Are Expensive Records Really Better?
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I get spending a ton of money on rare records but theres no greater feeling than finding them in the wild for a dollar.
Yep!
Haven’t found anything decent for under $20 in years. It would certainly be nice though.
Not rare but I just picked up a late 70s America Beauty MOFI in the wild for $15. I considered that a score.
@@TheHSIHPis a score. I find stuff all the time for pennies on the dollar. Good stuff. Eyes wide open
@@chipsdeluxe8622 me too. I also found a Bill Evans Waltz for Debby OJC, sealed at Goodwill for 2 bucks!
It sucks that people hate on you for finding rare things. Whenever you post that type of video I always look up almost every record you show and listen to a few songs and see if I like it. It’s led me to music I would’ve never found that I love: T2, Truth and Janey, Sound Company, Moving Gelatin Plates, etc. Haters decide to be jealous instead of sharing the love. Keep up the work man I love it.
Yeah I know more people like the videos than hate them, so it doesn’t bother me. Thanks for the kind words!
@@noblerecordsgood chance I would have never even heard of Farm if I didn’t hear about them from you. Crazy how many bands went under the radar back then
T2 is quite the rarity! Love them. You might check out the album/band called "Cathedral" "Stained Glass Stories" from 1978. One of my favorite prog bands. (Not the 90s doom metal band, which is top notch if you like heavy Sabbath type stuff) The other Cathedral is great prog fo sho! 😅
@@PluralofvinylisvinylsAlot of indie labels popped up and went broke after one or two albums in the 70s, trying like hell to make it big.
Yeah I’m curious about that Obsession ‘77. Love the art.
"Worth the money" is up to the individuals. Fashion, collectibles, cars, hobbies, vacations, dining... it all up to an individual's preferences and financial priorities.
This! 🙌🏻👏🏻👏🏻
In my experience every insane record collectors favorite record is “the next record.” But what I’m coming to terms with is you can’t own more records than time. What’s the point of having all the grails I want if I can’t listen and be intimately familiar with them. I do try, when I start obsessing on what I need next is to just enjoy what I already have. It’s insane how often you rediscover stuff you filed and it’s like getting something new for free!
I love your no nonsense carefree “oh well” attitude! You love what you love and that’s all that matters in this crazy hobby. ✌🏼 & ❤️ from Houston! 🍻
Yes! Thank you! 🙏🙏🙏
Music Town way up on the north side of Houston always had some cool stuff! I bought a stylus and some Rush LPs from them maybe around 10 years ago.
Your excitement over records is contagious for me making this the most uplifting CZcams channel I watch. With health setbacks, more health setbacks, I doubt I'll be buying any records this year. I started on my 3rd collection about a year ago and I have 33 records that I love. I live vicariously through you man and I love you for that. I feel sorry for anyone who can't.
Thanks so much man!
Dillon, you own a shop. You are a collector, and you work at your craft. No need to mention about the mass of people who are afraid to share their joy. Everyone has a price limit and likes what they like. That is why we have so many genres of music. Keep up the good job.
Thanks so much! I will!
@@noblerecords Doing what you love is living the dream baby! 😉 👌
Agree with you 100% Out of all of the obscure bluesy hard rock bands I've heard, nothing ever beats Ten Years After. Magical Mystery Tour and The Doors is better than 90% of the obscure psych albums I own. Jimi Hendrix too. Tower of Power made incredible funk albums that are better than most of the obscure funk around. I love collecting the obscure stuff and the rush of finding that stuff is why I love hunting! Some obscure stuff also really clicks specifically with you. Where Zeppelin may click with almost everyone, Arzachel clicks with me and is one of my favorites. Bob Dylan clicks with most people but I can really relate to Nick Drake. Its always up to the listener!
Dude...your videos are great and I love watching for several reasons. Your excitement over rare finds is infectious and we all have experienced that feeling of coming across a rare or even not so rare records to add to the collection. Your videos have also introduced me to artists that I had never heard of before. Overall just a great resource for record collectors, new and old. I'm 53 years old and grew up on vinyl. My older brother introduced me to some great bands as a kid and I remember walking down to the Music Forum (Record store that was in Gardner, MA), and thumbing through the records...spending my allowance on a new 45 or saving up enough until I could get the latest release from Pink Floyd, Kansas, Aerosmith, etc.. Your videos remind me of the talks with my bro. Keep it up.
Labels like Numero and Light in the Attic do the lord’s work collecting and reissuing obscure old records on their comps. Those Numero soul and funk comps are so special.
Man I really enjoy your takes!! I've started collecting about 1 year ago. And I just enjoy the preservation of the music
Agreed it’s only expensive or rare to the collector who wants it, in a sense… each record collector is rare cause we all have unique reasons for collecting what we have. Cheers to vinyl baby!
I'm in Budapest right now and I've been buying a ton of Hungarian prog and heavy rock for very cheap money. Some of that stuff such as Skorpió, Piramis, P. Mobil, Corvina, Metro, Generál, Karthago and Korál is amazing and just as good (or better) as the most expensive 70s rock LPs from my native Denmark.
I got the first Corvina LP for a couple of bucks a few years back, just out of curiosity, and I really dug it! Need to revisit it soon.
@@ianmiller652 I have bought the two first ones here in Budapest. The guitarist of Corvina later formed the heavy metal group called Karthago (Not to be confused with the German group). That's awesome stuff!
I don't understand why people would hate on your choices. They're yours. And you share that passion so well. Without your videos, I wouldn't have a turntable and would never have heard Armageddon, Warhorse, Road, Epitaph, or a ton of others. And heck, you're also bringing some of these rarities down to prices that the average collector, like me, can afford. So it's a repress? I still get to hear the music. Thank you.
Dude thank you for talking about Mile Davis “On The Corner” - went and checked it out on Spotify and you are correct - absolute face melter. This is the second funk jazz album you’ve put me on. I watched another video of yours where you pulled out a copy of Herbie Hancock’s Head Hunters - which I can stop spinning- it is so good. I was wondering where I heard Chamelon from and realized Beck sampled it on his song “Cellphones Dead”. Miles Davis and Herbie Hancock is one of my favorite duos when it comes to music collabs.
Keep up the great content man!
Recently, I purchased two vinyl LPs very close to my heart: Blue Afternoon by Tim Buckley and Listening to Richard Brautigan by Richard Brautigan. The former is a $50 record and the latter is a $200 record. I got sweet deals for both of them. I begin to feel twinges of pain at the $60 price point and the only way I would spend $150 on up for one vinyl LP is if it's a first UK Pye label pressing of The Magic Shoemaker by Fire.
Peronally I love you post rare and obscure record. I would never have found Nick Drake, T2, Betty Davis, or even some of the funk bands and their music without your channel. I’m a child of the 80s so all the late 60s / 70s psych / rock music is a world of new discovery to me.
I always love how much you exude that enthusiasm for the music! There's definitely some obscure and rare stuff that I really love, but a lot of my absolute favorite albums are fairly common and luckily weren't super expensive. I have a lot of I want, and though I could fairly complete much of my wishlist on the Discogs marketplace, I totally agree about the thrill of the hunt! It's so much more meaningful to find those grails in the wild, plus flipping through the bins and chatting with people at a record store is a great way to discover new music that I wouldn't have found otherwise.
Love how you're keeping it real. Don't stop what you're doing bro
I agree with You Brother. Thanks for sharing Your passion and adventures from Toronto Ontario Canada 😎👍♥️🔊🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🔊🎶🎶🎶🎶✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️💯💯💯💯💯✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️
Killer job!! Been watching you since you first started! We subscribed when you had about 200 subscribers! Your show is awesome 👏
Thanks for sticking around!!
I absolutely love the exclusives though. I really love trying new things and I appreciate your recommendations. They are heat!
Thanks so much!
Keep doing what you are doing. I have enjoyed your insights and information. I have been collecting old Blues and Jazz records for the past 12 years and happily played them on my inexpensive Victrola all in one system. Recently upgraded to my first HiFi system and didnt know the first thing about any of it. Your channel has been very informative and I have also gotten some nice recommendations for records I wasnt aware of. All this to say Thank You and keep up the good work.
...thank you Dillon...on the mark as usual...thank you for sharing your knowledge....
I recently visited a new store up here in Canada and they had a NM OG copy of Armageddon $30. I remembered a past video where you talked about it and I knew it was worth grabbing. The owner of the shop was stoked that I knew what it was, and he said "I'm glad someone is finally taking that one home." I've spun it twice since and it's so damn good. Great video as always!
Thanks Dillon. To me, probably one of your most interesting videos, from the beginning of your chanel.
You’ve introduced me to so many great bands that I had never heard of before I started watching your channel a few years back. Can I afford them all on vinyl, no. But that’s what streaming services are for until you find a physical copy (or maybe not). You have definitely enriched my life by sharing your knowledge and passion for the music itself and not just the records, so I can’t thank you enough.
Great video. I can't tell you the amount of times I have been researching rare records and end up thinking, this is pretty cool, but it just makes me want to listen to the real deal.
Like with all of those 70's hard rock raritties, I dig them, but eventually I just want to hear Black Sabbath.
Luckily I am a sucker for a $5 new wave record, so I spend a lot of time getting my cheese on with stuff that sounds like it should be on the soundtrack for an 80's ski competition movie.
Always enjoy watching good honest people talking about their records. Incredible knowledge is gained in all aspects of record collecting. Isn't this
the main important feature, along with making friends on the VC!! Thanks to all for sharing and ✌️.
Thanks so much!
As a record junkie, I really appreciate your channel. I will say the last video had so many awesome records that my face melted off. The only thing you’re guilty of is finding a lot of cool records. Somebody has to be really good at it and that’s you. You’ve turned me on so many great artist for that I thank you. Keep up the good work.😀
I like how you place a lot of these rare records in the context of the major bands of their era & genre that they were trying to emulate. It's the same way with rare garage 45s. There are a lot of bands trying to be the next version of the Beatles, The Rolling Stones, the Animals, the Yardbirds etc. etc., but even when they're imitative, they can't always imitate it perfectly & that's where the individuality creeps in.
---- never apologize for your passion or accomplishments --- hard work and perseverance pays off. Keep rockin'
I've added so many good albums to my Spotify just watching these videos (I also collect records but I'm on a hiatus right now lol) Keep up these great videos!
I think really wise words here in this vid, agree with everything you have said. You mentioned it was a rant, I'd call it a good quality 'lecture' on collecting rare vs common.
My ears pricked up when you said reissue this year of Fraction - Moon Blood. I'll be keeping an eye out for that.
I thoroughly enjoy music and have been buying music in all formats for over 50 years, vinyl being my favorite. I have all the albums that I will listen to for rest of my life, but I still enjoy the hunt for unique or hard to find album that I don’t have. Sure, I could go on-line and buy them, but what’s the fun in that. To that end, many of the albums that most of us may be hunting for, you Dillon, have owned and sold several times and your thrill of the hunt is for more rare and obscure. I enjoy when you find them and share them with us. I enjoy it because you continue to educate me on different music and artist, but also because of the love and passion for what you share. Keep it up, and thank you.
Great interesting video! Brings back memories of picking up that Armageddon LP for a couple of bucks in the 70's, and also finding The Stooges debut album, and also Captain Beyond's first for a dollar in 1980. They weren't in great condition, but I got numerous, enjoyable plays out of them.
Hey! I’m new to record collecting and looking into getting a better set up. I appreciate all your tips and advice! Thank you 💜
Just start with what you can afford. A good turntable that has a replacement stylus and cartridge would be the Audio Technica LP120. They are relatively inexpensive and you can use this and build a system around this turntable.
Used gear can be great as long as it has been maintained and serviced properly.
You can ask 100 different people and get 100 different answers. This is just my advice. 1 of 100 people.
@@memyselfmyvinyl894 I am dog sitting and the home owner has this turntable and it sounds great! Will definitely be upgrading to this soon 💜
You shouldn't have to justify getting excited for something you like, brother.
As long as there's haters you know you're doing something right.
Appreciate your knowledge, keep it up!
Well said! I will say that sometimes we get bored with the common stuff even though it’s still phenomenal music.
Enjoyed your post . I like checking out the different albums old and new that you talk about. Don’t forget about the local bands that didn’t make.I bought a record yesterday at my local record shop for $5.00 Very enjoyable record.
Thanks for watching! 🙏
Great videos. I love the idea of providing an affordable option to expensive collectible records.
You’re the man man. It may sound crazy but something you could do to reinvigorate the sense and joy of the hunt, sell a chunk of your collection for a good cause to some place in need and then start over for those ones. You’ve probably done that like ten times but yea, without question life’s about the journey not the destination. The quest itself really is the prize
Dang! You were in Salina, KS …. just up the road from me here in Wichita, KS. Hope you had a great trip!
I flew into Wichita actually!
I've learned a lot from your channel. Thank you
Thanks so much!
Hey Buddy!! Dan Here!! You Know I Love Hearing About Your Finds!!! Big Buck Ones Or Thrift Shop Finds!!! IT'S fun Finding Both!! Remember Digging With You With Sonny!!!!! Bottom Line!!! It's Just Fun And Discovering History!!!!
The thrill of the hunt is very real. Flipping through records and having a record you have been dreaming of "staring back at you" is one of the greatest feelings I know.
That Armageddon album is great. I also have a clean promo that I know I paid less than $50 for. One of the last things Keith Relf did.
There are many big-dollar albums I want. But I also love going through the bargain bins to find those "lost gems" that continue to go overlooked. Albums I myself am unfamiliar with, but that look promising. And usually they are deservedly forgotten, but every once in a while you find an album that makes you ask, "How did THESE GUYS not make it?"
I’ve been buying tapes since I was like 10 and records since I was maybe 14; I’m 50 now. It’s always been about the music initially but as I got older I got more into “original” pressings. In the 90s the market wasn’t flooded with reissues so often the “original” pressings were your only option. Thankfully they weren’t so expensive as they are now but were trickier to find before the dawn of eBay and discogs. Anyway I’ve made lots of money over the years on grails I’ve found cheaply in the wild so I don’t mind if I drop 4 figures on a really nice clean Blue Note once in awhile. But I don’t do it very often!
It depends on if you actually enjoy the music. There is nothing quite like that rush of finding something out in the wild as you are digging through hours worth of records that you see day in day out. Two that stick in my mind are "Arcadium's" "Breath Awhile" on Middle Earth and a Copy of "Pussy" on Morgan BlueTown back in the late 90's after hours of rummaging through a room of boxes where I was told that I would probably find something that I liked in there.
Man, I enjoyed a lot your opinions, lucid, rational and with focus on good music. Greetings from Brazil, a country where brand new common records costs at least 50 dollars.
Thanks so much!
Love Armageddon, have a promo myself. The drummer Bobby Caldwell played drums on the first Captain Beyond/self-titled record, have both a promo and 1st issue, love both, promo is analytical, 1st issue is round and warm. …And thx for sharing!
Congratulations on your record collection and your videos. I have two LPs over $1,000 (Aust.) and two 45’s over $1,000.
Another great cool video , you're speaking the truth bro ......
It all comes down to this. You collect what makes you happy. Like many out here know and say, "It's all about the music". That's all it is. Nothing more or less.
Ive talked with Chad at AXPONA in Chicago the last couple years and I always enjoy the conversation with him. Ive picked up a couple UHQR box sets from him.. The man knows his stuff.👍🏻
Great topic Dillon, I really enjoyed this. UK Vertigo swirl records for example are usually very expensive as not that many were sold at the time. Why? Most of the bands on that label were actually not very good imo. I also did the 'chasing rare expensive records' trip but then when you actually listen to them you think... are they worth that? Of course they are! 😊
Hi Dillon, really interesting video. It reminded me of another video you did not long ago which was something like your 10 most-played or favourite records. And I was thinking, because it was you, it would be 10 records I’d never heard of. So it was fascinating that you were still picking out Zeppelin and Floyd etc, despite the hundreds of obscure records you have publicised on your channel. Because it showed that, however much you pan for gold outside of the obvious pool of great bands, there is a reason why those bands sold millions of records - Beatles, Stones, Zeppelin, Floyd, Dylan - they are the pinnacle and there is not an ‘undiscovered’ band which is their equal. Which is not to say there isn’t a ton of great, less well known music out there to be discovered - there is. In fact it would be an interesting exercise one day to count how many different artists are comprised within my record collection! But to your point - let’s not kid ourselves that Frijid Pink is better than Led Zep II. To pretend otherwise is just inverted snobbery. Great topic for a few beers down the pub, shame you’re on the other side of the world! Greetings from London.
Yes! Thanks for watching! 🙏
EXCELLENT CHANNEL !!!
I can't help but think that hateful comments come from a place of envy, even though the way you get access to these records consistently required you taking an enormous risk to start a store, selling off most of your collection years ago, and taking many leaps to grow a business. It's fun to live through your successes, personally, since I've seen the passion instilled in all that you do. This was a pretty fun discussion. In the end, it comes down to what you like! Simple as that.
Exactly! Thanks so much!
But yeah, if someone here wants to sell me an affordable OG copy of "Inspiration Information" I'm all ears haha
I love finding rare xian psych in the dollar bins. A lot of it goes for over $200 a record, but usually not the ones that I find however it's very interesting and pleasant. I have a 300 song playlist in my account here. Private prices of very fun category to collect.
What I've always told people, "Holy Grail is only significant if you actually like it!" I used to get so annoyed of people that would tell me, "OMG..you have to own this/that album!" My reply would be, "why, I don't like that artist/band, why would I buy an album of theirs?" Owning an album just to "own an album" to me is the most ridiculous thing ever!? I don't own one album by Steely Dan, I never cared for them. They bore me to death! I understand their significance and influence, and if they're your thing, grab every album they made. But I do not feel the need to own an "original copy of Aja bc someone else tells me how awesome it is!" What I get off on is finding a "rare " album to me, that is listed for like $10, bc it was a band/artist that I really liked, but they weren't hugely successful, most people didn't listen to it/know about it, so if you find a copy of it, it's usually in a discount bin! Love your videos..keep up the great work!
Well said brother. I've been collecting for 50 years.
Dillon your collection is on my mind daily man! lol. But jokes aside I do think its important to collect what you love and what drives you. Everyone that comes into my record room just asks to hear Journey and the Police anyways, and i disappoint them when i don't have any
Awesome video bro
Thanks for watching! 🙏
Good going Dillon….! Enjoy the music… 😎
No better feeling than finding something you've been hoping to find! Weather its value is $10 or $100 ... the feeling is very similar!.. Awesome!! Its what keeps me Hunting Records for over 40 years!... A Natural High..Almost! Heavenly! Love All you said! Love your perspective! Keep it coming Dylan...❤
How much will the faction reissue be in Australia?I love that album I can only listen on Spotify. I’ve tried to search it on vinyl but no luck.
The thrill of the hunt! Say no more. You don’t need to defend yourself dude but good points made. I recently found a VG+ first pressing of The Meters debut at Goodwill for $2 and it was such a rush!! I’d been hunting for that forever. Last one in a stack of crap. Couldn’t believe it. I wouldn’t have paid what it’s selling for but man did I want it. The thrill! 🤩
Ned from Spain saying, I collect records of all types and I have only about 4.000. I've found $$$ LP's for a few dollars and paid big bucks for LPs that I ended up trading or glad that I got them because I loved them and some are high dollar now. Dylan you've got a passion for music and your collection shows that. It's cool that you're breaking it down for people but the haters putting you down are just trolling idiots who don't mean a damn. Love your content and thanks for the videos.
Thanks man!!
Clearly you're doing something right Dillon🤘 i wouldn't worry too much about any flakk you might get at this point. I can tell you that when I saw/heard you mention Fraction, Moonblood popped into my brain real quick. I sure as hell didn't learn that anywhere but here
That's very good advice, I don't mind a decent reissue, I will pay a lot for a record if it's the only way to get it as I did with Bacamarte.
Dishing hate at a vinyl community channel from within the vinyl community is just ignorant. You have made a hobby into a career which is ultimate joy. I know because in past I achieved this for some time. I may never be there again but I'm not down on people who are doing well. I celebrate your success because I understand it. Sleepless nights go into building a business but the thrill of the hunt is part of the drive. You have your youth and so much opportunity that you've been blessed with. Just enjoy how amazing that is.
Thanks so much! It doesn’t bother me too much! Thanks for watching! 🙏
Thanks for the great video. Very, very well said. I love seeing other people get excited about finding a rare record or others get excited about finding a record with music they love. I hope you keep sharing your great finds. I've learned so much about music I've never heard of before from you.
"better" is such a subjective term. People buy records for different reasons. For some, it's about the music and only the music. So if that's you're perspective then the Allman Brothers record is "better" than the Farm record like you said. But, this is also a collecting hobby as well. Is a 1922 George Washington 1c stamp (worth $16,000) "better" than a current Forever stamp you can buy at the post office for $0.68 today? If you're trying to mail a letter then no, it's not. But if you are a collector then yes it is to that collector. I wish that others wouldn't demean people who value things for different reasons.
Love your channel ❤️. I only ever buy records that I like or think I’ll like. If they’re worth way more than purchase price, or less, it doesn’t matter as long as I enjoy the music.
Same for me! Thanks for watching! 🙏
@@noblerecords .. I’m here in UK .. watch all your stuff !
I had a record store years ago and had a kid that would come in with 20 bucks on Friday and buy 20 records, no tax. I said he has to be the happiest collector because he wasn’t focused on rarity or something being in NM condition. He was just listening to and building a collection he loved. Meanwhile, I’m in Chicago, Austin and Indianapolis looking for the cleanest copies of rare records that I wanted for my collection usually to be disappointed w/ VG finds at NM pricing! Anyway couldn’t agree more! That Fraction is one rarity that for fans of Psych. Doors, Sabbath and PP Xian music is worth seeking out a reissue. Unbelievable!
It’s a favorite!
Like any hobby, so much of the fun is the journey. My dad was a car guy and constantly fixing up cars, selling a new project. I’ve bought & sold so many guitars over the years because I can’t help but find them. If I kept them all my house would be full and my wife would leave! Keep on liking what you like and enjoy the journey.
Hey Dylan, do you have expectations to grow the collection or do you want to keep it around the same size? I mean, im saying because of your comment that "you gotta have the common records that inspired those bands".
Unlike you, I dont have many rare records but I have lots and lots of the common ones, say black sabbath, led zep, deep purple, grand funk, ccr, lynyrd, alman bros, pink floyd, genesis, yes, gentle giant, van der graaf, elp, king crimson, and so on. I also have lots of funk, soul, jazz, classical, mostly common stuff like the ones i mentioned.
In your case, because you have a record store, if you keep all the common stuff and also the rare stuff.. how is it that you avoid having a huge collection that will take a huge space in your house?
Interested to know your thoughts on a phenomenon I’ve noticed on Discogs: rare (but not super rare) records - maybe ones where there’s 5-10 copies for sales max around the world, and every copy is priced at double or more what anyone has ever paid before. You mention it in here, and it grabbed my attention because it drives me crazy. All these sellers thinking they can price at twice what anyone has ever paid and then, often, I see those records just sit, and sit, and sit for months and months not selling. Its infuriating all these sellers seemingly trying to rip people off, and simultaneously denying themselves the actual sale they’d get if they priced more reasonably.
If you put your OG FARM on side-by-side with the repress you did, would you be able to tell the difference in sound between the two? I am 100% on board with having original pressings and the thrill of having them, but on a budget, I usually go for the cheaper repress and just assume my ears won't know the difference. My hesitation with the represses is that you never know how the mix was done and I'm pretty sure more than a couple that I've bought are just rips from a crappy FLAC file or digital version pressed onto vinyl.
I get it, i collect also old records but recently i descovered a new band called "mouth" which should be checked out by anyone interested in old school rock like uriah heep, black sabbath, led zep etc. I get that people say "that new band sounds just like this or that" but also it is not easy to create new music with the same instruments and as soon as it sounds similar to something more popular they are called a rip off. In the end i dont care if they got inspired by old bands, as long as they create something new for the era nowadays. Btw congrats for the collaboration with analogue productions😁🥳
17:10 my friends when I show them my records (it's been years since I had company).
Sorry if I’m one of the mean comments you were talking about! I know we are all suppose to just like what we like but I come from an investing background and I can’t not see records with the mindset of value generation, and I know how value is given to something, it takes two people agreeing on its price and a third person to pay it then others to see that happen. Then the value is set. But those people have to stay around and keep interest going, and if theyre all from one generation and they’re getting out of record collecting because they’re getting really old it means a new class of collectors have to come in and acknowledge the value of those fringe niche albums, and I don’t see gen z and gen alpha doing that. Theyre not going to incorporate “farm” into the thrill of the hunt unless someone they look up to says farm is cool, and those people are getting out of the game. The value is temporary, the same way the value of Huey Lewis and Robert Palmer is going down because the amount of fans that like them are lessening, because they’re not around anymore and all the people who use to talk about them don’t talk about them anymore. While records like prince and Bowie will have guaranteed value for another 50 years because all the people living today who still know and think about them. When it comes to the value of records aside from your own enjoyment from listening to them, it’s exactly like that quote they say about nothing really does until the last person to remember it dies. So I really hope a renaissance happens for prog psych and garage, the kind that reinvigorates the value. Personally I don’t like really long or weird songs I can barely handle Pink Floyd yea I know I’m getting g worse by the second here but these things I am saying, are not completely idiotic. Just saying.
If you have a mindset of value generation I am a little surprised you are interested in vinyl records at all! Even at the extremes of collectibility these are not really high value items, let’s be honest. The most valuable records in the world (bar a few outliers) are worth a lot less than the cheapest new car you could buy. Hopefully the music brings you some rewards as well!
It’s all supply and demand. But there’s lots of records that suck and are rare and are worthless. They have to be good and rare to be worth more. 🤷♂️
@@londonrecordlover965 oh yes the musical rewards for me are spinning remasters and reissues or sentimental ones like my grandpas records and having my 1st special this and that pressings as well of them, like I love listening to Sgt pepper and I love having a super nice 1st UK with all the bells just to look at and watch appreciate in value while getting different versions to actually listen to. You’re right that won’t buy me a new car but I think several collections of full discographies in near mint are worth getting serious about like a Beatles one a Rolling Stones one a Led Zeppelin one or a ..Pink Floyd one. Say in the case of prog garage psych, if that was my thing and the value of them started going down I would still listen to them of course but I would be sad you know
@@noblerecords that’s a way better way of saying it for sure
Been watching a long time now and been wondering if you have "common" hard rock albums in your collection like Starz,Legs Diamond,Piper,Airborne,Angel,etc. Never have heard you mention them but they kick as much ass (or more) than some of the rare stuff. What I've also found through the years is that many of the "grails" are highly over hyped. Many of the ones I mentioned actually kick their asses.
I think that ultimately it just comes down to the music. Yeah, while owning a Beatles butcher cover album or a Led Zep teal lettering cover is cool, all of that stuff is not going to change what comes out of the speakers when the needle hits the groove. Still the same songs.
As far as obscure ultra-rare albums go, a whole lot of them just aren’t that great musically. There is a reason for their obscurity. On the other hand, some didn’t catch on at the time but were actually good or great and grew followings later because of that. But once again, that’s due to the musical content rather than anything else.
I love hunting down obscure 60’s garage band music. There is a lot of sound-alike junk, but there is also a lot of amazing stuff that didn’t get its day in the sun the first time around. It just depends on the music.
Do you have the 1st two Steve Miller Bands albums? Great psych records along with the pre Joker era. I’m discovering it now.
PS: ARMAGEDDON ! everyone should have it
Yes! Love those!
Just out of curiosity: On the right hand side of your head (my perspective) on the top shelf, there are about 25 records (not in box) whose spines seem brush-painted - what are these? And: Thanks for all the effort with your CZcams-content - discovered some really fine stuff here.
It’s this! czcams.com/video/7Xu_mOY6dKk/video.htmlsi=8xzAAmy_vFQXD8kU
@@noblerecords Thank you so much. I heard these were (re-)released individually, but I totally missed that Clouds Hill dropped them as a box set. Very unfortunate for me I own the Mars Volta box (which is 99% great), and I just found myself having ordered this behemoth, fomo galore. There goes the holiday money...
How did you get an original copy of Population II without the cut-out hole? Did you get that direct from Randy Holden himself or were there other sources? I have seen an original Population II at a record show once, but it had a cut-out hole & I was told all surviving copies had cut-out holes, because the record came out when the Hobbit record label that issued it completely collapsed financially.
Mine does have the hole
Hey Dylan, Ned again, are you also into the South American bands like the various Luis Alberto Spinetta bands, Pappo, Color Humano, the Shakers and the awesome Totem. I swear you had a copy of Laghonia did I imagine that ?
I don’t! Not yet!
I love Blue Cheer - I have loved them since I got a copy through one of those get 12 for 2.99 and buy only six more for five times retail. Actually they also killed you on the shipping. I have managed to collect promos copies of all their first four albums including a mono wlp copy of Vincebus Eruptum. I have most of the Mainstream garage/psych lps and the only ones that may be as good as the early Blue Cheer recordings is Lincoln St. Exit and Josefus.
Yeah they are great! Thanks for watching! 🙏
It's all about that diggin'
Did you ever get a chance to listen to that Chris Whitson cassette?? His band?? Just curious
Unfortunately I didn’t
9:47 - Woah! I was just thinking of this one, on something you said about the previous one. Last time I heard of a copy going for a crazy amount was $500 for the exact same 1st pressing. And i would hope that is in close to mint condition as it gets. Maybe because they are the local band. But i have wondered if geography comes down to it. Sure, it may be a rare record here. But is it that rare in Sydney, Australia? And would it be in some dollar bin in decent enough shape there. Which brings up, which version is rare? The original Fonthill pressing. Or the reissued version on London Records that has the different album cover and the re-recording of Rock Star / Flaggit (this is also the same recordings on the single)
But I guess what I am getting at is maybe just a thing that happens here. But sometimes I wonder just how the store works here. Seems like anything rare you shown, would be in the dollar bins. Because no one cares about "obscure album title here" and no one is gonna buy that. But they will definitely buy the white album of the white album. So it's all down to titles. Something I always wanted to do was walk in with 5 or 10 records that are worth 1000's and see what they would say. Probably get anywhere from $5 to $10. Because no one wants or knows "title" and goes right into the cheap bins. Just because its not some big name title.
Well, I think a lot has changed in the past 20 years. People know the rare stuff now because of CZcams, discogs and books. The rare ones sell well in the shop.
I kind of have this philosophy even for reissues of my most wanted records.
To me, a quality reissue at $700 to 800 less would probably be a good deal to me because the originals are dang near impossible to find. But it's the thrill of the hunt to find one mispriced in storage or hiding in a stack of $1 records.
On the corner is so dope
🔥🔥🔥
Half the fun is the hunt, and the best part is finding a rare bird LP in a thrift shop or a dollar bin or in the middle of a polka collection of records
. Not better but the price and collectability of rare records add a gloss to them more well known vinyl lacks . Hence the huge market for these albums and singles . A lovely , artistic and original cover design helps too . l've been a vinyl junkie since 1970 and am constantly amazed at how L.P's that were easily available in those far off days have increased massively in price some of them excellent and some mediocre at best .
That Armageddon LP is one of my favorites in my collection. I guess I have cheap taste in records.
I think some people are jealous obviously. I dig what you're doing--we come from similar backgrounds.
Im just trying to have fun with it!
I would like to know how you know about so many different groups. I am 68 years old and have not heard of many of them.
I just buy a lot of collections and I try to be open to always learning more.
Record collecting will always be a continuous bottomless pit. No one can possibly have a complete collection, since there's always something popping up everyday.
I hope you mentioned to Chad that we need another press of the Classic Records (now that he owns it) cut of Physical Graffiti 😜
Been collecting since 1979, rare or common. Nothing is more important than the music on those records. The music is everything, costs are irrelevant, as long as it thumps.