The SPRUT Gets The "Biased" Buff Ft. 3BM60 - 2S25M - War Thunder
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- čas přidán 26. 01. 2024
- The 2S25M gets the "Biased" treatment by not only receiving a significant buff to firepower, all while remaining at it's exact same BR.
(Unlike the AGS)
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3BM60 at 10.0 is crazyyy
then whats the new one with 700mm on 10.0 too ?
I mean that changes nothing. I play that thing for a long time now, Stock 3bm42 is already more than enough for 10.0, 3bm46 was absolutely cracked.
@@vaclavkolar6750 cracked is that the leopard2 got 650mm pen while no one else even got near, for example chinese and russian tanks have far worse pen values somewhere around 570mm and are the same BR thats not fair either.
@@STRYKER1467 true, leo 2a5/6/7 and strv 122s are impossible to oneshot, its kinda annoying as fuck
@@vaclavkolar6750 you’re just shit, aim for the left side of the hull and they’re an easy one shot
I wish that we had more Swiss vehicles in the game, like the G-13 (Hetzer armed with the 75mm KwK 40 gun), Nahkampfkanone 1, Nahkampfkanone 2, Panzer 58, Panzer 61, Panzer 68, Fliegerabwehrpanzer 68 (Panzer 68 with the Gepard turret), Panzerkanone 68 (Panzer 68 chassis with a 150mm howitzer), and Panzer 87 (Leopard 2).
Perfect subtree for France
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Subtree for France or Italy
Subtree for Germany
Loved being able to play with you man, genuinely a good content creator too.
tbh the 3bm60 does not change anything for it since 3bm46 already shreds everything at that br if they want to increase its br. they have to buff the vertical targeting speed
not as much as how bad its armor is
getting .50 cal-ed is just not for top tier
@@mmneaapro596 its a light tank.. You have the mobility, thermals, gun handling and profile to avoid getting shot
@wg4112 it does not have good gun handling and it's as fast as a all the other russian tanks not that great
@@cactus_playz9856 it has 70 forward 20 reverse with a 24.5 hp/ton ratio its pretty mobile
@@wg4112 *27 hp/t
What I really like about both of the Spruts is that you can upper or lower your suspension, which can be super useful on maps like Aral Sea when you´re hulldown capping B and just need that tiny bit of extra elevation to shoot from your position. Or on city maps you lower the suspension all the way down and go a tiny bit back up for better driving comfort. It´s not as versatile as the BMP-3 suspension unfortunately so no extra gun depression, but then it probably wouldn´t sit at 10.0 anyways.
Edit*: In my opinion this tank was already stronk af with 3BM46 and those super tasty thermals, but now it´s an absolute unit.
I heard sprut should be able to lean towards with suspension like bmp-3 giving it more depression. If that's true, I wish they fixed it
The BMP-3's suspension is the same as the Sprut's, im pretty sure
wassup Justin, glad to see the content bustling as always. Carry on and tank on!
Hey Justin, noticed you hit 75k. Congrats! Been here since 40k. Can’t wait to see you hit 100k
Man I know 2S25M Is glass cannon but 3BM60 is too much. I loved 3BM46 because it's such a well balanced round between penetration and post-pen damage
3BM60 have worst post pen damage compared to 3BM46?
@@AZ-dj1nino, it’s just more balanced than 3BM60. The only thing any country has comparable to the 2S25M was the M1128, which has M900. Comparing to the 2S25M (with only 3BM46), the M1128 has a 0.4 sec worse reload, 10mm less pen, no ATGM’s, and a mm of pen/second ratio of 69.6. The 2S25M (with only 3BM46) has a mm of pen/second of 74.9 while also having a larger diameter gun with more post pen damage (and it can store over twice as much ammo as the M1128). The 2S25M with 3BM60 now gets a mm of pen per second ratio of 81.7.
@@Iden_in_the_Rain how fast is the m1128? the sprut is pretty slow for a light tank, and i think speed is pretty important position early game
@@Iden_in_the_Rainm900 has an unmanned turret and better .50 cal protection which is pretty important. it’s also faster
@@Iden_in_the_Rain m1128 also is faster, better gun depression and is harder to kill along with having an unmanned turret which means it can just only expose its turret and it is unable to be killed, unlike the sprut
!14:11 Oohh Noo!! The Teddy bear just got shot off ur tonk LOL
Love that "hot knife through butter" phrase. lol Haven't heard it for a long long time.
I love this thing and I'd go as far to put in my top 5 of some of the best light tanks in the game, for 10,0 the best thing they could have done is not give it 3BM60 but buff its vertical targeting speed which if you ask me is the one thing that slightly holds it down. This is a classic example of Gaijin being extremely sort sighted. Now this tank should go up in br at 10.7 but I think they should still buff its vertial targeting speed, this has potential to be so much better and it takes only thing.
the f4e got gun ballistics for the radar now which makes it much much better
It might not have the best gun depression but (i think) it has adjustable suspension to counter it!
Thats fucking crazy. Let’s give this 10.0 light a 580 pen shell but M8 still cant have M900
m8?
XM8?
And the ags at 11.0 with m833 like that makes a fucking difference
@@williewilson2250 Fr bro gaijin is actually mentally handicapped
AGS should get M900 at 11.0. Though if the XM8/CCVL have M900 they'd be miles better than the 2S25M. I played all 3 extensively and the downsides of the 2S25M are bad and is mainly good at sniping. CQC XM8/CCVL are so much better.
Son of Object 120, pen everything at that br😬😬😬
hey Justin could you maybe do a video on the T-72M2 moderna to show how much of a powerhouse Russia 10.0/10.3 already is even without the obj 292 ?
It is not shown on any war thunder channel that the height and height adjustments of 2S25M, BMP-3 and BMD 4 Vehicles are made with hydraulic pneumatic shock absorbers. :D
Not sure is he said this at any point but this thing also has commander thermal which is always super helpful.
dont forget it has hydropneumatic suspention, but you can only go up and down.
I just want the historical vertical gun laying drive for this thing. There's literally a clip out there of a Russian 2S25 crew saying, and i quote, translated from Russian "The cannon can aim at 24 degrees per second on the vertical axis"
with the lack of spotters in high tiers, it is a great buff tbh. Having spot ability in high tiers is very crucial especially in early game, prevents you and your team from getting mopped out the floor in the first minute. And to be more aware of flankers in mid and late match
Justin, do you know what the best use for those drones are? Taking down helis with them, all you gotta do is smack them with the drone and it takes them down.
2s25m has a worse reverse gear than 2s25 but yeah they’re pretty much the same other than that
9:42 it went to the square hole!
By chance I enjoyed this video
US rank 6 got nerfed to hell
Especially Gaijin removing M829 and M829A1 from many Rank 6 Tanks that should have them and replace it with a weaker M77 Round that can barely do a thing to any Russian Rank 6 or any Rank 6 bth I'm tired of this Bias bs.
True
Gaijin nerfed US tanks to ground
I am not surprised that gaijin would do such a thing since they are Russian bias after all.
ags getting m833 =11.0
this thing 2s25m gets 3bm60 = same br no change ...
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I was trying so hard to not laugh in video when I saw that... Zero regrets
hi justin love you videos pls make a video on the merkava i love this tank
can't wait for the 50mm Bradley they are testing irl to be added that thing is going to be an absolute menace
8:27 resumes the majority of my matches
Therefore the CV90105 and 90120 deserve all of the compatible subsequent NATO rounds for each gun.
Because they ARE compatible with them.
Great video. I would imagine this is going to get constant uptier games though. Like I do at 10.0 for sweden.
congrats to the 75K
Not enough that they are getting a 3BM60 at 10.0 they also get a 695mm pen round with event vehicle. Russia does bad = lets buff them to oblivion
Imagine Striker - faster, more survivability, armor against 12.7, with almost same penetration on 10.0...
Can you revisit the merkava mk3s now with the better reload. the matchmaker is also very nice for them you often get downtiered to the premium brs
man thank god for the plane uptiers, no more clickbaits at top tier means higher wr for america, finally.
I don't follow, what did they change?
I love justin
does the decal/sale stuff even work on console?
3BM60 Amazing at 10.0 That round just shreads!
Crazy how the leclerc still have a 6.0 reload
Can you do the type 81c since it changed brs i keep arguing with people about how it didn't deserve the nerf as its unusable against helis and drones and any jet thats 11.0+ since they can climb off the get go and beat you i understand if not or if youre busy but if you find time could you please do a video on it
The regular 2S25 at 9.3 reverse speed is the same 73kmph as the forward speed, i wish this model retained that reverse speed, 20kmph aint bad but that 73kmph reverse speed was amazing
YEEEES the merkavas get the desired 6 sec. And now they are playing
People barely played this vehicle to begin with which is odd to why they even gave it 3BM60. Having played it extensively - 3BM46 is all it needed at 10.0. 3BM60 changes nothing except when you fight 11.0 or bring it to 11.7. It was an overall unnecessary change and would rather them buff the vertical traverse of it (was bug reported).
So basically, it isn't unnecessary, and there's now a reason to keep it in your lineup as you progress.
please do a comparison between the 2s25m and the cv90-120 since they are both light tanks with bug guns. One sits at 10.0 and one sits at 11.3
Why a comparison video? Seems kind of a weird request
Imaging they using the spurt as a test for the obj 292
i played the new merkava. Pre nerf at top tier i hardly did more than 3 kills, now 5 games each 7kills. The new merkava is insane. Speed, mobility, gunhandling, optics, round, normal reload, insane smoke screen. Lack of armour, but sometimes no armour= best armour
I just seen this lastnight and was like wtf mangoes at 10.0
Hi Justin,how do u think about the large of number players has left the game??
Nope, because the 223k players on this morning tells me that the statement is simply untrue.
I bring it in my 11.7 lineup as my main scout vehicle. The firepower buff is noticable for top tier. Its is much stronger now.
But LT are still lacking spall liners. IDK wtf they did woth just adding them to MBTs when spall liners were mostly common on light vehicles like this and IFVs
Let’s fucking go!
Did they nerf the 120mm AP shell on the AMX-50? I was using it last night and found my shell couldnt PEN the side armour of tanks, also it would just shatter sometimes.
DM13 acting weird too, I couldn’t pen side armor so many times, it didn’t go through with no damage or ricochet, it said NO PENETRATION for some damn reason
Played us yesterday it was weird actually winning at top teir.
Does it make any practical difference though? Didn’t 3BM46 already go through everything at that battle rating?
You just cut thru everything better at angles and u pen thru turret armor better now with 60 u can’t pen any turret cheek 😂
I like to take out the cv90105 or w.e its with the just missles its hilarious and fun as hell blasting missles on the move
I put this in my 11.7 line up as my light tank. Great for capping and spawning in cas
And yet the Auf1 can only shoot retrofitted ammo to this day
Am i tripping or didn’t this have 3BM60 for a while then they changed it to 3BM46 and now after a while they buffed it again by giving it 3BM60??
ah yes, the 11.7 round at 10.0 im sure this will be super healthy for the 10.0 bracket. mhm
4:35 wasn’t the smartest move on my part, I thought you were further around the corner and I tried to go help my teammate. Also, 3BM60 seems quite strong at 10.0, but I do believe that glass cannon tanks should get stronger rounds to compensate for the lack of armor.
Are you Russian main
@@thybonheng1485 I am a Sweden main
@@FreddyKruger112 sorry bro this last few day there a lot of Russian main try to defend gaijin
Is this vehicle good?
By the way why don't you play Tarkov on YT/Twitch once in a while ? You're taking abt it sometimes and I would love to see you play, I'm guessing its same problem as with Ready or Not ye ?
I love the game, but can't stand the constant ratting and cheaters. Drive sme nuts!
Plus the wipes.. not a fan of them
I got in the same team with you yesterday,i was expecting that i will be in a video but im not unlucky
Soooo...This is just a better CV90120 at 1.3 br lower?
It's Russian, of course it would be..... (also lmao at it "under-performing" at 10.0 so it gets an end-game shell at 10.0... meanwhile HSTVL did okay as a light tank and is now raised to 11.3 for that against tanks that it has not a chance in hell at killing 9/10 times......... or it if CAN kill them, but it takes 5-10 shots as spall liners/spalling nerf for its darts mean it is literally just poking for vitals with an underpowered needle (seriously, I've had shots evaporate against ammo on a side penetration... watching the shell absorb into ammo and it just turn yellow is the absolute worst))
Tbf i rlly would like to see all the leos using DM53 then...i mean if the RU can everyone can
The new event tank will be an interesting one to see balance.
With so much pen it could nuke anything at any BR. But with terrible reload, turret traverse and lack of thermals....place it to high and it will be shit...place it too low and it's busted.
Imagine 2S25M wih 2S38 armor on the sides.
Tiger!
It deserved this buff
No it didn't and I played this vehicle quite a lot. 3BM46 was more than enough to lol pen anything at 10.0.
The 105 abrams laughing with it 774 at 10.3
BRO ITS REALLY SURVIVABLE THO! *the usual excuse*
I believe that Gaijin will add new top-tier light tanks for all nations (ztq15, m10, ajax, and jaguar). No other reason to give this thing a new round.
i feel like you should do a t-80 bvm in 2024 vid just sayin
why is this at 10.0 while something like the cv90120 is 11.3...
Yes.
Meanwhile the AGS can’t get M900 at 11.0. It’s so much fun fighting the Strv 122 and 2a7 with 395mm of pen.
Bro. How is my freaking abrams 10.3 with m774 being the best it gets
I guess you forgot that the Sprut's have Hydropneumatic suspension
That was covered in my previous video for it. This was mostly a demonstration of its new firepower.
@@JustinPlaysTV I meant the moment in the video where you complained about the lack of gundepression :D
@@evo3s75it can only change the clearence and not the inclination
@@evo3s75 it cant tilt it only adjusts the clearance
Meanwhile the AGS needs to go up to 11.0 just to get M833.
Sadly, while this thing does have an active suspension, its limited to up and down....but it does goes down pretty far, almost into a low rider lol.
15:03 Its quite the opposite for me. It would be awsome to see high-level, coordinated teams fighting as opposed to the normal games we all have, where half the team are just potatoes :') War Thunder has such a high skill cealing and as we don't have a "ranked" mode like in csgo or lol, we just never see multiple very skilled players playing against other very skilled players.
I think it's a good buff, you have no light tanks on top tier for russia so bringing the sprud with top ammo is very nice
Bmp2m can be used at top tier aswell
@@zenitu6914 yeah but I feel it more inconfortable to play it than 2S25
@@zenitu69142S38 too
I think the fact that the click bait is 11.3 and most 11.7 lineups have a 12.7 jet for CAS, is going to separate the tiers, which is great, so 11.3 is its own tier with 10.3 and then 12.7 Is top top tier where the best of the best fight
TCM AGS get a .7 Br increase for 20mm extra pen, and the Sprut gets no br increase for a top tier shell. And Gaijin tries to say there is no Russian Bias.
I was the strela on Iberian castle so I take full credit for you not getting bombed once. You're welcome lol
I got that Bradley at 10:46
I can't believe how bad the vertical aiming on this thing is. It's still a great tank, though.
You thought that armor on the leo2a7v will not bring something bad into the game ? Yeah, this is, 700mm of pen at 10.0
man china needs those types of vehicles badly
Wasnt the 2S25M always equipped with the 3BM60?
No, only 46
@@jujubfh27 well atleast its realistic now.
@@STRYKER1467realistic where? Cos Ukraine war shows all Russia uses is mango raund on all their tanks bm60 is so scarse
@marwojnicz88 after the delivery of NATO tanks to Ukraine, Russian tanks were received Svinets 2. That is, a long time ago. And the 3BM46 is not a massive projectile at all
@@marwojnicz88 It's a video game, who the fuck cares about the war having anything to do with balance changes ?
There was already one vehicle at 10.7 with 3BM60. Why not just add 3BM60 another vehicle but at lower BR surely it won’t hurt anything
9:36 HOW !? !? !? !? !? !?
this thing gets to stay at 10.0 with 3bm60 while the AGS gets banished to 11.0 for what is a worse dm33, just remember Russian bias doesn't exist
I got the vilkas and the first match I did I got killed before I could do anything but I spawned a man's and killed a t80b, ztz96p, and bully a lvkv9040. UT failed to kill it before I died. And I have killed a t72av from the front with pzgr 12.8/8.8 round lol
Why did they even give it this round? Not performing well enough??
so they will do this but not give my m60a3 m833 or m900 😭
10.0 USSR is going to be wild with this and the event tank....
Yeah, more spam alongside the 2s38 so the winrates can go even lower lol
@@advan0s they chose to do this because russian winrates are in the bottom currently.
@@STRYKER1467 no they aren’t, they’re drastically better than US win rates
@@Optimusprime56241 yes they are and US win rates are very high thanks to the new gimick tank.
@@STRYKER1467 What new gimmick tank?
But it had 3bm60 for like year +
3BM46 wasn't bias enough, 3BM60 is better Comrade (14 more Bias Points!)
I hate that i csnt get creator decals on console.. xbox and ps mean nothing to the snail
MBT-70, 9.3, only fights 10.0-10.3 games.
So at (basically) 10.0+ this tank has 285mm APFSDS penetration at 10 meters
A mediocre 7.5 second reload, reasonable for the caliber, horrible for the pen and damage.
Weak non-composite armor to the point that the only apfsds that might not pen it is it's own (the spacing of the armor is practically not modelled and has near to no effect)
A internal layout that'll more often than not result in a crew kill or ammo detonation when hit
Now, this would be a good tank, if it didn't have to fight Leopard 2s, T-72s, Challengers, M1 Abrams, ZTZ96, Ariete, Strv121s and Merkavas among other things.
I just really want to see tanks like this not have to fight tanks like the one in this video, they do not deserve this.
"Combat drones are annoying but this one is okay(Scout drone)"
Me: Man- I wish those who use light tanks/vehicle use that drone properly instead.. put a research on it and not equip it-
AGS gets ~30mm of extra pen and goes up to 11.0, and this doesn't move??
AND THEN MY F5EAT 11.0, Gaijin wtf
The USSR at 10.0 is lovely its just a shame there quite a few cheaters now days at that br