Thiamine: A UNIVERSAL "Stress Protectant" Across The Natural World (Detailed Version)
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- Thiamine (Vitamin B1) is a universal "anti-stress" molecule, and quite unique as a B vitamin
Remarkably, it serves as one of the FIRST and primary defenses against stress (of any kind) in plants, bacteria, fungi, and throughout the animal kingdom. This should tell you something.
In nature: Thiamine = stress resistance
When a human cell is hypoxic (deficient in oxygen), it rapidly uptakes thiamine. In fact, low thiamine and low oxygen evoke very similar (if not equivalent) effects on cell metabolism. They are almost synonymous.
In fact, by giving animals or isolated cells very high amounts of thiamine BEFORE exposure to an injury, an infection, or a toxin, it can largely protect the cell from injury (and in some cases, reverse the injury).
When a plant cell senses danger, it rapidly uptakes thiamine also. Genes are transcribed which upregulate the activity of thiamine-dependent enzymes. Thiamine is used as an activator to promote resistance against many forms of disease.
Bacteria accumulate different forms of thiamine, and increase the amount that they make in anticipation of danger. Thiamine is used as a danger signal, or "alarmone".
I am working on a new video/lecture, which looks at how thiamine is used by living organisms as a "stress signalling molecule" (including in humans), and is rapidly used up as a means adapting to increased demands placed on the cell.
Interestingly, many of these functions appear independent of thiamine's role in energy metabolism. Non-coenzyme/signalling/genetic effects of thiamine appear to play a significant role in mobilizing protective responses.
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#thiamine #vitaminb1 #stress #mitochondria
I am a brand new physician and I have been using your videos for the last few weeks to treat what has obviously been a subclinical thiamine deficiency. I wanna say thank you for all the people you’ve helped and all the people you will help.
I suspect you are on the path to being a great physician. Hats off to you for seeking to keep your education growing beyond schooling and the standard, non-nutritional medical paradigm. Best wishes for a prosperous career and many healthy patients.
O am am Osteopath. AM trying to spread the word. Derek lonsdale book is incredible
Medicine is great for trauma situations but unfortunately you are in a very toxic Globalist agenda unknowingly. You will be threatened and thrown out of practice if you tell the truth and want to really help your patients with what really works not just take pills that do what? maybe hide what is really going on. The body is body and soul completely and that's how people should be treated as one special and wonderfully made human being. Look at nature and you will get many answers.
I wish all doctors were open to nutrtion like you@
God bless you and your path and learn when to take a stand and when to fly under the radar and REALLY help others in your pursuit of treatments beyond big pharma ... as I have found, should be LAST resort... not 1st... but I'm in the minority in a sea of the indoctrinated
Being the biggest stress bomb on earth, and constantly in fight mode, I must say B1 and Mg have helped me tremendously in regulating my nervous system.
I bet it's a great treatment for dementia too. You hear about a ketogenic diet, and coconut oil, but don't leave out thiamine.
I am constantly in fight mode and cannot sleep. I get maybe 2 hours a night. What are your doses of each and types of magnesium and b1 ? Thanks
Which Mg has been the best for you? 🙏
@@nathaliyacortez6142 Mg GLYCINATE.......Hands down.......
What dosage and form of B1? Thiamax or TTFD?
I have had ME/CFS for years and these videos and B1 os the Only thing that has made a significant difference and helped me eliminate crashes and pain and exhaustion. I have an almost normal life now so thank you so much!! It hasn't helped with stress but it's been a lifesaver in every other way 😅
You should try colostrum to heal the gut, you probably have poor nutrient absorption
"A half truth always leads to a full lie." -- Dr. Jack Kruse
I think this can applied to this discussion of thiamine because in the world of B vitamins everyone thinks that B12 is the ultimate one. B12 is critical, but apparently if we ignore B1 we fail before B12 is ever invoked.
Agreed
@@leicalove9384 : there is also niacin or B3.
There is a high obsession with B12, I was following that too. But eating too many things with that vitamin, but doesn't work. Taking B complex without B12 made a change.
@@luislizano7025
You mean you take b complex and b12 separately?! Could you please share which brand of B complex and b12 you're taking? Thanks ❤
@@moniryousefian8782 I use a local version by SHERFARMA, is named Complejo B Forte. I am from Peru and this is what you usually find in the drugstores.
I am on day 5 for B1. If things continue like this, 👍. 15 years of chronic illness. I have tried everything, until this. Cheers Elliot. ❤
How are you getting on?
How are you doing now?
How are you doing?
Respond with your success !!!
I assume it would be prudent that before you eat your salad, you shout at it in order to bring it to a state of stress and thereby increase thiamine levels
🤣 Not sure if your trolling or not, but that was funny
I think yelling at my salad might be therapeutic.
10/10 recommend. Yelling at kale cured my stage 17 fingernail cancer.
@Tom WaterFooler Objective Nutrients (EO's company) makes Thiamax, which is apparently most absorbable form and no bad stuff.
Thanks for the laugh .
Hands down, my favorite channel. Keep up the great work
mine too! I know so many people that are excited about using B1, including two people who have Parkinson's, my sisters; and a friend with fibromyalgia, etc. etc.
“Cells under stress suck B1 out of the blood” - probably this can explain how a multicellular organism may become suddenly thiamine-deficient after the stress event. The avalanche effect leads to systemic lack of B1 and consequently to even more stress, inducing a systemic mitochondrial dysfunction.
You have no idea how long I been suffering (8+ years) …I told the useless doctors in ER and clinics that I was suffering all the issues under then sun. But they didn’t help ! All they did was CT scan of my heart and blood work. And results were normal.
Here’s the list.
Breathing issues. Waking up at night gasping for air. Fatigue. Dizziness. Exercise intolerance. Aches and pains. Blurry vision. Headaches. ETC!
A week ago, I randomly started taking B1 and I instantly felt a huge difference in my overall health. More energy, easier breathing, a bit clearer eyesight, deeper sleep, and more. I just can’t believe I have been suffering from Vitamin B1 deficiency all the past years ! As I’ve searched more about vitamin B1, I’m convinced that’s my issues and I’m feeling hopeful that I’m turning around my life from death. The medical system failed us badly. Thanks Elliot for your videos about this subject. I’m learning daily about it.
Had to post again. The whole hypoxia connection is really intriguing. This could have huge implications for those with sleep apnea or impaired breathing.
This is my case and on top of it, doctors, even naturopaths, could not see the obvious, that I am, was... suffering from megaloblastic anemia. All was there on the blood work results ... I am anger...
A very interesting subject! I work with fibromyalgia patients here in Brazil. Just started to building up the doses of some of them. I was doing the same mistake (300 to 900mg of hcl thiamine with no difference). Now will use benfothiamine and larger doses. Hope to come back here soon and tell some good news. Tho we have seen people getting better with a lot of different protocols, I'm sure this one will bring even more life quality. Thank you.
Keep us updated 🙏
How much Benfotiamine are you using?
I'm experimenting now with benfotiamine 1000mg and 300mg ttfd
@natalie That is high, may I ask what you are dealing with?
I am dealing with autonomic nervous system disorder, stuck in extreme fight/flight/fear/anxiety.
Just got my bottle of benfotiamine, starting slow but I think my body needs more.
@@DatDudeDEnd push the like sign so I will be notified or the @ and my name.
Thank you so much Elliot, you have harvested all the research into the amazing Thiamine B1 and skilfully translated it for us, so we can all understand and benefit from this diverse research. Thank you so much, for all your time spent in research. After suffering personally from Fibromyalgia and taking your advice with supplementation of Thiamine, (400mg daily, ) I can confirm it has very quickly transformed my health totally. Nearly back to normal again, all thanks to you!
Which form of B1 do you take?
@@gskyle4822 hi, any form of thiamine will work. I started with 100mg x2 daily but increasing after a couple of days to 200mg x2 daily= 400mg in total but it is safe in higher doses, One of the best forms of B1 is Benfotiamine and I take this form now 300mg, plus 100mg of the usual thiamine daily. I bought this from Amazon. There are a couple of doctors whose advice is good; Elliot Overton at EONutrition produces great informative CZcams videos and he has a website where you can purchase Thiamax and another excellent product TTFD, which is hard to get elsewhere. Please watch his videos. I do take other suppliments; alpha Lapoic acid, L-arginine, Ubiquinol, vit D3, vit K2, magnesium Bisglycinate, Omega 3 fish oil, MCT oil. These all help. Once purchased and in a routine of taking them, it has helped me so much that the cost is offset by not buying so many high carb treats. Good luck, watch Elliot’s videos and also Dr Eric Bergs on Thiamine deficiency. If on other meds check with your doctor first, but Thiamine B1 is usually ok.
So happy for you Gill, can't wait for mine! Thank you for sharing your success!
Thank you for your time and work. You are helping more people than you will ever know.
“B1 deficiency triggers the same mechanisms as hypoxia” - absolutely true. And this is why some people with severe B1 deficiency have a shortness of breath - they literally are starving in ATP, the same effect that occurs in hypoxia. Then comes hyperventilation to compensate that. One interesting observation - people with broken ATP production always have SpO2 99% either due to hyperventilation or lowered O2 consumption by mitochondria. This little observation can be used as a diagnosis helper.
Right. I think there's a reason we need B1 (Riboflavin) to tolerate B2 (Thiamine). Both are important but ignoring the need for Riboflavin is a mistake imo.
@@leslyrae6025 B1 is Thiamine...B2 is Riboflavin
Would normal, healthy individuals not have an O2 reading of 99%? Are they typically lower? Can 99-100% signify healthy lung function? Thanks for any info- clarity!
@@HeatherKirklandHowe Healthy individuals typically have SpO2 in 96-98% range. It is a popular belief that SpO2 >= 99% may signify a healthy lung function but what it really signifies is hyperventilation. Which in turn is often caused by inability to meet ATP production demands at the cellular level. This situation causes a shift in homeostasis control and body starts to compensate unsatisfactory ATP levels: the heart rate increases, the lung function increases as well causing a hyperventilation with SpO2 >= 99%.
(Please note that one must have a pretty precise SpO2 measurement device to catch a borderline difference between a normal function and hyperventilation. In my practice, most pulse oximeters from reputable brands are precise enough to make an approximate conclusion even when they have no fractional digits. You may need to calc arithmetic mean from a lot of frequent measurements though.)
@@kdrum90 thank you so much for the very clear explanation. May I ask what device you use please?
First of all, your ideas about oxalate dumping and thiamine deficiency, create stares of disbelieve in most classicaly educated doctors. Most of them never heard about it. I used to be an engineer at the forefront of technological development, trying to get an edge over the competition. Your struggle is felt and appreciated. This post is helpfull to point medical professionals to. Allthough most limit their education to experiences with their patients, instead of studies and advances in science. Let's see how my nephrologist is capable to divert from "medicate me to the max" to let's see how supplements may make my live more enjoyable.
Having just been taking it for a week I can't believe how much better I'm already starting to feel...thanks for all your hard work, I'm a nurse I am acute surgical ward. I think this information will be very useful there as well..I'll suggest it as appropriate cases arise.😊
I Ava here oh I am so happy for you dear, I can't wait for his B1 to come please wish me luck!
@@avamihalik7531did the B1 help you?
You can try, but your efforts will most likely be shut down.
Let me rephrase that…..your efforts WILL be shut down.
Don’t get disappointed, just expect it.
It’s not you, it’s the system that won’t allow it.
“Because it works”
YOURE ONTO SOMETHING MAN.
I have a testimony percolating on this.
My doctor put me on Thiamine a couple of weeks ago.
The results so far have been profound.
I need time to assess what’s happening to me but it’s goddamn really changing everything and I’ve been in a very bad way for many years now.Early days but I think it’s a game changer this thing.
The treatment of patients with thiamine robbing antibiotics is so devastating and often these patients are already very ill. Hopefully more practitioners will realize this and stop the practice.
My "B-1 Super thrive" has been on a shelf in my shed instead of going in my plant sprays for too long. Thanks for reminding me.
You're in overdrive! So much great content lately. Thank you and Happy New Year. 🥳
"absolutely fascinating" indeed.
Love your work Elliot. It's always insightful and useful due to your detail oriented approach and extensive citation of references.
Brilliant as always !!!
Great video info, Elliot. Thank you very much for sharing
I really appreciate the videos you make, please continue to do what you're doing. It matters.
amazing - bought Lonsdale/Marrs book . Looking forward to your book. Fantastic energy and content you have presenting.
Incredible amount of important information from the get-go! Great video!
This information confirms so many thoughts of mine. Thank you for your work, your passion and bringing it to us in a way we can use it. :)
Thank you for bringing us this valuable information. Appreciate all your videos.
Your content assuming it is correct is really good. You should have a ton of subscribers. Keep it up.
Very informative podcast. Very nicely emphasized the role of Thiamine in stress. Medical community has so far highlighted Vitamins D3 and B12 deficiency. I appreciate you highlighting the importance of Thiamine or Vitamin B1.
thanks!
Thanks, Elliot. Fascinating that plants can make thiamine as needed.
Wow, wow, dude i have to watch this over and over, you came across a good am ammount of papers! Elliot you are great!
I met you because i became obsessed with B1 as well 👌
Thanks for all your work Elliot. Hopefully Saladino gets you on after you helped him with iron overload/SHBG so yo can reach an even larger audience. Top stuff!
can you elaborate?
@@detailed8962 Elliott did a video about an abnormal hormone level. He had commented on one of Saladino's videos, and Saladino followed up on it and it helped to resolve his condition. It had something to do with a typically male hormone and a regulator for it.
@@ji.ol.1490 world of knowledge is awesome
Really enjoy your video, appreciate all hard work you put in compiling all this info. Started thiamine hcl last month, also started my severely brain injured daughter couple weeks ago, excited about what this could mean for her.... keep up the work, Elliott!
Thank you ! This was truly God Sent ! 🙏🙏🙏🙏♥️
Thank you, I will share your research with my Dad, who suffers from Parkinson's.
All the very best!!
Elliot thanks for all your work. Sharing your work with others.
Taking B1 Benfotiamine everyday after tested on the low side on blood results.
You are amazing and thank you…thank you… THANK YOU!! keep on blasting out the light🙏
Gardening tips as well! Im going to experiment on my plants. Don't want them jealous of my own progress on thiamine status. Great info, sir.
Look into bacillus subtilis for your plants
@@carrikartes1403 Very interesting. Might be a good add to my compost pile.
Im gonna water my herbs with a thiamine solution
@@carrikartes1403 what does it do?
@@leicalove9384 it is a probiotic discovered in 1834. The bacteria coats the roots of the plants making them healthier and more resistant to rot and disease.
In animal husbandry it is used to strengthen animals against disease (often given to chickens)
In humans it creates 66 different antibiotics in the gut. In studies it has been shown to eliminate MRSA and balance the microbiome.
It is found in the foods natto (Japanese fermented soybeans)and in spicy red Korean kimchi.
There is only one brand of kombucha that adds it. That is the brand Humm (it is much better tasting than any kombucha I have had and low sugar).
I think having it in your garden would help the plants and you.
Amazing video,Thank you a lot💜🙏
Great video.
Elliot is god sent for us🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I'm suffering from a severe iatrogenic disease. Basically I had nose surgery and there was too much tissue removal/ blood vessel damage. I'm constantly in a state of dysautonomia, feeling suffocation from being unable to breath properly. Megadosing thiamine helps me keep more sane.
Without your convincing information I would not be able to value thiamine as much as now. The devil is in the detail. Thank you very much my friend, you deserve only good✌️
Hi Kevin, I was just wondering what dose you used? Thanks.
@@richardk5246 10-15 gpd
@@kevinklein6872 Am I reading that correctly, 10 to 15 gm per day? Do you have any side effects from such a large dose and how do you split it up or do you take it all in one go? Thanks for the reply by the way, much appreciated.
@@richardk5246 yes exactly. I just take multiple teaspoons a day depending on the level of stress I experience
Sorry for not responding to the other question I forgot to answer it. No I do not experience any side effects :)
Very interesting, especially the hippocampal neurogenesis part. I was watching a video just the other day about stress and trauma, and memory, and how people with PTSD have severely suppressed neurogenesis. Like, you can actually see smaller areas in brain scans. They have more receptors for cortisol, which suppresses neurogenesis, and then goes even further, to kill brain cells. 😬 I'll have to see if I can find that video again and put the link here. I think one "trick" for a more "fluffy" hippocampus (activating neurogenesis) had something to do with starting your day with as little as 10 minutes of exercise...? Nothing big, not a huge amount of exertion, just walking. Lol, ironically, I am having trouble remembering right this second!
I was just thinking, B1 with that simple physical movement first thing in the morning would be a potent combination. Oh, here's the link: czcams.com/video/o-89SYgIwuo/video.html
And I was just talking to my pain doctor today, and she said they are going to be starting some kind of neuroplastic programming group for chronic pain patients (i.e., chronic stress). I don't know anything about it, but she explained that it's something to help remap the brain...? That sounds to me like facilitating neurogenesis, and making new connections, which sounds like the hippocampal area and increasing BDNF. I'm interested to learn more.
Thank you so much for all this info. Very helpful and I appreciate you sharing. Will check out the vid!
I really appreciate your channel
EXTREMELY ‼️
Great Video....ijs
This GUY haven't let up on valuable information 💯🎯🏆
Deep and wide research, so much appreciated🙌🏻🙌🏻
When it comes to food sources, and my low-carb eating, I don't love pork, and tuna is questionable. Still, I eat tuna twice a month. Though I love tahini which is rubbed with oxalates. So, what's left is nutritional yeast, unfortified.
Your content is a novelty. Keep it coming. May you be inspired and energized Elliot, in the upcoming chapter of 2023.✨✨
Bee pollen contains b vitamins(thiamine included)
@@a.macdonald4877 yes, thank you! I forgot to mention, I'm using pollen too.
Excellent~!
I've ordered Thiamax. Have been using T HCL so far, building up. I get the shortness of breath with POTS. I have HEDS, fibro, IC, raynauds and dysautonomia, but the POTS started after vaccination in 2021. Already been lowish oxalates a long time. Key to managing IC. I really appreciate all these videos! I read a lot of Dr Lonsdale's work too. Wish all doctors knew how crucial it is.
You *are* taking magnesium for the Reynauds, aren't you? The thiamine should also help with that, because thiamine makes the need for magnesium more stable, and less of a bottomless pit.
How is it going? I also got POTS and so much more stuff after my vaccine in july21. My osteopath testet my urin Im lacking B1 and B6 and other vitamins. Though Ive taking so many vitamins etc for 18 month. So Im thinking trying B1 🤞🏼
Do you have an update? I have all of the same things you mentioned exactly and just ordered Thiamax myself.
WoW!!
Thank you again.
Yes! Please do a video with Dr Berg! Or Ken Berry or Pradip Jamnadas!!
I got Derek lonsdale book! Am so excited
Thank you Eliot
Near the end of the video is mention of a forthcoming book. Sign me up! I want a copy for myself and if possible more copies for my friends. In 2021 I was in intensive care for two weeks and I am convinced I became vitamin deficient during that period of time. I hope the book has a ton of citations to research publications, because SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE!!!
thousands of citations
@@EONutrition ❤❤❤
@@EONutrition can you do a video about: *B1/Thismine = purity? Source/made from?
In regards to allergies and sensitivity/intolerance to brands/types of B1/thiamine?
For example:
Thiamine biosynthesis occurs in bacteria, some protozoans, plants, and fungi. The thiazole and pyrimidine moieties are biosynthesized separately and are then combined to form ThMP by the action of thiamine-phosphate synthase.
&
Synthetic Vitamin B1 - Thiamine mononitrate or thiamine hydrochloride is made from coal tar, ammonia, acetone, and hydrochloric acid. It is much less absorbable since it isn't bound to phosphate.
@@EONutrition can you do a video on all the Seafoods & others that contain *thiaminASE* ? So many in the carnivore community promote various sardines, etc that are HIGH in *thiaminASE*
..leading to further illness?
Very impressive thiamine coverage 👍
Elliot, can you do a video just listing all the symptoms and diseases that your patients have had success combating on high dose Thiamine?
Dem tabs... Looks like when I do my reaserch xD Great infromation regarding how plants are similar to animals. We are all trying to survive.
Elliot, I see Dr Berg has just been speaking about Thiamine. I always drop your name on that channel as you are a (if not the) leading authority on this. Perhaps you could get in touch with Dr Berg and do an interview. You have so much more to add to what he's currently saying. Just a thought.
Yeah Dr Berg is one of the few others who focuses a lot on thiamine. It would be awesome to speak with him on this subject, but I think he is a busy guy and is extremely popular. My following is minuscule in comparison!
@@EONutrition I hear you, but your research is much deeper than his on this subject. Credit where it's due and all. One for the future maybe...
@@EONutrition Elliot please see the message below asking people to text - is that you or a fake account?
@@Musika1321 fake bot
@@EONutrition thought as much.
Once I started eating beef heart it all made sense. Good work here bud.
What an interesting topic and video! Thank you🙏 is there any vitamins this should be taken with not to dysregulate the body? Or to take with something for better absorption? Thank you once again
Could you do a Video on ADHD/ADD? I was diagnosed with ADD and Asperger's and have been looking into a lot of approaches to nutritionally and with patterns to address the symptoms. While I don't expect to get off meds, it's interesting to look into practices which optimize dopamine and norepinephrine. So far, cold exposure has been really effective! L-Tyrosine supplementation boosted effectiveness of ADD Medication but I built up a tolerance on Tyrosine really quickly, it still helps with managing withdrawal symptoms when doing tolerance breaks.
I have one advice, I read couple of books by Dr. Perl Mutter, he is a neurologist, 1# Brain Maker, this one talks about gut microbiome, which is our second brain, so if you fix whatever is not balanced in your gut, your brain will be happy, thousands of people has improved or totally healed, between then ADHD and some austims, ALL EXPLAINED there, #2 Grain Brain, it is about how gluten is making people get ADHD and conditions similar to some astisms.
I think they are worth to read, those books changed my life for better.
If you combine the knowledge of those books, plus these vitamins protocol, for sure something will improve on you or anyone else following that.
Hope you read this. All the best.
I fixed my adhd with Phosphatidylserine, omega 3 high in DHA, zinc supplement and coenzymated b complex supplements. No more ritalin, no more anxiety and ADHD symptoms.
@@fredm4197 what does coenzymated means?
The only unsolved aspect of it is how to transfer b vitamins to cell in more substantial amounts ,as well as other key components of mitochondrial functioning.Thats the key.Other than that another brilliant video by Eliot, truly advanced view on health problems,but of course first and foremost shoutout to Dr. Lonsdale and his mentors in this field.
"The only unsolved aspect of it is how to transfer b vitamins to cell in more substantial amounts"
This can be achieved through 1. megadosing to increase passive transport, and 2. using bioavailable derivatives which bypass transporters (TTFD, benfotiamine, sulbutiamine)
Well he has mentioned that you need magnesium and choline as cofactors.
Also for mitochondrial function red light/near infrared light is very beneficial.
Glycine (collagen/bone broth) to help replace the glyphosate in cells.
Maybe taurine would help.
@@carrikartes1403 thats for sure
@@EONutrition Yes Eliot, thanks for responsiveness.Happy Holidays and keep on striving in your domain.
Elliot, this exactly explains covid, hospital covid (sepsis), and especially long covid! I have been watching B1 videos, and taking high dose allithiamin and magnesium along with some other more general supplements. It is really helping my moderate long covid. Most importantly, it is an experiment on myself in prep for helping my daughter who has severe long covid with confirmed micro clots (which causes cellular hypoxia, lactic acid build up, cellular death followed by autoimmune type attack). She has been helped by triple anticoagulant therapy, but reprofusion causes significant problems if it's own. Thiamin with magnesium and vitamin C (see Dr Marik FLCCC protocol for sepsis induced by any severe physiological stress) along with other antioxidants would have made a difference! We are hoping that this therapy will help her mitochondria and body get back on track! From the way I feel, I really think so. Thank you for thus video, especially 12min to 21 min. The whole thing is solid, fact based info.
I have an extraordinary update. Yesterday I received my first bottle of thiamax. I started with 100 mg mid morning. Didn't really feel much yet in the next few hours. I took another hundred mg few hours later. Around 5:30 I went to do my usual work out at the gym. Instead of taking all these caffeinated pre-workout. I took another hundred mg. Now at 300 mg total, ate a banana as my pre workout and let me tell you🥵🔥. All of the sudden felt like I was on fire. I was sweating so profusely like the oven turned on in my body. That shortness of breath that people get working out and doing heavy exertion, that almost disappeared. I felt so strong. My leg workout was probably the best I've had in years. Many of my lifts went up 40 lb in weight. This is unbelievable! I love this this stuff. The downside was when I got home I was so wide awake it was tough getting a good night sleep. Mental note to take earlier in the day. Thanks Elliott! Can't tell ya how blown away I am.
You probably took it too late. Yes, thiamax indeed ramps up metabolism! Great stuff
@@EONutrition who knew a single vitamin could cause such havoc. I will be spreading the knowledge about this vitamin to everyone.
@@aquilahoopes4218 Indeed, that's why I talk about it so often!
@@EONutrition Hey Elliot, have you ever heard of any of your patients reporting a skunk-like smell when taking TTFD? This happened to me and my bf could smell it too. It was so bad we honestly thought a skunk came inside our basement. The only thing I found was a study done by Lonsdale on 10 autistic children who had taken TTFD rectally and their parents reported the skunk-like smell. The idea was that it shouldn't happen orally. I was stunned! On day 2 now and instead of skunk, it's metal, which I did smell yesterday but mostly in the mouth. I know it has to do with mercaptans, but I couldn't much understand anything else.
@@rachel8579 Hey! Thats quite normal. Its high sulfur content is the reason for that. It generally reduces within a few weeks, but molybdenum can help !
The way epithelial cells in the colon react to low thiamine levels may also implicate it in gut dysfunction and gut dysbiosis.
may the face of the creator shine his loving light on you.
So fascinating. I take 100mg of thiamine daily.
Any chance you could do a breakdown on the Ray Peat diet, especially as it pertains to energy production and whether you find it beneficial? I have my own opinions that don’t agree with those of my peers or some of my clients and find your thoroughness very beneficial. Appreciate any help!
I've been chronically ill with many, many infections (parasites, bacterial, fungal, etc.)and started 50 mg of Benfotiamine twice a day, to play it safe. It's been nine years of treatments. No kidding! Lots f toxins and heavy metals. Definitely catabolic. No doubt have been in lactic acidosis for years. So am hoping I can do this on my own. I believe I can feel a subtle improvement in energy. Will continue to learn from your videos.
Thank you, Elliott!
@@notadonna5983do you feel better?
Thanks Elliot for your continued sharing of info. I'm currently taking orthomolecular doses thiamax, along side some benfotiamine. I was thinking of ordering sublingual B1 in either liquid or tablet form to add into the mix. What is your opinion of sublingual B1, in this case, to be used additionally, and how does it compare in effectiveness? I've heard that you can use less with the sublingual? I was hoping to manage the cost as well, by adding it and maybe subtracting a bit of thiamax and/ or benfotiamine. Wishing you the best in the New Year
The speed is very fast, and lots of information, so i listen at 75%..
Since 2019 (@ 39 years old) I’ve been having skin issues, rashes under my arms neck and hands. Almost like a fungus rash. My joints (knuckles) are swollen on my hands.I have shortness of breath and my heart beats really fast while just sitting or standing. I’ve had really bad brain fog. Felt very anxious and everything made me jump ( like when someone scares you) and it made me sweat. At night I’d wake up soaking with sweat and I had to get up and change because my clothes because they were soaked with sweat. I’ve talk to my doctor and she didn’t want to do any test. She laughed at me and said you look very healthy. I’ve tried to cut all sugar and carbs and tried a low carb with more meat but I still feel low energy and extremely fatigued. Just in the last two weeks I haven’t been able to fall asleep because my heart feels like it’s going to stop.. like I have a heavinesses when I try to breathe. Not sure what to do next. Where do I get more information on test that I should request to see if I need supplements? Thank you for all your informative videos. They help me know I’m not crazy.
Watch his video on B2 & B3 and seborrheic dermatitis. You can also watch his videos on oxalates, and see if you've been indulging in foods that might be causing you issues. Oxalates can cause wasting of B vitamins. They can also cause joint pain when the oxalate crystals lodge into the joints. It's all tied in with nutrition.
The night sweats are your body's way of utilizing your lymphatic system to remove toxins from your body. Look up "Herx reactions" for more explanation. It's not a bad thing, just terribly inconvenient. You *want* your body to remove the toxins; the key is to figure out what the toxins are, and how to naturally chelate (chemically bind) them out of your body.
You also need to look at your magnesium levels and the sources that you're getting it from. If you don't already, try doing Epsom salt soaks (either baths, or foot soaks). Your body needs the Mg for smooth muscle relaxation (your heart is mostly composed of that), as well as Mg being "best friends" with thiamine. It needs the sulphur from the Epsom salts for a variety of functions, including driving the oxalates out of your joints.
Look into myo-inositol (co-factors are selenium and Vitamin E) to help with the anxiety, along with stabilizing blood sugar levels. Also look into Saccharomyces boulardii for your brain fog. It's a transient yeast that won't colonize your GI tract, but it *will* help to stabilize your gut flora and outcompete bad yeast and fungi. Most forms of S. boulardii need to be kept refrigerated to keep them viable.
@@ji.ol.1490 Definitely look into magnesium. I was horribly ill with a long list of symptoms years ago. My doctor couldn't figure out how to help me. Then I started taking a large magnesium dose, and all my symptoms resolved, including the slow disappearance of panic disorder. I recommend some sort of daily drink mix so you can dissolve the magnesium in water before consuming it. It takes a long time for magnesium to build up in the cells, so I needed to take it every day for more than a year before I could even go a couple of days without it.
Try taking magnesium! And try taking a hot Epsom salt bath before sleeping. Avoid CORN and wheat products! Avoid oxalates and lectins 🙏🙏🙏
Get a tilt table test. You might have POTS postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome
Wow 😳 Thiamine is my favourite, Now i know why I'm not fall ill or sick and all my family get fever in twice in year. I don't get any fever since 2020. Bcz I supplement TTFD and also not took any medicine when last time i was sick. 🤔
I suspect I'm extremely deficient, and the reason is, I just did a hair test analysis for minerals. My sodium and potassium are off the charts indicating large amounts of stress. My other micronutrients are all low including magnesium calcium zinc copper selenium boron etc. I've been told it's called the four low indicating body is extremely stressed out. The results said that I was in a fast oxidizer alarm state. Unfortunately finding is not tested in this. It does explain a lot. I think the other thing that explains a lot is that my testosterone is extremely low and my thyroids TSH is really high.
I have been taking 100 mg of Thiamax each day for over a year. I added Thiavite today for the extra B vitamins that will help. I don't see this Thiavite being sold anymore on the objective nutrients website. Is there an issue I need to know about regarding this form? Is there a reason why I should not be taking it. I have 2 extra unopened bottles which I intended to take and need this bit of info to continue. I believe that my issues are stress related as well as my diet was horrible to say the least. I was a sugarholic as well as a vegetarian who ate alot of oxalates but I have gone KETO and haven't had any sugar or oxalates for over a year. I eat meat and low oxalate vegetables only but still have been having stomach issues. Have had them since childhood and I am now 73 years old- carsickness etc issues with certain foods.Thank you Elliot
I couldnt find my way anywhere always getting lost ...directional sense up the spout
You are really obsessed with B1 :P
I would like to know if mangrove , especially the variety found around the Mediterranean, has thiamine levels over and above other plants , I heard that the mangrove has properties that fight against viruses , WE NEED TO KNOW MORE DONT WE , . Thankyou for this info . ❤
Stress also caused level of nitric oxide to go down which is needed by every cell in the body, metabolic function in every part of the body.
Body need enzymes & amino acids & minerals
The other thing I suspect is that I have occasionally shortness of breath, like almost asthma type anxiety like it's difficult to to take a deep breath
I think we will see more and more thiamine depleted people in the next years due to exposure to non native EMF which causes a lot of cellular stress!
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. EMF/dirty electricity has never sat well with nature. We the animals and insects can’t cope with the cellular stress.
I have a degree in horticulture. Never the less, my mother was the one with the "green thumb". I accompanied her to a nursery and noticed that she put something calle Super Thrive in her cart. She said I should try it. When I opened the bottle to use it, IT SMELLED LIKE A BOTTLE OF B VITAMINS. WEll, Well, Well....mystery solved. I have just started rehabbing a potted holly shrub. Being in a small pot is very stressful for a shrub! Seems to be working.
Yolks are very rich with vit B1.
I wonder if you might do a video specifically on petechiae. I heard you mention them in another video recently in relation to a need for vitamin C which I do suspect I need more of though I'm having trouble supplementing C without negative effect to my digestion. I probably need a different form or source. Perhaps that's a video idea on it's own too. But I'm also wondering if there may be other things to consider as to why I've always gotten petechiae, even in childhood, just a few, just showing up here and there. Right now I do have several.
Have you tried whole food Vit C? Ascorbic acid isn’t really Vit C. Camu powder works really well for sensitive people. Paradise brand makes a really nice quality capsule, it’s pink. Watch out for ones that are brown. They’ve been dried with too much heat which effectively inactivates the vitamin C. If they’re dried at cool temperatures Amla and acerola are great whole food vitamin C as well, including all the cofactors needed like bioflavonoids. 200 mg a day is enough. You don’t need huge doses like trying to get help from ascorbic acid.
"Before starting treatment with thyroid hormone it is important that the patient have an adequate Vitamin B1 level."
"Intolerance to low-dose thyroid therapy repeatedly has been due to aggravated symptoms of vitamin B1 deficiency."
'Myofascial Pain and Dysfunction - The Trigger Point Manual' - Janet G Travell, MD, David G Simons, MD
Oooohhh - do you have a link for that? I'd like to shove that paper in my endo's face. :-)
QQQQ would you please explain CPIR A
& physiological vs pathological insulin resistance?
I wonder is there a liposomal version of B1 . Also, how much is considered a large dose to start with ? Thank you for all the great info !
It's called ttfd
What of benfotiamine? Fat soluble B1.
A very interesting point. Can you comment on the growing research on metformin as an anti ageing compound. As I understand it, metformin affects B1 in complex 1 of the electron transport chain and the inhibition of B1 forces, through mild stress, the body to ramp up production of mitochondria. Would periods iD suppression of thiamine, followed by a surfeit, allow the body to take advantage of the anti ageing but also balance the oxidative stress produced by chronic stress where thiamine supplementation would be beneficial
From Bart Kay metformin destroys mitochondria as much as it helps. He advises to not take it
wow interesting!
Berberine works similar but without bad side effects
Did you stopped taking new consultation! Virtual ones?
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would you say the term “stress” could be synonymous with cortisol?
Is B1 blood test any accurate? I heard about ETKAC test being a lot more efficient at detecting deficiency, however, I struggle to find local testing facilities that offer it
Should you take B1 and Benfotiamine? I have been taking Benfotiamine, alone, since I found out about it?
What are your thoughts on using high dose Vitamin 1 as a treatment for cancer? We've come to learn cancer is not genetic, but rather a metabolic issue. To me Thiamine would make sense as a treatment. Thoughts?
You have raised an interesting question. I also educate my own patients in ca prevention by increasing mitochondrial health. I raised the question in the main feed about the recent anti ageing approach using metformin which actually affects b1 in complex 1 of electron transport chain. I wonder which is more beneficial.. a periodic restriction of B 1 to increase mitochondrial synthesis, followed by a flood of B 1 for its anti oxidant effects. Remember that once you have cancer, we want to trigger apoptosis and it’s the mitochondria that do this
Cure is in the cupboard by Dr Simocini. Cancer is a yeast, fungus, or mold. Bicarbonate soda!
Alkaline foods and no sugar. Sugar feeds cancer! Candy. Soda, cakes, ice cream, etc!
Just yesterday I thought that a very low level of thiamin could be a trigger for cancer.
Plant rescue for Cannabis contains it
Is neck pain and muscle spasm right and pain and blood sugar drops and blood pressure issues common with B1 difeciency
Ok- how do I start implementing thiamine supplement into my daily regimen? How do I know which thiamine to get?
Hi 👋 you mention in a few videos the rosk gactors for thismine deficiencies, couldntou do a video on risk factor?
I notived so much b1 comws from meat and seafood so vegetarians would be at risk no?