Jon Pertwee Hated Daleks
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
- Jon Pertwee talks about his dislike for the Daleks during his time as Doctor Who.
Taken from a 1982 interview with Debbie Fisher on Two Counties Radio (2CR)
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Pertwee: tries to avoid working with Daleks
Also Pertwee: has the second most Dalek stories in Classic Who
Let me guess the first doctor had the most
@@chwthomas09 yup
But no cybermen! The only classic Who never to meet a cyberman.
@@markpostgate2551 The Five Doctors
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Oh yeah, Five Doctors! Fair point. Not during his tenure, in my defence, but it does rectify that anomaly.
Funnily enough, his critique on how artificial they look is part of why they became so popular. Aliens of the time were so frequently people in funny makeup wearing outlandish costume. Daleks were an alien monstrosity that actually seemed *alien*
“All you need to do is walk down the stairs…”
Dalek: “….ELEVATE!!!”
The can Hove move
Of course he hated the Daleks, he was the Doctor!
had he lived only a few more years he could’ve seen Dalek and maybe had changed his mind
Yup! At least he might of been able to see remembrance and see a flying dalek lol 😅
I doubt it. Jon didn't like acting alongside something that couldn't visually emote. Which is why the Draconians were his favourite alien.
He could have just seen Remembrance of the Daleks and possibly change his mind
@@minicle426thats exactly how william hartnell felt
John Pertwee is my second favorite Doctor for this reason alone,he loved playing the Doctor but was also self aware that what he did wasn’t actually real,it’s humorous here in this example,because he’s right.
Daleks: "DALEKS HAVE NO CONCEPT OF ELEGANCE"
CYBERMAN: "This is obvious"
Fancy that, the Doctor doesn't like the Daleks. :P
You should never bite the PLUNGER that feeds you! 🤣
The reason they got so popular was that they were so easy for kids playing to imitate. Kids playing Daleks could be shouty, could be annoyingly repetitive, and could be the baddies, all without getting a stern talking-to by adults.
Loved Pertwee bio that said he got the boot from a theater group because he refused to play a Greek wind lol. My kind of actor..
Imagine Jon’s reaction to the Daleks now?
They got their own magic cards lmao
Poss worse. It all went out of control
Jon won't stand a chance in today's casting, being a white heterosexual male, he unticks every box
@@Dmaster1977 and what do you suppose Peter Capaldi and David Tennant are?
@@LP-tf7cy then follows Peter was that bird, then the black gay fella
3rd Doctor has never face to face with Cybermen in any seasons from 1970 - 74. Not until The Five Doctor (20th Anniversary) he face with 80s Cybermen.
If only he could see them now
I wonder what hed think then
They can fly and the plunger isnt useless, they also actually look like theyre made of metal now
Damn didn’t expect that!
That's how you can tell he was a true Doctor, through and through. He hated the daleks more than the Doctor did.
For me, Daleks are the best thing about Dr Who.
Personally, I think the modern Daleks are a little overused nowadays.
Daleks are the best but Cybermen are the worst. Cybermen are just Daleks but without any of the quirky personality
@@Dreadkid08I personally find Cybermen to be more horrifying in a psychological sense. Sure, genocidal aliens piloting mini tanks is pretty scary, but Cybermen don't generally kill people. They make them become them. They strip away everything that makes a human human and turn them into unfeeling automatons. Existentially, I think that's much worse than simply being killed.
@@Dreadkid08 There is that horror of them being people trapped in machines but the Daleks already did it back in Invasion Of Earth
I guess the hatred the doctor felt for the Daleks was rooted in Pertwee’s hatred, just for a different reason.
Lol. I think he had most of the Dalek stories...
Hartnell outdid him by one story in the Classic era.
@@minicle426 That's true. I suppose you could say they're almost equal if you count 'Frontier in Space' a Dalek story.
@@projectdalekmark Well there is also 'Mission to the Unknown'.
@@minicle426 But mission didn't feature the Doctor so it wasn't a dr who story really.
@Mark Smith It has 'Doctor Who' in the titles.🤷♂️
Tried to avoid working with them
Had literally 3/4 stories with them. Depends on your stance with Frontier being a Dalek story
Nah frontier in space was a cameo setting up planet of the daleks that was the masters episode the daleks only appeared at the ending to set up planet of the daleks
The mum of one of my primary school piers was a room cleaner for John Pertwee.
Did you know in the classic thunderbirds TV show they have a dalek cameo in the episode the man from MI.5
That added Irl vitriol probably added to the genuine disgust on camera
Wonder what he would think about the new modern age DALEKS? 🤔
He would be impressed
@@OscarOSullivan you think so?
Probably facepalm at the Paradigms.
@@trackmastertheman7801 Well the Time War type Daleks are probably the best design
@@OscarOSullivan maybe, but I'm thinking the paradigm and the classic 60s DALEKS, are best in my opinion
I must say, before I started watching Doctor Who I couldn't for the life of me figure out why they were considered scary. They just looked really goofy and didn't seem that dangerous. Then I watched "Dalek" and "Bad Wolf" from nine's run and my god they are incredible villains. Utterly terrifying.
Oh, ao when he said "Daleks" that wasn't just acting. That was actual disdain in his voice lol.
“I AM… SUPERMAAAAANNN”
I'd like to think at the end that was his genuine reaction to finding out he was doing another dalek story
Holy sh**! Wasn't expecting him say such harsh things about the daleks. A huge part of the shows sucess. Way better then some ridiculous monsters we got in the modern era like the weeping angels, the Silence and slitheen. I always roll my eyes when they return.
The weeping angels are the shit tho at least in their first episodes
@@soulknight5330 I was always baffled by their abilities myself.
Like why does a creature that moves at lightning fast speeds require a defense mechanism that basically turns them into a stationary target.🤔
@@minicle426 Any moment they are being observed, they freeze into stone. You can't kill a stone. Can they become targets? Yes, but it would be useless to try to kill them that way.
@@soulknight5330 Please elaborate. I'm genuinely curious.
@@cyan0984 I’m saying that the weeping angels are a genius concept
IMO the daleks are what made doctor who doctor who
Dam such a shame he never got to see Dalek. That changed a lot of peoples perception on them
The 3rd Doctor is my favorite. I love the Daleks though.
I dont understand people who were scared of the Daleks...theres nothing scary about them!
Of course he did! They're Daleks!
A classic case of attracting the very thing you dislike the most… obviously he must’ve loved the Cybermen!! 🤣🤣
I know he hates the Daleks on-screen, but off-screen, wow!
Wow. Awesome.. I'm shocked. I love the dalek creation. Thank you Terry Nation. Dr. Who would not be great without them . Hmm.
his voice
Hartnell seemed to have felt similarly about the Daleks. You’re basically trying to act against a prop that happens to move, rather than a being with expressions.
The thing I don’t understand though is when it came to the 30th (more than 30 years in the tardis ) there’s a snippet where he’s on a morning show and saying how Daleks can now go up stairs … so he must have seen remembrance right in order for him to sound as excited as he did in that broadcast … this must be before the late 80s … poor man sounds drained here
Also made of Wood? Don’t know if you know but they definitely weren’t wood as they were moulded … and him saying that upsets me as his Daleks are by far the most imposing of classic who … not my favs but come Jon you got some iconic Daleks … the gun metal grey… they looked straight up like metal … sure the goon ones in planet are stand ins for the ep and yes we’re wood there but come on man your Daleks we’re so good by design concept… wonder what he would have thought of the imperials as there a pic of him in set for something along side them …
Cameron
The bass in his voice is almost as fierce as a Dalek
I don't blame him. Dalek were stupid back then.
Yes but from a child's perspective, knowing the Daleks couldn't go upstairs was a great comfort. If not for that, we could have been exterminated in our beds.
they're ridiculous, later on they could levitate which did make them kind of terrifying.
Daleks where an enemy everybody hates...except me..long live the Dalek Empire!
He would have liked the modern Daleks imho.
Jon Pertwee was my favorite Doctor. Sad to see he didn't like what to me MADE Doctor Who. The Daleks.
Although I thought the MASTER and BLACK GUARDIAN were cool touches as well.
This opinion is 100% valid... but what depresses me immensely, is *imagine* the response if Jodie said this. Jesus Christ everyone would go mad at her. Even if you ignore they can fly now. People would lose their minds. "This is proof of how she didn't care. Proof they cast a terrible person. Insulting British culture." That's all I can think of when I see these comments *rightfully* supporting pertwee. How many of these same commenters would get mad if Jodie said it
Copum is detected. Jodie has always been terrible.
I'm pretty sure lots and lots of commenters would have been upset in something wasn't 100% to their personal liking back then, it's just that they now have an easier time making their annoying voices heard (or read, at least) thanks to the Internet...
...so did The Doctor.
It’s funny because the cyber men offered a truce for them to share technology and the Daleks turned them down.
Literally, the only difference they would’ve had would be a suit with arms and legs and let’s be honest, a Dalek style cyber man suit would be much cooler than your standard Dalek.
He and his shirt frills were quite silly werent they?
I'm so confused at why people think he'd like modern era daleks. Yes, they can levitate. Other than that they're exactly the same snarky camp pepper pot nazis they always were.
Which I love, to be clear. But I love them for their absurdity, not in spite of it.
I approve.
Yes, as a kid? Daleks scared me. As an adult? No. In fact, I don't see how they could be a successful species.
When did they learn to fly?
I bet he loved working with Aunt Sally, splinters or not😂😂😂
I wonder how cybermen wouldve done
Fancy anything that up staged him upset him.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
It was crap and I really liked it,as a young person.
I weirdly respect this opinion.
My grandma was born in 1960, she still watches doctor who to this day, and can’t believe how it still engages people to this very day whilst 3 generations have gone by, she still has the old shows from the 80s of VHS tape, she first showed me doctor who when I was 5, I wish more kids were exposed to it instead of non-binary content 😂
i like to imagine rtd read your comment personally before writing that "binary - binary - binary - NONBINARY" line. the absurd way in which you switch from nostalgia to bigotry for no reason at all is great.
Davros and the dialect were cool, no dialects no dr who..
I think he shows no imagination when it comes to the Daleks. They are a brilliant design and a genuine existential enemy of the Doctor. Much more so than the Draconians, which Jon Pertwee never got tired of exalting in comparison.
Nah, not even imagination can save them 😂
The Daleks were trash villains, only popular because they looked like giant toys :))
Not true. The Daleks crucially represent the polar opposite of the Doctor, and there is no way that Genesis or the episode Dalek with Chris E are anything other than first rate Dr Who. Their fear, hatred and hysteria is an allegory for the worst things we humans have done to one another. The toys look like THEM, and the reason for their visual (and commercial) popularity is they are also a genius piece of design.@@artfulanders8449
@@artfulanders8449 nooooooo !!!!
Ikr and people talk about Star Wars… lol man
i hate the daleks too i think there jokes cant believe kids where scared of these things.
WHAT ARE YOU SAYING THE DALEKS ARE AMAZING 🤩
The technical part of inclusion of the Daleks bored him. Mind you he’d work all night get to studio on Fridays and have his words written all over the set. Patrick Troughton aggravated him because he was a proper actor. Not a light entertainer.
Hahaha the Daleks are pretty useless 😂😂😂
Daleks don't like you either. Doctor who? Never heard of him. Dalek bread is a common delicacy thoughtout the universal empire.
They look horrible even back then, they should redesign it
Wonder why he didn't get any Cyberman stories
Apparently Terrance Dicks didn't like them much. Which is why he took great pleasure in having them brutally taken out by the Raston Warrior Robot in The Five Doctors.
@@minicle426 It's amazing how so many great luminaries of the show were wrong about the Daleks or Cybermen (Hinchcliffe and Holmes weren't keen either).
Apparently they were meant to show up in Frontier in space. But for whatever reason they got replaced by the Ogrons when the scripting phase began.
Well the daleks used the ogrons before in day of the daleks.
I don't get it, how were they "wrong" by thinking villains who appeared only for their popularity with the public were uninteresting?
The only doctor never to have his own cybermen story. Shame and no i do not count the 5 doctors story
Love Dr who
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