Panasonic GX9 Hands-On Field Test (In the Yukon!)
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- Panasonic's GX8 was a capable camera that was hampered by a bulky design and high price. The latest iteration is smaller, lighter, less expensive and borrows a lot of features from the GX85. Chris Niccolls went to the beautiful Yukon courtesy of Travel Yukon and Panasonic to see how the GX9 can function as a travel camera.
Panasonic GX9: www.thecameras...
Thanks to Travel Yukon
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Special thanks to Derek Crowe, Trisha Gillings and the First Light Image Festival!
Shot by Derek Crowe, Trisha Gillings and Jordan Drake
Shot on the Panasonic GH5
The GX9 is actually the successor of the GX80/85, which in turn was the successor of the GX7. In Japan they are named GX7 - GX7 mkII - GX7 mkIII. This should explain a lot.
So GX8 is much better, right
For reference for non-Canadians, the Yukon is right beside Alaska
I went to the Yukon for a few hours once...and got some maple cookies. Yum yum
Thanks for that.
I appreciate you information.
Firstly, love you guys, love your videos, and very glad you'll still be around on DPReview!
I wanted to say though that I find it a bit frustrating when noteworthy reviewers like you guys and the Northrups always mention the "lack" of a flip out screen as seemingly a negative. There are a lot of people who don't want the screen to flip out to the side, and it seems like a lot of reviewers either don't understand that, or simply tout their opinions on it as gospel. I realize everything is subjective and you will like what you like, but you (and a select group of others) I think probably have the ears and eyes of camera manufacturers, and often cause them to pause and think about/consider changes to body styles, which is concerning in some instances.
As a street photographer who does literally zero video, the tiltable screen is ideal. Flip out screens make the camera take up a larger footprint and make a camera more obvious in use. If I wanted a video camera, I'd buy a video camera. I realize that today, with vlogging blowing up and tons of people transitioning to/adding video into their skillset, that a flip out screen makes sense in a lot of cases/on a lot of cameras. But that doesn't mean it's better, or that everyone wants one or should want one, or that every camera should have one.
For me the GX9/GX85 cameras are the ultimate street cameras because of their size, form factor, weight, lens selection AND importantly because they have a tiltable screen and NOT a flip out screen.
Anyway, my two cents. I hope you guys have a smooth transition to DPReview, and I look forward to many years of videos from you!
So, very, true! I hate the flip out screen for photography!
This comment was written 4 years ago and it’s still very much true. I respect that CZcamsrs obviously prefer a flip-out screen, but they all act as if that’s the only right preference (I’ve seen some with a rating system literally deduct points for that!) when it’s just a subjective thing and should be treated as such. A flip out screen is really annoying for many people who don’t want to shoot selfies and both systems are valid. It worries me that the reviewers with so much influence and connections to the camera industry push this system that’s only useful to them but not to most consumers who use cameras the standard way - while being behind it.
Thank you. It was a very interesting and informative video presentation. I use muy GX9 most of the time with the Lumix/Leice 15mm 1.7 lens for street photography in and around New York City. You guys never cease to help me learn more about the cameras I buy and their features. I appreciate your help. Please keep up the great reviews you do. I also would love to travel to Calgary and the Yukon. Well done, Bravo!
For me, these would be so much more informative filmed on the camera being reviewed.
Got mine 3 years after that video. Took me a while to figure out it was not a smaller G9. Now I am really happy with the camera. Love it, use it.
It sure is mostly a stills camera. The tilting EVF is a great idea. The EVF with Panasonic larger eyecup for the GX9 is really cumfortable despite being 16:9. Great pictures. And it now has Cine-D after a firmware update.
i have had the GX8 for a while now (your review actually helped me buy it) and since using the vertical EVF, being tall, i love it. Mandatory feature!!
Thanks for joining us for the festival, Chris. Glad you had a great visit and hope you can make it back up again soon!
Oh my goodness - I've lived in the Yukon since '75 and watch your videos regularly. I had no idea you were visiting Whitehorse. Plus, you hit some of my favourite spots - Schwatka Lake Trails, Silver City, Kluane Lake, Haines Junction... Oh well. Glad you enjoyed the trip.
just checked the 8-year-old GX1 review and come here, time flies!
Oh wow i need to visit parts of Canada soon Yukon looks absolutely stunning
Bought one. I like it. I also prefer the tilting screen. Makes sense in keeping the camera as compact as possible in use. It's a little crampy adjusting the exposure comp. wheel with the other knob stacked on top of it. I like the control locations on the GX8 better but I wanted the GX9 because It's smaller.
I don't understand why nobody sees the functionality of the tilting EVF for handheld video shooting like a classic camcorder. I truly miss that for use in bright light and the three point stability.
peterzpictstube agreed. I remember going through a stage of not purchasing cameras that no longer had this for many years.
@@rjkral I love my GX7 for this feature...no firmware updates is a bit shite though
Thanks, Chris; you guys continue to make my life just a little easier.
Panasonic naming is totally weird anyway. At least in Japan they're consistent: the GX85 was the "GX7 Mark II" and the GX9 is the "GX7 Mark III", denoting the lineage.
In the GX80/85 review you guys spent a lot of time on the sensor and anti-alias filter compared to the GX8, and also about the buffer rate. The GX9 has improved in all these categories, but you don't mention them at all. It would be awesome to see those comparison shots you had in the previous video redone here. I'm surprised you don't have more praise for this camera given that you liked the previous one so much, and this has improved on much of it, the buffer and fps in particular. This seems like the best, up-to-date rangefinder street/travel camera, but one wouldn't know it from the review.
i remember when the GX line was TOP of the line from Panasonic. i LOVED my GX7 back when i had it. ALSO very upset that they got rid of the GM line. i never owned the GM1 or GM5 but always wanted one.
this looks like a nice camera but totally not worth buying at the moment IMO. you can pick up a used GX85 body on fredmiranda for $400 usd. until these start hitting the used market and you can pick one up for say 600. i say get a GX85.
Great gentlemen as usual.. Not interested in the camera just tuning in because you guys rock. Missing your live videos from the store..
Excellent review, I wish you could have done more on the photo festival after going all that way!
If only Panasonic had named this camera the GX90/95, we would be taking a very different view of it's size, spec' and price. I can only think that the GX80/85 might be quietly discontinued, and a more pro' spec' GX10 is released as a G9 in a 'rangefinder' styled body. And that will be very nice!
im still rocking my GX7!!
Does it never stop snowing there,lovely sunny day here in S.E. Queensland ,Australia. Chris and Jordan, come and visit us, so many Aussies visit Canada it is about time you came here.
Jordan there is Cinelike D and Cinelike V if you update the firmware to 1.1. I just did it without any problems. Check it out.
A little bit of the original music. Been a while. Love that stuff.
Bought this to replace my bulky Nikon DSLRs (which I still have) for travel. I also bought a DJI Osmo Action 4 specifically for video. I'll be taking both with me on my forthcoming trip to the Far East.
The first photographic equipment to invest on is a pair of slip-resistance boots/shoes. I bought a pair of water-proof military boots and on the first day of wearing them I slip backward outside a shopping mall. It was a rainy day and my backpack took the hit. Be carefull, remember what happened to Vivian Maier?
Dont know why we have all these confusing numbers, the lineage is very clear GX7, GX80 (GX7MkII as its called in Japan) then GX9 (GX7MkIII). I absolutely loved the GX7 but wanted weather sealing, shock proof shutter and filterless 20MP. Well we got the GX8 and what a disappointment, it was huge, had a fold out fully articulated screen which I hate (I am not swinging anything out on the street it isnt discrete he he ), still had a filter, still had the rubbish mechanical shutter but did have weather sealing; it was no upgrade to the GX7 it was a new line. So I held my breath while Panasonic brought out three flagship DSLR styled models, sigh. So, I have just upgraded to the GX9 as its clear that is the best I will get anytime soon. It ticks all my boxes except weather sealing but, I realise weather sealing is useless to me as there are no weatherproof standard primes so no deal break. Only thing I dont like is the Exp Comp dial which I have disabled so that I set this function like I do on my GX7; I kept jogging it and messing with the exposure, its something I wish they had left on the GX8 and buried. So, after using the GX9 for a few days I am loving it. I have odered the extension grip for use with my 14-140mm lens on nature rambles; its clearly not needed with my 17mm, 25mm and 45mm primes. I could leave it on and charge and upload photos via USB so thats OK. So I am a satisfied bunny, this is a perfect compliment to my Leica T and if its raining I just take my Olympus TG-3 Tough tucked into my bag's back pocket ;-)
As a left eye shooter the vertical evf is great, just click it up once and I'm no longer changing the focus point with my nose 😂
What a let down for video. Great review- nice work chaps!
C'mon Panasonic, I want my LX200. The longer this takes, the more I'm drawn to the A6500.
The Technoclast it seems I’m not alone pleading for the LX200. Leaf shutter, hot shoe, filter thread, tilt screen, cinelike d, auto ISO in full manual mode, IBIS... I will continue to be patient Panasonic.
By some miracle if it had mic input I'd be really happy too. I know Panasonic don't graze our compacts with that kind of thing, but a guy can dream.
Almost there
Fantastic scenery as ever. If you’re ever in the UK, it would be fantastic to see you shoot in the New Forest!
Ooooh me too, its my local forest as well ;-)
New Forest/Solent/Isle of Wight would be very cool.
Amazing landscapes to review!)
This thing is basically a gx85 with a new 20mp sensor
Not worth the upgrade in my opinion
Daniel Dougan the gx9 has no mic jack sadly
Chi Dat Oh yeah you're right...I should have kept watching.
Chi Dat, agreed!
Chi Dat it’s not a video camera
@13:45 There. Spot on. This is the most misleading camera model name ever. As a GX8 shooter I was really looking forward to the GX9. Finally no more shutter shock and no AA filter anymore. And maybe some faster AF. But boy was I in for a disappointment.
I'd have the shutter shock of the GX8 over the crappy features and ergonomics of the GX9 any day. For me the size of the GX8 is perfect. Really comfy to hold even with longer lenses and never accidentally touching dials I don't want to. Also the flip out screen is something I use an awful lot and really don't want to miss. And what about the superb EVF of the GX8. No more snappy and OLED but laggy and LCD in the GX9.
I really don't understand what Panasonic was thinking. If people want a compact decent travel camera they already had their GX85. Maybe I'm missing the point of this camera but to me it looks a lot like an overpriced GX85 or an crippled GX8.
Did you try updating to GX8 latest firmware to remedy the shuttershock?
The camera looks a bit shitty, mostly if compared to the fuji xe3, but the backdrop is SPECTACULAR! I want more like this.
Hi, loved all your CZcams reviews on cameras. After going through your videos on the Panasonic GX 8, 80/85 and 9 multiple times, I am still at a loss to decide on buying one of these. The GX8 seemed ideal with weather sealing and the 12-35 f/2.8 lens but with risk of shutter shock, the 80/85 with a dual lens package, the GX9 with the most advance shooting features... What would you recommend now in 2020, as these are quite a few years old now? Thanks a million... I am generally a still photographer enthusiast for city street scenes and family travel photos emphasis, have Nikon D7100 and quite a few lenses.. Nic
This is not filmed by Jordan?! Footage still good!
Chris keeps saying things about his physical shape. I bet you are secretly a Olympic gymnast
Please compare it to the GX85, because the GX8 still woops ass to this GX90 camera.
I agree about the GX8! Why don't they just make image stabilization available for 4K, no anti alias, and put on a proper microphone in jack? They would have the best iteration of the GX line yet! They keep trying to fix something that ain't broken!
People keep complaining about not fully articulating screens, but for photography the tilting screen is actually way better. You don't have to flip it out to tilt it for a low shot. So it's easier and faster to tilt the screen and you don't have it stand out on the side of the camera. I just LOVE my GX80 and only a significantly better AF system would tempt me to upgrade.
"for photography the tilting screen is actually way better" -- No, it isn't.
"it's easier and faster to tilt the screen" -- No, it isn't. Please try a camera with a flipout screen. I had both systems, tilty stuff is way slower and clumsier to use.
mountainhobo I do have both and I still prefer the tilting screen. I really hate how the camera gets bigger by flipping out the screen.
I prefer the flip out. Yes, you have to flip it out to angle it up or down, but it also makes extremely low vertical shots much easier to get. Can't do that with the tilt screen.
Kevan B You're right, that is an inconvenience. I like Fuji's approach with the X-T2 in this regard.
You're wrong. Sorry. Flip out tilting screen like found on Canon 80d allows for low and high angle shooting in portrait orientation. Thus, allowing for more creativity in shot composition. There is no argument against this...flip out tilt screen is the best setup for photography.
Last review of Chris and Jordan on camera store CZcams channel. After that video the channel stopped to have many new subscribers and not as many views for each video as before.
The rotating screen is a matter of taste.How many adults take selfies with a good camera?If you want to blog, then buy another camera. For photography this screen is much better.Likewise , the viewfinder is useful in bright sunshine- as you said.
I'm sticking with my GX8 for the weather-sealing.
Sadly it's like an update of GX7 & GX85, and can't vlog with selfie screen & mic input like GX8, otherwise I will get it. Maybe G85 suits me a bit more (except 16MP vs 20MP for still shooting).
So are you guys basically moving this show to DP Review?
Canada has the benefit of beautiful locations
hello guys the dual IS system from the GX9 is working also for videos.
The GX8 didn't have the double stabilization in video only in still. Is it the same for this camera? Great job and great videos
Haha those composite shots give me a bad reaction, I'm immediately reminded of bad advertising designs.
Thanks for the video!
Can it send a clean signal through the HDMI port?
Hugh Brownstone says yes, a good feed for an Atomos Ninja with a shotgun mic ;-)
They seriously need to update this camera with similar design to answer Fuji X100 series.
It already similar, what can be more similar?
I really want to visit that area.
between this and g85,damn i still can't choose.
Beautiful country
OMG, Chris is just beautiful.
Jordan, could you estimate the GX9's 4k video crop, compared to the GX85?
Hey guys I love your videos! Was just wondering about the 1080p quality on the gx9? The gx85 seems to have mushy 1080p but good 4K and I was wondering if Panasonic fixed the 1080p on the gx9 to match other Panasonic cameras like the g7 and g85?
super shaky footage, is it from GH5s? lol
just a loooooong lens
actually the wide shot is pretty unstable too, reminds me of myself using a 600-1000mm lens
Not Jordan. :-)
this episode, brought to you by J.Jordan Abrams
This was their last show on the channel...
If they would have added a bigger EVF and kept the fully articulating screen, it maybe would make sense - But that way its just a minor upgraded GX80/81/85 ...
I clicked "like" for the beautiful scenery, not the camera. If I had to choose between the GX85 and the GX9, I'd choose the GX85 which I've seen today on sale for under $700 including both the 12-32mm and 45-150mm lenses. The GX9 is $1000.00 with the 12-60 mm lens.
With the choices available today, I will not be buying either camera!
OK, maybe you can answer this. I have asked all over the Internet, forums, experts, Lumix Canada, etc. and no one has given an answer. How to you use the "Steps" settings when shooting focus bracketing? How would you set it for macro vs landscape? What would the differences be with short focal length vs long focal length? Thanks in advance.
I love the Gx8 I was looking forward to a upgrade the Gx9 is no upgrade.
Hello Chris, what would be the next camera up form this that would fix all of your concerns?
I am looking for a compact camera to take with me while riding on my bicycle.
Below is the criteria that I would like it to have.
I already have a high end camera (Nikon D800E & Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II Lens).
1) 20.1MP
2) Ability to shoot in RAW
3) Viewfinder
4) Large grip a plus
5) Zoom Lens
6) Removable lens not needed
7) Video not needed
8) Weather sealed a plus.
Just picked up the GX-9 with 12-32 (used) for CHF 320 (US$ 355), in excellent condition. Can't wait to shoot with this camera, as I been using the trusty EM-10 for years.
It does have cineplex D, do your research. Very few users would vlog because we are modest and not show offs!
G85 is exactly the same price, do you think that GX9 has better video autofocus and Image Quality than G85? It’s a big dilemma for me. Thank you!
How about a review of that pack, never heard of it.
Camera is more expensive than the G85 in Australia, cant see it doing too well
Am I the only person who likes these tilty screen???? Im sick of all youtubes say they want an articulating screen. Not everyone is a vlogger. LOL These are more discreet for street photography
I absolutely agree with you. If I was a video guy, yes articulating screens all day. But this style of camera is made for stills-shooting primarily and tilt screens are MUCH better for street especially.
Same opinion here. I sold my g85 and kept my gx85 because I prefer tilt to flippy for stills.
Err no, it's more discreet to be able to flip the screen around and use viewfinder. But seeing as the viewfinder is a bit of a let-down on this compared to the GX8, I guess I understand.
I also like the tilty screen alot, very prractical when you Shooting in low angles. I also can live with that, that it has no mic Input i mostly whould use it mainly for photos and not Videos.
It's important to have smaller M4/3 gear on trips like this, especially if you need to outrun your cameraman...from a Grizzly.
Nice views, need to travel there. But please do not change your start music. The one you had is the best of all. ;-)
Which camera would be suitable for a beginner who only is going to use a camera while travelling from time to time?
Ok, this is the camera for me. It's really a successor to the GX7 - a camera I loved and I regretted moving to the GX8. This is Panasonic's street photography camera IMHO, and that's why video is less important. You don't want a fully articulating screen - you draw attention to yourself. I hated the GX8 - the articulated screen, it was bigger than it needed to be, and it suffered shutter shock. This is what the GX8 should have been. But I do have questions. Is it the same sensor as the GH5, or simply the same as the GX8's (which would bleach colour really quickly as you raised the ISO). Low light (in m43 terms) in a small package is important to me - this also has great form factor as a travel camera, and I want to be able to photograph indoors.
Well if you want, I'll swap a GX7 for your GX8.
Very weird field test for a camera more suited for Street Photogtaphy.. Should've used a G9 instead.
I would be all over these little compact Panasonic cameras if it had phase detection autofocus and an articulating screen. Until then...
Love the bgm
Does the GX9 allow for shooting with Sirui anamorphic lenses? Are there any desqueeze option on board?
Sequence Composition feature too which you can't get in the G9.
if i ask which camera's image quality is better between lumix gx 9 & Fuji X-t20?
Awesome review, very beautiful scenery.
《《 12:18 for video review》》
If it was anything like the GX85, then I will be glad to skip this camera too. I sold the GX85 as I didn't like the controls, it was surprisingly heavy, and the battery life was utterly atrocious. I actually ended up with a Sony a6000 and I am amazed at how light it is while still fitting my needs (don't need 4k). Granted the battery life in these mirrorless cameras are not that great, but the Sony lasted at least twice as long.
7:30 Get a Fujifilm GFX with the tilt viewfinder accessory. 👌
I was in White Horse in 1959
Guys, hope you'll make a review on the canon sx740 hs
hi. want to ask, about the weather sealing, if i shoot under sizzling rain/light rain with this camera, will the camera spoiled?
I am little confused to buy between Fuji X-t20 & Lumix Gx 9, plz give me your valuable suggestion, I do only still photography & I don't do video work & I already have Canon 5d mark iv, but I am looking retro look smaller camera body with best quality images....one side fuji X t20 in which we get 18-55 F/2.8-4 lens (3 times zoom only, but better for low light) & in another side Lumix GX9, which have 12-60mm F/3.5-5.6 (5 times zoom)...so what do you think which one will give better image quality pictures with their kit lens,
It's the camera specially for story telling or documentary because small and so quick. Never irritates people when you are working at streets...strongly recommended using with 14mm f2.5, means that camera will disappear in your hands.
Chris is this your GM5 upgrade?
Is the evf equal to Gm5 or better? The Gm5 has similar tearing.
I know its bigger than Gm5, but doesn't seem by much.
David Bateman if you want an upgrade from GM5, GX9 won't disappoint you. Just do expect anything about video capability if you need.
Hi can you comment on the skin tone of GX9? Is it improved compared to previous models?
It is a mirroless camera, not a compact camera. Compact cameras have fixed lenses.
Hi, thecamerastore. can you make a review about the new JVC camcorder 4K? Everio GZ-RY980
Christicles again?
Good review. The GX9 is actually a bit heavier than the GX85; 450g vs 426g (with SD card and battery). Source: Panasonic.com. The GX8 is 487g by the way. I wish these high quality rangefinder-style cameras with relatively small sensors were even a bit lighter than they typically are these days.
Where is leica tl2 hands on, field test? Please do it.
Nice Haircut Chris.. :p
Anyone have the way to not move focus point with my face when looking trough view finder with left eye?
You lost me at no weather sealing. That’s a deal breaker for me
I wanted to finish this video but the opening shot gave me motion sickness
The new intro music is kinda offputting, guys.
What was the name of that bag Chris?
The body is very similar to the Sony Alpha APS-C series... damn
could u makes slowmotion with these camera as well gx85 ?
What is that background noise at 9:28?