🔥 6G 6010 Roots: Old Timer vs Young Gun
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Today we're throwing down on some 6G 8" schedule 40 pipe. Bob will be showing his preferred method of raking the root in with very little motion. Hjalmar Aguilo, from WeldTube, will be showing his "Christmas Tree" pattern of putting in the root.
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Love it. The humility of both you guys, willing to talk differences as well as similarities. No ego, just the desire to teach. Kudos to you both.
Mark Lowry thanks for the support
Thanks fir the videos live to meet yall trying to figure out where to send my biy for welding school
teachers are always cool....
Weld.com do you know what kind of welding caps the younger guy uses? With the bandanna? Also love the videos, pipelined myself here!
I stated welding for a heavy equipment dealership when I was 21 years old, welded and machinist for several job shops where you fixed anything that walked in the door, a few years with med. to light manufacturing company in engineering, one heavy fabrication shop as well as my shop at home. I'm now 64, still working, when someone asks what I do I tell them the truth " I'm learning how to weld. " And that's why I'm watching this because no matter your experience level or your smarts the real detail information that only one welder can tell another is found here. For you younger guys just starting out and you old hands that think you know it all--this is the place to be. A lifetime is not long enough to learn all you really need to know.
Lee Barnhart Abso-bloody-exactly.
They always say the day you stop learning is the day you quit. Welding for me has ALWAYS been a learning process. Everyday is different, and thats why I love it
@@CLDiesel02 That's true, at least for me. Quit learning my profession after 19 years... I've just got sick of it. I'm gonna learn to weld now!
cool!
Well said
My grandfather started welding in the 1930s and he passed down some of his techniques with me. He would never whip a root in a pipe regardless if it was uphill or down hill. When I went to welding school they told me I couldn’t drag a root in pipe uphill until I did it. Bob thank you for showing people the right way might not only be one way.
I heard that it depends on the gap of the open root; whether you need to whip or not
Down hill you can get away with a wide gap but uphill it needs to be pretty tight.
@@ThereIsFinallyGoodVeganChoices if I can't see my puddle or keyhole, I always whip. But most of the time, I will drag unless my keyhole gets too big
@@joshpittman6021 you can xray weld a 3/16 gap if you work it right. That amp knob can go way down you know.
I got schooled on 6010 roots after school too
Trip to see old dude using auto hood and young dude using flip style.
They're both auto hoods
@Flame James pipeline based leather welding hood
Flame James just because it’s a flip up style hood doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a auto change lens in it which he clearly does from the purple tint it had to it. Both are using auto changers.
Flame James force of habit I assume. Go to 14:40, he has his hood up and his lense up and you can see through the back of it and clearly see the background through the lense. Also pay attention to the front of his lense, it has 5 or 6 of the solar photo eyes on the top right corner. Trust me, it’s an auto changer. The old guy is strictly a shop welder/instructor and clearly sponsored by ESAB. The youngster is wearing a Outlaw Leather hood, which is the most common hood used in the Houston plant industry, but nevertheless both have auto change lenses
He has an auto dark in that hood
I'm just going to say this:
As an industrial super nerd, I can watch both of you guys weld and talk about welding all day long. Any student is lucky to have either of you guys as a teacher.
Thank you both!
Not only are you gentlemen great welders,but true tradesmen!! There is no ego,no competition and no insecurities,just consistent learning and building on eachothers techniques and knowledge. I applaud you two,you are true gentlemen and great examples for anyone watching. Thank you for the vid
I've watched these two separately, but together its a trip! Its like two dudes sitting in a bar talking about their... "techniques" ... almost like a father and son thing..
it is
I love their energy honestly. They have their individual preferences, but it's amazing to see the sheer love for the craft
I got moved by your dynamic, mutual restpect and awesome way of explaining what you do and your differences in method. This video is so full of love for your work, eachother and your viewers. I'm in awe. ❤️🙌💪⛓️
For a minute I was trying to put my helmet on when he started welding Haha.
Same. I dipped my head when they started welding lol
Lol i still close my eyes on the first arc strike
Fuckin same 🤦🏽🤣
LOL. Thats great.
Yup
Old school and new school. Both awesome welders. Much respect and thanks for great tutorial videos. Really helps !!!
He's a very respectful young dude. That goes a long way when you're trying to dominate a "world" dominated by older dudes.
Wish I would've understood that a little better when I was hits age.
So true if you show the old guys respect they'll show you tricks and tips it took them years to figure out.
@@noahb4225 Yes Sir!
Respect and the will and motivation to learn as much as possible. Also 5 to 7 years later when fngs f$#%ing new guys with smart ass attitudes start giving lip service make sure to have there back.
Excellent ...Learned something new today. I learned whip and pause 28 years ago at Hobart. I'm one of the old guys and still welding fulltime. Great video
jackl mcgowan2 lol I’m learning whip and pause there now but this whole dragging thing looks a lot better
jackl mcgowan2 wow my last name is McGowan also where you from?
as a welding instructor I love watching you guys in order to try new things o i can show my students new and different ways to weld in order to get the same results! thank you
Love the video! My father is a retired pipe welder and when I was younger I used to see him lay that root like hjamar.I personally like both styles.Keep up the good work Augie
Great video with the demonstration of 2 types of root passes !!! Now grind them down and put the HOT PASS and see the difference !!!
I've watched both of y'alls videos before and I love the fact you guys got together to do a video. Your vids have helped me get into welding pipe fence with rusty ol drill stem pipe and man it's a chore thanks alot
Really enjoying watching both of your channels keep up the great videos. I’m in week 2 of Welding class at my local college and these videos are helping so much with my SMAW courses. Thx again
When I learned 6010 was taught to whip ,honestly never tried dragging it in this way looks great will have to try this soon.. wish i had CZcams when i learned to weld thanks for the videos guys
Miss these guys. Knowledgeable, down to earth, and helpful to all.
As always, you two teach great together!! It's important to remind or teach people that there are different ways to get it done...
But the basics are all the same!
I love the "one hand" comment Bob... I've always run stick with one hand, but some positions I've had to get in to, to reach... I have used both. Especially the real long distance stuff, when I've actually stuck two sticks together to reach...can't be shaking!!!
Mig,, almost always brace... But do one hand quite a bit too...
Everyone has their own way!
Love your videos, as always!!
Nice, guys, fun to watch the different techniques by guys who know the drill. Love to watch a good teacher.
Hey guys... just starting my endeavor .. really green.. got the basic idea of stick welding.. I’m a full time single daddy to my 9yr old princess.. also a disabled veteran.. so I can only dedicate about a hr to a hr1/2 to welding.. but you guys have taught me so much in a very little time! So I’m gonna keep at it.. and listen to you guys! Keep giving myself and others simple competent education! Thanks!!
Thank you for your service. If you need anything, let us know. We'll surely try and help.
You two together put a smile on my face 😀 Excellent collab guys.Keep it up!!!Love it.
Clean shots. I did like this video very much. Nice to see this up and running young fellow!
Good team effort guys!:)
When I was thought I was told to "scoop".instructor said almost like you're scooping the metal...feel the resistance and push. Always worked for me
One of my favourite videos guys thank you! I taught welding for years and you guys really are great!
Thank you for the video. It's bitter sweet at the end, on one hand I can't wait to try what I learned and the other I want to keep watching the next video.
Bob, you're awesome. I really enjoy watching your videos and how well you teach and explain.
i love seein the contrast of styles coming together and workin beautifully. these guys have great chemistry, very enjoyable to watch work🤙🤙
I enjoyed this video and seeing people with different techniques talking about their trade. I've got an everlast welder at home and I really liked watching these videos.
This two guy is a legend in welding thanks bro. I learned a different techniques in welding keep it up god bless u both.
Great video guys two of favorite welders/instructors
As an educator, I love this. Professionals collaboratively working and trading ideas.
Always appreciate excellent lessons from this Duo (Old and Young), your supporter from 🇿🇦
I learned to weld from an old school guy starting at 12 years old. I got to the point of welding mild steel and stainless steel bases together for industrial systems that sit on the rooftops of commercial buildings. I was certified and also welded lifting lugs that the helicopters use to hoist these systems in the air. I had a different technique than my teacher and the students I helped train, but it was cool because we got to the same place. I taught some things, and always learned some things. How can people give this a thumbs down? The old guy is the master, and the young guy is future. Any time the two can collaborate, it benefits them both and we get to watch. You can't beat that with a stick! Great video guys!
I have found that my rod angle does not matter, as long as I control the puddle and make it go where I want to. been doing it 45 years.
Facts thank you... PUDDLE CONTROL
Thank you guys for this video is really good to see you working together
I like the dude, very respectful. We need more welders like that.
It is cool that you respect each other's techniques and adapt them to your own to get better and, sometimes, make life easier.
I have wanted to learn how to weld since I was a teenager, after watching Bob and Co I am about to take the plunge.
Howd it go
I've always thought it would be very interesting for you guys to discuss the different techniques and different processes used in certain regions of the U.S. For example, the differences of welding from up north/midwest states and the southern/gulf coast states. It's always interesting to hear the ways of construction hands from different parts of the country. Awesome video!
Bob way is easier on the eyes less emotions to look at both techniques it’s good to know thanks guys👍🏾
thank you very much guys.i have learned lots of things from you & I took my AWS certificate as well
My dad was a welder for 60 plus years. He never had much use for 6010. His always go to rod for root pass was 7010. Very few welders even know about 7010. It’s a fantastic rod
Influencing the young blood!! Smell like . . Love it!
You guys are awesome together. Thank you for sharing.
Anyone else notice they said "brother" like every other sentence??? 😂😂
ha ha hell yea borther!
Thats what you say to a brother...
This is Texas talk.
@@panchovilla5767 Texas is for hulk Hogan wannabes, and armadillo lovers.
They may have been kidding, but more than once I've heard them say they are brothers-in-law.
I think our welding instructor has this same exact relationship with my classmates and myself.... He is kooI as a glass of ice tea and tougher than a can of Lincoln 5+++++ E6010's💯💯💯 we salute you Mr. Williams
These two guys made the best videos together and by themselves good direction wish they were still making them
always found more comfy to drag just a little. Uphill I always felt it burned out the keyhole a little to quick, cause it is preheating then blowing out, a very slight backhand was comfy and made sure to join the two quite well.
Bob is like the Hank Hill of welding he's got to be one of the coolest guys out there keep 👆 the great work
I learned from a old oil rig turned teacher welder back in the mid eighties,had a lot of respect for him he was a master, I remember practicing 6g root low hydrogen , he would come over to give his opinion of your efforts when you’d finished ,I’d be thinking he can’t fail this , he just said good now do it again it might be a fluke ! He kept you practicing so every time was good, 😉🇬🇧
Iv been welding for 19 years and last week just Learned dragging 6010 up hill on the root man I wished I learned that when I first started!!
7:42 "daaaaaang not bad for an old guy" 😂 love him
Love your vids Bob.cut my teeth on your tricks n tips.now I ll binge watch young aguilo an learn some more.cheers guys
Mannn I miss these guys 😭 they always had a lot of knowledge and just kept the shit funny and interesting
Loving these videos my 2 favorite Welding channels 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
Love to see the different methods and the both get you there , some instructor are like no you must do it like this
Awesome video! I learned to weld from Hjalmar he’s a bad man! So are you Bob!
" Give me 5 ....a little more.....hold it. " I've heard those words thousands of times in my welding days. Retired from 40 years of it but still appreciate quality weldors. Nice job fellas .......! ColdBear.
best shots in the vid were the ones of both dudes watching the arc, one welding. genuine love for the craft right there bois, after how many years
Love it men!!! You guys work great together! Laying pipe baby
Bob. in your spare time do you sell Propane and Propane accessories?
Paul Loughran ....Nothing has gone right today and you made me laugh, thank you.
Lol. I do.
🤣
Hahahahaha that was funny lol
OK I'm the dumb guy here. I don't get the joke. :/
Love this interaction. I been welding for twenty five years and I weave or v on my roots that blow and go drag is something else. My hand speed is just not feeling it . Fast and clean root nice work guys.
a very good instructor and teacher both of you 😍😍😍
I like this channel a lot. Learning made easy! 👌🏼
I'm a Alberta B welder and l always like 5p+ 6010 1/8 uphill and make little circle motion and drag.Keep the fire in the pipe and no fire outside.Enjoyed the guys with a good video
REG MAIR.
As in life...there are multiple ways to the same result. Great job.
thank you both very help me to study and learn more about the types of welding.
greetings welder indonesia 👍
I like watching both of all video. I'm still learning I would love to get all to grade my welds just to know what I can improve on.
He definitely has a steady hand ! Thankyou for sharing good stuff 👍
Retired,passed my first 6g in 72,I acted like I won a green jacket,from that day forward I was dedicated not to fail a test.Only test I didn't pass was Vandenberg Air Base,space shuttle project,sch 80 chrome,only root,64th inch start and stop,you had to stop atleast three times.This was Bechtel Corp.It was all about them being paid for testing,did my best preheat to 425 root ever.LOVE the sound,both very good,I always did inline stitch so I didn't lose keyhole to the wall when it got hot.I loved it,did it all.Kept my last stamps.
I took several classes welding at a tech school but I didn't have nearly as good of teachers as you guys seem to be, all I got was turn amps it up turn it down hold your rod closer pull it back some I kind of just got discouraged. I got pretty good at flat stick welding I passed my bend test for flat and horizontal but then I just kind of got burnt out no pun intended but watching you guys got my itching again I didn't realize how much I misses it and I am not one to let something conquer me so I really want to get better.
Never seen either of these done before it’s very cool, always done a whip and pause
Awsome collaboration, of solid techniques! I enjoyed watching! Would be proud to weld beside either of you!
The christmas tree pattern reminds me of what ive always called a whip and pause technigue. Im more or a fan of a steady stringer beads but whatever gets the job done with a sound weld. Nice demonstartion
Bob you're a great teacher
That helmet is dope, my buddy has one and it has a blue shade in it, definitely one of the best helmets on the market
This helped me pass my 6g ASME section IX sch 160 2".
I know I’m 5 years late, but hopefully you’ll see this. Did you drag or whip the root in your test? I’ve never had to 6010 a root into a monster coupon, and have always been able to tig root and hot, then 7018 out. All I’ve ever really done is drag the root in with 6010, and am wondering if dragging it in works well on 2” monster coupons?
@@peytonmiller6900 drag. I only whip when going uphill.
Been welding for 42 years. Teaching and testing welders now is South Houston. I can agree with what they say and do. There are many different techniques which is very important to learn. I teach my students. Its all about fit, rod angle, heat, arc length depth and travel speed. I teach them to see the puddle. Its like a major league baseball hitter, if you can't see the ball you are not going to hit the ball, see the ball. The puddle tells us what to do. I teach them to not only see the puddle but to hear it and feel it. It is very important to practice welding bad fits within code because mostly when working existing you can get bad fits. You can with a lazy fitter also. You can hear their root going in. it has a distinct sound when it is penetrating and a distinct sound on which polarity it is on. These guys explain what they are doing in a way I really like. Good job guys!!!!
I am retired, but was a welder most of my life ,and welded pipe for 25 years. I had several techniques on the 6010 root pass, the size of the pipe and the size of the gap determined which one I used.
Boys going to town on it,very nice arc shots :)
Great video Bob and Omar, great teaching.
I’ve been welding for 27 years and taught welding for 13. I liked both of your stiles, though different from mine. I prefer to use the whip and pause technique and I always make an 1/8” land, 1/8” gap and 88 amps. All 8’s easy for student to remember. On a 6G I have my arc slightly outrunning my hand and slightly pointed towards the top bevel. I also keep my rod buried, always remember for every 1/8” your rod is off the base metal your machine increase 10 amps.
Jeff Smith same opinion here bro whip n pause best work for me!
Keep the collaboration coming 🤓
You need to collaborate with Jody Collier.
Jodie has nothing on these 2
Love it! Nice tutorial guys!
The control in material deposition is impressive. Congratulations.
Thank you guys
Awesome video thanks looking forward to seeing more
Great video guys everyone can learn and get something out of this. As for which technique is best, both are because they both do what's required. And sometimes you have to use both styles during a weld because sometimes it has been someone else tacking the joint together and it may not be how you like it, so you use the style to work with the joint you have been given. Great to learn the Christmas tree to learn all about rod & key hole control but also great to crank it up and rake it in there. What both you guys showed is consistent arc length with your respective methods. loved the manner in which you discussed the welding.
I can watch welding videos 24/7/365. Always learn something. Love it - I'm gonna burn some rods....
Yeah man this is what I'm talking about. I love people who want to learn from each other. I've got a couple of everlast welders but I'm purely a hobbyist but want to get better man.
It made me laugh when you said 'two ways to get to the same place'. It took me back to college with two welding tutors. One would check you welding and say, "Why are you doing it that way?"
Answer, because Dougie showed me like that.
"No, do it this way..."
Then Dougie would check and ask the same thing.
Answer, because Derek showed me that way.
That was normal life throughout my course :)
But it was good because some things i couldn't 'get' one way but could the other. Maybe that's why they employed them both???
It’s good to see both are easy going
The way I was taught was that your 6010 root bead better look as good as it would on a flat piece of metal, when I was in school (my instructor and Jody from welding tricks and tips worked together for 7 years back in the day) we had to make it were you couldn’t even tell where your tie ins were, I always ran a 1/8in gap and land at 75 amps then I just whip upwards. I got my certifications when I was 17 year old Junior. Now I don’t get to do all that fun welding since I’m an Union Ironworker
Lol dirt dobber welds 🤣
Clifton Williams Ironworker weld... god knows I did
That was cool!
One thing i've noticed trying out bob's root method will work on (some) machines at least some inverters that "won't run 6010" because you cannot long arc with those machines with 6010 it will just go out they do not have enough voltage to long arc a 6010 rod but if your jammed in there it will run because you do not need as much voltage
Look you guys videos for inspiration I’m a senior looking to join the welding trade soon thanks for these video!