Thanks for the support everyone! Another Round made an epic video showcasing the flight of Eco Pure's that you can find here: instagram.com/tv/CRzvL2xJjo7/
Ever since I started putting with Eco Plastic I get more birdies. That’s a 10000% guarantee. Trust me, your game and the environment will thank you. (Plus it beats into to be super grippy)
@@GreatMasterNCA hahaha just love the plastic. It’s honestly unlike anything else! It’s baseline feel and flight, but you can rework and shape it if it gets warped. So awesome!
Dude your awesome you're like the exact opposite of me, thanks for picking up my trash I left behind, I didn't want it in my bag due to the extra weight and odor. I'm usually snacking on the course with Limburger cheese. I had no idea there was a used disc golf market I've been throwing away disc I don't like in the garbage for 2 decades now. Sometimes when they get muddy I don't want to waste water resources cleaning them so I just throw them out and buy a brand new one. Anyway we should play round together someday ✌😉
Kinda funny to see you say something about AGL and then today while out playing a round at the local course I ran into one of their sponsored players and got to try out a few discs. They sound like an awesome company and the discs are pretty nice too
Awesome review, very well worked out. Now I want to try out the Latitude Eco line. Tbh, my experience with Latitude had me sold before I saw this video though...
Hek Yeah, Im trying to get both of my brothers into DG. Eco starter packs would be the best inexpensive possible gift I could imagine getting them. Great content as always!
SO GOOD. Looove this! Awesome work, Jesse. Super clear explanation on the plastics, thanks for that. I'll be trying out the Eco Pure, definitely. Zero Medium Pure is my current putter. (And of course, leave it to Jonathan to be able to find a Lat 64 disc at their own factory 😂). So happy to see good things happening for you and your channel, you deserve it, man. Doing great things for the sport and the planet. Take care!
Just want to say that I bought one of the yellow eco pures from Another Round when you first mentioned it to show some support to both the bioplastic and you and damn if it isn't one of my new favorite discs. This thing just flies even for someone like me who doesn't have great distance or notable putting.
I can see the PDGA banning certain material compositions at some point. Not this year and maybe not in the next 5 years but at some point we need to do something about this.
Latitude 64, Eco stater packs would be great. I just started and would have bought that first off instead of the starter pack I did buy. Heading to Another Round now to buy one of the Eco’s.
"Making plastic uses too much crude oil" Oil isn't used to make only one product, refining crude oil creates resources to create lot of different things. Basically plastic is a byproduct of fuel, so as long as there is fuel, there is plastic.
You’re the man James! There were a few other “eco-friendly” options in the past and current, but there haven’t been any bio plastic options to my knowledge.
Love Jonathan and his channel....am i a bit upset he got better than me so quickly lol yes yes i am. Now that you know Jonathan maybe you can get some tips from Jonathan about making your discs.
I got some Exo Pures second hand (recycled and reused?) and I love them. Mold is so nice and glidey and I love the stiff plastic for putting. And it's not just Johnathan, it's tough finding Zero Hard Pures out there that aren't Burst. No worries for me though, I will be getting a stack of Eco Pures soon.
Great video as always! I'm so torn. I want to change putters over to Warlocks or something made in the Hemp Blend for sustainability, but I also want to wait until your putters come out and I can order 10 of those 😭😭😭😭
Great video, I'm a huge L64 fan so happy to see this. I'm curious what it would take to make a more premium style plastic from a bio-oil. I'm a little familiar with the stuff as I did my grad research with biodiesel.
As a dissenting opinion, I despise the way the eco pure feels, i throw pures, in gold line burst and zero soft, as I like softer plastics for my style of release, the eco line had me excited as at some point I'll be gone and the pures I've owned will still be here. The eco line however doesn't release the same for my hand, it comes out a lot slicker and a lot less consistently. Just something to look out for, as I think it's really good on latitude is trying this, but unless there is a way to have a softer eco plastic, it sadly won't find a way into my bag. I still recommend the disc to beginners, but it is something to consider if you are someone who wants a bit of give when gripping a disc.
Great video! As a new disc golfer who is also interested in developing sustainable habits, I think you present some of the best content out there. Do you have any plans to discus MVP's new R2 disc? I don't believe they are made from post consumer waste, but they seem like another good option for more responsible discs. I'd love to hear your thoughts.
The junior worlds players pack had an option to get a warship with this plastic. I got it and it is a good plastic. Similar to KC pro tbh, or like 2018’s dx plastic (they used to be different)
Hopefully they are not using palm oil to make this plastic that would be a sidestep or even step backwards IMO. Is there more Info on latitudes sourcing of materials? (about to check your link about bio plastics.)
I feel like I would be more on board if they were grinding up old discs or something. I know that’s super hard to do at scale, but would really be something
It's late 2022. I just went to their store and although if you look real hard there are a couple of discs to be found in this plastic, the plastic itself is not even listed in their huge Plastic Guide (15 types of plastic, non of them marked by recycling codes, it appears). So as a somewhat misanthropic cynic I have a guess why is that: there is a) no demand and b) they don't care. Probably they released this to please some random "fools" like us, and that was it. Nobody in the DG world cares about plastic pollution or sustainable development, except for this tiny company that is Trash Panda. That's by far the biggest flaw of this sport.
"Oftentimes, sustainable alternatives can be more expensive and not as good, but that is clearly not true for Latitude's Eco plastic." I guess the "not as good" part is not true, but the "more expensive" part is. It's $2/disc more expensive than the zero line, and $3/disc more expensive than the retro line. It's a conscious decision to make the greener choice more expensive.
phys.org/news/2017-12-truth-bioplastics.html An interesting article that discusses some of the broader ramifications of bioplastics. Absolutely love what you are doing with your efforts, just hope folks don’t assume that “bio” is, in all respects, a panacea for the problems caused by a disposable economy. But no doubt I will be considering how disc manufacturers move forward in this area before buying that next disc.
Thanks for the article Bob! I couldn’t agree more. This is not THE final step, but it’s a massive step! (I talked about the cons more in my “Making a Biodegradable Disc” video too)
(This is not hate) How does it actually help the planet? From my understanding the plastic only matters if it is recycled at the end of its use, and that is the benefit of ECO. The old head on my home course only uses two discs. His carbon footprint is a sliver of yours. Again no hate.
Cool Video! I make disc graphics and I am currently trying to make my own disc after a lot of study. If you need help with merch designs or disc designs, (For free) let me know! Would love to collab. Also, merch can be made easy using printify. Upload your art and place it on any merch you want for free. Then people can buy it and Printify will make the merch and send it. So you only get charged for when something is bought, but then make money since you mark up the cost. Happy to help!
Man Eco is not good . I hit a tree once the disc became a pringles chip , no grip, nada. Hit the cage... massive dents instantly . I bought 3 of them so Donated the other two. Sorry but junk.
Thanks for the support everyone! Another Round made an epic video showcasing the flight of Eco Pure's that you can find here: instagram.com/tv/CRzvL2xJjo7/
Yaaay. Great video, man! 😀🤘❤
Can't wait to see more videos from you lol
So... Eco starter packs? I would try to get my club to switch to them for our local teaching events
+1 vote for Eco Starter packs - tell your boss... or bosses
Jonathan is such a good dude. Happy to see the “collab”
Ever since I started putting with Eco Plastic I get more birdies. That’s a 10000% guarantee. Trust me, your game and the environment will thank you. (Plus it beats into to be super grippy)
You should be charging for endorsements, bud!
@@GreatMasterNCA hahaha just love the plastic. It’s honestly unlike anything else! It’s baseline feel and flight, but you can rework and shape it if it gets warped. So awesome!
Tell that to the 30 trees I’ve smashed so far
How much did they pay you? 🤫
Eco Starter Packs for sure! #makingmoves
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I would 100% buy an eco starter just to get a saint and a fuse in this plastic
Sounds awesome, and I’m very jealous of “my friend Jonathan”.
It’s an honor to call him a friend 🙏🏼
Awesome video... it was kind of a shock to see Jonathan at the first of video, I had to look down and make sure I was on the right channel lol
He’s the best ♥️
I love all the collaborations that are happening right now. It's more than a ripple! So stoked for what you've been doing!
You’re the man Sean!
Eco starter packs in recycled packaging is the better move. So much extra packaging that comes with those starter packs!
This years trilogy challenge has emac judges in eco plastic. Thought of you when I first found out and I honestly didn't mind the feel of the plastic.
Eco Emacs are 🔥
@@TrashPandaDiscGolf say it louder for the friends in the back!!
Having some full eco trilogy challenges would be sick!
I'm here for eco emacs. Where do I get one?!
Can’t wait to see disc golf grow, and more importantly, grow sustainably!
Dude your awesome you're like the exact opposite of me, thanks for picking up my trash I left behind, I didn't want it in my bag due to the extra weight and odor. I'm usually snacking on the course with Limburger cheese.
I had no idea there was a used disc golf market I've been throwing away disc I don't like in the garbage for 2 decades now.
Sometimes when they get muddy I don't want to waste water resources cleaning them so I just throw them out and buy a brand new one.
Anyway we should play round together someday ✌😉
This is such awesome cross-over content. I'm excited to see the line expand.
Jonathan and Jesse? My two favorite disc golf CZcamsrs!
Right?!
Hopefully you can get some MVP R2 discs to check out since those are also new to the reused plastic field.
Love the videos!
😏
I love throwing my eco pure it is great off the tee. I feel an ace coming with it.
Same!!! It’s my go-to thrower now.
I think all disc golf manufacturers should be doing this!
That's pretty cool that they are reaching out to you.
Johnathan cracks me up. I absolutely love his videos. Good to see yall working together.
Great video! Latitude 64 should create a “Personal Message From Jonathan” line. We would buy several!
Best. Collab. Ever.
Kinda funny to see you say something about AGL and then today while out playing a round at the local course I ran into one of their sponsored players and got to try out a few discs. They sound like an awesome company and the discs are pretty nice too
Hey, it's Jonathan!
Oh, and a lesson about plastics. Something I know little about as a beginner at disc golf.
I really like my ego Pure. Exactly as you said, it's a great throwing plastic. I would buy this plastic in my favorite molds for sure
Awesome review, very well worked out.
Now I want to try out the Latitude Eco line. Tbh, my experience with Latitude had me sold before I saw this video though...
Hope other brands start getting in on this as well. Would love a pig and banger in eco plastic
Hek Yeah, Im trying to get both of my brothers into DG. Eco starter packs would be the best inexpensive possible gift I could imagine getting them. Great content as always!
Another banger video from Jesse. These videos don't miss! Keep up the great work my man
Too kind bro 🤘🏼
SO GOOD. Looove this! Awesome work, Jesse. Super clear explanation on the plastics, thanks for that. I'll be trying out the Eco Pure, definitely. Zero Medium Pure is my current putter. (And of course, leave it to Jonathan to be able to find a Lat 64 disc at their own factory 😂). So happy to see good things happening for you and your channel, you deserve it, man. Doing great things for the sport and the planet. Take care!
Just want to say that I bought one of the yellow eco pures from Another Round when you first mentioned it to show some support to both the bioplastic and you and damn if it isn't one of my new favorite discs. This thing just flies even for someone like me who doesn't have great distance or notable putting.
Thanks a ton for the support Scott! And that’s super rad to hear 👏🏼
You deserve more subscribers! This is something I can get behind. Once I wear out my Links I will give these a go.
Thanks Jared! You may like Eco Emac Judges too 🤘🏼
Saw Jonathan and instantly liked the video! 🤣
Ha same here!
I have an Eco Warship and that feels really good to me since I like the extra grip of baseline plastic on midrange discs.
I can see the PDGA banning certain material compositions at some point. Not this year and maybe not in the next 5 years but at some point we need to do something about this.
Latitude 64, Eco stater packs would be great. I just started and would have bought that first off instead of the starter pack I did buy. Heading to Another Round now to buy one of the Eco’s.
Thanks Mark!!
"Making plastic uses too much crude oil"
Oil isn't used to make only one product, refining crude oil creates resources to create lot of different things. Basically plastic is a byproduct of fuel, so as long as there is fuel, there is plastic.
Wasn’t sure about the eco emac when I got it. It has made the bag and is really holding up well. Good stuff.
Love your visions. :)
I have 4 Pures that are labeled Recycled (not ECO) ... I bought these back in 2015-16 ish ... I do love throwing Pures.
I think most ECO products fall short of the demand. Excited to see how players respond. Keep up the grind.
I may have to pick an eco pure pretty soon! I kinda wish they were grippier, but I'm definitely willing to try it and maybe I'll get used to it!
Great vid, love the colab. I remember another company had made eco discs like 10 years ago, but I think they may have stopped😭🤔
You’re the man James! There were a few other “eco-friendly” options in the past and current, but there haven’t been any bio plastic options to my knowledge.
@@TrashPandaDiscGolf Ah, thank you. I love the way you promote the sport. Much respect.
I like Biofuzion from Dynamic. That's some good stuff as well. Don't know how it's made though.
Love Jonathan and his channel....am i a bit upset he got better than me so quickly lol yes yes i am. Now that you know Jonathan maybe you can get some tips from Jonathan about making your discs.
Any news on an eco fuse???? If this feels like test Material I'd buy hundreds
I got some Exo Pures second hand (recycled and reused?) and I love them. Mold is so nice and glidey and I love the stiff plastic for putting.
And it's not just Johnathan, it's tough finding Zero Hard Pures out there that aren't Burst. No worries for me though, I will be getting a stack of Eco Pures soon.
That’s some next level sustainability 👏🏼
Great video as always! I'm so torn. I want to change putters over to Warlocks or something made in the Hemp Blend for sustainability, but I also want to wait until your putters come out and I can order 10 of those 😭😭😭😭
Thanks David! That’s a pickle 🤣
Those almost 2 aces! 😳
Great video, I'm a huge L64 fan so happy to see this. I'm curious what it would take to make a more premium style plastic from a bio-oil. I'm a little familiar with the stuff as I did my grad research with biodiesel.
Eco starter packs, please. I want to get my two niece kits and Eco would have been the way.
As a dissenting opinion, I despise the way the eco pure feels, i throw pures, in gold line burst and zero soft, as I like softer plastics for my style of release, the eco line had me excited as at some point I'll be gone and the pures I've owned will still be here.
The eco line however doesn't release the same for my hand, it comes out a lot slicker and a lot less consistently. Just something to look out for, as I think it's really good on latitude is trying this, but unless there is a way to have a softer eco plastic, it sadly won't find a way into my bag. I still recommend the disc to beginners, but it is something to consider if you are someone who wants a bit of give when gripping a disc.
I’m on a quest to collect all the Pures (have four different plastic types already) so I’m sure I’ll pick one up at some point haha
Much proud. Keep drinking Stone Brewing :D.
You should do another video on the mvp recycled plastic putters
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Trash panda calendar idea... "Putt Butts"
🤣🤦🏻♂️
Great video! As a new disc golfer who is also interested in developing sustainable habits, I think you present some of the best content out there. Do you have any plans to discus MVP's new R2 disc? I don't believe they are made from post consumer waste, but they seem like another good option for more responsible discs. I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Could you please do a review on the new MVP r2 plastic
MVP R2 next, please!
Knuckle tattoo?? Do spill the beans on that story!
Eco starter packs…brilliant!
Great review, throwing Judges now but will cycle them out for Eco plastic over time.
Thanks Patrick! Eco Emac Judges are a current option too, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Eco Judges soon!
The junior worlds players pack had an option to get a warship with this plastic. I got it and it is a good plastic. Similar to KC pro tbh, or like 2018’s dx plastic (they used to be different)
Totally agree on the KC Pro!
You would think that a material that is renewable would cost less than a material that is running out.
Hey....is that elbow back a little extra from your previous videos?
Hope all is well, haven't got video from you lately...
Eco starter packs would be awesome @latitude64
Hopefully they are not using palm oil to make this plastic that would be a sidestep or even step backwards IMO. Is there more Info on latitudes sourcing of materials? (about to check your link about bio plastics.)
Love the channel.
I feel like I would be more on board if they were grinding up old discs or something. I know that’s super hard to do at scale, but would really be something
A circular system in disc golf will happen in the future! We’ll make sure of it.
Some manufacturers do this with off spec discs rather than just dispose of them at least (baby step.)
so it sounds like the best solution to saving the environment is perfecting form (less lost discs)
🤣 #fairwayhitsonly
eco has a nice firmness and has a good grip feeling but I think it wears in way too fast imo
Disc says nyeeeooowwmmm
It's late 2022. I just went to their store and although if you look real hard there are a couple of discs to be found in this plastic, the plastic itself is not even listed in their huge Plastic Guide (15 types of plastic, non of them marked by recycling codes, it appears). So as a somewhat misanthropic cynic I have a guess why is that: there is a) no demand and b) they don't care. Probably they released this to please some random "fools" like us, and that was it. Nobody in the DG world cares about plastic pollution or sustainable development, except for this tiny company that is Trash Panda. That's by far the biggest flaw of this sport.
*Eco-Ninja Starter Pack*
"Where did that come from, or was it here the whole time?"
what sport?
what did i miss?
Can you dye eco plastic? I sure would like to try it.
My buddy Sean (@discoverlocaldg on Insta) just dyed one and it came out amazing!
The best thing you can do for the environment is probably buy premium plastics and use them until they have no more usefulness
Or better yet, buy used
"Oftentimes, sustainable alternatives can be more expensive and not as good, but that is clearly not true for Latitude's Eco plastic."
I guess the "not as good" part is not true, but the "more expensive" part is. It's $2/disc more expensive than the zero line, and $3/disc more expensive than the retro line. It's a conscious decision to make the greener choice more expensive.
Subscribed thanks to Jonathan @ Latitude 64
Is plasctic a brand or type of plastic?
Type
@@qlogic2002 ah ok.
phys.org/news/2017-12-truth-bioplastics.html
An interesting article that discusses some of the broader ramifications of bioplastics. Absolutely love what you are doing with your efforts, just hope folks don’t assume that “bio” is, in all respects, a panacea for the problems caused by a disposable economy. But no doubt I will be considering how disc manufacturers move forward in this area before buying that next disc.
Thanks for the article Bob! I couldn’t agree more. This is not THE final step, but it’s a massive step! (I talked about the cons more in my “Making a Biodegradable Disc” video too)
(This is not hate) How does it actually help the planet? From my understanding the plastic only matters if it is recycled at the end of its use, and that is the benefit of ECO. The old head on my home course only uses two discs. His carbon footprint is a sliver of yours. Again no hate.
ECO FUSE.....ECO FUSE........ECO FUSE
Cool Video! I make disc graphics and I am currently trying to make my own disc after a lot of study. If you need help with merch designs or disc designs, (For free) let me know! Would love to collab. Also, merch can be made easy using printify. Upload your art and place it on any merch you want for free. Then people can buy it and Printify will make the merch and send it. So you only get charged for when something is bought, but then make money since you mark up the cost. Happy to help!
Man Eco is not good . I hit a tree once the disc became a pringles chip , no grip, nada. Hit the cage... massive dents instantly . I bought 3 of them so Donated the other two. Sorry but junk.
Do you think this dude actually talks like this?