The most forgiving golf club ever made.
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For a driver like this, I'd like to see Rick bring in a high handicapper and do a direct comparison between this and whatever their current driver is. Side by side simulator data would be interesting to look at, especially if they're using something 3+ years old.
I volunteer. It's about time for me to move on from my GBB and forgiveness is at the top of my list
@@steve1085the world has been waiting for Steve
Bring Rob Potter back for reviews!
Completely agree, as a 16 handicapper with a G400 Max would love to see it
As a 30 handicap, new golfer I'd gladly volunteer 🤘 Rick would have to come to Canada though 😅 but I'd be 100% down to test anything and everything he brought though.. my swing is getting really good, but not super consistent yet, so would be a great test
As someone who works in the industry and is privy to new club info. There are 10.5 and 12 degree options for the g430 max 10k. However when then demos were sent out for testing, only the 9 degree was available. So Rick could easily do a follow up video regarding adding more loft. All the way up to 13.5 if he wanted.
I also have tested all the new driver heads for this year and the Ping was far and away the winner. I'm a bogey golfer who normally hits my drives 240 plus but I was getting 5-8 yards more with the lower spin on the 10k. Only 2 drivers that came close to adding that much distance were the Qi10 LS model and the Cobra Darkspeed X. But neither was as forgiving or straight.
The claims for 10k MOI are on off center hits with a perfect swing path. So if your swing path is 0 but you hit it 5cm out of the toe, it doesn’t twist as much at impact which helps the ball go straighter. But if you have an out to in swing path of 5 degrees and a face angle of 0, you will still slice it.
I’d like to see this against the cobra x
I have seen some of the biggest slices amd hooks off these modern “forgiving” drivers
I love it when Rick predicts the next/better version of a club. He's been spot on already. Keep it going Rick👏👏
Hi Rick. Just a thought. Maybe if you want to really have 'forgiveness' test, you can invite any 24 handicapper who is slicing the driver to test out these new the driver. Then we can see is there any difference 😂
It wont be a good marketing campaign for Ping so it will never happen 😅 Ping or whatever golf brand calling their driver "the most forgiving driver on the market"
he isn't sponsored by any of them so they don't get to say if he can do a test like that or not.@@ptlr5592
@ptlr5592 club companies have no say in the content Rick produces
@@BadenAW😂😂😂😂 ans santa is real
You won't see much difference. All you will see is the inconsistent numbers from their dodgy swing. You actually need a fairly consistent swing to gather anyway decent data.
I showed my Dad these videos last year and he ended up getting fitted for the Ping because of your influence and I’ve never seen him so solid with his driver. All I needed to see to know that you know what you’re doing here lol
Great review Rick! Good to see manufacturers realising that keeping the ball on the fairway is as important as distance.
😊improving balance through your swing is just as effective for the average player. After watching Rick's video with Bryson (increasing ball speed) the huge thing I learnt from that video was Bryson pushing off his right foot (ball of his foot) towards his left heel unleashing all that speed with perfect balance. I went to the range and with my G425 max went to work on Bryson's foot balance. It works! I played a few days later at my local course and hit bomb after bomb. A high degree of straightness and 30-40 yards longer. The driver forgivness played its part when 1 came off the heel and another off the toe, shot right and left 50 yards off centre line but much better than bad misses with my "old" swing foot balance. I reckon the effect of pushing off my right foot base of toes towards left heel reduces the chance of my torso either falling forward or backwards to the ball and thereby a greater chance of finding the sweet spot on the driver face. So, balance first, club forgiveness second. Rick, will you be doing a follow up video on your ball speed to show your progress after your lesson with Bryson? ❤
For your forgiveness test, in my opinion it would make so much more sense to focus on toe/heel strikes with a neutral path on the launch monitor rather than just hitting towards a fairway and seeing what happens. Like you said, user error comes into play and the driver can only do what it's told.
Amen, finally a smart person who understands.... What Rick is showing here is absolutely un-concrete. But golf is the most difficult game... such difficult that even making objective reviews of equipment is nearly impossible.
I bought a Ping G430 max 3 wood and 7 wood in the last couple months. I’ve also been doing a lot of drills with swing plane and target line to make sure I have a somewhat fundamentally sound swing. I went with larger grips which I believe help me keep the face more square. How this all pertains to your comment is that I could see my ball marks after hitting on the face and I had plenty off center shots and also some pretty far out towards the heal and toe and saw minimal change in shot shape. Even the club felt solid on impact, if I hadn’t been able to see marks on the face I wouldn’t have known they were off center shots. So much happens in a golf swing it’s hard to say what is ever going on without real data but these are the best woods I’ve ever hit in about 10 years of playing. Still rockin an i25 for the driver though!
This is the problem with all the golf. All testing out there. It's done with a robot hitting the ball perfectly. They won't do golf ball testing on mis hit strikes and slow swing speeds because the supposed top ball won't fair well under those conditions
Did my fitting and compared it to my G430 Max, the 10k was def more forgiving on mishits and I didnt lose as much distance with the 10k compared to the Max. The distance was about the same, I was getting a bit more distance with the 10k due to the roll out. I ended up ordering one because the numbers were just way too good for my swing.
Great review, Rick!
What is your swing speed?
@@todayforlunch3888 My current speeds average around 115mph with the driver, I have been able to squeeze a few up to around 118 when I really go after it (at least during the fitting I had a few at 118).
When I seen mishits, I couldn't help but hear it in a Scotch Irish accent ... My$hits... 😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅
@@todayforlunch3888 Also would like to know, but if you're buying a "max" model, you're usually not someone with screaming speed.
Club tech does seem to be getting very incremental at this point. I do like my newer ping woods... (429 and 430) .. They are absolutely forgiving
I swing 105 on a good day but generally 101ish at the moment, i have a lot of speed to pick back up (neck surgery destroyed my core strength, i'm still working on it and have a lot of room for "easy" gains still, so that 100 def is not "trying to swing out of my shoes" ... I'm very deliberate about form and not hurting myself sometimes that means 95-98 mph until i have core built back up. I'm playing for myself, not for money, so i listen to my body and take it easy if I feel at all like i could aggrivate muscle groups that i'm still working on gettting recovered.
Your reviews are amazing Rick. It is incredible how you can make your reviews so helpful and interesting that I rewatch all of the millions of times🎉
I picked up the G425Max about a month ago, have played maybe 8 rounds with it, and it has drastically changed my game. I went from spinny sliced 180 drives to 220-240 down the middle. Ping makes amazing woods and the 3 wood will be my next purchase after I pumped my friends 3 wood 210 off the fairway. Not bad for a old man, not really (45), with 2 bad hips.
I have been using a G425 Max and absolutely love it. I am sure this is also great. This is expensive but I have seen that Ping’s are normally worth it
same, picked up a used on and has been amazing. not the furthest driver ever but for sure most forgiving driver i have ever owned.
I’m glad companies are actually making advancements in performance and not their marketing team
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Did you even watch it? Its average and £600 😂
@@camobambo2992lmao you corrected it first!?🤣🤣🤣
I just got a ping hybrid and it’s my favorite club in the bag, so forgiving and easy to hit. I need that type of comfort off the tee!!
I love your videos so much and your reviews on clubs are great for people like me making there dream bag… also love ur content with other creators which makes it different from ur regular videos but adds an even bigger sense of excitement!!!
Great video rick, would love to see this against the qi10
love Ping drivers, hard to change from my 425 though!
I love how with all the newer and creative head designs. Ping always goes back to black heads. I think it looks the best.
This was the video I was looking forward to the most. Seeing what kind of forgiveness this provides.
I’ve been wondering why my current gamer, PXG 0811 XF gen2, gets no love in the MOI conversation. It breached 10K 5 years ago, when it slightly beat out the G400. Would love to see a G430 max 10K versus G400 comparison video!
Wow I am actually surprised after watching this. I have a G430 currently and I love it, granted to get the forgiveness I wanted I had to turn the loft up to 10.5°. I really was expecting this new G430 to do way better. With that price tag to I think I’d lead more towards the Qi10. Excited to watch the full comparison video with all the new drivers.
Fix your swing first, then think about the equipment. If you don't score lower than 80 with even a 2000-2010 equipment, I seriously don't see how buying the "next year" driver can help you. You're wasting money!!! Use it more wisely, pay a teacher friend, or a better one!
@@mariooo88Wrong. I just tested the G430 10k against my TSi1 gamer and the Ping was better in every department. I'm a 10hc.
@@TheflyingkiwiRC At 10 handicap, I guess you still think the clubhead is more important than the shaft :) I'm a 2hcp!
Love your videos and thank you for all of the details on the new Ping driver.
Got genuinely excited when I saw you'd posted. Thanks for being so thorough and entertaining as always Rick!
I’d love a comparison with the O.G. 10k driver the g400 max. Keep up the good work
G400 Max was 9900 MOI, so I wouldn't expect a huge difference when it comes to forgiveness.
Can you test this against the ping g 400 max which had 10k moi to see the difference?
Glad to hear you're working on a direct comparison video. Excited to see it!
I need one of these!!! Keep up the good work Rick! 🏌️♂️⛳️
Rick, you are clearly a well experienced and low handicap golfer, unlike some of us who follow you. So why not as a video trial, get 2 or 3 off the street golfers say 22+ handicappers, and get them to test the driver? That way we can see a more realistic result from acclaimed marketing by PING and other manufacturers , that make these somewhat unrealistic claims about their products.
The price hurts to look at, but Ping knows that they are ahead of the others in terms of forgiveness. I would love to have this driver in my bag.
I got fitted for the 430 last year, hated it, too spinny, but the good news was, I sold it for more than I paid for it. I got a great deal when buying it as I purchased irons at the same time, so got a package deal. They do hold their price, but you really need to be sure its suits you, I now have a Titleist TSR 2, its long, straight and very forgiving, wouldn’t swap for a Ping.
@@Pud56you needed a lower lift and a low spin shaft. Maybe a little stiffer.
@Pud56 Those that have a Titleist driver just know. The G430 10k looks fantastic but my current gamer TSi1 is still straight and long.
@@unloughfulgaming , I play low single figures and have for over 40 years, after a medical incident, needed to revisit my equipment. I still play stiff shafts, and according to my coach swing it well. My TSR doesn’t pop up with spin, the 430 was insipid, typical rear weighted club. Definitely had a poor fitting, actually it was just a sales exercise. I know others that say it’s a spinny driver, and why would Ping launch a new version after 12 months rather than their usual 24? It seems they focus on how the 10k spins less, says something.
@@Pud56i felt the same. I kept pushing the G430 to the right but the TSR 2 was much straighter. I am happy with the TSR!
YES! So glad to see the 430 review, and I cant wait to see the head to heads with other drivers!
Would love to add a club like this to my bag!
Thanks for all of these reviews recently Rick!!
That price is nuts. Who has that money for one club?! That said, I'd love to see you run it against the TM, and the Callaway. I'd leave the Cobra out, since they aren't selling forgivness this year. Just my thoughts! Keep it up!
Idk about anyone else, but I’m very interested to see what driver Rick chooses from these reviews for his actual driver this year!
I think this videos tells you your answer mate! He was doing giveaways for all the other drivers, but not the Ping, and Rick has been a Ping guy for a few years now...
After listening to his podcast, it really sounds like he's high on the Cobra Darkspeed.
Thanks for all these product reviews, Rick. Really helps me make informed decisions.
Thanks Rick, always appreciate your candid analysis. I'm in the market for a new driver and really like the Ping equipment. I'm going to go check this one out for me.
I hope nobody buys it as £600 is ridiculous !!!
Always loved cobra looks but these do look insane, it's great to see RS club reviews back and loved the review on these clubs, would look stunning in my bag!
Love these driver test videos, good to see the performance of the new ones coming out.
Ping keeps on delivering! Awesome work again Rick.
I've never put a Ping club in the bag but this one looks very nice! Might have to buy the RS headcover as well because I have the same initials😅
Another great video Rick! Love your club reviews
Keep the great content coming Rick, I love the channel!
Another fantastic review! Would love to see an updated what’s in the bag now that all of the big brands have released their 2024 woods.
Great reviews and great videos all around!!! Love your channel
Would love to see a video all on driver loft. Switching it around from 7 degrees all the way to 15 degrees. And how it affects ball position, hitting, flight etc. And what loft is better suited. I never thought loft would be my "friend" to get more forgiveness
I really enjoy your reviews. I like the very honest opinion you deliver. Thanks Rick
Love all your vids Rick! Keep em coming!
Looks amazing definitely have a look at my options for a new driver this year.
I used to have a Ping driver and love it. I like the look of this one better than previous models.
I love my Ping G425 - don't see a need to upgrade just yet, but I do love the look of this version (and I actually like the Ping sound) I'd really like to see the tests of all the new drivers with a high-handicapper in the mix.
Such a nice finish !!! Great review Rick 👌👊🏻
Thanks for the good editing and side by side
Keen to see the results of this up against the other forgiving drivers & the 2023 430.....another great video Rick.
Great review Rick. I’d like to see you get a driver fitting with the head you want and for you to try out some different shafts. I reckon you could then end up with a great combo.
Great review as always Rick. beautiful club
Hi Rick - another great review. Would be good to put this against the G430 from last year and the new Qi10 (the mid model - not super forgiving or lst model) - same day , same swing speed ....
I like the merch plug, nicely done!
My 16yr old son recently picked up this driver in a PING tour Chrome 2.0 stiff shaft and it’s made a ton of difference in his confidence from the tee. The weight is currently setting in the Draw setting and seems to have made all the difference.
Thanks for the Driver reviews Rick. Keep up the good work!
Love the videos Rick can’t wait for other releases.
Another great video Rick! Glad you don’t try to lie to us and keep it real.
Guess I'll wait another year! I've been rocking the G15 driver for 10 years now! Was looking at the g430 already will definitely try this one!
With prices still rocketing, would love to see some head-to-head comparisons with Direct-to-consumer brand drivers (Caley, Takomo, Haywood etc).
Thanks for the review Rick, always very enjoyable!
Love the review as always. Thanks much.
Rick- love your honest reviews. Got a question for you.. I can see MOI helping with off center hits (heel vs toe) in forgiveness, but how does it stack up against errors in swing path and attack angles? Would be awesome if you included some exaggerated tests on swing path effects when testing these new "forgiveness" oriented drivers.
No club can fix an open face or a closed path! That's up to the person swinging. As you say, forgiving clubs are about MOI.
Seems like a good driver (G425 Maxx in my bag) but I would love to see a video on the Blueprint S irons specifically as that is the set I just started looking at and would love to compare them with the G430 irons
Great review Rick. Would love to have this driver in my bag!
Great review, as always, Rick. Blessings, mate.
Another great review, would love to see how this compares to the more affordable Cleveland Launcher XL which I got
I love my G425 Max and would love to try this one!
Love this driver!!! Keep up the good work Rick!!! Love the reviews!!!
Thanks for the insight Rick
Nice looking driver. Thanks as always Rick for these vieeos
Rick your just the best you make golf a lot more fun to watch your videos are amazing
Love the Ping golf clubs. Only missing the driver in the bag. Hope to win one!
Looks amazing!!! Would love to have one🎉🎉
I tried this in the fall and with 10 balls on the launch monitor, they were all within 4.8 yards of distance and 4.2 yards of dispersion laterally. This club is incredible.
Rick great review! Being a club fitter I hit the Ping 10k and it was a good driver. I compared it to the Qi10 max and I’ve never been so impressed with a drivers forgiveness. Intentionally missing on the toe and heel it was incredibly stable.
Which one were you impressed with? The ping or the Qi10?
Thanks again Rick. Love your videos and value your opinion.
Thanks for the honest review Rick, great content
Oh my. What a beauty. Love the content as always mate
Hey Rick, I recently got fit and did a lot of research around the ping drivers. The G430 was way better than the G425 for me, I don’t know if it was available shafts, but wondering if the shaft you are using since it is not available as a offering from ping is ideal with the head. May want to check that out as well!
I bought a 16* SLDR head and used it to build a driver for my wife who just started playing golf last year. Amazing driver for her, gets the ball up in the air much better than the standard 12* that came in her first all-in-one sets.
Great vid!! And a real solid 75 in those conditions.
Thanks for the review, Rick!
Love the look of the top on the ping drivers
Thanks Rick. This is a driver I am looking forward to. I very much appreciate your detailed review.
Hi Rick. I note your comments about the SDLR TaylorMade. Yes it had more loft but it also had a shorter shaft length which was a significant factor in the club’s performance. Presumably you’re not suggesting Ping should do the same? If so it would probably loose 20+ yards
i got the 430 max and i absolutely love it.. never had or used ping equipment till last month and im sold
I have also loved ping and would love to start playing one again. I would love to be able to start playing this
THIS is the one ive been waiting for great video Rick
I'm going to have to look into this for my dad. He loves his ping clubs.
Love my ping G410 and it's new big brother looks even sweeter
Just curious if Changing the shaft and weight of the shaft, would this affect the moi?
Great video. Looking forward to the head to head Ping vs Cobra
Great video good luck with the drive
Love the ping drivers, they always look so good
love the looks of it , as a high handicaper I need this
Great video. Keep up the good work! 👍