Can You Actually SAVE Money Driving A Ford F-150 Hybrid? Here Is My MPG After a Year Of Ownership!
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One of the main reasons to consider the Ford F-150 PowerBoost as an all-around, daily driver truck is its potential fuel economy, thanks to its hybrid powertrain. But how well does it actually work in the real world? Can you achieve some considerable savings over getting a conventional 3.5-liter EcoBoost? Andre covers his fuel economy after a full year of ownership!
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Premium fuel 91 octane ? Is that what the manufacturer recommends or can it run on regular 87 octane ?
I think more people need to do the math before getting too wrapped up in worrying about mileage. People talking about trading their truck to save a couple mpg which calculates approximately to around $3-$400 a year with $4 gas with the average driver. Which would obviously be less if gas goes back down. Don’t spend $15k or more on a new truck to save $4k and justify by saying you’re saving so much $ on gas….just admit you want a new truck.
Exactly. Only makes sense if you're looking to upgrade regardless of hybrid/non hybrid
You can get a very nice used truck for half the price or less than this Hybrid.
Like you said the difference in MPG does not justify it.
$25k-$30k in savings will buy you a LOT of gas... plus you'll save more on monthly insurance
I agree 💯👍. In the future, if the prices come down with this chip shortage, EV rebates for state and federal, I would consider getting an EV car. That gives me a saving of $300 dollars a month on gas.
Smart
@dg1
Do you get free electricity to charge the car? Probably not so you won’t be saving that much after all
The biggest advantage I can see with the Hybrid is having a built-in battery and generator for a travel trailer. If you're going to do a lot of off-grid camping hauling generator and fuel for it, just being able to use the truck for your power needs is a big plus. I would love to see someone do a Hybrid in the Heavy Duty segment with a diesel. It would be a great truck for people who live full time in a camper.
More like backyard camping
The problem is that you need to keep the truck there at all times to use the generator. That will work fine for some people, not so much for others.
@@plmn93 a lot of people that live full time have larger battery banks with solar panels. I'm just saying that for some people that would the way to go.
I love camping with my hybrid. Owned a few from many brands and they are great. Especially when a very bad storm rolls in and the kids get scared to camp outside we jump in the hybrid and run climate control all night and not worry about the engine running the whole time
They never build things that are smart.
Only build to suck your money out.
I appreciate the detail and info you guys have on this channel. Almost to 1 million subs! Keep up the good testing/videos 👍🏻
I think if you have a camper trailer, the generator option is by itself what makes this truck the best. No need to have a large, loud generator, just turn the truck on generator mode. I would like to see more videos of this on camping
I just took my 2 month old powerboost on a road trip from southern CA to almost the Oregon border around 1700 miles. Conditions were pretty ideal. Hot, low wind and mostly flat. I ended up getting right about 23 MPG overall, as advertised. This was with my wife and 2 younger boys and about 500 lbs of stuff in the bed covered with a hard tonneau cover. I was pretty happy with that.
Yeah but a 2.7 could have done that too. I have many times in ideal conditions in my 2.7 crew cab 4x4.
@@plmn93 When he is in town they still get over 20mpg for everyday driving. Also the hybrid takes stress off the engine which should put less wear on it overtime. hybrids are best for city/suburb driving as you get the benefit of regen which you don't get on the hwy
Could of done that without a truck and have gotten better mpg.
I finally went from a V8 5.4l triton 4x4 to the 2.7l ecoboost 4x4, and I love it. I live in SW Oklahoma and drive all over north Texas and Oklahoma, and so far I actually get the mileage that was posted on the sticker, if I’m pushing into the crazy wind it gets couple miles lower doing 75-80 mph, but with the wind pushing me I get what it says sometimes a little better, except when I’m pulling my pontoon boat (which is like dragging a deployed parachute) I get around 7-9 mpg doing 60-70 mph which I’m fine with. Couldn’t be happier and hopefully everything keeps going great with my 2022 f-150 XL STX 4x4 crew cab.
Nice truck! I’m up here in Edmond storm just hit. I guess it already passed y’all.
When I am doing just nice easy country highway driving, usually at 63-67 or 53-57 MPH, I am getting 22-24 mpg in my XLT with the 5.5' bed and a tonneau cover. But if I drive 70 or 80 MPH, then MPG drops a bunch more, down to 19 or so. I always use 87 octane gas. Overall, having got the truck in late October, driving through the winter with tires aired down a bit for traction, my total is 19.9 mpg. I am seeing MPG go up since I aired up the tires last week.
Aall that being said, MPG isn't the reason I got it. Being able to idle with the engine off, or stop and go when I pick my daughter up from school, with no exhaust, is more important to me. Also, when working on things outside, I can keep it in Generator mode and be running a refrigerator or tools, and it only comes on for about 2 minutes an hour to recharge the engine. I plan on doing that when camping this summer.
I am also glad that I won't have the sides of my truck rusting away like so many drivers do here in Wisconsin, from the salt on the roads. Aluminum siding = peace of mind there. But I did have the undercoating put on mine, due to Ford's track record with rusting undercarriage from the moment leaves the factory.
Lastly, sometimes on an empty road or when getting on the freeway, it is fun to just floor it and feel the punch of speed with the e motor and the turbos!
So I think there is more to it than just the numbers. For someone needing best freeway driver, Silverado would probably be better. A plug-in hybrid truck would be my ideal I think, as wouldn't worry about running out of charge when camping, but could drive pretty much just on electric for daily driving.
Either way, I am polluting significantly less than I was driving my Ram 1500, and that is the most important to me.
And, as the last poster noted, I wanted a new truck!
Hybrid is the way to go right now for sure. I don’t even think plug in hybrid is even worth the hassle of plugging unless it’s convenient like where you park or worked. Traveling with all electric would be a nightmare.
I live around Atlanta and get similar results in my 22 pb 4wd lariat with about 1k lbs of cargo and myself. Although city driving is very bad, as we all drive too aggressive to get any real benefit from the electric side. The best ive seen mpg-wise was 26-27 while drafting a semi at 70mph. I'm also using 87 right now, but I just ordered a tune from livernois, so all of my fuel savings will be gone soon. 💸
For now the Hybrid F150 in Lariat trim with the tow package trim AND the 7200 WATT Powerboost option is the BEST DEAL out there for ANY truck! You get incredible bed payload, great towing and that VERY NICE worksite/campsite/home-use capable on-board generator! No other truck can do that!
I would PERSONALLY like the PLATINUM or LIMITED edition trim but it's getting up there in price when you get all those interior luxury niceties loaded on-board! The Lariat Edition has the best balance of price vs utility! If you want More Luxury but not the massive price tag of a PLATINUM or LIMITED edition, the King Ranch is your better bet.
Out of the RAM 1500, CHEVY/GMC 1500, Toyota Tundra, Nissan Titan truck series, the OVERALL BEST BALANCE between interior/exterior features, towing/bed capacity AND decent price point is the Ford F150 Lariat Trim level with 7200 watts Powerboost and the towing package option. You get a LOT of truck for your money!
You can then spend the money you save on a nice thick Aftermarket-applied Line-X branded Heat and UV resistant coating for the full underbody, all wheel wells, engine bay walls and an extra layer of bed liner coating which will protect your investment. I would also spend $2000 USD to get a heavy duty front bumper and bush bar (coated entirely with Line-X) that has an onboard 16,000 lbs winch and add in TWO 20 Gallon (75 litre) Jerry Cans to ensure LOOOOOONG driving range between fill-ups!
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@@michaelbassett5105 um....you get a 7500$ tax credit for throwing in 300lbs of battery in the frame that you never see. all you have to do is plug in and get 30 free miles a day or so. whats to hate, so hard to save 5$ by plugging in a cord every day
@@StarGateSG7 no
thanks for honest review Andre, love your work. My 4x2 supercab 2.7T gets 23-24 at high speed level ground. 28 MPG at 60mph. love it.
The beginning of this video brings back bad memories of filling up my 2013 F150 5.0. Credit card would top out at 100$ and Id have to hang up the pump and start over. 36 gallon tank. 😂
Same, going to give 3.0 Duramax Sierra a try.
I love my 2019 ram limited. But between City and highway driving in northeaster PA through the mountains I’m looking at about 17 mpg average. I have a Honda Fit that is my daily driver, so mpg isn’t quite as important as it could be for me. So if mpg is your primary concern then it seems this hybrid should absolutely be on your list of potential trucks to buy.
I love your videos Andre! I recently bought a Lariat Powerboost and love it. I only wish instead of MPG's I'd like to see cost per mile vs diesel trucks. I traded my 2.7 F150 because I recently bought a camper to tow. It's unladen weight is 6600 pounds.
A lot of it can be linked to your commute. I recently got rid of my '15 Ecodiesel with a 3:55 ratio 4x4 due to my new longer commute and it hated it 18 mpg, but when I lived in Co 22.5-25 mpg all day. Was $130 a week and thankfully before the $5 gallon diesel arrived or it would be nearly $200 a week. Even my "long term rental" '22 Elantra does 33-38 mpg rated at 41 mpg hwy which is 90% of my driving still cost me $70 a week now. I didn't need my truck every day of the week like some do so get it if you can't do this, but also remember it isn't worth trading in for 2-4 mpg better and starting all over in a new loan for $15 a week. I do 85 miles just on my commute closer to 100 or more daily for runaround and errands. If you want a new truck just wait for them to catch up production and get a discount.
I would really appreciate, if you can come up with a video comparing this with the old GM 2 mode hybrid system and show a comparison of tech, fuel efficiency, reliability, capabilities ( include towing ). We can see how much tech changed in last 14 years .
The ford maverick makes a great road tripping truck. Really good highway MPGs, comfortable, and enough capability to do what you need once you get there.
Awesome info, I bought one thanks to you
I recently traded my Volkswagen Atlas in for a 2016 2.7L f150 Sport, and I honestly couldn't be happier. This truck is beautiful inside and out, LOTS of power and pep for this little turbo engine, and the gas mileage is the best I've ever had with any vehicle - even my wife's Kia Sorento. A tank of gas will cost me around $250'ish (in Canada), and will last me IF I push it for 4-5 weeks, compared to my Atlas, this is huge considering I was filling up every week (about $90 at the time) this is a daily driver -- grocery shopping//trips//family dinners//kid activities//work etc.. etc.. I highly recommend this engine if you're looking for a truck that doesn't need a lot of towing power.
If the towing and payload meet your needs, the 2.7 is the best 1/2 ton truck engine on the market in my opinion. Absolutely love mine. But make no mistake, what it can tow, it tows better than my old 5.4 did or the current 5.0. Can't beat the low end torque of a turbo when you're hauling. Ford handicaps it with a light duty rear axle for better economy and cost savings. After owning it for 5 years now I am convinced it could otherwise haul much more than it's rated for.
City fuel economy + 7.2kW generator feature is what makes me want one. It would be amazing if the next gen Powerboost could do realistic highway driving.
You could buy an older one and a battery powered generator for a lot cheaper
Could you get without a truck?
@@roodick85not everyone wants to cart around a hundred pound generator everywhere they go. I think the Powerboost is brilliant! I just question that 7200 watt generators longevity after 5+ years or 100,000 miles of driving. Ford engineering has traditionally over-promised and under-delivered
Love my 2021 powerboost! The extra power and electric power while driving in town is what I purchased it for. When I head to the mountains for moose season a full EV is a no go, I cannot plug it into a tree lol.
Andre, Thanks again for keeping it real. 😁
Great content as always Andre. Thank you for an honest review of fuel economy on the hybrid F150. I was considering the hybrid, but will keep my 2015 F150 2WD with 2.7 ecoboost for now. 22-23 mpg at 75 mph with AC going.
Andre I special ordered a truck just like yours for the 2022 model year, my only difference is atlas blue and 6 1/2 ft bed. $49.800 got the 7.2kw too can't wait to get it mabe in May or June. Thanks for helping me with my new truck decision!
I love my 2.7 2019 F-150 XLT with a 10 speed trans. I live in a large city and 1/3 of my time I’m on the freeway. Purchased new and have had no problems.
One cost savings in having a hybrid is replacing brakes. The regen braking greatly extends the life of brake pads and rotors. Most prius owners never have to replace their brakes for the duration of ownership.
If you don't hose them down with freshwater and park in a dry garage, they might actually rust more because they're so infrequently used.
Have you tried getting a tune for it yet?
As a Prius driver, I almost never use my breaks. It’s not even just in braking that you get the regeneration. For example, when I exit the highway or I have a stop in front of me and nobody close behind, I’ll just coast and it will fill the battery so much more than letting it charge from the engine.
Did you ever consider the fact that you tow would skew your mpg average over 4K miles?
Till your 10k trans goes
You should do an eco challenge/ hypermile challenge... Like highway speed at 55 mph .... Most Highways here in Canada is only 80 kph/ 50 ish mph... Lots of wind resistance difference from 55 to 75
yep. today after dropping my youngest off at school, driving home I forgot to speed up from 43 mph speedzone to 55, and drove the last 4 miles home just on electric with the Powerboost. Makes for a nice relaxing ride enjoying springtime coming
Agreed, all the highways northern Ontario are 80kph max
Yeah and get crushed by an 18 wheeler going to slow on the interstate
@@michaelbassett5105 that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard... They have passing lanes
@@michaelharrisson1683 watch your tone Canadian or I’ll park my 18 wheeler in front of your house and block your driveway.
I have a 2021 F 150 powerboost hybrid and really enjoy the 7.2 kw inverter/ generator- I’m puzzled that ford or Toyota haven’t offered a plug in hybrid - a vehicle with 60 miles electric-only would transform the economics of truck ownership allowing most owners to avoid gas entirely during the week with gas kicking in for long distances or towing….no range or winter endurance issues…no issues with lagging charging infrastructure and the first past the post winner would capture many drivers intrigued but not yet convinced about electricity….
Me too. Interested in a PHEV truck with power outlets.
This is the introduction people need to EVs. I'm a big EV fan but know that the comments of range anxiety can hurt the progression. plug-in hybrids are a great introduction to the benefits of EVs and prepare them for maybe a full transition with the comfort of full rage by an ICE
@@eliotjoe9889 agreed….and the car company that gets them in their transition vehicle first will lock in a whole generation of EV buyers ….
@@eliotjoe9889 Yes indeed. I'm interested in both Jeep 4xe and Volvo XC60 PHEVs. A PHEV truck with large battery would be super, much like Andre's truck but plug-in.
I’m with you all the way. I’m like “what the heck they waiting for?” PHEV truck makes so much sense. Hurry up and make it Ford any you have my money!
Thanks Andre for the video, actually based on your feedback I bought a 2022 Powerboost Hybrid in early Feb, and it is just 1 month now, and my experience is great. It is a capable machine, you focussed on MPG, but II think people buying a 70k focus more on the capability and fun part more. THis truck is very powerful, torque is excellent so I am loving it, it does cost more than 2.7l but the 5-8k worth to my understanding. You have suggested premium octane, any specific reason or just better fule efficiency.
Generally turbo charged vehicles should always use the highest octane available
@@buildingsalvage It depends entirely on the manufacturer's recommendation, because that recommendation is based on how they tuned the engine. For the F-150, the recommendation is 87. Using a higher Octane rating is unlikely to cause problems, but is usually a waste of money. And of course, you should avoid fuel with a lower Octane rating than the manufacturer recommends (ie 85) unless you have a carbureted engine at high altitude.
That said, modern engines will often adjust their timing and/or fuel mixture based on sensed characteristics of the fuel, adjusting the vehicle performance to the fuel type. According to tests done by Car & Driver, the ecoboost engines are some of the best at this adaptability, with the 3.5L delivering an extra 20hp and 0.5mpg on 93. Which is very impressive - but totally not worth the cost under normal operating conditions. If you are towing near the limits of it's capacity, then you mind find some value in the extra performance.
Still my favorite truck on the show. My 2.7TT with the 6-speed doesn't get that MPG overall. It can get over 21 only when at low elevation on flat roads in Southern Georgia and the like. In WV and hills and turns, it's under 20.
Damn, that's not very good. My 2018 5.0 4WD gets over 22 on flat roads doing 70mph (110kph).
informative video... thanks Andre 👍🏾
Thank you Andre! Yeah it’s never consistent from truck to truck. My Ram 1500 Classic does about 23-25 mpg highway doing 70 mph on regular gas with the 5.7 on a good day. Of course it is a Tradesman quad with std mirrors, 2wd, 3.21 rear axle and a few mods including a tonneau cover, upgraded air intake, running boards, and push bar. It comes down to configuration.
That's pretty good for the 5.7! The 3.6 V6 does even better. . .until you put a load in it.
My father told me that the estimated EPA is based on 55 mph. If you watch your tach you will see the difference between 55 mph and 75 mph not to mention wind, hill's and traffic
Yes, this is correct. EPA is manipulated as well. It's irrelevant in most cases as everyone drives differently.
Even the EPA highway loop also has a bit of city type driving mixed in, which would give a hybrid’s economy rating a good boost.
Its true with a truck. Its dissapointing that epa is done at 55mph. Who drives at 55mph. But on my wifes 2020 Camry Hybrid, epa was almost 100% at 75-80mph.
That was the old EPA test. They redid the ratings in the mid 2000’s because hybrid ratings were so far off. The original Toyota Prius was rated by EPA around 64 mpg when in reality it got around 45 mpg.
I didn't get much difference between 60-75 mph out of my 5.7 hemi.
I get 20 mpg on the highway with my Ram 1500 Hemi. Off the highway the mileage is awful. I'm not complaining, I knew this going into my purchase two years ago. I wasn't anticipating the price of gas to double though. I was paying about a dollar a liter here in Canada when I purchased it. I'm expecting two dollars a liter pretty soon. Currently, we're at about 1.75 per liter. Oh what fun.
I’ve had a pile of issues with mine and still got few more that needs to be taken care of but as Efficiency yes best truck I’ve owned!!!
Thanks for the honest review Andre, you rock dude. My thoughts are, my Power Wagon on 35's gets 17-18 hwy, my old '14 GMC Sierra 1500 4x4 V8 got 21 hwy, your hybrid gets mid 20's, honestly it doesn't really matter. The difference in mpg is negligible no matter what brand you go with, they're all very close ( go figure ), and there's no free lunch. So anyways, unless you're driving a million miles a year it really doesn't matter. For my guys struggling on a budget about to cuss me out, I feel ya, I've been there, but I also wasn't even thinking about driving a newer truck, I drove old cheap junk back then. Cheers to all
There is a massive difference in efficiency between 17 mpg and mid 20’s. That’s more than 1.5 gallons / hundred miles.
Love the truck. Ready for the 100k update!
Thank you for the info!
My brother’s 2019 F-150 XLT 4x4 twin-turbo 3.5 ecoboost is scary quick but sucks up fuel like mad. 15.7 mpg. Imagine the fuel economy if the body weren’t aluminum. Getting mileage in the 20’s would be stellar.
Thanks for the one year review. I got my Powerboost last November, but I am concerned about having my catalyic converter stolen. Do you know of a good solotion for theft protecton of the catalyic converter?
My V8 for road trips and your truck would be perfect for my work, lots of short trips, loaded and towing. Thank you for the update 🏁🏁👍😊. I like the work models, I like that it has a key!!!
Andre,
On the previous Gen of F150 ('15-'20) there is a way to correct the fuel mileage estimate (lie-o-meter). The vehicle can be put in "engineering" mode and the correction can be made. There are many videos on CZcams in reference to this.
That being said, I have no idea if this applies to the current generation.
Just a thought. Otherwise, great video as always.
It does. Just a slightly different way to access the engineering mode. Hold the OK button on wheel for 5 seconds, then apply brakes and start truck while continuing to hold both. The dash should go into engineering mode. Use arrow keys to cycle through different screens until you arrive at AFE Bias. Stock is always 1000/xxx. calculate new number by dividing your actual (hand calculated) mpg by what the dash mpg reads. Every truck is different, depending on gear ratio, tire diameter, and even how the computer has 'learned' your style of driving. My AFE bias is 963 which took a few fill-ups to calibrate. HINT: Do your calculations and check your dash numbers BEFORE resetting to zero. If you need to tweak it, make your changes and it will change what your current dash readings are. That will help you know you are going in the right direction. E.g. dash says you got 22.8 but the math says 22.3, adjust your bias a few numbers down (about 3-5) and check the dash. It's never perfect but pretty darn close. Do this a few fill-ups and you will be within .2-.3 mpg all the time.
My 21 f-150 3.5 eco boost, get 9/10 mpg hauling 8500 pound camper. I’m happy
I have a tiny Euro spec Toyota Hilux diesel. It uses the same amount of fuel as yours 26mpg UK gallons (20.8 mpg US gallons). So congratulations to you and Ford
Thanks for the honesty.
Dang for a full size pickup these are pretty good numbers. I'm still planning on getting a V8 since it's what I promised myself but this is a hard second look for sure. Maybe even this one in the end.
Can you imagine camping and then seeing Andrey pull up next to the spot near you ? At that moment you realize it’s going to be a great camping experience
Andre, I'm surprised you didn't calculate the actual fuel economy, given that you filled up at the pump in the video. We all know how optimistic the vehicle computer is when showing estimated fuel economy.
You're asking for his fuel records for the last 12000 miles? Because that's what the truck lifetime average on the screen was about...🤨
@@ddbutikofer825 No, what I'm asking for what very obvious. An actual calculation of what he really got on the last tank, since he filled up at the beginning of the video. Sorry if you misunderstood man.
I'd add- go a step further and record all fill-ups on long term vehicles and his personal vehicle he you-tubes about. Really easy with Fuelly or a spreadsheet if you're opposed to promoting Fuelly. This would eliminate the inherent inaccuracy of single fill variations. I've tracked every litre going into my truck and am certain it is optimistically lying to me.
Woah, not all can but I try not to go below 1/2 tank. I know it probably works out to be the same but I'd pass out if I saw 124 on a gas pump😵. I didn't know that they were still making hybrids that used premium. I knew early on in the 2010s that was used but I thought everyone moved over to regular because whats the savings when you have to use premium.
As Andre said, the truck is OK with regular. He didn't provide a good explanation for why he uses premium.
Hey Andre, Ive been looking but can't find it. Which video covers the headlight bulb change you made. I have a 21 XL Powerboost and love it
I have a question about the powerboost. I am about to purchase one and have read that Consumer Reports rated this as unreliable. Would you recommend and did you have any transmission or any other issues? Thank you in advance!
I would like to see theses test driving at 60-65 mph vs 70-75mph. Some trucks do better at 60mph and some at 70+. I had a 6.4L Power wagon that was better at 75 mph but my Tundra is best at 60-65mph.
I just bought one. Love it!
Great video’s Andre
Was a little surprised that the mpg was that low. My 21 4x4 ecodiesel (got it the same time as you) w/ 3.91 rear is getting 22.4mpg and I drive over the speed limit. If I didn't idle the truck so much warming it up and on my lunch breaks I would be in the 24-25mpg range.
I have an 2018 F150 5.0 liter. I pulled a 6200 lbs trailer and cargo 854 mile highway trip and got 15.5 mpg on 87 octane as per the computer and as calculated. It was a 13 hour summer trip with hills and I never came close to overheating. On the way back with the empty 2400 lbs trailer I got 22.2 mpg.
Andre, spaciba for that long term update! I have an 18 F-150 3.5 ecoboost with 3:21 gear ratio, and I love this vehicle. I live in Wyoming, so it is all open road and small town driving. Mine usually get's 20.5 to 21.5 on the highway depending on wind and whether It's winter or summer gas. I usually get @ 19 around town. I was really interested in what you were getting, as my highway mileage is almost the same as you get. I never use premium, always 87 octane. I don't tow much, but the one time I drove to Longmont and picked up a 22' camper trailer, I only got @ 8mpg going back to Casper with the usual wind. So I have been wondering about upgrading to a new truck in the next year or two, but I can't see much advantage to the powerboost for me in terms of mileage and greater cost to have it. And I can't see any advantage to the new hybrid Toyota as far as mileage is concerned either. Again, spaciba for that long term update.
Interestingly, Tommy's commercials at the beginning of the video have been VERY informative! I've been saving many of these clips so I can remember to buy these quite handy truck accessories --- Keep using this beginning-of-vide- accessories information format --- I like it!
Please do add a PRICE though (specify US Dollars and Canadian dollars too!) in a lower right hand corner caption!
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Honestly, you would save more money just using 87 octane which is what the truck is designed to use. 91 octane is a waste especially at high altitudes.
Thank You for this video. This is the truck I want to order. Do you have a link for all the videos just on this truck? Thank You again.
Thanks for the common sense honest review. If you need the functionality, it makes sense for sure. But many people don't simply buy what they need. They buy what they want/like. Maybe to convey an image. Vehicle purchases are often about emotion. If I were to get the hybrid, and I probably would (a majority of my driving is in urban areas), it makes sense to get the 7.2kW inverter for as cheap as it is.
Andre I have a 2021 powerboost limited have a question for you I want to know if I install Roush could air intake will that help with mpg is it worth installing this for the price of 430 dollars will it make a big difference or a wast of money
Thanks for sharing. I think if I needed a truck I would get exactly the same.
Thanks for all your detailed videos on your channel.
I’m wondering how your altitude affects your numbers? If you were driving at sea level in the same manners, you think you’d get any better fuel numbers?
Modern vehicles (everything in the last 20+ years) that correct fuel mixture accurately will tend to get better fuel economy at high altitude since there's less air resistance.
Bought a used 2wd crew 2019 5.0l STX f150 for under 36k with only 20k miles a few months ago. I get 24 mpg on highway with towing mirrors and about 20 mpg in town in eco mode with auto start stop turned off (I hate auto start-stop).
Towing my 4k lb travel trailer I get 11.8 mpg on average. I was looking to order a powerboost but chip shortages had me shop used and I couldn’t pass up the deal I got on the 5.0l I’ve had no typical 5.0 issues oil level is steady, etc. only upgrade I did was a hellwig front sway bar so far and dealer installed OEM tow mirrors for me.
I saved a lot of money not buying new and I don’t have to worry about new technology issues of the hybrid system.
I wonder what would be the price difference of this vs equally capable (real life range with towing) EV?
That's what I get on my 2.7t f150, I do alot of highway driving on my commute.
Andre, I like your truck. It’s simple, but has everything you could really need and want in a truck. 21mpg seems solid for something that size. That’s an expensive fill up, but it’s getting that way for everyone and every vehicle. My suv has a 24.5 gallon tank and needs premium too. It’s not too cheap to fill. Even a half tank is still $55-60. Fortunately, I get 24mpg on the highway. It’s a 2015 MB ML350 and actually gets pretty good gas mileage for the power it makes. I’m always impressed with it, considering how quick it is and for weighing in at 5,000 pounds with just me inside and a full tank. I still think you’re doing pretty good with the F150.
As Andre said, the truck is rated with regular and doesn't need premium... Not sure why he runs it.
I am not in need of a pickup anymore. However, I have a couple friends that just bought NEW F150s and neither bought the Hybrids because of $ and availability. 1 bought the 2.7 Liter and she adores it.(4x4) And the other bought the 3.5. (FX4) He has no feelings about it 1 way or another. Other than he needed a pick up truck. MPG between the 2 seems very comparable to each other. IF I were to need a work truck, I would lean towards what you have tho.
I have a 2018 F-150 4x4 Lariat diesel. I average ~20 in the winter and ~26 in the summer in mixed driving.
This truck is a puzzle wrapped up in an enigma. Like most trucks it does some things very well and somethings not so well. I was very excited when the truck came out, I thought it was the perfect vehicle. But my GMC gets the kind of gas mileage, in fact it’s a little better. I just love the idea of a generator pack in the back. What I don’t like the price.
Better in the city? That's the only place where a hybrid can have an advantage.
Andre how does it compare to the GM 3.0 diesel in mpg? About the same MSRP.
I would like to see what mpg is with 33" tires.
Curious why your using premium fuel?
Do you guys think Ford will come out with a plug in hybrid, or keep the lightning/full gas options only? Not interested in an old school hybrid.
Got 29 mpg in 2H with my recently purchased F150 Powerboost on a 15 mile trip. Also saw 6.3 pure electric miles on a 20 mile trip back from the dealer. Insane numbers. If this thing hits the reliability marker for me, I am getting another Ford next.
Hello Andre
I am interested in this truck I am considering purchasing one soon(XLT) What tow packages did you order I see that they offer two
Thanks keep up the great work
There are a load of benefits to the hybrid IMHO mileage, 7.2 kw inverter for campers, inverter to provide emergency backup power for home or cabin, inverter for tailgating or remote construction work also reduced emissions. I know manufactures usually have it on options sheet would be nice to see comparisons made of how many tones co2. Awesome videos 👍😀
I get 28 to 32mpgs on my 80 mile drive to work every day, all highway, and 80 miles home.
This week I got 1,007.4 miles to my one 30.6gal tank.
That's pretty good for city driving. My 2021 Ford F-150 EcoBoost 3.5 not hybrid gets about 22 on the highway and 19 in the city.
Hello, can you electrically fold those mirror? I have them installed on my xlt but I can only adjust the mirror but can’t fold or extend
Yes, these mirrors have a power folding feature on more expensive trim levels or packages. My XL mirrors are also manually folding.
Love! Your truck Andrea! But I'm getting the 5.0l with my xl!
Based on those numbers, it seems like a perfect choice for a city dweller. Even when I get on the highway here in Houston, it’s more like stop and go lol.
OUCHHH!!! That fill up was a killer!
How much is it to replace powerboost hybrid battery pack?
I would like to see the same results for an F150 super cab with 8 foot box, 5.0 V8, 4x4 and heavy duty payload/trailer package?
Being rated for 87 octane, what is making you use premium fuel?
You are right. I was stunned to find this out in my thermodynamics class in college that higher octane gas does you no good if the design of the engine can handle lower octane. From what I understand you only need high octane when you have an engine with high compression ratio. The gas explodes near the end of the compression stroke and to avoid that you use higher octane gas, without it you get engine knocking. I never bought premium after that and I avoid cars that require it.
87 gas is good. Yah 91 waste of money.
Ikr..he should use 87..premium is a myth on better mpg..the engine is designed for it and no more
Higher octane fuel in the Ford Ecoboost engines allows for more spark advance, resulting in more power, and in the case of my 2017 Ford Expedition, slightly better fuel economy but not much better.
I got 23mph with my 3.5 ecoboost on the highway to NC. I have the max tow package, 12,700 tow, and 2030 payload with my configuration.
would love to see the same hybrid tech built with the 2.7 ecoboost. Few will admit it but not everyone needs the full capability that the powerboost system currently offers. some would like to maximize range towing lighter and unloaded. also, i would have to assume that the 'generator mode' time would be increased with the 2.7 since its less output
Andre or anyone with a hybrid truck: I spend a lot of time idling my truck with the AC/heat on because I use it as an office. This kills my gas mileage of course. My question is, does a hybrid truck get better idle mpg? Especially with the ac/heat running? Hybrid might be a great switch for me if so. Especially since I have a 2019 Tundra. She thirsty.
Yes much better idle! Because most of the time the gas engine is OFF
Yes, please do not think the Powerboost will save you lots of money!
(because I want demand to go down so I can get one to power off-road camp sites! Lol)
Does 5 Star have a economy tune for the Powerboost?
Do you have the pro-power on board?
I have a 2021 5.0 same setup. Mine says 21.3 average right now. I have 16,000 miles on it. Thats weekend driving in gravel hills and back and forth to work
Someone review the city mpg with 4-800 lbs. payload please!? Would love to see if the hybrid electric only is useable while loaded?
Does this model come equipped with the ZF still?
Do you think the mpg you are getting offsets the higher cost of a hybrid? I have the 3.5EB and I drive 80 miles daily 90% highway with a steep incline on one half of the trip. I get about 20 mpg per the truck as well but am not driving 75 mph
The answer is no it does not, the ROI of 5k extra for the premium powertrain would take 15+ years
Great video and very important information
They only think that i think would be important to mention y the power because is not the same looking for a truck to be efficient on fuel but in this case is also very powerful, i think the only faster truck you have test is the TRX and that gets about 9mpg city, so in with this power train you don’t have to do to much concessions Power VS Efficiency.
How are you getting such bad mpg? My 2014 silverado 5.3 v8 averages 18mpg with highway being 23 or 24.
Does anyone know if the gas door is a pressurized system?
I have almost the same truck but with the regular 3.5ecoboost I get like 17.5-18.5mpg that hybrids really cool but I got a good deal so I can’t complain
Andrey over in Thornton? I live in the area haha. Rock on 🤘🏻 as always great content. Been a subscriber for years.
Yes - Thornton, Colorado!
@@TFLtruck I also fuel up at the same King Soopers fuel station. Very cool! Keep up the great content! Truck stuff from Andrey is my personal favorite. 🤘🏻