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How to Correctly Burn your Child - Hero Academia
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2017
- Combine 1 part Hero Academia And 1 part Last Airbender and you have a fully scarred face, congrats.
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Hero Aca OST: Battle Training
Hero Aca OST: Rebellious Youth
Hero Aca OST: Bright and Cheerful
Hero Aca OST: You Say Run
My First Girlfriend turned into the Moon.
That's rough buddy.
Lol
Lmao
Even my mom laughs at that joke now!
Such a classic
meanwhile grey from fairy tale watched as his master turned into a giant wall of ice and then a few years later watches as his master melted all because he initiated a fight with a demon
Todoroki’s character arc: Hot flash
Zuko’s character arc: Slow burn
HOT!!!
You right!
i was going to say that, Zuko's character ark is like a Candle, while Todoroki's character ark is like a Wildfire. at least, that's my way of wording it.
@@emilygratz9203 but wildfires burn for a long time
Gonna have to disagree.
The fact that it was Iroh explaining Zuko's backstory fit a whole lot better. It wouldn't make sense for Zuko to just randomly open up to people. But because it was Iroh, someone that everyone respects, this allowed for *some* change.
His development being more spread out is what helped things feel more natural. He later does open up to Aang (sadly the kid was unconscious) and Katara, which helped the heroes see him in a different light. But it had to happen naturally. I really don't see why Shouto would've opened up to Deku when he did. They don't know eachother that well and his stoicism and general persona would indicate he doesn't need/want sympathy from others.
That's why it was so weird when Neji started telling his backstory for Naruto and everyone to hear during their fight.
Also, it feels more impactful to have another character sympathize with the tragic antagonist (of book 1 that is) because Zuko doesn't seem like a pathetic manic villain who whines about his tragic backstory.
Iroh is the guy who puts in a good word for Zuko in front of us, the audience, and through that we feel much more like Zuko has enough dignity to carry something where people who love him suffer just seeing him (or rather *the one person who loves him)
I love Zuko more than any other character out there, after all this years still.
This great character guided me through my difficult growing up, he provoced my thought about what really matters, and i was extremely obsessed with destiny at the time.
Not forgetting Iroh though. But as a very emo teenager i naturally identified with Zuko.
Zuko is best.
to be fair to my hero, sometimes I tell random people about my problems and then lie awake at 3am thinking about my life's choices lmao. But I agree, there are very few things that I think my hero did better than ATLA and character development is not one of them. Like if you write a redemption arc better than Zuko's you are actually a god.
@@lillianb1516 but retelling it yourself make it less impactful
@@lillianb1516 I think one thing is to remember is that Todorokis arc is not a redemption arc. He was never the main villain we were suppposed to dislike. He was part of the good guys, Zuko wasn't. In "The Storm" we get insight and a reason to look at Zuko as more than just a villain. Hell the the crew is a vital part of that episode to our understanding of Zuko. Considering the reason he got banished in the first place is cause he spoke up to save a bunch of new recruits that was gonna be sacrificed in battle.
His care for others (that he was probably told was benath him and it's disgraceful that he did care) is what got him banished, and after all this time you, the audience, get to see, at the end of the episode where he chooses the crew over chasing the avatar, that that care is still not lost. I think its a vital part for the audience to see and it was all masterfully put into the episode "The Storm".
Honestly i do not get why people are comapring Todoroki and Zuko, Beyond their fire powers and burn marks i wouldn't say they have that much in common. Todoroki hates his dad and wants to pove a point which is "i am not my dad, i hate that im even slightly connected to him" while the only thing Zuko can think of is how to prove himselft to his dad. Thats like the complete oposite of Todoroki, and it sets up to completly different character arcs, which i think are incomparable to each other.
Last thing is i don't think trying to argue that one exposition style is better than the other. Preference is one thing but saying that becasue Zuko had slower development with more flashbacks it means BnA did it better is not a fair argument imo. Then trying to support that point by comparing Zuko and Todoroki, two charcter with almost oposite character arcs.. it just doesn't work that well.. imo at least.
Zuko was more of a slow burn
Exactly! Theres no point to compare, slow burn always has more effect.
I don't know if I should say about that joke or how that statement is true
But man that was good
That was actually amazing
420 likes
Nice
SOMEONE RUINED IT
YES THATS THE PERFECT WAY TO EXPLAIN THIS
Zuko: Multiple seasons of amazing character development
Todoroki: "Do my best? Hell yeah guy i just met!!"
LITERALLY
i hate you now lol
Deku: IT'S YOUR POWER!
Todoroki: ... you right
It be like that sometimes
Todoroki thought he could win without utilizing his full potential, Deku was fighting him to a standstill to prove him wrong, meaning if he wanted to actually achieve his goals he would have to go all out (which he did)
I love Shouto Todoroki to pieces, he's like my second favorite character in BNHA, I love him as much as the next BNHA fan. But I seriously get offended when people say that he's better than Zuko, because honestly, no matter how lovable of a character Shouto is, he doesn't hold a candle to the emotional depth/character development that the viewers get to see in Zuko. There's something about the character of Zuko that seems more relatable, more humane, makes him seem cooler by comparison, imo. Idk. Love them both.
i love Todoroki but Zuko, oh, he's on a WHOLE another level!
Well not everyone is meant to like the same thing. It all comes down to preference. Also shoto is still relatively new so his development is done compared to Zuko
#zukoftw
I've never watched Avatar (is that the name?) So I prefer shoto, but Zuko might be a better character? He seems cool but again, I've never watched the show XD
@@kitty-ob2ri you should watch it! it's a really good show! :D
Zuko is a complex masterpiece. He's the original Todoroki Shouto, man.
Do u mean todoroki is a betec zuko
TRUEE f he’s a d-tec zuko
That’s rough buddy.
TRUEE f do u mean todoroki is walmart version of zuko
Shoto is boring
from desperately capturing the avatar to bring back his *h o n o r* to being life long friends with him,, zuko was the best character i could ask for. he was dynamic and u can really relate to him. i love todoroki but zuko, man. he just,,,up _there_ and no other character can touch him.
Totally agree. Underrated
3:45 During this whole flashback, it's shown that Todoroki's mother was suffering from some kind of mental illness. She was calling her mother with a want to get out of that house, presumably so she wouldn't potentially hurt her children. She also made comment on how the kids are looking "more and more like him." Endeavour had abused her. In the moment when she poured boiling water on Shoto, she didn't see her son, but rather her abuser.
Yeah at the time, Shouto's mother could only see his fire half through the doorway.
Man this subtly in bnha is so great......
Shotou's mother wasn't suffering from a mental illness. She was suffering from the abuse, and so stressed/scared that even her son's left side terrified her.
That's why Endeavor is only the second among the heroes. It's because his actions and underlying selfish character show through to the public, while All Might's genuinely good/helpful/friendly character shine through brighter.
Shotou's mother was in an arranged, forced marriage. There are some VERY horrible implications there, and I think one of the future events will be Shotou calling out Endeavor, either in public, or in private, and forcing Endeavor to retire.
Herman Cillo You explained that a lot better than I did.
Claire Corin no shit Sherlock did you also know water is wet?
That's a hell of a title.
Glad it has that impression. But the question is, does that translate to clicks.
Time will tell.
With you it almost inevitably does, lol, you're killer at this.
Yeah I kinda am huh? since the video I said that i'd start dropping some ethics, i've had 3 videos over 100k views, so my current theory seems to be correct.
But I'm not sure if it's necessarily going to work for the this one, or if the extremeness of it will be perceived as a joke (which it is mind you) and it'll get less clicks because its not really a TRUE extreme statement.
HeroAca is so powerful right now (I've had two about it go over 100K), so I'd bet on you being golden here.
A *hell* of a title
Avatar still handled it better thooooouuuugh. I was way more emotionally invested in Zuko then I ever was in Todoroki.
Excelsior because he can do what he wants
They are both baby tho
- Remember that one cool character?
- Which character?
- You know, the teenager who was burnt on his left eye by his parent and has an abusive father and also possesses fire powers?
- Which character?
Boku no hero academia Fan *ship names intensifies*
The best one
The last Airbender is a masterpiece tho
Yes it is💜🖤
It really is
Gwen Kearney nope the story ages beautifully watch it with an open mind
@iiYonko Bruh ur 100% right, dunno why people hype this sh*t up, it's just childish hot trash that every non anime fan thought was God tier
@Gwen Kearney
Why? Give me valid points for your argument, not just "Shows for kids=Bad".
i still can't get over the title
I'm surprised the algorithm didn't strike this
I think zukos burn just makes more sense than Todorokis. Like his mom just went a bit crazy and was like "man, half of my son sure looks like that mean guy, so i guess ill dump so boiling water on it", while zukos was set up well and made sense while also introducing the audience to the ideals of ozai. Not to mention further building the world. Idk i just think its better written than "she went crazy"
My mom went at me with a knife once, so I don’t think the idea is too far fetched lol
Actually, I think Todoroki's case has a lot more interesting and complex subtext. Writing it off as his mom just "going crazy" is overlooking the deeper implications.
See, Ozai just decided to burn half of Zuko's face off because he was huge bastard who only respects strength and thinks love is a weakness, etc. It's relatively simple and boils down to Ozai being a supremely shitty father and Zuko struggling to accept that he's wasting his time and hurting himself trying to get Ozai's approval.
With Todoroki, the implication is that his mom went nuts because half of him kept reminding her of Endeavor (which prevented her from completely loving her son even though he was innocent of his father's actions) and she was under such mental strain from Endeavor's abuse that she eventually snapped and tried to destroy the Endeavor part of Shoto. Despite his age at the time, Shoto seems to have understood this perfectly, which is why he specifically blames his father for the whole event.
Now think about that for a moment. This also implies that he sorta agrees with his mom regarding his left side: Shoto doesn't just hate Endeavor for being a shitty dad, he also hates the part of himself that is the same as Endeavor, to the point where he won't even blame his mom for maiming him. Like: "Yeah, I totally get why she did that. Sometimes I kinda want to destroy the left half of my face as well. It's a natural reaction when you have to put up with my dad every day."
This probably a big part of the reason Shoto refused to use his left side: It wasn't _just_ to spite his dad, he actually couldn't stand being half Endeavor, meaning he was trying to reject part of himself.
That makes him quite a bit more messed up in the head than Zuko, who simply wanted his abusive father to accept him. To complete his arc, Shoto has to accept the part of himself that is the same as his awful dad, and that's harder for him to deal with because it's literally a part of his genome and something he is reminded of whenever he looks into a mirror.
In this sense, Shoto's complex is basically an upgrade (downgrade?) to Zuko's. It's almost as if Hirikoshi looked at Zuko and was like: "How can I do this, except _worse?"_
And none of that is overtly stated, just heavily implied: The reader/viewer is mostly left to infer it from the context. It's not even clear if Shoto himself realizes just how much his own self-loathing plays into it.
@@RelativelyBest ok
@Anna Lialine why would you need more info
@@xXJunnaXx I dont think the problem is that it's not realistic, it just seems lazy
Todoroki is a great character and all, but I feel like Zuko Is Way Better Of A Character. I like his burn more too:
Agreed. Underrated comment
*Thinks of all my beautiful burned babies.*
_Zuko_
_Todoroki_
_Hakuryuu_
*A single tear falls from my eye*
How did Hakuryuu get his burn again?
There was like a fire at his house and it burned his face.
zombu His mother burned down his house, killing his father, and older brother. And in the fire he got burned uo
bitches be crazy
Voytek word
I never thought about tsu being pre lubed, or Mina being like a car battery, or endeavors fore pubes... thank you for that imagery
I didn't get that car battery quip... maybe I just don't know cars as well a I think...
battery acid fam
Insomniac Raccoon O, I'm an idiot, I forgot Mina's... "slime" can also melt things
Season 3 will give us D.The Crazy Bae Option.
never thought about Tsu being prelubed either. But the things she could do with that tongue. Also why is this discussion reminding me of Mallrats?
okay okay lemme get this straight
Zuko had to fight and was burned by his father because he spoke out of terms about a war plan that would result in the death of many fire nation soldiers
Had his mother disappear in the middle of the night only to find out 6(give or take) years later that it was because he would have DIED otherwise
Betrayed his only true father figure because his crazy sister tricked him into a false sense of safety and a BS promise that he would have his honor restored by the tyrant that ripped it away in the first place
was told by many that his sister was "born lucky" and he was "lucky to be born"
had the greatest redemption arc I've ever seen
had the most badass "fuck you, dad" moment in 'the day of black sun'
After joining the GAANG, turned into the sassy, awkward king we know and love
IS THE ORIGINAL BURNT LEFT EYE, FIRE WEILDING, DAD ISSUED BASKET CASE
PLUS SOME
AND YOU STILL WANNA TELL ME SHOTO IS BETTER????
I LOVE HIM BUT THIS AINT IT, CHEIF
Sorry, but I've gotta disagree
@Shonksu big disagree, also callimg stuff trash is small dick energy.
I have to agree with you on this one. Zuko over Todoroki.
Zuko is literally the very best
Abbacchiio • we can’t compare yet. Avatar was full fleshed out and has been completed while My Hero is still going strong. We don’t know what Shouto will do in his future or who he will become or how closely the show will follow the manga. Once My Hero is over then we can compare
I think we forgwt that the two MAIN figures in Avatar is Aang and Zuko and not Aang and any of his other friends. We see Zuko develop and change and we see the desperate rage filled outcast turn into a principled man who changed as time grew under the care of Iroh. Aang and Zuko are the same but slightly different. Of course they are presented as contrasts but Zuko and Aang are both taught how to be at peace and taught balance. Aang is taught to balance the elements while Zuko is taught to balance himself. Streamlining something doesn't make it better or worse. Only different, Zuko was not a plot device, but a character.
hah, i never thought of that o.o, thanks xD
I can actually imagine Todoroki saying "That's rough buddy". That's how much they seem alike.
the scar is NOT on the wrong side
naomi obi *fabulously flips hair*
Shoto got it right
naomi obi
It just keeps blowing up in my face, like everything *ALWAYS DOES*
naomi obi XD
NO but in the thumbnail is sides are inverted from the real one
Lol. You simply can't compare Shouto and Zuko-the gap is too big. Zuko's story is 10x painfully more impactful than Shouto's it's not even funny. I love Shouto to death but he doesn't compare to the complexity of Zuko's character and how endearing he becomes to the audience.
I'm sorry but Shouto's story seems just like a way to make the main character "shine" and to show that he would save anyone at all costs. It seems dry tbh. Zuko, on the other hand, shows a person experiencing so many events in his life that eventually shapes him up to become the best person he is. I'm disappointed that so many people say that Shouto is on par with Zuko just because BNHA is so mainstream, so "in". They have to watch Avatar first before saying that.
Blue Lightning zuko feels so much more real and humanized as a character too. Todoroki feels like this God-child that has little limit. Zuko, although very pitent in combat, is a perfectly incapable character and couldnt even beat his sister. Hea much more relatable, and more well written. I do feel like were being unfair to My hero, because cmon, comparing almost anything to avatar makes the contrary look garbage. MHA is a great show.
@@gaymer2316 He's stop being edgy after the tournament, and his relationship in the manga is pretty humane so dont judge it alone based on the anime
@@ashermack2543 yeah, you can't compare many shows with Avatar.
But mainly A:TLA if i may say so.
That's a really good point. Shoto is a good character but most of his character arc is to show why the main character is great and to show the main character is having great relationships and is an all around great guy helping people with their scars with motivational phrases.
Zuko on the other hand lived his life and grew from it, and his coming into contact with the main character was a consequence of his growth rather than his growth being purely because of the main character being a part time therapist.
@@gaymer2316 Shoto-discount Sasuke
Leaves on the vine
falling so slow
Like fragile tiny shells
drifting in the foam
Little soldier boy
Come marching home
Brave soldier boy
Come marching home
Xylant Exodus don't make me cry
"Happy birthday, my son. If only I could have helped you."
ono
Great SpongeBob reference! That episode with Gary really made me tear up :C
Guys stop it :((
Can you please make a "Frogs Come Pre Lubed" t-shirt? You'd be doing everyone a favor.
I second this decision
Uhhh.....I don't think my high school would let me wear that.
I'll put it on the list with "fuck you, it's a creative medium"
I third this decision!
EULA 2015 how can you lewd the frog when the frog is already lewd
*"Pubes of fire"*
I fell into burning pubes of fire...
Roasted nuts
what of todoroki's pubes, are they half and half or?
So when endeavour takes a shit does it like incinerate his log?
The exposition where todoroki tells deku about his past is so forced its the only time the show ever yanked me out of my immersion it was horribly framed. Like there was no line of logic for them to have that conversation todoroki just spills his guts to deku unprompted for literally no reason I hated that moment
There was a reason though.... deku reminded shoto of allmight, and he wondered if he was also the result of a quirk marriage. He then explains why he asked because it appeared to come out of nowhere, and goes into full length on how his father wants him to use his fire side, but he wants to win without it to spite him, and he explains why.
That wasn’t forced at all....
And I like how again it does nothing with the subversion that it was his mother that burned him. She might as well have just bumped into him and then wondered if it were an accident or on purpose and THAT'S what causes her meltdown.
Zuko is hands down a better character. Shoto is a kid with daddy issues. Once you remove his father from the equation then he’s another normal boy. Even if you remove Zuko’s dad out of the picture, he will still be complex because of his connection to both the fire lord and avatar. He’s had good and evil playing tug of war in his mind for years. He admits at the ember island that he’s no longer mad at his dad, but at himself. Zuko has multiple layers to him; whereas Shoto is more of a flat character. I still love the socially awkward candy cane, but he is definitely not on the same level as Zuko
I've never thought about Endeavors pubic hair before watching this video. Why, Uniqueman? Why?
PTp1ranha now it's never gonna leave ur mind ... He's evil!
PTp1ranha same like the heck never thought about it so like
PTp1ranha Endeavor super move!!!! FLAMIIIIIING PUUUUUUUBIIIIIIIC HAAAAAAIIIIIRRRR
PTp1ranha in the manga it says he can have it as fire or not, but he likes it on fire because it's flashy
Same I was so focused until that point and I lost it.
I actually think the slow build is more effective than a few well-placed, streamlined flashbacks. Avatar was masterful at balancing interconnected subplots and revealing new character information at precisely the right time in relation to their character development. ...Not to say that Hero Aca did it poorly, though. It did do a good job of making Todoroki very likable very quickly.
Aurablasé Well said. I agree.
Depends on how you wanna build a character, Zuko was slowly but surely built from villain to hero, Todoroki was supposed to be a lost soul that the hero saves, thus they wanted to resolve his character arc faster
Zuko: my dad burned my eye
Todoroki: my mother burned my eye with tea
*Uncle Iroh Left the chat*
OMG U DID NOT 😂
It was boiling water, not tea.
Lol
I'm done😂🤣👏👏
@@sarveshnathan7559 it's a joke
It's probably here somewhere, but apparently not within the first... 30 comments... and I'm too lazy to keep looking. I don't come CZcams to read the comments so I'll restate what is probably already here.
ZUKO IS A VILLAIN!!! Or at least he was for MORE THAN TWO-THIRDS OF THE SHOW!! Zuko has more flashbacks because he's the proud owner of "The Best Redemption Arc in the History of EVER" award. On top of that Zuko is actually a main character, while Shoto is not.
Shoto's got a metric shit-ton of character development that happens in the Tourney Arc and the Stain Arc... but that's kinda it for a long ass time. I mean he's memorable in the Kidnapping Arc, but he's not central to it. I guess you could say the License Arc has him coming to a memorable point, which I won't argue, but he's kinda there to have issues to flesh out SOMEONE ELSE.
Zuko, on the other hand, is a developed character by episode two. We know EXACTLY what he wants, his main reason for wanting it, and how much he's got going for/against him at any given time. THIS BOY HAS A EPISODE ALL TO HIMSELF! AN EPISODE WHERE THE MAIN THREE CHARACTERS MAKE NO APPEARANCE! Why? Because he fucking needs it. This SIXTEEN-year-old child has the impossible task of trying to capture a legend, and has been trying nonstop for THREE YEARS! The backstory was not going to be something that they could do in exposition, this boy doesn't open up in any way- no fault to him or the show, that's just fact, that's just how he is- with that known there really wasn't any other way to handle him.
When referencing the Storm- I know someone else says it- you really should've remembered that Aang and Zuko are supposed to have parallels here. That's the whole point of the episode. Not to mention Iroh may start with an exposition with the crew that then turns into a flashback, but the crew was hearing this as exposition, so I'd say that doesn't count- if they were flashbacks that the characters didn't see (like in Zuko's memories of his mom and sister in Zuko Alone- this also doesn't really count, but it was the only one I could think of, since he's not telling anyone and is either suffering from heat stroke or mulling over his memories with nothing else to do) then I'd agree, but since they do understand there is no problem.
Okay, I'm good.
Yeah but Todoroki is Dekus rival, you can't just leave a rival half assed.
Nice 👍
The entire Storm episode was paralleling Aang with Zuko. You left that part out, which is another way thier flashbacks are memorable.
Just let Boku No Hero have it's time in the sunlight, because oh boy im worried
Feli Kun, hey ignore me and enjoy the show. cheers.
Feli Kun, fine it's not like i cared anyway imperfect cell, baka
*enters the void and flies away*
Felicity Swan
And in so doing, they set the foundation for and foreshadowed the eventual friendship between the Avatar and the future Fire Lord. Made for some great writing.
Avatar was better
Sorry but I disagree with the Zuko comparison.
What makes that scene so powerful is how it amazingly parralels with Aang's.
And in the last scene of the episode you see their eyes meet, you FEEL that they know that something is connecting them. Even though only WE the audience know WHY they have that connection.
MHA focused on one characters back story. While the other was a battle. ATLA did two at once and they give them a bond that only WE see.
UsonoHoushi my hero academia is good, but its definitely no AVATAR. Its a bit like comparing the big bang theory to the office: ones decent, the other is miles better.
I love both Zuko and Todoroki, but I have to say Zuko's backstory was definitely handled better.
Nah fam. Zuko is way better in terms of charactet and personality arc.
Yup
I completely agree, the only ones saying todoroki is better haven't even watched atla.
Yup, and I'm only on book 2 of ATLA
@@kiyoms I finished
Idk man, you still haven’t convinced me that Todoroki is the better burnt kid.
No
This was NOT handled better than avatar
It was handled pretty well, a bit rushed if anything
But not near as good as avatar
heviRtilery nothing is better than avatar in my opinion
Zuko is a much more dynamic character in comparison; he feels like a PERSON, not just a mere plot device to get the story going or to add some drama. He is more HUMANE compared to Shouto. That's the difference. I mean, it was like Shouto's backstory was just there to make Deku's character seem more heroic. I didn't feel emotionally invested in him that much.
Zuko, on the other hand...man. That episode where he screamed at the sky, screamed at the lightning to hit him, because he could take it, could take whatever shit life throws at him and still manage to survive??? and when he cried and you could see that even though it was raining and it wasnt that obvious??? I watched that scene when I was a child and to this day, I still get chills when I think about it.
heviRtilery they should have slowed down with Shouto's development, and that would have really let him shine
Deku San Shoto’s development isn’t done. My hero isn’t even close to finishing. He still have room to grow
cori its actually across the halfway mark
I'm sorry, but Zuko was just handled better, yes they're both great Characters, but Zuko had enough time to Develop, and we could actually see his Point of View too. For Shoto, We only had a few episodes for him to Develop since he wasn't Important that much in Season 1, and the Creator just shoved Shoto's background down our throats. Honestly Zuko just had more personality than Shoto, especially since he had 3 Seasons to develop.
I'm actually astonished that he would even imply that something in Todoroki's story was done better than Zuko's.
I mean, there's a reason why Zuko is one of the best characters of all time and has the best redemption arc of all time. My Hero Academia is great, but there's no character there that would ever touch the level of Zuko in terms of development and character.
impertinent fool YESSSSSSSSS
it is honestly quite obvious that shouto was inspired by zuko, same looking burn, mother had an arranged marriage, hell half of his quirk is fire after all, he's just like super low down the family tree haha may well be from the same lineage.
@Leon King I would say that too if I stole somebody's character
Leon King Dude gtfo let’s be clear that: 1. Both of them got burned 2. Both can use fire 3. Power hunger fathers and handpicked there wife so they get powerfull childeren (Zuko’s mom is the granddaughter of Avatar Roku) and the list can go on. Even that scene of Deku looking at the past AFO users seems like a rip off when aang sees the past avatars. It’s lame excuse of the Creator just the call it “Coincidence” because it looks like he ripped of some ideas
And has an evil sibling who can use blue flames
FCBrock 101 Seems like you’re ignoring the show’s differences to pile up their similarities. If you describe a bunch of murderers in one city in detail, it makes it sound like murderers are far more prevalent than if you reveal that murderers only composed 0.00000000000001% of all citizens in the entire history of that city.
Sarina Alexa oh my goodness i didn’t notice that Omgg
I believe Mina can regulate the acidity and viscosity of her umm.... secretions.... so maybe you'd be fine? Solid maybe. If that changes your mind.
TazerLad spicy lube
The dangerous is the fun part.
And this is why we have no girlfriends.
TazerLad ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Tsuyu can secrete a toxin that triggers tingly feeling that probably feels good in the dick
"Its your power isn't it!?" Sends chills down my neck everytime I hear it.
Ok, Todoroki is a great character.
But nothing he will ever do will come close to Zuko trying to apologise to Iroh.
I no that seen is so emotional but amazing in so many different levels 😭🥰
I love Mha(My new favourite series), and I do believe that Todoroki's arc was done really well, but I honestly don't think it was done better than Zuko's
...nice title though
The point of Zuko's flashbacks are to contrast with the flash backs of Aang in the episode 'The Storm'. The contrast of stories is purposeful as to reveal that the two character are similar when appearing as complete opposites. This isn't attempt at poor storytelling to that of Avatar. You picked a poor example for your video. Sadness.
Ari Ridge : nicely said
Exactly
Oh! I've been doing it all wrong, thank you for teaching me how to burn my child correctly
The Big Wumpus
XD
😂 OHMYFUCKINGGOD!
Lol
I have a method for burnying your child
1 take your child to the back
2 get boiling water and pour on his head
3then use some nitrogen
4 laugh at his pain
5 beat the shit out of hem
6 thrown him out for 12 years
7 and then treat him like your child
Btw repeat every 12 years
kasp plays thank you for the recipe.
Why do people hate the dub so much? It’s one of the few shows that I always recommend people watch in English because the voice acting is great
Agreed
I don't hate dub, just prefer sub, so I'm probably not the best person to answer your question but here's my take. I tried watching dub to see what the hype was about but I switched back to sub because:
a) I have no issues with subtitles being “distracting” as some people say; I was an antisocial bookworm as a kid.
b) The sub just seemed more impactful -- a lot of the dubbed screaming (anime screaming is very frequent lmao) grated on my ears, whereas subbed always gives me chills. Then again, this could just be because I cringe easily and if it's in English it seems more “cringey” because I know the language.
c) The way English VAs say Japanese names sounds kinda wrong sometimes, and because a lot of the emotional moments have people screaming Japanese names, it doesn't work all that well.
d) Because I watched dubbed after watching subbed, I realized there's a lot of story/implications lost in translation (oftentimes I see dub-watchers have oddly different perspectives on the same scenes than sub-watchers and vice versa), simply because you need to cram English where Japanese was. The translators do an awesome job, but it's impossible not to miss some meaning.
e) Japanese humor/way of talking is extremely different from English humor/diction. (E.g. You don't see people in cartoons fainting with a "ding" sound or bursting into tears at not-so-tearful moments or go into that chibi form thing; it took me adjusting to understand why it was funny when I first started watching anime -- call me slow, but eh). So when English people suddenly start talking with the Japanese humor, I think that's when my cringe-factor is triggered haha. (Again, I cringe easily -- can't even watch my school's plays without wincing, so I'm sure this doesn't apply to everyone).
But I can see the appeal of dub, especially if you find Japanese cringey. “Haters” probably are just hating because people like to bandwagon hate-waves.
To be honest, I just can't stand Izuku's voice in the dub. When he's narrating, it sounds like he's forcing a deep voice and it's ripping his throat apart.
I watch it in dub cause I think the subtitles are a bit annoying in fight scenes. (I re-watch a lot of the fight scenes)
@@blankness8I totally agree, although I watch the dub bc I have deslexia, making it hard for me to read the sub.. sometimes I feel youtubers should react to anime in dubbed for viewers with similar problems, it kinda pisses me off. not to mention I find it hard reading emotion in the Japanese voices for some reason?
Well, technically the entire MHA series is a flashback on how Izuku Midoriya became the greatest hero. So doesn't this mean that the MHA series has the longest amount of flashbacks, with flashback-ception for Todoroki?
Oh yeah. Wait, then if that seem to be the case, how did Midoriya have a flashback of Todoroki’s flashback? Hmm.
I don’t really understand how you can say My Hero Academia did it better when Avatar was the one that actually moved you.
I can certainly see the argument that having Zuko’s backstory exposited to some random crew members is underwhelming. But comparing the two’s backstory exposition is really a bit apples and oranges.
The purpose of having Iroh exposit Zuko’s backstory wasn’t simply to get the story to the audience or instigate change with random crew members. By having Iroh tell the story instead of Zuko, it helps establish the shame and self-blame Zuko carries in that he CAN’T talk about it, and is more content to just have his crew think he’s a jerk. It also shows us more of who Iroh is, in that he wants people to have compassion and understanding for Zuko, even though Zuko rejects his help. If Zuko were able to explain himself, it’d undermine his entire character. This also characterises the entire conflict between Zuko and Aang as being people with conflicting goals who could potentially get along but for some major emotional roadblocks and complications in their circumstances, rather than being a good and bad side as they've seemed to be up until this point.
And while there’s no change in the relationship between the characters since they’re no more aware of each other than they were at the start of the episode, there’s a major shift in how the audience perceives Zuko’s pursuit of Aang after seeing both of their stories. And the fact that their relationship is the same but we as the audience have new context for it creates a sense of dramatic irony and powerful desire for them to FIND that change in relationship, rather than having the story hand it to them before we even know to care about it. And with Zuko’s issues, it’s clear that it’s going to be a major challenge.
Zuko’s half of the episode is also in stark contrast to Aang’s half, in which Aang DOES tell his story directly to Katara, which fosters a change in their relationship, because Aang’s emotionally capable of doing so.
By contrast, Todoroki is more than happy to lay everything out in the open. He knows that what he went through was wrong, and far from hiding it, his refusal to use his left side is his way of publicly shaming his father’s actions and goals. So it only makes sense that he’d tell Deku straight up, and just as it’d undermine Zuko’s character to talk about his past openly, it’d undermine Todorki’s character if he wouldn’t.
As for Todoroki’s story being more streamlined, this is just my opinion but to be honest that just made it feel incredibly underwhelming to me. If a story’s good, why would you want to get it out of the way as efficiently as possible rather than spending time to really appreciate it? Certainly not Naruto-tier time, but I think My Hero Academia’s ninja-sprinted way too far in the other direction, to the point that it barely even introduces a conflict before it’s all resolved.
The fact that Todoroki’s flashbacks were so short just left very little to emotionally engage with. It felt more like reading a wikipedia synopsis. And if all it took for him to change was one fight and a few words from Deku, a kid he barely knows, then it just feels like it can’t have been a very strong issue for him to begin with. I'm reminded of when Jimmy Valmer reconciled the Bloods and Crips with “I mean, come on.”
By contrast, Zuko gets multiple chances to reject his father and empathise with Aang but turns them down time and time again, even when he wants to take the leap, because his desire to please his father is so powerful. It's not just that he doesn't want to reject his father, it's that he can't. That’s what makes it so engaging as he struggles with it, and what makes it so powerful when he finally overcomes it.
Zuko’s father is such a powerful figure to him that we didn’t even see his face until season 3 (at which point he’s revealed as a mere man, showing how much the characters have grown by comparison since thinking of him as a distant warlord in the Gaang’s case, or from the perspective of a traumatised child in Zuko’s case). By comparison, Todoroki’s father’s just hanging out in the open from the get-go with his goofy little moustache, and Todoroki’s comfortable enough with him (and comfortable with himself enough to deal with him) that he even interns with him shorty after Deku’s little pep talk.
What’s funny is that Deku’s perspective of All Might is actually more akin to Zuko’s perspective of his father, in that it begins from a place of extreme, untouchable reverence and slowly progresses to a more level footing as Deku grows stronger and wiser. So it’s not as if the show isn’t capable of this sort of long-form character development and perspective shift.
you my man/woman are amazing thank you for taking the time to explain this
Alan Smithee you need way more likes
Alan Smithee I could not have explained this better myself!
This needs more likes.
Alan Smithee I only read like the first few words, bit long, eh?
Zuko personally had a much bigger impact on me character-wise.. though that may be because I read a lot of trash fiction when I was younger, so anything that has to do with a character using ice and fire and being extremly conflicted with himself makes me cringe, but we all have biases. I also find Zuko a lot more lovable, personally.
i'm watching this out of spite of my friends who i had a *heated* debate with over who's the better character, zuko or todoroki, and most of my friends kept insisting todoroki. their argument was "he isn't hot headed" and "he looks better". jesus christ i love todoroki but you can't do zuko like this, i'm going to have a brain aneurysm
Ben Tennyson no u
@@Mari-ny3qy oh sorry, i mean her friends are stupid, typo
ZUKO IS BEST BOY PERIODT.
Im sorry, but your friends sound dumb.
Quicker ain’t better hun. The faster pace honestly hurt the scene for me, and to this day I’m fucking bored of Todoroki. I’m infinitely more invested in Zuko over him, his flashbacks held way more weight and sticks with you longer. I barely feel like Shoto himself gives a damn about his trauma
HONOR.
Nia **🔥HONOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🔥*
@Nia
*_Tea._*
YOU'RE BANISHED!
@Just Some Guy with a Mustache
Fine. I'll make my own Fire Nation, with tea shops and hookers.
Matter of fact, forget the Fire Nation.
Nia
*HONOR!!*
I'm a simple man, I see Zuko, I hit like.
miniZergling yes.
Me: Mom, can we have Zuko?
Mom: We already have Zuko at home
Zuko at home:
Boku no hero academia Fan no shes just saying zuko is better
Yass
@Boku no hero academia Fan no, just stating facts
The difference between the two is Avatar has a few characters to focus on and it can take its sweet time getting to know each; but My Hero Academia has a minimum of twenty characters to focus on without going into teachers, villains and heroes, so must ration out the development without spending too much time with one character or you’ll end up like Naruto that has five episodes of character explorations apiece.
...Really?
- Aang
- Katara
- Sokka
- Suki
- Toph
- Iroh
- Zuko
- Azula
- Ty Lee
- Roku
- Kyoshi
And that's just some of the most recurrent. The ones who appeared on few episodes were also amazing:
- Jet
- King Bumi
- Hama
- Master Paku
- Princess Yue
- The Dai Li
Every single one of those was much, much better developed than the vast majority of the entire MHA cast.
MHA only has so many main characters. The supporting cast like the teachers and other students don’t really need to be developed. We can pretty much assume that most of them have average families.
Deku
Bakugo
Todoroki
All Might
Iida
Aizawa
Mirio
Eri
-the main cast currently(manga wise)
Some of the people only get their backstories explained. Like Twice, he doesn’t get any character development really. Most characters go through their change in a few episodes which for a supporting characters ark is fine. But for a main character to get a big change in a short span of time isn’t great writing. But MHA doesn’t have too many more mains than ATLA.
Yeah but Todoroki and Bakugo are portrayed as Dekus main rivals. It probably has a lot to do with the manga format. But for Todoroki to be his rival the reason for his scar is kind of weird. I guess the scar is not something that holds Todoroki in the same way it holds Zuko or you could say Zukos scar holds him stronger and deeper than Todoroki with his scar.
@@AgnusCavichioliPereira you forgot mai my dude
I feel like you're down playing Zuko's backstory.
My hero sells me on why one of the protagonist peers act the certain way.
While Avatar trying to make me show sympathy for a villain. That's a factor that you have to add in. Is Zuko's workers represents us the Watchers because we're trying to figure out why he acts this way. While also trying to compare and contrast the protagonist and the antagonist story.
The thing is Todoroki at least has companions to help guide him. Zuko has no one but with him helping his workers it gives a hint that there is a point where he can change. I think that's better writing in my opinion.
His uncle though. (Late I know :D)
S Rank He has Iroh, who changed Zuko over time. You can't talk about Zuko without Iroh.
So I just watched the Todoroki arc and... eh...
It certainly was streamlined and efficient, but I didn't feel anything. I don't know why, but I felt way more for the mind-controlling boy Deku fought before. Probably because he seemed a lot like pre-quirk Deku. We took a long time to relate and feel for Deku. So it was easier to feel for him as well.
It's cool it streamline things for maximum efficiency, but some things just need time.
Things like a friendship or a heart-wrenching backstory shouldn't be done within the time it takes to make cup noodles.
The opening of Up takes about two cuponoodles to get through. just sayin.
I know this thread is a couple months old, but I really needed to say that your line, "Things like a friendship or a heart-wrenching backstory shouldn't be done within the time it takes to make cup noodles.", made me laugh and I thank you for it.
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littleblueclovers if you watched the show out of order. It's probably not going to do much for you. The show is a build up of intensity. It's like watching the season finale fight without watching the rest of the season. You're not going to be as attached to all-might in that moment than you would've if you had watched his development.
EphemeralSean - GOSH DANGIT YOU TRICKED ME.
* You remove the Instant Noodles from their packaging.
* You put some water in the pot and place it on the heat.
* You wait for the water to boil. . .
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* . . .
* . . .
* It's boiling.
* You place the noodles into the pot.
* 4 minutes left until the noodles are finished.
* 3 minutes left until the noodles are finished.
* 2 minutes left until the noodles are finished.
* 1 minute left until the noodles are finished.
* The noodles are finished.
* . . . they don't taste very good.
* You add the flavor packet.
* That's better.
* Not great, but better.
* You ate the Instant Noodles.
* You recovered 4 HP!
Reference from Undertale: czcams.com/video/GhXCCv9nQjw/video.html
I'm sorry, I couldn't resist.
Zuko’s burnt eye just makes sense but i dont think todoroki’s does. Zuko is the original one. :)
Another example of how people overrate My Hero Academia, by the way your argument for how Todorki character arc was better than Zuko’s was poorly made.
Your argument for his argument being poorly made, was more poorly made.
FFKonoko Do you know what an argument is?
@@FFKonoko Lmao he didn't even try to argue
@@clickbaitmullings It is poor because you compared between two flashbacks that serve entirely different reasons. Zuko "flashback" wasn't just to show his past. It was to show two things: First is that Zuko is internally conflicted and confused. Zuko is, in fact, a moral person who is abused by his father without knowing that it is abuse. Thus, he internalizes his pain, goes out his way to search for his honor, without knowing that it is just for approval from his abusive father. Secondly, it shows why his uncle is there for him. His uncle understands Zuko struggle and wishes to help him see the truth. Iroh cares for Zuko. Not only did that flashback from Iroh speech tell us that Zuko doesn't know why he is miserable and conflicted but also tell us how much Iroh cares for his nephew. The story gives Zuko his character depth but also builds up the dynamic between Zuko and Iroh. It created the whole redemption arc for Zuko and allowed growth. If we are to compare them, icyhot is just an angsty kid from an abusive family who became nice after some talk-jutsu. For Zuko, his arc lasted freaking seasons. It went from him going from mad for blood to giving up, back to going mad for blood, to the point of betraying his own uncle (Literally the only one left that cares for him), becoming prince once again but still conflicted; slowly realizing his mistake and confronting his father. I have final right now so this is a shitty ass argument but to dumb down Zuko's flashback is extremely short-sighted or intellectually dishonest.
TL;DR: Zuko had a fking arc while icyhot is a generic angsty kid (arguably a better written sasuke).
@@HuyVo-gd2cj lmao these people clearly didn't watch Avatar, poor schmucks
I FUCKING CHOKED AT THE "Frogs come Pre-Lubed" bit IM CRYING
"Try making me bawl my eyes out"
Yeeeeah, I think that just happened in the manga.
It's like the third time the manga made me cry, but it was the most sobbing messy crying by far.
dagdamor1 SAME ;~;
All Might Vs All for One. When everyone watching the fight screaming and crying "All Might" and hope that he will win the fight. Seeing All Might reveal his poor state to the entire country. See even a villains care his student. And the last All Might Punch. That scene make my eye teary a bit.
If this scene is animate correctly, that will be one of most remember anime scene. Bones, Please do it right.
Care for his vengeance, you mean. Or is it just a coincidence that he found his (spoiler's spoiler?) right after (spoiler.). 8 times out of 10 he caused it. The other two are the kid's quirk.
Not going to lie, I teared up a little bit on chapter 95, when (Spoilers ------>) All Might told Midoriya that he was retiring due to losing his power, that he was going to focus strictly on Midoriya's development as a hero, then hugged him and jokingly told him to stop being a crybaby while trying not to cry himself. Really does go to show how amazing of a father-figure All Might really is. Even after losing so much, all the guy could think about was making sure his kid would be okay.
"boiling point" "hot water issue"
Too soon, bro. Too soon.
i stand with you
Todoroki vs zuko
*battle of the backstories*
Zuko’s backstory is 10 times painful. And like its so hard to find the true path after getting hated and getting ashamed bc of his tribe’s mistakes. Zuko is better.
Hejjy facts
Ebony Vortex periodt
Hejjy also todoroki is lowkey spoiled by his father like even though endeavour has done despicable things to him. todo basically gets and does whatever he wants as long as it doesn’t infringe on his training...plus he didn’t have to use endeavour when 1A chose a hero agency but still did.
Ebony Vortex exactly.
It's hard to see the reason for labeling this as a comparison about which is better if you are only going to compare the series at two points and admit that the arguments are arbitrary. All it's going to do is create flame wars and confuse your audience as to whether you're serious or not. I'd be way more interested if you went into the effects of the different methods or the reasons for their approaches.
For example: Todoroki explaining himself to Deku acknowledges Deku as a human being/worthy adversary, shows how he feels that their fight will validate part of his identity by denying his father, and prepares the audience for a dramatic shift in character that can be spurred by logic. He is concious of what he wants and knows why he wants it.
Iroh explaining Zuko to a soldier (and not Zuko explaining himself to the Aang) shows how Zuko views the Avatar as an object/macguffin for his redemption, shows how he is searching for validation from his father but does not know it and only sees it as "regaining his honor," and shows the audience that Zuko needs to entirely rethink his identity/go through a journey to redeem himself that will not be solved by those soldiers. Avatar's method also shows how Iroh sees Zuko's pain while Zuko doesn't really know what he wants. Due to this simple difference in who tells the story Heroaca builds a substantial problem with a quick solution for a character who has established his identity and needs to become more comfortable in it, while Avatar builds a monumental identity issue for a character that requires seasons worth of development to solve.
See how this approach is more informative/useful/nonflammable?
Zaphero agreed
this comments needs more likes, seriously.
Non flammable heh i see what you did there
Zaphero
the purpose of the video wasn't to make a direct comparison between bnha and avatar, he was explaining how the character development was pulled off well while using avatar as a point of relation akin to something like "hey, these two things are similar, that's fun". If he was truly doing a comparison between the two then he would have gone more in depth with the detail from how Zuko's development goes in avatar. The fact that the video title says ft avatar instead of bnha/avatar comparison should be evidence enough that it's not a comparison about which is better but rather an analysis about how it was pulled off and why it works so well.
See, Lupus gets it.
I fundamentally disagree with you saying it's better to be concise since your comparing it to Zuko in terms of the complexity of relationship avatar managed to make over the course of the series
there's also the dual Aang-Zuko dynamic that went on for the entire series. i don't think it's fair to judge Zuko's exposition without mentioning that.
Alex Majin DID SOMEBODY SAY DICKRIDER?!
Alex Majin Debatable over the long run as BNHA isn't over yet, but in terms of characterization, id say that Zuko's is more powerful. However, so far, he seems to have a more pivotal role in the Avatar compared to Todoroki's role in BnHA
Zuko has far more honor than that other scrublord will ever have
i think thats why he told the show to make him cry
that random invisible girl is *best girl*
Exactly. Everybody would think you're insane.
Japan: we can create a cute girl out of nothing!
I don’t know dude, that part where he gives his entire backstory to Deku was kinda cringe. It felt very “anime” to me, and didn’t make sense for his character to do so.
The God AMONG ALL MEN deku reminds him of allmight, so he asks if he is the secret love child of allmight, as he thinks that deku was the result of a quirk marriage, similar to his conception.
I guess he got so preoccupied in these thoughts he began rambling because he needed to vent out his emotions, and deku was conveniently there when he came to his conclusion.
Lol
"Hit boiling point" - didn't laugh
"Hot water issue" - OMG I'm dying XD
Wow way to roast Todoroki's dad. Oh well, the video was pretty lit.
bored-asf just like endeavour's beard
Under appriciated puns, am I right?
Just stop
bored-asf wow your on fire arent you
I would be upset that a video essay *tries* to describe MHA as more streamlined than Avatar, but seeing as there was also the sentence "frogs come pre-lubed" I think I'm okay
You’ve gotta be kidding. Zukos burn makes wayyyy more sense than todorokis
"Far superior subs"
Someone hasn't seen Ghost Stories.
Patrick Adcock oh my lord. That dub was just freaking awesome.
Patrick Adcock dub is 20x better than the sub in that show
In before all the dub haters immediately shriek about how it "changed the source material" when the Japanese TOLD the localizers it NEEDED to be changed.
Patrick Adcock DBZ. Nuff Said.
the exception that prove the rule
Sorry but the lightning fast backstory exposition just doesn't do it for me. See unlike zuko i didn't have time to connect with the guy. I mean yea my own fucked up childhood helped me feel for him and dekus response to todorokis self-loathing and pittying made me cry like a little bitch and all but i pretty much stopped caring about him the instant the tournament arc was over. And that's because where theirs an emotional bond there's a relationship and heroaca didn't give me time to build one to any character but deku, iida, best girl and bakugou. Zuko on the other hand connects better than anyone else because he doesn't just give you a glimps into his life. You experience his pain, struggle and growth right along side him. In some cases you can even learn his lessons with him. He's more alife than any character in heroaca ever presented.
I think the difference is that todoroki wanted to be as far away from his dad as possible, while Zuko just wanted his dad to like him.
Bro. Todoroki is cool but Zuko is undoubtedly way better. I havent read the manga, but I highly doubt that he'll ever be able to be as deep and well written as zuko.
"That shit comes pre-lubed" is now my favorite quote.
“FROGS COME PRE-LUBED”
Aaaaaand subscribed
None can top ATLA
Simple examples
“Hello, Zuko here”
the general existence of iroh
Toph’s existence
The entirety of team avatar
And “MY CABBAGES!!!!”
Need I say more
Is it faster? Yes. Does that its better handled? I dont think so. In this essay I will...
Hey! Zuko was one of the best character developments in tv history! Lol seriously
true. i freaking love him
I don’t know about all that
@@2fly97 It's the truth and if you can't see that then you've got issues
Einhorn Taschentuch opinions exist.
@@sheriffaboubakar9720 They do, but so does common sense
The scar is not on the wrong side!
that's rough buddy
I want someone to get the scene where Zuko says “That’s rough buddy.” And paste Todoroki’s face over Sokka
I know the video would be a literal second long video, but I will cherish that second
zuko >todoroki
zuko storyline is the best written ever
meanwhile todoroki story does not feel original at all
there are time i feel sad for zuko.
and there is literally no reason at all for me to pity an overpower character.
todoroki story does not feel sad at all, it feel forced.
zuko
Chazoo *disproves one point*
“Yeah, all of your 4 or so points are flimsy and opinion-based, I just proved that!”
Chazoo dudE calm down. it’s not that seriOu’s.
Chazoo it might be harder to make an original backstory, but it’s still possible. Especially with characters with all kinds of powers. The abusive dad-loving mom trope is common, and I can’t say how often I’ve seen it. But nothing is really added to MHA’s version of it other than quirks. And I don’t really feel bad for Todoroki. My love and sympathy ends for him after the fact he’s probably the best looking person throughout the series. He doesn’t really have emotional turmoil or a real reason for me to cry over him. He’s just edgy and can’t get over himself sometimes.
I mean, when your forced to stay away from all your siblings because your father said their not to be meddled with, and soon your mother becomes insane because your father is too abusive, and then she says your left side is unbearable and pours boiling water on your face, and then you’d have to love your life alone, with the only person you trusted and loved was split away from you, and you having to go through immense pain and loneliness for years until you’re able to leave that damned place you call a home. That’s kinda sad, and there’s no way you can’t say that’s sad, it may be unoriginal, but it’s still sad as fuck, I have a tip, out yourself in Todoroki’s shoes when she was a child, also known as empathy.
I liked this video and stayed subscribed, does that make me edgy?
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I would say Zuko's was done better...would.
The problem is that technically IcyHot's character development/story isn't really finished yet so it wouldn't be fair to compare what we've seen so far to the entirety of Zuko's character arc through the entire Avatar series...
I'd say in the end Zuko's will be better, but I have a bit of a bias in that I really hate the character design they went for with IcyHot. His character is supposed to look 'cool' I guess, but he just looks stupid to me. It's like someone read a "Duality for dummies" book and based his physical appearance off that.
I just want to say I appreciate you referring to him exclusively as IcyHot.
Duality for dummies lol. It was even worse back when he had his ice shell design. I see what you mean ,but I find his current design cool.
@@Kuma5655 the ice shell design fucking killed me, i hated it in every way possible jUsT eW
so like
good job midoriya
for making him give that shit up and develop as a character
Who the hell are you calling Icyhot ????!!!!!!!!
No one tell them
ty lee vs all UA students
ty lee uses chi blocking
ty lee wins
UA studens in hospital
LOOOOOOOOOL
Todoroki: Who are you?
Zuko: I'm you, but cooler.
Todoroki: How are you cooler than me? You don't even have ice-powers.
Zuko: Oh yeah, you're right.
He got lightning power tho.. fire and ice? A bit meh and cliched. But FIRE AND LIGHTNING? Hell yeah!
@SleepyWolf well that doesn't mean he can't do it, if ozai and azula was able to do it why not him
Also Zuko: but i have a depth and complex backstory than you
Zuko is a million times cooler
@SleepyWolf he did to azula when she was going all crazy and shit
bakugou has went off and joined orochimaru lmfao
The funny thing is that "oriochimaru" did try to recruit him
I'm one who prefers the slower development of Zuko's backstory, but your absolutely right about the delivery of the burn exposition. At the end of The Storm I could honestly care less about Zuko's relationship with his crew, who are less than minor characters and never touched on again, but with Todoroki telling Deku telling the story mattered to more than just the viewer and actually fueled future character relationships in a meaningful way.
Slow cooker rather than kettle.
I feel Todoroki mentioning his burn to Deku was extremely forced and wouldn't really make sense. Zukos method of bringing it up felt more real and honest.
1:20 is when I died
W M-J CRAP YOUR HANDS! XD
I am still dying. Holy fuck I did not expect this.
W M-J. Agreed
I had to stop watching at that point. It's all right to like sub and it's all right to like dub. But acting like one is far better than the other is matter of opinion and honestly, the way he presented this in the video turned me off.
"If you read the comics, you'll find out that Zuko's mother was also in an-"
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I DID NOT READ THE COMICSSSSSS YETTTTT
the comics weren't that good imo
@SqueakyPickles07 yeah. i'm glad that Legend Of Korra doesn't give any hint towards the comics ever existing, because their events were also a little lack-luster.
I don't know that I'd say that MHA handled Todoroki BETTER than TLA handled Zuko. I think they took two very different approaches to their characters, and both did their respective approaches very well.
Zuko was intended to be a slow burn. We were supposed to learn more and more about him as time goes on until he very gradually became a sympathetic character. As we learned about him, Zuko would likewise learn about himself, and these things would slowly build until his betrayal as he joins the avatar's side.
Todoroki, on the other hand, was supposed to be a quick change. They didn't have a lot of time for him and had to make do with what they had. This was, however, doable: the most noticeable difference between the two being that Todoroki was never a villain, only a rival, and he never had any personal vendetta against Deku... I mean you might say that Deku's relationship with All Might created a personal vendetta, and you would be sort of right, but I don't think it's really animosity so much as a spark for rivalry (see Bakugo to understand what I mean.)
Todoroki could be afforded a quick change, since he was never evil or anything. It's not like they're trying to get the audience to see a villain as sympathetic, understandable, AND give them a reasonable reason to turn PLUS a redemption arc, a la Zuko. If they handled Zuko the same way they handled Todoroki, it wouldn't have worked at all given Zuko's inherent opposition to the heroes on every ground at the start of the series. Likewise, handling Todoroki like Zuko wouldn't have worked because it would have dragged on way too long, and made a character that really wasn't doing anything wrong or bad have way too much time to redeem himself, despite not really needing to be "redeemed" in the first place.
In conclusion, All Might is the ultimate dad as well as the greatest superhero. Guy can give you support from the other side of a screen.
Boiling water vs Fire fight with your evil dad?
Mmm, I’d say the latter. Your analysis sounds bias solely for the fact of Tsu 😤😤
So.
I love them both.
They have crazily different stories despite so many similarities. Zukos character arc, instead of his emotional awakening at the end of season two, it was his lowest point. Todoroki learns to trust someone and through that he realizes he’s his own person. Both end in them letting go of pent up anger.
They’re equally impactful in different way, everyone calm down aren’t they both precious children?
preach. 👏
I do definitely believe that Todoroki was based on Zuko, this is interesting because ATLA was hated severely in Japan (because of the fire nation and the parallels to Japan's war crimes, also season 3 didn't even get dubbed in Japanese due to how much it was hated) whereas Korra is adored and is a cult classic~
How do you know that ATLA was hated in Japan? I'm curious as to where you got this information from
Korra is know here as being the bad one whilst avatar is know for being the good one
Whether that’s true is up for debate, but I must say this anyway.
“I don’t like this because it reminds me of the crimes my nation has committed in the past and I don’t like that.”
Mr. Cup who said that ?
MoBro+ It’s true hun
Unique's comment about Bakugou.
Oh lord is he in for a treat.
dagdamor1 RAID ARC INTENSIFIES
dagdamor1 all the " I told you he is just like Sasuke" comments will be glorious...
dagdamor1 IM NOT READY FOR IT TO BE ANIMATED IM QUAKING
ACCIDENTAL SPOILERS MY DUDE
But he just tells the villains to go fuck themselves... am I missing something?
it's spoilers from the manga, to be exact. also, Bakugo isn't as simple as you think. a person with a raging superiority complex compounded with a sort of inferiority complex: he is arguably the most complex/compounded character of this series. (with Deku being at #2 for character complexity imo)
Why did this appeared in my moms searches WAIT MOM AHHH-..
That one guy who thinks shotou is an improvement of zuko
Me with my kettle in hand: How would you like to look like him? :-D
@Rinne Sharingan God Bro is that even a question?
Zuko for life
He's my favorite character from anything ever
Since you love ATLA so much, what is your opinion about LoK ?