Photo Finish Collision!
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- čas přidán 1. 06. 2024
- At the finish of this 7.7 nautical mile Farkle race outside Dana Point Harbor in Southern California, Besamé Mucho gets tangled up with Tequila. It could have been much worse, as the tension from each boat tugged in seperate directions, entire rigs were in danger of collapse. Our gybe... and the boom smashing into the port side of the rig released Tequilas backstay which was already hooked onto the end of Besamé Mucho whisker pole. Tequila started the race 9:22 before Besamé Mucho (per PHRF rating) and we finished in a photo finish. That's the way it's supposed to work out.
Amazing how the incident is followed by a good laugh as if this was a normal okay thing. It shows stellar incompetence and rukes ignorance. And no you thought you were going to hit him, in fact you did. Contact would get you a dsq and earn you responsibility to pay for for a rig inspection. Laugh it off all you want, bit i would be so embarassed to post this incident and the cocky laughing it off that follows.
What were you thinking? You were on the Port tack! Give way man! And, for the record, it’s not funny.
Oh man! Scott you captured one a lot of people can learn from. Hopefully both boats did some reading of the RRS after this. 😮 Glad no one was hurt.
It all happened so quickly that you couldn't keep clear?
Did you damage tike la’s 2:18 backstay?
You were overtaking them, so it was your resposibility to avoid a collision.
Bullshit. Both boats were overlapped well before the 3 boatlength zone. The yellow boat has to give way for the other one to finish.
That's a day I won't forget!
Are u saying that that rule 10 only applies if upwind?
The only time rule 10 does not apply is on a downwind finish because the mark, usually the committee boat, is also an obstruction.
@@Airsails We go by RRS 9.1 (a) here, but I've seen SI's that have altered that which takes precedence.
Within three boat-lengths of the mark with overlap. That's room at the mark? It looks like they pushed you up and jibed too late?
Bumper boats?
They should definitely inspect their rig after that.
Rule 18 was violated as the finish buoy is both a mark and an obstruction.
In a downwind leg at the finish port and starboard doesn't matter.
Rule 18.2, right?
The rules are processed top down afaik. As soon as one matches, it is applied. So, rule 10 does apply here. 18.4 is interesting here as well.
@@quantenschaum Rule 10 would apply on a beat to windward but it did not apply in this case because it was a downwind finish. See 18.1 a, 19 and 20.
All apply.
If that was the finish, then rule 18 doesnt apply. Only rule 10 of opposite tacks and possibly 13..the overtaking rule from what i see
This was a downwind finish so rule 10 does not apply.
Since there is a clear overlap entering the zone, what would the best behavior for the POV boat be? I think they should have made it much clearer to the yellow boat that they were entitled to mark room, no? Because it's a little late at the last 10 seconds to go to the other side of the red buoy.
Also for the record, it's not the gybe that caused the collision.
So overall I feel it's the yellow boat's fault but I'm not 100% sure.
Anyway, not a laughing matter, any collision is bad!
Except they were well wide of the mark, and on port tack. I didn't hear them claim an overlap either...
Why film this in vertical format. Sorry never made it to the actual crash.
Because everyone has smartphones..... Lol I agree as a purist.
I was on the boat & I think those of you who were not should talk to the people in the little yellow boat. There's more to the situation than is obvious from the video. 😂
Yeah, there’s a video so… no
IMHO it's your fault! Colregs violated, they were on starboard tack. Was that a race and buoy acted as a mark? Rule 10 was violated as well as rule 18.4 (you should have gybed earlier). How ignorant can one be and laugh about that?
Laughing after deliberately crashing another boat. This behaviour is wrong on so many levels. 1. Admission in the video: "Yes I'm going to hit him." 2. Deliberately crashing a boat. 3. Laughing about it as if someone else's boat damage is some kind of joke. 4. Totally against the law with blatant disregard for Rule number 8 in the Colregs. Action taken to avoid collision. Racers are not absolved from the COLREGS when racing. Nor are they absolved of the observance of good seamanship. Clearly, these people are total amateurs. Professional racers know how to behave on the water.
Overtaking boat has to yield. Bad seamanship.
Neither boat was overtaking the other. They converged at 45° angles to the rhumb line.
Лев галс не уступил.
A protest from the smaller boat will kill the win.
Poor men !
seriously.. poor skipper on overtaking boat
Wrong. Yellow boat violated rule 18.
@@Airsails colregs suggests skipper STILL need to do everything to avoid collision. running into boats "knowingly" is simply bad seamanship regardless.
@@Sailing360 You are right but they put us in a situation where would have hit the giant buoy if we didn't turn and jibe.
Had to choose the lesser of evils.
@@Airsails when you explain it that way - that said - over-taking boat still rammed the boat in front of it, not really hallmarks of good seamanship. but glad you avoided the buoy,
@@Sailing360 They are racing under the International Racing Rules, not the Colregs. There is still a duty to avoid a collision but the rules of racing determine fault here, which are different from the Colreg rules.
Port / Starboard racing 101 plus there was an overlap well outside and inside the 3 boat rule. The yellow boat had full rights and the boat doing the video has no idea - champagne sailors!!!!! Not to mention doing a gybe to "deliberately" hit another boat - Col Regs 101 - that is not avoiding a collision....... If I were the video boat I would not post - no idea and they end up laughing in total ignorance
I will suggest the study of rule 18 before giving any judgment
I don't think so. 3 boat lengths with overlap and on a downwind? I think room at the mark is required if the lower boat has room to fall off. As the boat being pushed up you have to call for room at the mark?
Sounds like you don't do much sailboat racing. On a downwind finish port and starboard do not matter because he finished buoy is a Mark and an obstruction both. Go check your rules buddy
@@CarraroAlberto I don't see how it applies. Rule 18 gives you 3 minutes to look for your ball before your are forced to play a provisional. unfortunately, this is a rule I am very familiar with. On a side note, it's pretty hard to determine from this angle when overlap was established. I'll need to see the helicopter cam footage.
Poor vs rich
Starboard has right of way
Not inside the 3 boatlength zone when overlapped as here.
That was the finish line not a rounding buoy. Starboard has right of way all the way.
@@ianfleming7859 sorry mister…you’re completely wrong
@@boatingallaround5933 must be nice to know it all.
Hope they protested and use the video to disqualify you...go learn regatta rules .
So, guessing you were at fault.
That was a bunch of stupidity just wow