Can You Charge a Non Tesla with a Tesla Charger? Lectron Tesla to J-1772 Adapter
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- We show you where you can and cannot charge a non Tesla EV with a Tesla Charger using the Lectron Tesla to J-1772 Adapter. This adapter pays for itself over time with being able to use Tesla Destination chargers for free instead of being charged to use a Blink or Chargepoint unit. It has also saved me on road trips when I've arrived at a destination that only had Tesla Destination chargers available. I've linked the adapter below on both Lectron's website as well as on Amazon.
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All you clowns sniping about “click bait”, FO. He has presented very useful information, especially for new EV owners. MOST charging is NOT done at DC Fast charging. You childish comments just expose your ignorance.
Yeah, they should be after Elon/Tesla for allowing it in Europe and no in the U.S.!
The thumbnail is clickbait. Why show a Tesla supercharger and then only cover destination chargers. Boo
FO
That'll be in part 2!
I am glad you mention at the end that the adapter does not work with the supercharger network. That was the question on the tip of my tongue.
If one is made/the network is opened to all, then I will finally be able to have my revenge for all those Teslas that have been hogging the two J-1772 units at my local shopping plaza.
If I encounter the driver, I always politely mention the "new" information that I had heard about the adapter that Tesla has made. One that would allow them to use the CCS charger units....over there!
Shocking how many Tesla owners cry poverty and say they can't afford the adapter.
Yes, I am annoyed that new installations seem to be only providing CCS and have apparently decided to neglect those of us who only charge with J-1772.
I agree and think restaurants and shops underestimate the increase in business by adding a complimentary clipper creek unit
@@EVMotoring Just a quick update.
I have had a certified electrician install a separate 50 Amp, 240 Volt circuit to my garage, with its own breaker box, to supply power to a 32A Blink home charger and that certainly does cut down the recharge time compared to using the regular 120 Volt outlets.
@@pauld6967 that’s great! Level 2 charging makes life so convenient for me because it allows me to plug in ever 3-5 days rather than everyday
Your wish is granted. Can’t wait to charge on those electron pumps next year when it’s open to everyone.
I started with Nissan Leafs in 2013, moved to Teslas in 2018, have two, and I also have a 2017 Fiat 500E. Several family members have EVs that have NO DC fast charging capability. This adapter allows the to use some Tesla Supercharger locations, not the Superchargers, where Tesla also installed their Destination chargers like the one in the video. My sister stops at the Kettleman City Supercharger location to use the Destination charger for her 2015 Mercedes EV. I keep one of these adapters in my Fiat 500E.
I was considering one of those MB 250's a few years back! How is it holding up?
Just one thing you missed though. Tesla Gen 3 chargers can be configured via owners software to reject connection to any non-tesla so you may find that you cannot charge in some circumstances!
I find that half the Tesla Destination Chargers work on non-Tesla cars.
Video is already outdated because it’s opening up to all fast charging vehicles in 2024.
@@hugegamer5988 It's not outdated. This video discusses AC charging and has nothing to do with DC Supercharging
@@Techridr you’re wrong. The comment was about the newest level 2 Tesla chargers validating the vehicle and ALL Tesla chargers are being opened to the public. Google it.
@@hugegamer5988this has nothing to do with DCFC
I have a Lectron adapter. It works great. One thing to note is they sell several different ones. The cheaper ones support lower amps. Make sure you buy one that matches the top charge level of your car. For example if your car can handle 48 amp, don't get the adapter that only supports 40 amps. Because if you do any you plug into a charger that supplies 48 amps, your car will ask for the full 48 amps as it doesn't know you have the adapter that can't handle it. But I would recommend getting one of these if you are going to be charging at hotels.
I always recommend the 48 amp model so it mostly future proofs since most EV’s don’t charge over 11 kW
Joe, you're right about the Tesla chargers as they are very high quality and they gave been used for many years in all climates. The higher level two like 48 amp / 11.5 kw is almost a must for electric trucks with 135 to 212 kwh battery packs are a must for overnight-hotel charging. I think all new 2023 level 2 chargers should be a minimum of 40 amps for the future.
I have a 48A / 11.5kW charger on a 60A dedicated breaker and it’s almost too fast. 3.6kW is enough for like 97% of my needs.
Ehhh, I just bought a 2019 Model 3 and the previous owner kept the portable charging cable. I would start expecting to not see cables with cars. That being said this stuff is cheap reactivate the cost of the car. I picked up a portable Tesla charger for $200 from Tesla. Also those older silver Tesla chargers often support up to 16kw or faster. The white ones are limited to 48amps because that is as fast as any Tesla can charge today on level 2. Regardless its cheaper to have a Tesla as far as options with regards to chargeing.
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I sell used chargers. I was called by Hyundai Dealer in my country to sell them any charger I had. They wanted to sell a plug in hybrid, but the car was not delivered with a charger, and they could not order one.
I think this makes it easier than having to drive further just to find a charger compatible with your ev.
I find the J1772 Level 2 plugs to be far more common than the Tesla destination chargers. The latter are usually at hotels and limited to guests. We have a new Rivian Waypoint station with J1772 plug in town that provides 11 kw and is free. Most Level 2 chargers are very reliable.
I agree that there are more J1772 plugs out there. This just adds to the amount of chargers to chose from. I haven’t gotten to try one of the Rivian units yet
@@EVMotoring I am sure it is different in different parts of the country but in Colorado there are only 364 Tesla Destination charger plugs compared to 3,000 J1772 plugs. Granted the adapter provides even more options.
@@COSolar6419 I believe it’s true across the country that there are way more J1772 plugs. I’ve just encountered times where there is a chargepoint or blink unit that’s quite expensive and slow and a Tesla destination that’s fast and free. I’ve also run into an issue when I went to Glacier that the J1772 plug was in use so having the adapter saved my life because i needed to charge.
@@EVMotoring Yes, best to be prepared.
Thanks so much for this we are about to test drive and consider an EV and i thought the tesla chargers were set up in such a way that you cannot charge any other vehicle from them,i assumed the power was totally different to other EV s so that if you attempted to use it the way your doing the car might even cause long-lasting damage,to all the electrics throughout the car,so you have proved me wrong and i am so glad ,many thanks again,
Congrats on your EV adventure! This adapter is only for Tesla Destination Chargers. Not Superchargers
@@EVMotoring Yes fully understand many thanks again,brilliant video,Cheers from the uk,
@@peterryan7827 keep in mind this is ONLY for Tesla Destination chargers. It will NOT work on any Tesla chargers that are white and red. Just a heads up.
as I mentioned earlier the Tesla Gen 3 wall connector (charger) has three software options 1, any vehicle 2 any Tesla or 3 Just one specified Tesla. At least this is what I have in the UK and it looks identical to the one in your video.
@@Warekiwi I believe that is a Europe situation since all EV’s use the same plug. To the best of my knowledge, they are just non smart chargers here which means you plug them in and they start charging. That’s what allows this adapter to work on J1772 cars.
I have an EV6 and can charge anywhere. I don’t get what you are saying. I charge at ChargePoint and electrify america all over.
The car doesn’t come with an EVSE for using at home. You probably had to buy and install a charger at home.
@@EVMotoring oh ya. It came free with the car. I was mistaking what you said I guess.
You can now
I just got a 2024 Kia EV6 and it came with a level 1 charger, just fyi
The j1772 standard goes up to 19.2 kw 240v at 80A.
Very interesting Joee! I do love that I usually have no problem at the Tesla Chargers
The Lectron adapter he used did not work with our new 2024 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4Xe and our Tesla Mobile connector in our garage. I tried two other adapters (Nivion 80Amp and Seguma), which were recommended by others on You Tube, and they did not work either. I spoke to three different tech departments and no one was able to solve the problem. The Tesla charger works fine with our Tesla and the Jeep factory charger works fine with the Jeep. I did everything all of the tech people suggested I do to trouble shoot the problem. I waited 30 seconds after I connected the adapter to the Tesla connector before plugging into the Jeep, I tried starting the Jeep while connected to clear the message on the dashboard, I disconnected everything and reconnected everything three times, I bought the 80 Amp version of the Nivion adapter bc someone said the 48 Amp version wouldn't work, I tried a brand new Tesla Mobile Connector I had which came with our second Tesla, and so on. Nothing works. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Check settings one the mobile connector if it has any. I've been lied to believe that wall units had a setting fire Tesla only, but I don't know if the mobile connector has that also. Could be DIP switches or Wi-Fi.
I believe the reason the Tesla destination chargers are free is because Tesla foots the bill for those, no? I’d be upset if driving a Tesla and pulled up to an ID4 charging overnight at one of these, especially if there was a non Tesla option on site
Tesla provided the hardware, but the hotel/location pays for the electricity. You can be pissed all you want, but you have no right to a destination charger anymore than the ID4 does.
No more than I should be to find a Tesla at an EA station when I have free charging there.
At superchargers I’m seeing info that says they’re adding a CCS cable to the retrofitted chargers. So no adapter needed.
That would be great! Would that mean there would be 1 less Tesla plug then?
Thanks for the video. I'll look into getting that adapter for my bolteuv.
It’s currently a little cheaper thru the lectron link than on Amazon.
@EV Motoring just bought it thru lectron. They gave 5% discount on top of being cheaper than Amazon. Thanks 👍👍
Fun fact - in Europe with 3 phase supply you can have 11kW at 16A
Correct me if I'm wrong but this is stealing something you have not paid for (not a Tesla Owner). Tesla is starting to charge for use of these stations so your usage may vary in the future.
Do you have a source of Tesla charging for these?
More proof is that Tesla is the EV leader given that everyone wants to use Tesla chargers. Thanks, Tesla for leading, the others are following.
$2.8 billion in corporate welfare since 2009 helps a company build their infrastructure.
FYI...Some car charger units are custom made for the cars they are combo'ed with. For example, the LUCID. They supply a 120/240V unit with the car. I was able to get 11KW into my AIR GT. However, when I pluggedthe LUCID Charger into my 2019 Bolt, the unit only delivered 6KW. Which clearly indicated that the charging unit was programmed / optimized for the LUCID only. I converted my Blink (installed in 2011, I was a very early adopter) to a dummy unit when the original Blink went belly up. It is now just a dummy charger and charges at 11KW. However, for some odd reason the programming of the LUCID doesn't like that the Blink is a dummy charger and the LUCID drops the charging from that unit to 7KW. So some very strange things going on with the different chargers / programming of the cars.
That is because the charger is actually onboard the car. The item you plug in the wall just supplies power based on what the car can accept.
@@EVMotoringYou are referring to the charge controller. I confirmed with LUCID that they tuned their charger for their cars, and that any other car will not get the same performance from their charger.
@@terrytexas8257 the device you plug into the wall is not a charger. It is a evse. I have an evse from Lectron that also supplies 11 kW, however my Tesla can only accept 7.6 kW so that’s all it receives. Most brands try to say their evse is unique because they want to sell it to customers. For example, ford uses units from another supplier but significantly marks up the unit with the ford logo despite there being no power or connectivity differences.
@@EVMotoring yea, the evse is a glorified lamp dimmer circuit. The car just tells it how much to dim the power.
CLARIFICATION: (6:45) I'm pretty sure Kia does provide Level 1 and Level 2 on-board chargers. What this gentleman likely forgot to mention is that what Kia does not provide is a Level 1 and or Level 2 charging CABLE.
Correct, they do not provide the EVSE.
Bought an EV6 and it came with a Charge Point Level 2 charger, which I installed in my garage on a 50A circuit. Maybe it was something the dealer threw in but otherwise, the car does not come with any cable or plug.
This is true, I also have an ev6 and it didn't come with a charging cable. The one you got was probably a limited time promotion some dealerships were doing at the time...from what I understand a handful (and growing) of car manufacturers are doing away with offering charging cables since most people never use them so that added cost to include it is going to the dealership...keeping in mind that local electric utility companies offer big discounts on ev accessories, so they probably figure people are doing that instead.
@@lexlopez15 same here with my Kia EV6, no evse. It’s more than a cable, it’s a glorified lamp dimmer circuit where the car just asks it to reduce from max power. I have a lutron 3.6kW 120/240 plus all kinds of adapters (came with common120v adapter and I made both US rv plugs, both common dryer plugs, common oven plug, and the common welder plug) and it all fits in my frunk. Plus I have a 100’ extension cord rated for more than 240V and 16A that stores in the trunk in that slim space below the actual trunk floor and the body below. Amazing because I can charge almost anywhere.
I assume you Can use the Lectron vortex adapter for the Tesla supercharger
Thanks for this video, it was very informative! I wonder if that Lectron adapter is what Ford will be providing to their customers prior to converting to the Tesla connector? Looks pretty slick - much more compact than the dongle adapter that you were using previously!
I’m not sure which adapter Ford will provide yet, but I really do like the compact size on quality of the Lectron products. It would make sense since Lectron is a little for budget friendly than Tesla’s adapters too.
Now that Tesla is adding super adapters I hope that Lectron will drop the price on their adapters.
That’s a nice gas car parked in the ev spot. They must be blind, steer clear of them on the road.
I was lucky that the clipper creek had a long enough cord!
@@EVMotoring and you didn't point out they ICE'd spot like other reviewers Kudos!
We have a ‘3%er’ in our community, who makes it a point to park his truck at the only public J1772 charging station!
Literally 9pm to 7am is 10 hours 😂😂
Great video. Did you just order the adapter from Amazon?
@@StrongEnergy-EVCharging yea that’s the easiest way but it is a little cheaper on their website usually tho
@@EVMotoring thanks! 🙏
Great video! I continue to be shocked at the difference in reliability between Tesla chargers and everyone else (both level 2 and DC chargers). The Electrify America network is so unreliable it's downright scary to try to travel across the country biting your nails hoping the charger at your next stop will work. Why is it that Tesla chargers can be so reliable and everything else is so sketchy...and rarely hit the promised charge rate?
The others will be forced to improve if and when Tesla opens up their network.
@@EVMotoring That’s a great point.
Thanks for the tip. However, you made no mention of the difference in the longest one versus the shorter one that you're recommending? Again, thanks
The shorter one is more affordable and more compact. I like it more.
At 220 v in I get 120 out but clipper Creek was around 245 250 in and 135 out of the st 5000 VA stepdown transformer
Very informative video learned a lot from this one thanks so much
That's a really nice product 👍
Hi can I charge a Kia in a supercharger of Tesla with that adapter
This adapter doesn’t work at superchargers. Just Tesla destination chargers. There will be a different adapter soon that will allow supercharger use
I bought this adapter but it does not work for my VW ID.4.
Does any one know, why it does not work on ID.4?
Thanks,
Just picked one up for $119 on Amazon's warehouse deals.
I got Lectron off ebay for $122 shipped plus taxes. These were $199 two years ago until recently see a Lighting hogging favorite restaurant parking garage when thr two Tesla stalls are open. Though I wouldn't displace a Tesla owner at a destination charger but would leave a sticky note on my car saying you can unplug me. There is a 3rd undesinated parking spot next to the two Tesla parking parking spaces.
The amperage is too low to give you 11kW. (48A * 201V)/1000 = 9.6kW
Still better than the other charger though, good tip - thanks!
Actually, it's the voltage that's too low. 48Ax240V/1000=11.52kW. But that's typical at commercial properties. 240v is more likely at a residential property, like if you had a 48A EVSE at home.
Good video but why do it in front of a super charger
Good information, with your experience which hotels usually have the most charging station?
I need this adapter cause I live in my van and can utilize j1772 but I'm broke
I think it’s on sale if you use my shareasale link.
@@EVMotoring not really in the budget I'm trying to get a bigger van to live in
Clipper Creek is junk I couldn't use it in my setup my inverter charger would pass the 135 v out of the stepdown transformer I use for j1772
Nice video thanks Joe! Do you know if the is a adapter for Tesla supercharger stations now?
Why is your car shaking so much while you are sitting inside charging?
Thank you❤
I have this Lectron adapter, and it has never worked for me. I tried it once on the Level 2 charger at my brother's house, and two other times at Tesla destination chargers. Nothing.
Two different things to check.. It's possible that your brother's charger is set to charge Tesla only. I've read that some were set by default via DIP switches to only charge Tesla vehicles. Newer wall chargers were set via Wi-Fi--again default was Tesla only.
As for the destination chargers, I had the same problem where I live. Tried at least four different adapters (not the Lectron) from Amazon that didn't work at certain DCs. I thought the problem was the above mentioned settings. In my research I discovered there are different generations of DCs, so I started taking pics of the serial numbers to try and identify them. That's when I discovered that some are actually wired 3-phase, 277V/80A. Those are the ones that I could never get to work! The adapters were all rated for 250V max. If you still have the option you might check that on the DCs you tried before just to see if that's the problem.
Chevrolet gave the 240 v adapater and also installing a 240 volt power outlet at home. This is so cheap and we can still use with Tesla destination chargers. Will this adapter work at Tesla super chargers ?.
No, this won’t work at Superchargers. Those need the “magic dock”. Currently approx 3 locations in California and 7 locations in New York have them.
@@EVMotoring Right now I will go to Tesla destination chargers.
@@EVMotoring Looks like I will need a Tesla to J-1772 adapter to charge at Tesla destination chargers. I was confused between J-1772 and CCS adapters. My confusion is cleared. Thanks for making this video.
Aside from the adapter. What else do I need to use a Tesla station. (Ie) payment.
Thanks
Tesla destination chargers are currently complementary. I believe payment will take place through the Tesla app when that starts happening in the future but we don’t know yet. This adapter is not for Tesla superchargers
@@EVMotoring as long as it not a super charger I can use Tesla……
I always wonder if you have a non-Tesla if there is a way to use a Tesla charger. Also hate how non-elec cars are parked on elec charging parking slots. Would the hotel tow those cars?
It’s really up to the hotel how they want to enforce the parking. Just a reminder that this adapter is just for Tesla Destination chargers not super chargers.
KIA ev 6 comes with a level one charger. I know since I have one.
@@henryblowry7714 did you have to pay extra for it? When they first came out, they didn’t have one.
@henry you may confuse that V2L plug the EV6 comes with with a level 1 charger. My dealer threw in a Charge Point L2 unit but Kia does not provide any cables.
Some kia dealers had a promotion when the ev6 came out where they provided a charging cable. I bought my ev6 a few months ago and it didn't come with one. A lot of ev manufacturers are removing them since not a lot of people use them anyway...I traded in my volt for the ev6 and I removed my charging cable for that and they didn't hold it against me.
What keeps someone from unplugging and stealing the adapter?
The car locks the charging port so nothing can be unplugged without unlocking the car
@@EVMotoring is that true with every car?
@@chada472 I wouldn’t make an absolute statement but I think so. Every car I’ve driven has had this feature.
Curious why you show a level 3 charger in your video cover image?
I wanted to get Teslas logo in the picture and the Destination chargers don’t have a bright red logo
@@EVMotoring oh gotcha. It was a good video but my expectation was you were going to discuss rapid charging on the Tesla network at some point, so was a bit disappointed
@@ledavee hopefully that’s coming soon once the network is opened up. Unfortunately there is no way to activate a Tesla supercharger at this point. The adapter is also available on the Lectron website tho
2023 ID4 comes with no charger
Correct, they made that change with the American made model. The cost of this adapter and a Tesla 32amp charger is less than the one VW is trying to sell at dealers
tesla have contract with ford. Tesla supercharges are allowing ford vehicles to charge. no other brand vehicles
Click bait
FO
Go to Europe then!
Can you use the adaptor on a level 3 charger?
Why do the vlog people walk back and forwards....All the time
do you know if they make j1772 to ccs combo adapters?
Since Tesla sells a J1772 Wall Connector it would be nice if they made a J1772 Tesla Mobile Connector.
Tesla has the adapter for Tesla propierty to J1772 and for a year or more
Kia might do the right thing about the cable. You should get a hardwired charger.
The new Volkswagen dual charger is quite nice. It does not come with the car.
Is that 2ø charging for 11kw then? Or only single ø?
The adapter for a supercharger has been "coming soon" for at least a year. Elon time. 😁😁
NOT up to Elon. Up to non-Tesla manufacturers to jump in.
Downvote for the clickbait thumbnail.
FO
Go to Europe then!
🔥🔥🔥
One more reason not to buy ev6
Ev6 will have a NACS (Tesla) port next year
Yes but slowwwww
Clickbait thumbnail!!! Never watch your channel
Would be nice if Lectron made one that works above 48 amps.
I have the 80 amp TeslaTap for that reason
But you still won’t be able to use ANY Tesla Supercharger or Urban charger (white and red Tesla chargers), they are DC charging.
@@njguy2 Yeah, but it's more than twice the price.
@@bigdougscommentary5719 yup, only for destination charging. But lost of the first generation destination chargers are 80 amps, so more powerful than this can handle of you have an EV that can accept more than 48 amps (like a Ford Lightning).
You can"t charging a Non-Tesla with a Tesla charger in a few years... because Tesla will use a induction charging, with a pad under the Tesla, its the beginning of the end for non-Tesla car in a charging point!
not a supercharger dude
there is so much wrong information in this video it should be pulled. I have installed both clipper Creek model of EVSE u showed and also the Gen 3 Tesla EVSE u showed and i know exactly y the "rate of Charge was different . It has absolutely nothing to do with lectron adapter ! furthermore, get the descriptions for EV changing correct. The CHARGER for ALL EV cars is on the CAR ! the EVSE is a power source to the onboard car charger. The onbroad charger is rated . Wow !
go tesla !!!!! click bate having the tesla supercharger in your video thumbnail.
Go to Europe then!
Just buy a Tesla!