Sacrilege? Porsche 718 Boxster S - Everyday Driver Europe Review
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- čas přidán 2. 11. 2016
- While we've driven many Porsches sports cars over the years, our European Correspondent Tom gets his first opportunity in the all new Porsche 718 Boxster S. He shows just how fast it is and explores its cornering capability, all while debating if the engine note really matters.
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This host keeps getting better and better. He's very charismatic and fun to listen to. The best thing is that he sounds like he has a boston accent when he gets excited.
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charismatic..... LOL
Yeah, I have no idea how German + English as second language = Boston accent.
@@Lieutenant_Dude it is very odd but Germans came to the US way back when and probably shaped the accent. I'll look into it and come back here lol
He is far better than Todd and Rod or whatever.
Love how this review is done in an unbiased manner, because he's never driven a flat 6
At first, I was like "who is this", but then I agreed with your point of view.
Salomondrin over heere
So you love that he cant tell you if the car is better :S
Nobody need drive a Cayman for know this is good, and the sound he only need look a video of the old cayman.
why is he an idiot ? you need to get out more
@Porsche Man what Engine did Porsche originally use?
Really like Tom's reviews, great addition to the show. Keep it up!
I bought a Cayman GTS 2016 with that flat 6 instead of 718 Cayman S. I honestly liked everything about the 718, the noise isn't as good, but its not bad. The cornering capability definitely is stronger than the 981 by a marginal amount. In the end i got the GTS because i cant wait for the 718 (would ship in a few month) plus the flat 6 does sound glorious, and it just invites you to rev out the car hard. That's the one thing I did not find in the 718 and didn't even know I needed until I really started driving both. But boy, does it make you smile. The sound is easily audible and very in your face and mechanical. You hear EVERYTHING, intake, belt, throttle clicks, clutch. its not quiet on low revs, yet unlike the 718. It progresses in pitch higher revs where the 718 falls flat and simply grows louder with same pitch. As for the performance, It's by little difference and I dont do heavy tracking on cayman friendly tracks regardless. The GTS just has more emotion. And every time taking it to the redline. You feel like a beast and laugh every time.
Bill Burr reviews cars!!
Beautiful shots, great car, and an awesome video. Nicely done Thomas and team.
Great review Thomas Hellmanzik! I always look forward to your reviews. Keep up the great work. I love that you haven't driven previous versions of the car, and how it gives you a unique perspective. The part where you show distance from wheel to shifter, awesome. Keep it up.
WOW, I was so excited to see a EVERYDAY DRIVER video! You guys Keep them coming and we'll keep watching Superior Work. You always get us involved with your level of excitement.
Great review. Excellent to see you guys are getting other people outside of Utah to help expand the channel. Fantastic!!!
This is Tom's best review yet, and and instant classic in the entire EverydayDriver library. Keep it up!
The sound you are excited about is the crackle at lift, but the flat 6 sings upon acceleration instead. The crackle gets annoying after a while but the other doesn't.
Wunderboy yup, excessive crackles actually is childish and gets old quickly.
Your all's show is fast becoming one of my favorite TV/CZcams shows, period. Awesome job!
This exhaust sounds amazing to me
porsche hit a home run with this
Awesome comments on the manual box, first review of the manual that I've seen!
love this review, your videos are very entertaining. thanks
Great video and Tom did a fine job. I look forward to more stuff in Europe with Tom as driver and host. Good job, team!
Matthew Gaither love his accent with a hint of Goodfellas
Great job guys! Like always
Great review- his enthusiasm is truly infectious. Also cool to see someone’s opinion who hasn’t driven the flat 6.
This being my first Porsche, my 718BS sounds great (without sport exhaust). I drove a 981BS on a test drive and yes, it sounded better and drove worse. Again as a novice in a Porsche, I could tell the difference. I can understand how a owner of a 981 or earlier may not like the sound, I get it. If I want more sound, I can get an aftermarket exhaust but overall the host comments are pretty spot on (minus the actual need for sport exhaust). If you enjoy driving, this car is pretty special.
the Lava Orange is incredible
Awesome & love the 718, bought the BS, tuned and piped it to a 3.5sec 450hp beast. With the aftermarket exhaust it’s simply incredible!!
Porsche Man At stock its been recorded at 3.6sec so hope the tune wasn’t too much
Tuning gets a bit more out of these, noticeably much more torque which is excellent for the track and general driving. Additionally that extra power really starts having an influence the faster you go, worth every cent of a 1k upgrade. The fastest version of these is the gts @3.7sec, thats a real impressive figure for a 4banger straight out of the box. As lm also running a heavier wider set of 996 gt3 wheels and tyres means l don’t lose too much grunt on rotational mass whilst still getting the extra grip. Unlike the 987 & 981, the 718 is a real performer.
as a former boxster/911/944t owner, it's not the amount of pistons it's the pressure the counts!!!, nice job--thanks guys
Great audio of the crackles!!!!
Great video! I loved every part of it.
amazing review!
Awesome review guys. What a car too!
0:34 thought you were tapping the throttle, but it was the music starting LOL
That colour just looks great. These things will be great for tuning also, Cobb already is working on them. Looking at gaining ~100 BHP on the S model with a full exhaust (headers, cats, etc), intake and tune.
And the nice part is the short pipe lengths given the mid engine configuration. Coming from Subaru boxer tuning world, this is the perfect progression.
Had mine for 5 months now , love it !
Very good vids are you making guys. Keep it up!
Great video. Best 718 one I have seen. My Cayman S arrives in two weeks. Can't wait! I went nuts on options.
Definitely enjoyed Tom's review. Very interesting to hear an opinion on the new 718 from some one who hasn't touched the much revered flat 6. Would love to see more from him!
Awesome review!
Stunning aerial photography!!! Is the road next to the Ring?
I like your review and drone shots. 😉
It says Europe. But this guy's accent is straight outta New England. Just had a chaudah before he filmed this.
With a mix of Australian and English slang thrown in.. I enjoyed it btw.
Guys, Take the manual tranny out of the picture and add the PDK with the lowered 718 S chassis, and you now have a 350 hp super car accelerating at 3.6 seconds from 0-60 mph. It's a German Jet on the roads, and it will pass most of what is encounters with minimal effort. By comparison, the 2016 Cayman GT4 ran the 0-60 in 4.1 seconds with 385 hp derived from the exiting flat six. I am loving this new 718 Cayman S PDK.
I recently purchased a 718 Boxster S and did due diligence in researching the different models before I made the purchase. I was initially turned off by the fact that the 718 was a 4 cylinder but considering this was my first Porsche purchase the sound of the engine vs. better efficiency and more power seemed like an easy decision. I do agree that the sound of the naturally aspirated flat 6 is amazing however the sound of the 718 matched with the sport exhaust is equally amazing, just different. I actually found a base model 911 that was in my price range. I will admit that my ego wanted the 911; but the Boxster S with the Sport Chrono Package had a faster 0-60 time than the 911.
I came to this conclusion. The 718 Boxster S is an great introduction into the world of Porsche and the sound difference between the flat 4 and flat 6 makes the eventual upgrade to. a 911 S just that much more memorable, however, I am now looking at the Cayman 718 GTS 4.0 as my next upgrade. Which leaves me with the question, putting the historical significance of the 911 aside, will the 911 ever be a real option for us next generation Porsche owners?
Here's a clip of my Boxster:
czcams.com/video/Sp-EiNfXUuY/video.html
Great video guys 👍🏻 When are you going to test the renault Clio RS as you said you would after the 208 GTI ?? I've been waiting for ages to see that
Great review Tom!
Man I love this guy. He's awesome! Cheers.
I love this guys reviews
These cars are great! Excellent handling, great sound & a lot faster than older boxsters.
Great acent..great review
Great review... Love his style... Actually think the 4cyl is pretty cool now.
How can it be sacrilege when the ICONIC models (primarily the 550 Spyder) that the Boxster was inspired by were ALL 4 CYLINDER CARS??? Are there that many Porsche enthusiasts now that are unfamiliar with the marque's history and some of the models which helped establish their reputation and status within the automotive world during their formative years?
Very well put...most internet fanboys know nothing beyond the 911 unfortunately and a large majority of people purchasing porsches today are looking for the name plate more than anything else. Just look at how many consider the 911 the only real porsche when the 356 and various racers pioneered the way years before with smaller engines.
papasmurf986. thanks, much appreciated!
It doesn't matter what they were inspired by all that really matter is as a direct generational 'upgrade' the car lost two cylinders and a whole hell of a lot of soul because of it. For some that's sacrilege.
What? Less cylinders doesn't mean less power. The new Boxster is faster than the older one. The reason beyond the extraction of two cylinders is fuel economy restrictions for a car like the Boxster, due its size.
Jesus Christ. It is not a sacrilege. It is a drama. Because things can improve over the decades, you know. The flat 6 is awesome and people who have driven one recognise this. Don't pretend that 4 is somehow good, or better, because of what Porsche did a hundred years ago, out of the technological and financial constrains during the post-war years! If you had a point, then the obvious question to ask would be why did Porsche EVER bother to build a flat 6 in the first place?! With that awesome flat 4 heritage?! And we know that nobody - including Porsche liked the idea too much after all - which explains the life and fate of the 912... they just talk up their BS as they need it... it's OK, they are a business and need to sell shit.
Also, it really pains me to see how people suck up and regurgitate all this marketing nonsense... The Boxster wasn't inspired by the 550, or anything. It is the historic love-hate relationship of Porsche with the rear engine, which never made much sense for the commonly known reasons, and OF COURSE Porsche has been looking left and right ever since what to do about that, mid-engine being an obvious candidate for a sports car. In the 70s, they thought the front V8 would replace the rear flat 6, duh. If that had caught on (in the shape of the 928 of course), the marketing BS would read very differently today. But with the benefit of hindsight, they talk it up as that precious 911 heritage they have been hedging... if you want to indulge in that and it makes you feel better, go crazy dude :) They had hedged plans to kill the rear engine and the flat 6 concept, that is the 911 all together, more than once... what more needs to be said? Porsche also had mid-engine 911's running (which you can learn about at the Porsche CZcams channel in their "Secrets"-series of videos) and THAT resulted in the Boxster, not what some old ass 550 or 718 did a hundred years ago. - Which is why the original Boxster was literally 1 :1 a 911 from the front up to the wind screen; plus the 911 doors, of course.
And then the 981 again wasn't inspired by the 718 or any of that, it took license from the 918 with the head lights design-wise (while of course being the update to the previous two models), and the 982 is just a refined 981 design. Such a poor choice to call it 718, as if it were something novel in the shape of a 982 now, or something actually retro, while it is just the same thing in its fourth incarnation... Porsche enthusiasts call it 982 (just like Porsche ;) ). Also, since the now turboed Carrera is a 991.2, it would not have been a terrible thing to call the Boxster 981.2... how about it? The 982 looks nothing like a 718, and everything like a 981, of which it is a refined design. It only makes sense that that dumb 718 badge needs to be optioned, which Porsche has kindly done for all the press cars of course, so that they can literally all start out their reviews with the same naff heritage talk (you got no idea how much work it is to even make a 5 minute CZcams video... so they pick that shit up gladly). How come nobody noticed for the past 20 years that the 986, 987, 981 all have those ancient genes in them? Because the engine had 2 cylinders too many so far and that tricked everybody? If you believe it... :) Well, I guess first you have to rationalise that spending 100.000 bucks on something as unsustainable as a sports car is a good idea, so OF COURSE 4 cylinders must be marketed, and therefore must be good... I mean, Porsche put it in there, how could it possibly be a bad idea?!
They did the same thing when they introduced the latest 991 and 981 GTS models... really painful having to hear every dumbass car reviewer recycle the exact five factoids from the press package, and possible throwing in a 10 second clip of some historic racing GTS - wow, so that's where my GTS is coming from, who knew! But of course it is also bullshit; Porsche made GTS models "forever", I don't see why it was suddenly such a thing with the introduction of the most recent models (except marketing). How about a 928 GTS? I was still shitting diapers when that came out...
Until just now, every Porsche owner already knew the flat 6 - unlike the reviewer here; so they are speaking from experience, not ignorance of heritage. None of this is to say the 982 is a bad car; every new Porsche is always better than the previous one... but it is just a fact that this car can never quite be again what it used to be. But hey, people accepted the water cooled engine, the turboed flat 6, and now the 4 cylinder; and they will buy the hybrid and the electric-only, too, one day... and of course it will drive a lot better again, which will make up for the loss in other departments, just like the first water cooled 911 did...
Great review and amazingly picturesque comments done perfectly by this funny old mobster dialect and by a non native old new-yorker! Keep up the good work!!!
Good review, fun, informative, without getting bogged down on either side. The flat six just sounds better, there's no way around it. But I suppose if I had the 718, the exhaust crackles are a nice consolation :P
I spent some time at my dealer the other day while my S4 was being serviced, they have a new Cayman S with the flat six still, alongside a 718. Tough choice, but debating going back and seeing what kind of deal they'll make on the "older" one, since they have 718's to clear now.
I don't the crackles, makes it sound broken. Like a clapped out old Beetle.
Dang. I really hope you bought the 718. 981 is sad sauce
Anxious for the RS6 Performance. One of my dream cars.
I'm glad people dont understand new 718. Super fun car. I own this and a 2015 911 s. I enjoy them both equally
Accent took me by surprise at first but the review was basically perfect. Loved it.
it's not sacrilege. the first Porsche's had flat four engines and the engine sounds good in my opinion. four cylinder have a sort of harder sound while six cylinder have a more musical sound. I think they can both sound good.
I drove the base 718 Boxster and the S and if you get one of these things you have to get the S. The variable geometry Turbo totally transforms the car.
DUDE! I love this guy! I love the accent on top of the quality of the review and the knowledge. It makes it fresh!
Truly, very good film, well-executed.
Like the guy doing the driving. The drone shot of the round-a-bout was stellar. The 2 guys talking to him via Skype....ahhhh...
Interesting review if the new 4 cal. It will only get better with time. It's a car for the next generation of Porsche owners.
Those Aerial shots were amazing. Germany looks like such a pretty country I must visit it someday.
Enjoyed the review and the drive and camera-work looked great too.
Great reviewer
Such superb production value.
I recently review a 981 Boxster S on my channel, I'm sure the new one is great but that flat 6 sounds amazing
Two minutes in and I can tell Tom has gotten much more comfortable with both his command of English while presenting, and just presenting overall. He's both more relaxed and confident. Kudos!
Best review of the 4 cylinder 718 I have seen.
great piece... imo its good he doesn't have experience with the 6. cos all you would hear in the vid is lament about the new soulless turbo 4 blah blah with countless comparisons to the 6.
I liked this vid a lot. great over head footage. Cheers.
Currently, I own a concours quality 1987 951 (modded with 911 brakes) and a 1987 911 Outlaw (highly modded). Over the years, I've driven all Porsche models from 914 to the 991.2 - - Porsche has proven they can design, build, race and sell world class 4-cylinder sports cars, but I haven't drank the 2017 718 cool-aid yet ... I'm still on the hunt for a 2016 Cayman GTS.
Love Porsches. Such great engineering.
"Ayyyy, I'm not biased ova hea" 😂😂😂
well done!
Nice review.This guy's English is awesome. Completely normal to have an accent when you're not speaking your native language. Great job Tom!
Bring the original two back!
The cup holders are adjustable and work perfect
I absolutely love the orange one
nice review by skinny chris harris
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I do agree thought that the 718 Cayman and Boxster (Base, T, and S types) are more of the "my first Porsche" line-up of cars. In other words, they are meant for people like me! 😁
Beautiful Car “
This guy is great!
FINALLY someone in the same boat as me, never had a 981,just trying to see if the 718 is a good car. Please try to understand not everyone in the world are able to run 6 or 8 cylinder cars. As a matter of fact I have ever only owned 4 cylinder cars because of the taxes on the larger engines and the crazy price of fuel where I live.
One reason to buy this machine @ 8:01. He could have explained his driving style just to clarify to the rest of us.
0:41. that is a proper looking convertible. right color and gearbox.
Love you're accent..
Lets be honest here. The pops and other noises were added to make the 4 cylinder sound less weak and more dynamic. It helps, but we all know it's not the same musical symphony as before. The car itself is a step on, of course. Just comes down to what interests you more, the visceral feel or the objective drive - they are equally valid opinions. Time (and Porsche) moves on inexorably.
Car wow got 0-60 of 3.4 secs with a 718GTS, so you can’t argue with the superiority of the little four cylinder.
We do thing properly ovah heeyah. I'M WALKIN HEEEYAH!!!!
I don't understand why steering feel is declining from electric steering even in premium sports cars? Can they not keep using hydraulic systems in dedicated sports cars?
This car + road with tight corners up/down hill... ahhh
Yeah what a great point 90k for a 4 cylinder car? Tough pill to swallow. I love the Cayman in Miami blue that with the gray 5 spoke 20"rims.
Tim S Or 100k for a slower F6 GTS
i was lucky enugh to hear a prev-gen Cayman S accelerate on a motorway a few weeks back. Yesterday, i heard a new 718 boxster, and really its no match for the prev-gen, the old car just sounds so much better...
I think I am gonna buy it
Yeah, it's not a flat-six, but the 944, 968, 356, 914, and 928 all head non-flat-six configurations (914 had a flat-six version later) and no one discredits those cars today. I find the idea of people saying that it's not a Porsche without a flat-six to be totally myopic. It's a Porsche if it's designed by them, built by them, and sold by them. Besides, you can't deny that the 982 (718) platform is a major improvement over the 981s; it looks better, it handles as well if not better, and it's much faster. They've made it look more sleek and compact, like the 987s, while the 981s seemed a little too big, like the 991 911s. The noise isn't terrible, it just sounds more generic. I'm hoping these new caymans will end up like the 987, selling for half their original price in 6 years so that I can buy one.
Really looking forward to the 308 GTi
Why is he moving that lever in the middle of the car?
Paul, I am thinking I am gonna switch from my M3 to a Boxster or a Caymen... probably the former. :-)
The 718 is a good car, but... here are the official registration numbers of new sports cars in the first half of 2017 in Germany: Cayman 578, Boxster 1410, Mercedes SLK/SLC 2041, Ford Mustang 3322, Audi TT 3846. The Germans, who really love Porsche, prefer other sporty cars over the pricey 718 four cylinders. At least in terms of German sales the 718 underperforms considerably.
The base level 991 will soon have a slightly higher powered turbo, or twin turbo version of this flat four engine. It will be badged the 912 and 70% of 991's will be the new 912.
Ein Porsche-Review in Spa und nicht auf der Strecke selbst? DAS ist das wahre Sakrileg! ;)
Zustimmung! That would have been awesome, but Porsche said no. I'll try again next time.
This guy is straight up Budget Chris Harris. Even the background music is from a Chris Harris video.
I think they're right. At that price point, many cannot get beyond the fact that it is a four-banger. Include me in that group.
Love PDK
7:42? that is the same time as a GT4, not sure how that is correct, perhaps they were quoting the Cayman GT4 and not a boxster 718S? not sure how a GT4 at 385hp 3.8L w/ GT3 suspension parts, proper aero, PSC2 tires is still going to do same as time as a 2.5T with less power, same wt, boxster suspension, street tires and a cab.
I think I heard the Boxster S was just 4 seconds off the GT4 though. The turbo should have a lot more power at low RPM and yet it still pulls to 7500. Also it was the PDK which should help some. At any rate, damn fast.
No it’s 7.40 now for the boxster s