99% of society and be miserable for the rest of your life.
in this case, asmons advice is rock solid.
"Just focus on you, and you'll be happy." That's not true for alot of people man.
false. if you focus on yourself and are successful with your own life, you will attract other people who are also that way, and thus you will develop a social circle thats worth something. as compared to be someone who doesnt focus on himself, thus doesnt develop properly and attract opnly other people who are miserable.
only worrying about your well being isnt sad, its mandatory. if you dont care about yourself, why would anyone else? all that mindset isnt toxic, sa, pessimistic or even blackpilled, that you view it that way says alot about your unrealistic idealism. it will not work.
@@raze956 The world is changed by individuals. Help your neighbors, be kind to people. People stopped caring, they took on Asmon's mentality, and look where it has led.
"Chivalry is dead and women killed it"
"You have my sword" is a heck of a lot better sounding than "where is your Bugatti" when it comes to life's hardships
Being a man is pretty dang easy when you stay at home and dont talk to anybody. Ever.
but what about social life?
@@Arekusandaa1986my AI gf doesn’t allow me to go outside
Yup. The whinging/whining online everyday about women gets old, and makes some of these guys seem needy/cloying. Not at all surprised by why they’re single.
good stay at home little lady
@@Arekusandaa1986i didin't had one as a kid so thats not New.
For all the supposed acts of care and compassion and sense of fairness women supposedly have I just keep wondered why there isn't this inherent need in women to keep men as emotionally safe as they expect men to keep them physically safe? Men continually gave women more and more of what they needed and wanted in the past so honestly why shouldn't men expect women worth their time or care to want to make them happy? At some point in the past women suddenly got options concerning who they were able to date and when they were able to have kids and what lives they wanted to lead well I know you keep saying to "pull ourselves up by our bootstraps because everyone knows nobody cares about mens problems so stop trying to change the world you silly manchild" but none of that has anything to do with how to address all the accusations women have collectively been throwing at men. Time for women to take responsibility for their own actions while men sort themselves out from all the weirdness we grew up under.
Men are raised with the same expectations they always have. Unfortunately the expectations that women are raised with have changed in an incompatible way.
@@Xulahrules for thee, not for me am I right?
@@thatcringedfacedou it’s totally fine that women’s expectations and how they are raised is better. But we need to raise our men better. The main goal given to a man throughout their childhood is “get the girl”, “have a good job so you can support your family”, “protect people weaker than you”. Men aren’t allowed to better themselves for their own personal benefit. It’s all for someone else.
@@Xulah I wouldn’t say expectations that women are raise with have changed, rather they’re not uphold to same level of consistency and good faith that is to be expected when it comes to expectations upon men. Like when was the last time you’ve heard of a women being chastised for not holding up their end of the couch?
Buddy, it is what it is, no one gives a fuck. You said it yourself, men just men up and deal with life. There's nothing to address because no woman in the world willl pretend that it even exists and there's even less chance to openly addressing it. one of women main issues (not saying here men have none) is the lack of accountability and desire of all the perks but no duties. In other words, don't wait standing and just keep taking care of yourself
The reality is that is you mess too much with the protector, he is not going to protect anyone except himself and his own.
"We don't need protectors and providers as much" - wrong. They are still needed, but instead of providing in personal relationships, they're taxed and pay for the upkeep of strangers who don't have to commit back.
You do know some of those strangers are the reason you're country is not destroyed and ruled by foreign agents, right? Are you forgetting how countries work? Each citizen has a responsibility to each other.
Just find a girl you hate and give her a house. Modern marriage.
Except now houses are record unaffordable so find a girl you hate and live in a van down by the river.
@@robr135 then split up with her because she cheated on you with many other men, then give her your van and all your money.
@@liamrebel9447 and also the river
@@marcogenovesi8570you forgot the boat and the manual on how to row it
Problem with voting and university is that those a relatively new things, for majority of history noone had the right to vote and there was no education system. Common white Man only had about 1-2 centuries of advantage here before those privilages got distributed to other social classes...
Exactly!
oh only 1-2 centuries yea that's nothing
@@Netiri78yah it is. In the grand scheme of things a century is a grain of sand in the desert. If you live in a country that's a couple centuries old it might not mean much, but my country has been around since 966, a century ago here was basically yesterday.
@@Netiri78 2 hundred years compared to thousands? Yeah, it's a drop in the ocean.
@@Pitolek1993 Dude, my country is Hungary
In my experience, women in the real world still want men to be masculine, and vice versa, it's just we both have jobs. Honestly, I feel like a lot of this back and forth of men vs women comes from groups, speaking *to* groups, who are perpetually online. I don't know many people IRL that give a single shit about any of the problems that appear on social media, other than everyone being poor as fuck.
My mom is pretty smart among women.
Not too long ago she UNIRONICALLY said to me, and i quote "it is evidence for patriarchy that my boss making more than me" while he is a very experienced financial advisor and she is a novice accountant.
And i live in deamn russia, not even in the west.
your mom isnt smart at all lol
Masculinity is not aggression, thats machismo. Masculinity is a set behaviors in men like leadership, authority, charisma, bravo etc.
That's just Stereotyping and poorly at that, though Masculinity basically means traditional behavior.
Most men are none of those things you listed. They're followers, NPCs even.
and aggression. why must we pretend aggression is not a masculine trait? Malevolence is the problem. righteous aggression exists
Aragorn
It'd argue it can be a facet of masculinity, just not an inherent one.
I mean how many "aggressive" characters we have out there that also depict the idea of masculinity extremely well? Just look at Guts from Berserk, Kratos from God of War, Nero from Devil May Cry, Rambo from First Blood, John Wick from John Wick... The aggression isn't them trying to flaunt or showcasing pride in masculity, ie machismo, but it is an aspect of their conditions as men all the same.
@@jnewgotevery man can individually be a leader of his own destiny and his own household
It's def dunking on men for previous success. Unfortunately, you see this from a race perspective as well.
Society is full of double standards these days.
I disagree. The advantages that "white men" had were reserved for land owners. If you were a black land owner you had more to say in society then a non-land owning white male. Its always been poor v rich or the regular guy vs the polticians.
It seems people forgot about Machism, I've not seen a single person say macho in years now. Andrew Tate is a macho man. Masculinity is not to be confused with Machism, it was a rule years ago, but people forgot.
Keep coping
macho was just gay men bro
@@sutenjarl1162 No, that's what the gay wanted you to believe. Macho is a word from Spanish. Macho is what people describe toxic masculinity as in Spanish.
Macho: "showing aggressive pride in one's masculinity."
@@JRBDWD Let me introduce you to a wonderful world: it's a called a dictionary. You should use it.
Tell me you’re an incel without telling me you’re an incel
Thankyou for the advice, millionaires
that’s a good point actually 😂
what does that mean?
@@Choosetoone It means no one in this video has a clue what they're on about because they're among the most privileged men on the planet and not even close to a representation of the average guy.
@@Choosetoone they are both rich. including asmon.
not to forget theyre crying about how men have it hard while not even realising they made their buisness by exploiting young men
Breast cancer gets the most funding of any cancer, more than twice as much as leukemia which is in second place. Meanwhile, prostate cancer gets less than one-fifth the funding of breast cancer.
Women have been being catered to and handed all the benefits for nearly half a century. I was fully aware of it as a child in the 80s and 90s in school.
The example with aragorn and andrew tate was wonderful.
Oh please aragorn would get eaten up By the girls of this era Andrew Tate true message is mostly positive for men.
@@ambassadoroftheandromedagalaxy yea... Keanu Reeves story breaks me down. If you were to put a bunch of faces with bad life stories you would never match it with his... That man is heaven sent
Aragorn is a weird one, like in theory he's the perfect man.. but he's an 80+ year old man, so hes far wise beyond his years and not chasing the desires of a man who looks like his age.
@@01Zenaku01Andrew Tate message isn’t positive for anyone clown
@@dark_knight_3304 the fact that you said that shows you don't listen to anything he says. A lot of people just listen to mesh clips of controversial things he said to make him look bad. I found the real videos that's the kind of man we need to be in this world right now.
Women had to stay at home and work and men had to go to work and work. Some (PEOPLE) had it better that came with wealth, American men were and still are forced to sign up in the army. Now women have the one thing no one had, the choice of either. And now women can choose to have children and be supported by government. This will and is resulting in men feeling lesser than and becoming over emotional. It is what it is.
They also have the right to vote by birth. Men have a privilege to vote if they sign up for the draft.
No man will ever out-provide or out-protect, The State. That is who more and more women are choosing to marry.
"have the one thing no one had, the choice of either"
This pretty much sums it up. An extreme luxury that the vast majority of guys will simply not have, and likely never have because as was said in the vid "society can't have the protector and provider stop being one" .
@@MgMast3r It depends on the culture, really. If women are raised to protect themselves effectively then men can step down for the most part.
Humans are very malleable, it all comes down to culture.
We do have it easier now because in the old days we died with our stomach in our hands at 18 years old on Omaha Beach and before that we got our flesh ripped from our bones by bears.
to me masculinity means being like a good king. strong, resolute, wise. kind but strict yet fair. like king arthur.
Because every white guy in history was either a duke or an earl, maybe a count, of some vast swath of land.
Most were peasants and I don't mean console peasants.
Brain rot comment
@@hawkmoon5290 Brain rot response
With how some people here are replying you'd think so. Some here really think the wives of a peasants were getting some kind of special trophy wife treatment the way some aristocrat women were.
3:30 I'm from the Balkans. Still waiting on those "advantages" you speak of.
I disagree with asmon on the man up, I think you, if you have the correct partner, then you can uplift each other.
The issue is that relationships are hard, and both people need to know that we all struggle at times and that your partner is the one to always have your back when you sway.
21:49 This is exactly why the suicide rate is so high. It doesn't matter that you don't celebrate it, the fact that you accept it like this is giving it power. You are one step away from telling people "Life is unfair; kill yourself or get over it" and you think that's good advice? How many people do you think heard you say what you just said, and then chose to kill themselves because of it? I would bet just about anything that the number isn't zero..
Sucks that I'm talking to the void with this one, because CZcams will surely delete this comment for being too real.
To bad am the only real comment your getting right back us men are just walking wallets love went extinct long ago
Genuine question, what is wrong with persons being free and choosing to opt out of life for you? If persons think life is not worth living, specifically their life because it is mainly suffering and won't be changing any time soon through no fault of their own, why is it your or anyone else's business if they choose to opt out? It is one thing if it is from mental health issues that cloud your mind to reality but it is another when the person is making a logical conclusion after weighting pros and cons.
@@adalheidisofadamahcaptaino18 I'm surprised my original comment is still here, but there is no chance whatsoever of me thoroughly answering your question without the message being deleted, and I'm not typing out the several paragraph answer that would be needed just for it to disappear.
Suffice it to say that opting out is a permanent solution to a temporary problem, and it *_does_* cause harm to other people, not just the person opting out, in most situations.
@@Proud_Knight Death comes for everyone, why is it supposedly different when you take matters into your own hands? Not much more harm to others is caused than what would have occurred if they died from other means especially if they were murdered, would be identical in fact.
@@adalheidisofadamahcaptaino18 Life is a finite resource, and all finite resources are valued to some degree because of their scarcity alone. That value is then multiplied by the usefulness of that resource. By its very nature, life is extremely valuable. To the individual (we'll get to the societal value later) it is valuable because you've already come into the world, and to exist only to suffer is tragic. Why make absolute certain that your life is tragic when there is always a considerable chance that you can turn your life into something better? You are already here, what is there to lose when you always have that final option anyway? And you might say "what about those who have already tried everything they possibly could?" and to that I say, okay.. I don't entirely disagree. But let's be real here, most people don't get to that point. Most people would have lost their life doing something reckless long before running out of reckless choices. And if you do manage to make something of your life, the reward is unimaginable.
And this isn't even to touch on the value life has to society. Human beings are social creatures and we need each other to survive and thrive. We depend on each other in many ways, and everyone we lose in our communities and families has a tremendous impact. Plus who knows what you will come up with or contribute towards in regards to technology, and with every invention or innovation there is no telling what advancements will build off of it. And so on and so forth; Every bit of wasted potential could set us back as a species by decades, centuries, or even millennia. And again, sure, there might be the very few people who don't have that potential and eventually come to know it for a fact, but I don't see much of anyone managing to get to that point without checking out unintentionally in the process.
Now if that was all there was to it, then there would be an argument for a select few cases where opting out is a truly logical choice. But that _isn't_ all there is to it. This choice has a psychological impact on those who know the person, an impact that can be so strong as to completely change a person's life through the trauma. People intuitively _know_ what I've said above about the value of life. Most people anyway. Because of this when someone loses their life at an early age we feel the impact of the loss that much harder, especially if the loss could be avoided. And by the very nature of the act, it is an avoidable end. This is why death is treated differently between when it is expected (old age) compared to when it isn't expected because of illness or an accident. And it doesn't matter who you are, there is someone out there that would mourn the loss of your life. I don't believe there are any exceptions, even if it ends up being some stranger who hears about it on the news.
It's not just "man up" it's also, focus on what's positive, what's helpful, what drives you forward. Protect yourself and the people you love because no one else will
Uncle Sam is Daddy. The government has taken the place of men. It offers special opportunities for women, stipends for being a single mother, and favor in law.
What is with US citizens and the lack of comprehension on how a government is supposed to work? The government is SUPPOSE to assist its citizens, SUPPOSE to prioritise women as they provide more HUMAN RESOURCES. Is it that hard to understand? Even Asmongold was clear about that.
@@adalheidisofadamahcaptaino18 It doesn't work. You just have to let nature roll on its own.
The sad thing is that men and woman have had to cooperate on some level since the beginning of time or else we would not have made it. We both have had natural roles through out history, it is the design of reality. However modern society has fooled everyone into hating each other and denying our true purpose which is to work together and find common ground so we can keep moving forward. People latch on to obvious negative historical events and privileges rather than thinking of the common folk who kept moving forward, no matter what. "Ideals are peaceful but history is violent."
I have a plausible theory about the whole "women don't want to be CEOs/leaders etc."...has no one considered the fact that women being in leadership positions or for example rich in western society has absolutely 0 reflection on their dating prospects because men simply don't care about that sort of thing? A lot of hyper successful men have big aims because they understand financial success and career prestige are huge in the dating market especially as you grow older and stuff like looks and being cool in school go out of style...
In fact, I'll do you one better, for women being a CEO actually has NEGATIVE impact on their dating life because who wants to be with someone who is busy 24/7 and often not home for days
Had to pause and comment on what Asmon said @ 0:23: "Masculinity is Aragorn, it's not Andrew Tate."
Well said and absolutely true. I have two daughters, if a man ever treats them like Tate says they should be treated. It will not end well for them.
Says a lot when our ideal for masculinity is literally a fictional character doesn't it?
If only you'd had sons! Could've watched their slow descent into self destruction first hand.
Which is basically dealing with aggresivity, by using aggressivity, my dude.
The sentence of asmon is wrong, not because "Tate is good", tate is obviously a caricature, and a garbage human being on every level, but he does represent part of what a lot of younger dudes aspire to be
It's the picture of a guy thriving, obtaining what he wants, controling his surrounding (and especilly women, who are basically just some objects).
ANd i get the appeal, it makes sense, it's just an extreme version that goes completely against the general "Men are trash" feminazis opinions that you can easily hear around social medias, and that echoes non-stop in some guy's mind.
Sure, everyone'd like to be Aragorn. But nowadays, you could see our Aragorn would be used like a tool, and still considered a garbage anti-women depitcture, because "male, king, fantasy not empowering women" . Most people are just stupid, men and women. If people heard LESS of that stupid crap, they'd be healthier mentally, but the most stupid are the loudest, because they have nothing else than social media
You going to throw your lukewarm soy latte at them?
Please...
I think they'll survive.
Women bring the Andrew Tate's of the world on to themselves by valuing material over morals, so I ain't crying for the trafficked.
@Bonesawisready926 so the victims of human trafficking brought it on themselves? Tf is wrong with you
I feel like Western men and women are diverging into their own separate, parallel societies.
That's what the jews wanted.
not so separate as long as there is a common government
@@defeqel6537 I don't think it will ever become something official, but we're going to start noticing a distinct separation. It'll start with small things, like maybe the parking spots closest to a building being designated for women only to reduce the chances of "assault." All the Small things will start piling up and people will realize a definite difference in how the sexes are treated.
We do live in a individualistic and tribal society after all. We separate based on race/gender/religion/ideology/language/culture etc etc. I saw this in all my schools growing up in the 90s/2000s and see it in my workplace today.
@@matrixcom69 Why you say it as if what something bad?
Homer Simpson is a lawbiding citizen. Lmao the opening song literally showcases him driving under the influence I am dead asl
The two main problems with America.
1. No one takes personal responsibilty for anything.
2. Everyone wants attention, even if they have to make a complete fool of themselves to get it.
Its hard because there isn't a strong "support system" of sorts for aimless young men who have no idea how to navigate in a time where things are changing rapidly. That is something many groups are ignoring.
However, getting enthralled by certain "influencers" is certainly not the way to go, especially that lame, bald British guy. The thing is, if people want young men to stop following those kind of influencers, then they should approach the subject of "masculinity" from a different angle or stop forcing the blame on said young men from the get go. Otherwise, "toxic masculinity" will only fester.
Ok but why you gotta use bald as an insult?
@@crystyxn No, I'm using bald to describe the guy. That is one of the best ways to describe the fellow, apart from his sunglasses and cigar.
@@theduck2970"i don't read, i need action"-bald British Man .
Part of that blame falls on us older generation of men that didn't step in and call BS on what we were seeing. We failed to become the people that we needed when we were younger and instead of lending a hand in showing you how to pull yourselves up, we let jackass fuckbois pretend to know what they were talking about. I'm not going to lie, some of that falls under a "I put in my time raising mine, I'm tired and done.' mindset, because we survived and didn't blow our brains out, but we should never stop looking after each other. Though it'd be called alt-right and 'sexist', there really does need to be a collective mentorship of older guys just showing the younger generation how to get shit done, not in that dumb fucking way they're pushing now. What's sad as older guys, we really do have a wealth of experience, knowledge, and an innate desire to pass it down. I think there's just that generational disconnect and the situation is just waiting for someone to break the ice.
There wad never a support system before, dudes simply pushed through, i think that drive to just keep going is the way and i think people should stop telling men that its okay to ask for help rather than actually DOING SHIT YOURSELF AND SOLVING YOUR OWN ISSUES
It is better to do nothing, then working at 2-3 minimum wage job and make the rich richer
Sounds like someone is brainwashed
Other people making wealth doesn’t stop you. Hating them is dumb
@@markblaze4909 enjoy your minimum wage job
@@markblaze4909 Missing the point. If working doesn't improve your life why work?
If you're stuck at minimum wage that's mostly on you. Even McDonald's offer Shift Manager and Location Manager positions that you can work your way into. But most don't want to put in the effort and WORK to obtain those positions. They'd rather do the minimum asked of them, thus stuck in minimum wage.
Be the FIRST one to work, be the LAST one to leave, Volunteer to do the tough, ugly, gross jobs no one else wants to. Learn what you need to do to get higher up positions and go after it. This used to be common sense, but now, somehow, it's some kind of great mystery how to advance in a job.
Was much easier to be the wife of a coal miner than a coal miner... People always focus on the rich people, the top 10%... The rest of us have always had it tough.
The issue, and i think Asmon falls foul of this, is that women are encourages to throw away all traditional roles, but men are expected to make this happen, while also are expected to meet their own traditional roles. It has moved from balanced to the opression of men.
I remember an episode of Everybody Loves Raymond with a similar theme.
A dude who thought Frank was his dad (found out he wasn't) was going through some tough times and Frank basically said "man up" aand repeated all the mean things he said to hos sons and the man was like.
"You're right? I need to man up, you're a good dad"
Frank Barone was the MVP.
Funny enough Frank also had one of the best dad moments with Raymond when he was having some financial trouble.
"I always have to go to my dad so he can make things right."
"You're absolutely right, you should be able to go to your father and he can make things right." Frank says this to Raymond as he lends him the money he needs.
men like Aragorn are being shunned
yep we're just standing in the dark corners, watching on everything thats going on and waiting for the perfect right moment to either get up and do something or realize its doomed and get up and leave to start over elsewhere
21:49 Found this truth out the hard way. Tried opening up to a woman I liked and it just ended up being extra baggage for her in the end. People don't want more problems so its best to keep that to yourself.
I'm right now a 39 year old man. Yes, men get treated worse then women. It needs to stop but it won't.