"The Railway Series" Engines in Real Life
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- 0:00 - Thomas
0:46 - Edward
1:25 - Henry
2:09 - Gordon
3:08 - James
3:39 - Percy
4:03 - Toby
4:28 - Duck
5:07 - Donald and Douglas
5:29 - Oliver
6:18 - Bill and Ben
6:55 - Boco
7:26 - Diesel
8:02 - Skarloey
8:14 - Rheneas
8:26 - Sir Handel
8:33 - Peter Sam
8:45 - Rusty
8:50 - Duncan
8:55 - Duke
9:02 - Stanley
9:06 - Daisy
9:44 - Mavis
10:17 - Stepney
10:57 - Arlesdale Railway (Rex, Bert, Mike)
11:42 - Culdee Fell Railway
This is a compilation to look at the engines we serve as the basis for the engines in Reverend Wilber Awdry's "The Railway Series." Thomas is an LB&SCR E2/LNER J50; Edward a Furness Railway K2 (not photographed)/BR D20; Henry a GCR Ivatt Atlantic/LMS Stanier Black 5; Gordon a GCR/LNER Gresley A1; James ; Percy a GWR Trojan; Toby a LNER J70 (not photographed); Duck a GWR Pannier tank; Donald and Douglas a Caledonian Railway 812 class; Bill and Ben are dockside shunters; Boco a CoBo diesel; Diesel a BR 04; Skarloey a Fletcher, Jennings 0-4-2 "Talyllyn;" Rheneas a Fletcher, Jennings 0-4-0 Patent type "Dolgoch;" Sir Handel and Peter Sam from the Corris Rwy.; Rusty based on Midlander; Duncan on Douglas of the TR; Duke from the Ffestiniog Rwy's Prince; Stanley a WWI American 4-6-0 trench engine; Daisy a BR diesel railcar; Mavis a BR 08; Stepney based on the namesake; Rex, Bert and Mike from the Ravenglass and Eskdale Rwy.; Culdee Fell based on the Snowdon Mountain Railway.
Partial audio credit to Sudrain Afro for his wonderful recreations of the Thomas themes.
Hope you enjoy!
Hope you enjoy! - Krátké a kreslené filmy
what a shame that only some of the engines exist
People That want E2 back
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I think if the E2s were to be rebuilt they should be like the P2 group at Doncaster and improve on the design slightly
@@WaltsNephew also that coach is in Season 1 3:49
I want the E2 and K2 class
Hey, if we got an new A1, i don't think an E2 would be harder to make
It's probably bcuz the E2 Class engine contaminated too much
Seeing this footage accompanied by Mike and Junior’s music really shows how well they were able to capture and personify each engine’s personality. Gordon feels really grand, Percy feels very squat and cheeky, etc.
Fair introduction video for people who may not be as familiar as I am about the bases for these iconic characters. You may pay particular note to the Bill and Ben-related segment, where you can clearly see why their basis and the wagons used on their private railway had to be so low in height. A narrow bridge clearance was meant to be the case with Bill and Ben as well; however the Reverend Awdry never elaborated on it. Regards, Samuel Farris.
Absolutely right Sam! Bill and Ben's basis were designed specifically to fit under that small overpass (which makes it considerably difficult for a tall person like me to get comfortable in their squat cabs hahaha). Hope you enjoyed!
Duck and Oliver’s basics each are very easy-told, and so is Diesel
Exactly right; Rev. Awdry started with Duck as a more realistic take to the basis of the engines rather than finding engines that were similar to the previous characters
Oh god! I never knew there still have existing footage of fr k2
Also look at 1:06 the driver give a cheer at the cameramen what a nice guy
A happy driver! Although this is not a FR K2 because, unfortunately, only photographs exist and not footage. What you see here are the other partial-basis engines for Edward's real-life counterparts
@@WaltsNephew ik but it's still looks cool!
11:57. At first, I thought it was just the Breinz Rorthorn Bahn railway. But I later found out that it was the Snowdon Mountain Railway.
Yes indeed! The bizarre little cog railway of Wales
I find it odd how through his entire life,Gordon never got a corridor tender like the flying scotsman,it just struck me as odd because at some point in Gordon's life he would have to get a3 modifications at Doncaster which included a corridor tender,i
Maybe awdry didnt want to for design purposes.
Interesting idea! I think since Gordon belongs to the NWR and Scotsman is LNER (eventually BR and private ownership) they would be subjected to different protocol. Furthermore, since Gordon's express is a stopping train that does not last all day, he wound't need more than one footplate crew
Well, I think the in-universe reason is the fact Gordon never got a Doncaster rebuild. He was rebuilt by Crewe instead, so would've gotten a 6-wheel tender anyway. Don't particularly like a Fowler tender on him, but a Fowler tender makes _slightly_ more sense for the size of Sodor's mainline compared to a LNER 8-wheeler.
It's pretty likely Gordon would've arrived on Sodor with a GNR-style 8-wheel tender (with the coal rails) but we never saw that in the books. There's a theory (could be a canon explanation but I'm not sure) that the reason certain engine's are drawn so differently in the early books compared to their basis is because the illustrators were going off how the engines would've looked when the books were _published_, not when they took place. Gordon doesn't look like a "proper" A1 not just because he's the prototype, but because the illustrator would've been using Gordon's rebuilt form as a reference! It's the same reason Edward looks a bit bigger than a real Furness K2, because he would've been rebuilt at least once by the mid-40's, or why Henry's old shape is so inconsistent because they only had descriptions to use
Sorry if I overexplained, I just find it interesting how little inconsistencies work into the lore of the series
Amazing! This stock footage is incredible, especially the shots of the engines pulling freight cars, looks like it’s straight out of the TV series!
Thank you kindly! Some of these shots are very evocative of the Railway Series illustrations and tv series shots haha
I liked Henry's shot the best because the coaches his basis was pulling looked exactly like the express orchestra in the rws
@@hamzsportsgaming676 Very true!
@@WaltsNephew it should be the other way around that the railway series is evocative of this, since the original locomotives were built far before the books were written
@@bennickss True, but in the sense that "evoking" something brings back strong memories, feelings or images, it can be either way in this context
For anyone wondering why the D40 was used for Edward, there is no footage, at least not any that I know of, of the K2s in steam.
Yes indeed! I would LOVE to find a K2 on film, but so far my research efforts have come up empty
Okay let me say how clever this actually is. You went a few different angles for this and I actually understood each of them. Lemme break them down some of these if else confused
Thomas: Obviously his iconic shape is based on the LBSCR E2, with the extended tanks, but teh J50 dates back to the very first model of Thomas, which Wilbert Awdry made for Christoper. It probably wasn't meant to be a J50, but the sloping side tanks of that old wooden model are very reminiscent of that class.
Edward: I actually don't think Awdry had a class in mind when thinking of Edward other than "typical British 4-4-0", and the classes chosen for this video are actually quite close. The LNER D20 bears the enclosed cab Edward has, instead of the open cab more common to old 4-4-0's. As for the D40, not only does it have a closer overall design to Edward, but I think it's the only preserved British 4-4-0 that's the closest to Edward's official class, the Furness K2. Both are Scottish-built 4-4-0's with roughly 6ft driving wheels, used on railways with small tender engines in hilly terrain, and have a very similar power output.
Henry: Awdry meant for Henry to be an Atlantic at first, to be a middle ground in design between Gordon & Edward. But illustrators kept messing him up so Henry was retconned to be a failed prototype Pacific, which in concept was just a larger Atlantic. But he wanted him to be drawn correctly, so he became the first engine in the series with an actual basis, the numerous LMS Black 5.
Gordon: What else is there to say, Awdry meant for Gordon to be a Doncaster Pacific from the start. While he isn't a _full_ Doncaster thoroughbread anymore, the lineage in undeniable. And he's the only engine on the railway to have an established, real-life, sibling.
James: While he's a 2-6-0, James is pretty much based on the concepts of 0-6-0s. The LNWR 18-in "Cauliflower" is quite typical, and represents the second-last railway James worked for before coming to Sodor (also fairly certain they used to have wooden brakes). The Furness D5's, rebuilt with L&Y boilers, bear resemblance to James as well with their Belpaire fireboxes and different shaped cabs. And finally the L&Y Class 27 bears a direct lineage to James because he's officially based on a Class 28, which themselves were rebuilds of the 27's. Assuming James was modified to have his pony truck and wasn't actually built with it, this actually implies that James was rebuilt _twice_, and that's _before_ coming to Sodor!
Percy: Probably has the strangest origin, as even Awdry states he's not sure what class Percy actually is, or who his builder is. However, he _does_ cite Trojan as having some influence in Percy's design, though never states Percy is based on Trojan directly
Toby: Slightly upset no footage of the LNER J70 trams has surfaced, though the concept of steam trams running on and alongside public roads is dead on. In fact, I believe the first tram featured in this segment and its coach formed the basis for _another_ steam tram character decades later in the form of Flora!
Duck: Pretty obviously based on the most numerous Class of British tank engine, the GWR 5700 class; a design synonomous with the Great Western. Bonus points for using shots of the class with two autocoaches, as Duck does gain two of them in Wilbert's later books.
Donald & Douglas: Another perfect representation, and the first engines to join the railway, arriving in their official BR paint, crests and all (though minus their add-on numbers of course, heheh). And one of their class is preserved in blue, just like they are in the books!
Oliver: I just realized...Oliver runs away to Sodor with an Autocoach and a GWR Brake Van. Could Awdry have been inspired to use the consist from The Titfield Thunderbolt as inspiration? Also, excellent use of a 1400 class with two autocoaches (Oliver gains another after joining the railway), and another 1400 seemingly prevailing over a diesel! Especially a Multiple Unit, since those would've been the types of trains to replace Push-Pull engines like Oliver
Bill & Ben: I don't think Awdry ever gave an in-universe explaination as to why these two are so short in the books, aside from their basis, but their basis is pretty damn inarguable. Weird to think how Bill & Ben are said to be twins, but their basis', Alfred & Judy, are over a decade apart in age!
BoCo: His name is just a syllable-swap of the Co-Bo nickname for his class, the BR Class 28. Strangely, BoCo likely travelled the least distance of most characters to get to Sodor, since his entire class was based in Barrow-in-Furness when he first arrived on the island in the mid-60's. The only other engine in the books that would've been based around there beforehand is the engine BoCo shares a branchline with: Edward!
Diesel: If Duck is representative of the Pannier tank and all things Great Western, Diesel is representaive of all things BR Modernisation Plan. That plan was actually revised in 1957, one year before Duck & the Diesel Engine was published. And the Class 08 specifically is basically to BR what the 5700's were to the GWR in terms of purpose and numbers
Aaaaaand I think I'll stop here LOL
You've obviously done your research and I applaud you for it hahaha I highly recommend you take a gander at Brian Sibley's biography for the Reverend. He explains in there Percy is based off the model Awdry made without any basis kit or engine class in mind
@@WaltsNephew Explains why Percy's such a kitbash in design. Also thanks! I'd like to think two decades worth of following the series, and decade of learning about its development and real British locos in general helped a lot in that regard
Wow, so well informed! Thank you for your thorough insight.
Kind of ironic, because Thomas's physical shape in the illustrations is closer to a Jinty than an E2, if you look at the front proportions.
I like how you used an Atlantic for some of Henry's moments. I'm guessing that's a nod to how Awdry originally wanted him to be one?
Exactly! Since this is focusing on Awdry's RWS in book form, I had to include 4-4-2 Henry since the early illustrations depicted him that way (at least from Awdry's perspective as you said haha)
@@WaltsNephew yup
The skarloey railway ones are easy because there are tons upon tons of footage on a certain Narrow Gauge Railway in Wales Stepney as well
Exactly; not only by amateur film makers or home footage but also from official sources such as the BBC documenting the railways during the very first years of preservation
The Tallyllyn Railway In Wales, Yes I've Heard of that
The start of daisy’s theme gives me cruella de vil vibes
I read somewhere that it reminds some people of "strip-tease" music hahaha Either that or "southern belle" style of a motif
@@WaltsNephew I can see a bit of that but seeing that I’m a kid born in 05 who grew up watching older Disney movies (Bambi, 101 Dalmatians, and jungle book, etc) I hear curella’s theme
A bit sinister with a flair egotism; I can see that
@@WaltsNephew yeah and if you pair up the tunes together you can hear the similarities
@@WaltsNephew You ever noticed Diesel’s theme has a similar vibe as “Trust in Me”?
4:11 that’s flora’s basis
Toby is a J70
Correct
I like how it is Awdry’s Henry
Exactly why I put the Atlantics in here!
now this is new shape 1:44
Indeed, the Black 5 shape
Rusty and Duncan have their own theme you know
You're very right! My initial intention was to include each individual's leitmotif but since their screen time was so short, I figured I would have the Skarloey Rwy. theme throughout for all the engines
To those that may be less familiar with Henry and James: regarding Henry he was shown as two engines because he was originally a c1 Atlantic mixed with an A1 pacific and got rebuilt into a black 5. As for James, he is a one-off experimental design of the y&l class 28 with a front pony truck to prevent him from nosediving at high speeds
This is probably the one of the coolest Thomas videos ever
Thank you! When I've more time during the summer, I intend to make an amended version of this compilation, so stick around!
@@WaltsNephew Awesome
Now I definitely understand why the Fat Controller is always mad when one of his engines had an accident, I mean look how big they're and probably how expensive for him to get things cleaned
Love this just love this big thanks
Thank you very much!
Now this is a clever mash up
Well thank you! I share the same sentiment hahaha
I never knew footage of this even existed. Despite the fact all the E2s were scrapped i believe they managed 2 rebuild a replica of Thomas 4 the Thomas and the U.K trip event.
This is so cool!
Thank you very much!
@@WaltsNephew you're welcome.
Thanks for sharing all the cool locomotives That was awesome video to watch. Love the old video of the 20s &. 30 s
Yes indeed! I think the Railway Series does an excellent job at exposing the world to a wide variety of engineering feats with the several different designs for steam engines (and some diesels hahaha)
Yes
Even with design differences, different contexts, and no faces, every locomotive from this vid is without a doubt exactly like the original books
OMG Big nolstagia From Tv Show!
Absolutely! Although I only focused on the engines from Rev. Awdry's books hahaha
It's super marvelous how the Thomas and the rest of friends are based on their real-life basis.
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The real-life counterparts strikingly match 💯%.
And I even love how their theme songs are added.
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They're all ravishing. Meaning it's delightful.
😊😊🥰🥰
The Railway Roundabout sure captured all the engines moments.
Remember the movie, "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang"?
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The scene where the characters were singing the Chitty Chitty Bang Bang's song, they wave at the Train Conductor, and there's a locomotive that resembles either Ben or Bill.
It's fun to see them in action.
I love it.
That engine from "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" is actually an Austerity J94 dressed to look as if it were a GWR broad gauge saddle tank locomotive (in a very unconventional blue livery)!
@@WaltsNephew Wow.
At first, I honestly thought it was the Thomas' real-life counterpart, the E2, because of his distinctive 6 wheels.
From that scene, it's almost like Thomas character reference.
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@@WaltsNephew The "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" movie is wonderful as well as tremendous.
It's so fun-filled, whimsical and adventurous.
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The songs in the movie are magnificent, also.
I love how the songs from the movie have the Thomas Classic Soundtrack vibes.
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The 3 songs from the movie are "Posh", "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang", and "Hushabye Mountain" that brings the similarities in tune/rhythm or vibes from the Classic Soundtrack from Thomas that was composed and written by Mike O'Donnell and Junior Campbell.
1️⃣. "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang"/"Really Useful Engine"
2️⃣. "Posh"/"Down By The Docks" or "Night Train".
3️⃣. "Hushabye Mountain"/"The Island Song" or "A World Around You".
Duck is my fav character in thomas
RW:AMAZING ! X-D I love it ^_^
Thanks for enjoying!
A few problems here:
These aren’t railway series characters in real life, they are their basis
Edward was and always has been a furness railway k2, of which not much imagery exists
Due to the various screw ups throughout illustration, Henry was never portrayed as a 4-4-2 and was always a strange A1 missing the rear trailing wheels or a black 5 following his rebuild
Right, they are the basis. But, if you've ever taken a marketing class, you have to use more congenial language that is adaptive to a broader audience where the subject is more clearly recognized based on the simple title. As you noted, there is very little in the way of images for a Large Seagull from the FR so I substituted the other partial basis engines for both the Railway Series and the Reverend's model. In terms of Henry, he was always intended to be an Atlantic to make it remarkably easy for Christopher to differentiate between the three railway engines easily and it is for that reason the Ivatt Atlantic is featured here
No I think he was supposed to look like Gordon I think
@@FlyingFoxProductions8995 In the first published version of the book the illustrator made the mistake of having Henry be a Pacific just like Gordon, yes. But in Awdry's sketches for Christopher and the illustrator he portrayed Henry as an Atlantic to help differentiate Henry and Gordon visually
While Edward is a K2 this is pretty good
Quite true! As I make known in the description there is no known footage of a K2 in action so I made due with some of Edward's other basis engines
@@WaltsNephew ok
I'm suprise that Percy and Donald/Douglas is the only engine that caught in 4k. Other doesn't.
Well some of the engines weren't filmed back in their heyday so I had to make do with what was available. Sorry about that!
Hey! Atleast edward has a coloured footage
@@therandomguy1592 I know but I'm talking about the camera's resolution while recording these locomotives, not the colours *but ok*, atleast I get to see these engines in 30s.
@@mario493 yeah
Walt's Nephew this video is totally amazing, I didn't know that you would dedicate the memorable characters from The Railway Series and of course Thomas and Friends, by showing their real life counterpart locomotives.
I think you really did a good job on this video, however I spotted one mistake.
The tram engine that you featured on this video, are sort of the wrong steam trams. Because those were not the same trams that Toby was based off.
I forgot the name of the steam tram of what Toby is based off, but the kind of steam tram that Toby is based off. Is a wooden type of steam tram. Like the first original interurban red cars of the Pacific electric, because if you can remember those trolley cars. They look like trolley cars made by pullman, which I believe they were made by Pullman. But anyway those old cars were made entirely out of wood.
And so the steam trams from England, one of their first original steam trams that they made we're made entirely out of wood. And they had like four windows, two windows on the right side of the steam tram and two windows on the left side of tram locomotive. And of course they had cow catchers on both the front and the back of those locomotives, and of course they even had side plates covering the wheels.
I wish you could have found old video footage of those old wooden British steam trams, the ones that Toby it's based off.
Even though you kind of made a mistake from there, because this video didn't show the real life counterparts of what Toby is based off. I still say you did a great job on this video, dedicating the characters from Thomas and Friends and The Railway Series, and showing of what the characters are based off
I tried so hard to find the J70's of the Wisbech and Upwell Tramway but, remarkably, nobody filmed them! So instead of showing just a photograph I found a steam tram from a nearby village of Wigan and a better alternative
@@WaltsNephew yeah that's okay.
But there was a question that I asked you on one of my comments from me for, and I haven't got an answer yet.
Are you a huge fan of Thomas the Tank Engine, along with all of his friends and the others from the island of sodor ?
I actually did respond with an answer but I will reiterate; yes I enjoy Thomas and Rev. Awdry's "Railway Series." I enjoy some of the television series (roughly the first 4 seasons) and from then onward my enjoyment decreases
@@WaltsNephew well that sounds cool to hear.
And just to let you know I enjoy the classic Thomas show as well, mainly from season 1 to season 7. I enjoy the show, from the Britt Allcroft era.
I even enjoyed the CGI show, from season 13 to season 20 or 21, I forgot I have to look it up again.
Because I'm sure it was season 22, when Mattel started to make it into Thomas and Friends Big World Big Adventures, which is the CGI show that I dislike the most.
So the classic era of the CGI show from season 13 to season 21 or 20 are the only ones of the CGI show that I like.
And just to let you know I have the original 26 Railway series books, written by the original author the Rev W Awdry. I even have the first Thomas the Tank Engine complete collection book, that contains all 26 really series books in one big book. Also by the original author.
So 26 + 1, which is the Thomas the Tank Engine complete collection. Would make it 27 books of my collection by the original author himself.
Just to let you know I even have three other railway series books, written by the author's son Christopher Awdry. I'm hoping to collect the other books written by him, the other railway series books that is by him. And his new Thomas the Tank Engine complete collection book, which contains all of his Railway series books all in one big book
I love this video, but one gripe. When it shows Toby, you used the Kensington Steam Trams, aka, Flora’s basis. Did you mean to do this? Or could you not find any j70 videos?
Correct, there appears to be no footage available of a J70 in motion so I had to make due with a metropolitan tram from Wigan. What's funny is that shortly after making and publishing this compilation I found footage of a LNER Y6/GER G15, an 0-4-0 cousin of Toby's basis. If I had found that bit of footage sooner, it would've been used here haha
The real life stepney
Nice
Thank you!
The Railway Series will enter the public domain in 2040.
Can you do the Christopher Awdry railway series engines next?
I'll let you in on my plans: I intend on redoing the Railway Series to include Christopher and THEN do a compilation with the TV series engines
Im not a train expert but im pretty sure that Toby's basis you put on screen was actually floras basis
7:42 wait is that a coach with a face._.
@@marcuspautu788the J70 in real life doesnt really have any photos or videos of it, thats why they use a different locomotive similar instead.
Thomas was originally an e2 with wheel arches with his chassy set lower then his siblings, and different brakes he somehow make it to sodor during World War one, got his boiler replaced for a better one, he got his smoke box straightened, and his bunker Atwell, at some point he crashed into the station masters house and got his running board straightened.
Quite right! This is a good backstory Awdry weaved into his books for the change in Thomas' design
I love it
So do I haha
Where did you find the footage of the k2?
4:06 Flora
Believe me, I tried SO hard to find a J70 in action but, remarkably, nobody bothered to film them in action. My initial plan was to crop a J70 and move it across a background of the Wisbech and Upwell Tramway but then I found these steam trams near Wigan and figured that this would be better than a stagnant photograph
Honestly in The railway series I think Thomas is a mix of an E4 and an E2 tank engine he has the boiler dome and funnel of an e2 as well as the coal bunker but is given a more flat running board and less detail much like an E4
I think it's a fascinating idea to wonder what the series would look like if Thomas were drawn as a J50
3:17 James was just showing off at the station again
He wouldn't be James if he didn't show off his red paint hahaha
@@WaltsNephew thats true
Edward theme sounds the best
It's definitely one of the most memorable
10:57-11:42 The music sounds like the Up River/Fultan ferry theme. What do you think?
Wound't surprise me since O'Donnell and Campbell wrote the music for each of those shows haha
And Alfred and Judy are so stumpy yet so wide is kinda funny
Jinty & Pug
I like the Edward one
Me too! The classic design of an English 4-4-0 really starts to show the intricate and Victorian/classical thinking of Edward's character
Real
VERY real haha
Toby was an J70 tram
Very true! No footage exists of the J70 engines (at least I couldn't find any) so I made due with a metropolitan steam tram from Wigan
@Benjamin Higgins Yes indeed! Again, sorry about the lack of footage of a genuine J70; had to make due with what was available haha
edward is a good model in real life and in the sieres and henry looks different in the first kople shots
Very much so!
I think the low profile of the Port of Par 0-4-0STs makes them look broad gauge🙂
It's very deceiving!
How did you get the footage of the trains i already got thomas the e2
You could have used pictures of J70 trams for Toby.
My initial thought was to have a cutout image of a J70 moving across a background, but I figured a genuine steam tram in motion would be the only good thing. So I had to improvise with footage of a metropolitan steam tram from Wigan c.1900
Where did you get the j50 footage for Thomas?
A documentary about LNER engines
I like James as a modified K4 class that had a simpler piston rod design much like Thomas's design
Interesting idea!
6:15 Oliver, Isabelle, and Toad 😀
Hahaha I didn't even realize that (although Isabelle was more of an auto coach than a composite Victorian 8-wheeled coach)!
@@WaltsNephew true, but it was close 😂😂😂
@@WaltsNephew The coach in the Titfield Thunderbolt is the longer version of Henrietta's basis.
@@danielsellers8707 Quite right! Rather than a 4-wheel coach, the Titfield saloon with bar is a double-bogie coach
What's Nephew just to let you know, my mom would always tell me that it was Thomas and Friends that got me into trains. Which was true in a way, but what really got me into trains at the same time since I was a kid, when I visited the Southern California Railway Museum and when I visited Disneyland and saw the trains from there.
It was really Disneyland, the Southern California Railway Museum and Thomas and Friends that got me into trains. And even VHS video cassettes about trains that got me into trains as well, and just to let you know I still have some of those train VHS cassettes. One of them that I have dedicates the Santa Fe Railroad, the Southern Pacific and the Union Pacific. I even have another one called there goes a train starring Dave Hood.
But for all my life I've been a huge fan of Thomas the Tank Engine and all of his friends from the island of sodor, I've also been a big fan of the American spin-off TV show that introduced Thomas to North America which was known as Shining Time Station.
So I'm not sure, are you also a fan of Thomas the Tank Engine. and are you also a fan and do you remember Shining Time Station as well ?
I never know Thomas was a television program until a few years ago, I only knew the Tank Engine through DVD releases; I enjoy Rev. Awdry's series and enjoy the first three to four seasons of the television series but I think it has taken a turn for the worst due to corporate greed, lack of original thought and adhering to railway regulation
@@WaltsNephew yeah you're right, I'm sure you heard about the new 2D Thomas show that will be coming out soon. When I saw the trailer for it, oh my God I thought it was really terrible. He kind of reminded me of the wacky sensation, and more cartoony type style like the old Mickey Mouse cartoons when they were in black and white and transferred into color. Those cartoons from the late 1920s, the 1930s and 40s.
If you don't know the company of Mattel now owns the rights to Thomas, and they are taking the show way out of hand. And they really making the show to be like almost like the old Mickey Mouse cartoon, but all in all they're trying to compete with other wacky TV shows out there such as SpongeBob. They don't realize how great the show was, when it sticked to more of Railway realism or Railway practice as the Rev W Awdry had described it.
Or Railway regulation as you said to me.
I hope Mattel will realize that the show will fail, and that nobody will watch the new 2D Thomas Show.
At first they made it worse by doing the previous Thomas series which was known as Thomas and Friends Big World Big Adventures, along with the animated movie as well. They added too many crazy Cooks for both the movie and the show, whenever they would talk they would move their bodies, which I thought was really unnecessary and uncalled for. They introduced the two new characters Nia and Rebecca in a very odd way, they were always making fun of Sir Topham Hatt giving him lots of trouble and so forth which I thought was unnecessary and really uncalled for. And above all, they had to do very unnecessary and uncalled for daydream sequences, which I thought we're really a nightmare to watch, really unnecessary and really uncalled for.
So anyway the previous Thomas CGI series Thomas and Friends Big World Big Adventures and even the movie we're really something that myself and the other Thomas fans didn't expect, and Mattel definitely ruined the show at first from there.
So if they failed with that show previously, I hope they'll realize that the 2D show will fail as well. Because I really predict that the new 2D animated Thomas Show will fail completely
@@DanielGomez-gw4kt YUP ITS BAD
Toby is an lner j70 if i remember correctly
You were right
Well thank you very much!
1:56 Baaa!
Hahahahahahaha That was wonderful
I like the caledonian twins they are only soo good
Hear-hear!
You got the wrong kind of tram loco for Toby, he is based off of an LNER J70, not a street tram
The J70 doesnt have videos of them, thats why they use a similar locomotive instead.
Really cool locomotives indeed! even these inspire me from time to time.
They sure are grand!
I see you saved the best for last.
Hahaha I have no idea why in either the Model or CGI era the Culldee Fell Railway couldn't be included into the show
I hear you pal.
what is the basis for edward in that footage?
British Railways D20 and Great North of Scotland Railway 49 Gordon Highlander. I would have had the "Large Seagull" K2 from the Furness Railway here but no footage of them exists
I wish that they could build steam tram engines in east Anglia
I understand that the Wisbech and Upwell Tramway historical society is in the process of raising funds to construct an 0-4-0 tram engine to operate in the future
@@WaltsNephew I'd hope that they can make them steam
@@WaltsNephew but the j70s are 0-6-0s
@@Mr._funny2006 True, but I think this society could only afford to make the smaller version of their steam trams
@@WaltsNephew ok
Is Gordon the Big Engine the LNER Class A1 Gresley Pacific or the GNR Class 1 Pacific 1470 ?
He’s actually the prototype for the A1s
Such a shame there is no footage for FR K2s and Tramway J70s :(
I know!! Plenty of photos but no footage
Toby is a Lner Tram
True
Edward's actually a K2
You are right but, remarkably, nobody bothered to capture a Large Seagull on film except for still photography
What about class 40, bear, and d199?
I almost included those but I figured I would stick to the more "well-known" and relatable of the Railway Series engines
0:00 THOMAS😮
The should have on these rebuilt!..
How so?
2:09 the engine in real lite of Gordon is FLIYNG SCOSTMAN
In a way, yes
The c1 class they have name henry
Donald and Douglas❤️
Scottish twins
Hobbits are in Bill and Ben change my mind
Hahahahaha The Rev Awdry had a similar notion when he saw those squat cabs at the quay railway
What engine is duke the lost engine based on I’m trying to find it’s bases online?
Look at the Ffestiniog Railway No.2 "Prince," the so-called "Pony" type 0-4-0 engines for the railway in Wales
@@WaltsNephew thank you so much 😊
No trouble at all! Interesting tidbit: Prince was the first narrow-gauge engine built in Britain
Gordon: haha come on keep on 2:10
"You're-going-to-fast! You're-going-to-fast!"
You weren't kidding when you said your video was gonna be something great
Thank you! Usually when I look for a compilation of Awdry's engines, most people just show photographs. So I took the liberty of garnering footage together of the engines
@@WaltsNephew Nice touch using Thomas music
I thought it would be wrong not to have the engine motifs from the television series. Initially I was just gonna have the engine sounds, but that seemed a bit dull for the situation, so I had the music and some of the whistles overlaid and I enjoy the result
@@WaltsNephew But Sir Topham Hatt will be very cross
Cross?! Whatever for??
Can you please do a remake with the characters you forget like ivo hugh frank jock and bear
noice
Thank you very much!
0:51 edward is based on a fr k2 class
Yes indeed, but since there is no footage of the Large Seagulls I had to use his other partial basis engines
Say smudger has the same basis as rheneas
Because of budget at the time, Smudger utilized Rheneas' model simply painted green (you can see the red livery underneath and in the corners of the model). In the Railway Series, he's more of a WWI American-built trench locomotive that worked in France
I also say MrMeepzMax has the same basis as rheneas cuz
0:39 LE J50!?
the henry in the clip 1:41 real life doesn't look like the real henry
That's because that engine is an Atlantic, an homage to Awdry's original basis for Henry
Fun fact Thomas wasn't actually based on an E2 he would've been based on a J60 Shunter or just any shunter
Right; Awdry made him an E2 retroactively
Woah thats real 👍
VERY real hahaha
LBSCR E2 Class is the Same Size to GWR 1340 Trojan
LYR Class 28 is the Same Size to Furness Railway K2 Class
GNR A1 Class Pacific is the Same Size to LMS Stanier Class 5
Matches made in heaven hahaha
@@WaltsNephew Don’t you Know those type of the Small, Medium Size and Big Engines are the Same Size
Yes indeed, very similar engine sizes for their respective classes
You forgot jinty and pug as well as blue bell, bear, Wilbert ,Barry,niel and ect
It's a very good point you bring up here. It does seem a bit arbitrary that I would include engines from the Arlesdale or Culdee Fell railways and not include those other engines as you mentioned. With the exception Bear, I wanted to include only the characters Rev. Awdry included in his books that were mainstay characters (hence the lack of City of Truro, Flying Scotsman not associated to Gordon), Captain Baxter, and others. But I do have another Thomas-related compilation in the works!
Ah yes the skarloey railway theme
Yes indeed! That segment, and the whole compilation for that matter, was so fun to make with the addition of the television series music paired to the visuals
kinda funny that Stepney is still the same Engine
Right, Rev. Awdry realized he should base his characters on genuine engines rather than inventing his own and finding basis engines that somewhat fit the mold (makes it easier when people would write correspondences to him)
Cool
Edwards video has the wrong engine
Because no footage of the Large Seagulls exists
My childhood never ever ruiend about Tomas and the friend
Yeppers
4:08 That’s not a GNER tram engine
Unfortunately I couldn't find any footage of a J70! So I made do with footage of a metropolitan steam tram in Wigan (which is better than looking at a still photograph if you ask me hahaha)
you do know that Duncan and Rusty have themes, right?
Yes indeed! I thought about including them but it seemed more fitting to have the Skarloey Rwy. engines together with one pice of music connecting them. Especially since SKaroley, Rheneas, Sir Handel, Peter Sam, Duke and Stanley/Smudger don't have themes I really thought I best to just extend the railway theme throughout