Lessons from history with Serhii Plokhy | Ukraine: The Latest | Podcast
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- Day 550. The history of Ukraine and Russia is a subject that has come up again and again on this podcast. Good history and ‘bad’ history underpin how all of us understand the origins, reasons and justifications for the ongoing full-scale invasion. One guiding light is Ukrainian historian Serhii Plokhy: professor of Ukrainian history and Director at the Ukrainian Research Institute at Harvard University.
His books, from ‘The Gates of Europe’ to the recently released 'Russo-Ukrainian War' are essential reading for anyone seeking a deeper understanding of Ukraine and its history.
David Knowles spoke to Professor Plokhy recently about Ukrainian and Russian history, parallels with the Second World War and revelations in his new book.
Contributors:
David Knowles (Host). @djknowles22 on Twitter.
Serhii Plokhy (Director, Ukrainian Research Institute at Harvard University).
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I am Ukrainian and we are grateful for British support from day one. Thanks a lot folks🤙🇺🇦
Not from this Brit ❤ to Russia from UK ✌
@@kingKong-fd7wm I've never heard such propaganda talk about erasing history and not mentioning important factors like the bombing of the Donbas regions, unreal and half of these fukwits listening just go ahead and believe it without questioning.
To drive the standard narrative, that Putin 'is all bad'' and Zelensky 'is all good' to create binary thinkers
@@kingKong-fd7wmwhich is exactly what a botnik would say 😂 - try harder komrade
@@artnull13 Looked into his account and yes, he's a Russian Troll pretending to be a Brit. One of these Troll accounts registered in 2013, just before the Crimean invasion by Russia. There are lots of them, unfortunately.
I really want to thank Russia, too. I want to thank them for so comprehensively neutering themselves militarily, socially, economically, industrially, technologically, etc, during one of the most monumental historical screw ups in history in their invasion of Ukraine. We couldn't have done it as consummately as Russia has, even if we'd *actually* gone to war with them, so many many thanks Russia for their self-inflicted nutpunch! ❤😂
This is os one of the best simple explanations of recent history and outlooks of Russia and Ukraine Ive heard come out in awhile. Love the historical aspect's to it and will share it with anyone who isnt clued into why Ukraine must win and whats going on. Its great for sending to friends to help frame whats going on 🇺🇦✊🏽🌻🔱 SLAVA UKRAINI 🇺🇦 HEROAM SLAVA 🔱🌻✊🏽🇺🇦❤️🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇲
Wonderful, poignant, insightful talk, and author. So lovely to hear reasoned opinions based on facts and research. How I wish the internet was clear of all the poisoning so everyone could see these gems.
Fantastic interview! I have to admit that I'm not generally a fan of the Telegraph, but I've become a dedicated follower of this particular podcast. Keep up the great work. All the best from Canada 🇨🇦 🇺🇦
Canadian English same thing,racial hatred towards RUSSIA
@@ricardojames2004 RuSSian isn't a race.
@@frankshailes3205 NO? Could've fooled me with that amount of hate.Anyway the U.K probably know why they destroyed Libya and now aiming for Russia.
I'm working my way through Gates of Europe. It's very dense and requires repeat reading to get your brain around all the rock and roll of Ukrainian history.
Great interview.
Listening in USA. . Philadelphia Pennsylvania area.
Also from Columbus, Ohio. ;-)
Great analysis. With Ukraine always! Slava Ukraiini!
Britain support to ukraina is ☆☆☆☆☆
Cutting RF suplies => WIN
Real brits support 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺
Sanctions on Russian commodities make goods more scarce which drive prices higher benefiting Russia Saudi Arabia etc.
The west (Europe) pays the black market price and subsidises Rishi Sunak and Boris Johnson’s pals and relatives in India Turkey and USA who supply the goods (oil, gas) at increased prices.
Think of alcohol prohibition in 1920s USA or the drugs industry.
Glory to Ukraine !
…Glory to All of the Heroes of Ukraine….💙💛💙
Glory to the heroes!
Excellent interview. I feel like I have learned a bit more about what has made modern Ukraine. SLAVA UKRAINI from the United States.
Great interview, thanks
Serhii Plokhy did a great job of making sense of a lot of things. I thought I understood most of this, but he filled in a lot of blanks and verified many of my conclusions. I'm just a bit older than him and generally a student of history, but Plokhy added a lot to my understanding of events and the history preceding them. I greatly enjoyed listening to him and I think it actually speaks a lot to what the eventual outcomes will be.
I wish more people would pay more attention to history. Often the past and its influence on the present, can be a pretty reliable predicter of the future.
Thanks again for the info
A Good Interview👌
I remember as a grade school student in America when Victor Yanucovich was poisoned, it was in the news and our chemistry teacher talked to us about how that poison functioned. I look forward to a future when Russia can never do that again
Yushchenko, not Yanukovich!!! Yushenko ran against Putin-supported Yanukovich and was poisoned during the campaign (sound familiar?). He won in a re-election after the orange revolution against Yanukovich after the Supreme court ordered a fresh election.
Yanukovich was elected in 2010 and was flown out by Putin in 2014 (Source: VV Putin, "Crimea-coming home") after he broke 2010 election promise and joined Russia instead of EU. He also stole billions and his private police killed protesters in the Maidan Revolution of Dignity 2013-2014. His police (Berkut) went to Crimea to help the annexation then went to Donbas.
So weird. I'd never heard of Plokhy until i saw Peter Hitchens mention him on a video i watched yesterday. Smart dude.
He's required reading in Timothy Snyder's online class from Yale which is why I've been fighting my way through The Gates of Europe.
A succinct presentation with a brief overview of Ukrainian history and what sets Ukrainians apart from Russians. Appreciate the assessment of what led to Europe's and the US's lackadaisical acceptance of totalitarian Russia; Western perception twisted and blinded by Russia's market/profit potential.
Fantastic interview and amazing get for the Telegraph. Kudos.
Great interview useful to big picture and future of break up of Russian Federation, key background.
The whole point of the US backed coup in 2014 was to create conditions for the break-up of Russia. It is why Russia invaded - to ensure Ukraine will never join NATO.
Good stuff I'm listening from Dryden,Ontario 🇨🇦
TLDR: The only thing Russia has to offer are gas stations and grievances.
Don’t forget about suffering, humiliation and misery. But also there is fear, threats and bad music
Slava Ukrainie, heroim slava!
Russia go home!
Kiev and Odessa are russian home and they are on the way
@@Realist369-i love Alaska (our 49th state), think of how backward and corrupt it would be if it was still part of backward russia
God Bless America!!! 😎🇺🇸
"To Russia With Love The Majority of Crimeans Are Still Glad for Their Annexation" in Foreign Affairs magazine written by John O'Loughlin, Gerard Toal, and Kristin M. Bakke.
@@danielseagate6340 -the majority of Crimean Tartars (whose land it is) I think would prefer to align Ukraine or possibly Turkey
-i also think much of Siberia will end up aligned with China (which it already is)
@@tvwatcher1883 "One Year After Russia Annexed Crimea, Locals Prefer Moscow To Kiev" in Forbes magazine written by Kenneth Rapoza.
Great analysis of both Russia and Ukraines historic relationships , making understanding of present day actions and the actions or inactions of surrounding countries..
What kind of relationship can there be - if it has always been one country? Ukraine never existed as a separate state until 1991.
Five Stars
RuZZia and Ukraine are two DIFFERENT peoples. To put it very simply Ukrainians were democratic and wanted freedom but were SUPPRESSED for centuries. "RuZZians" were NOT democratic and were imperialistic (RuZZia was the Muscovian Empire, now called the RuZZian Federation).
Ukrainians did not just SUDDENLY want to be free or democratic--they ALWAYS were that way and tried to gain their freedom at every opportunity (numerous statehoods) but were always SUPPRESSED by their neighbours!
I wished more ppl would learn more about the real history, especially in Europe. In Western Europe, the USSR has been a bit ignored in schools. Ppl shouldn't romanticize it.
yeah. i got the book too.
Unfortunately, the sound is too muffled or those of us over 70... :(
Type C and it will show subtitles.
1917-1921 première indépendance de Ukraine en 1900s et seconde était 1991
The world is tierd of this war, we need peace.
When russia leaves all of Ukraine we will have peace
Ask your corrupt POS ‘leader’ Putin. He can end the war tomorrow by leaving Ukraine completely.
People are sick and tierd of begging Zelenskyy always asking for more. @@claudemaggard7162
The world is tired of trolls. We need our internet disinfected.
Ukraine de Kyiv Rus 988 jusqu’à aujourd’hui 1035 ans Catherine la grande a amené serfdom à Ukraine 🇺🇦
He couldn't deal with everything here but in The Gates of Europe, he definitely spends time on how the peasants were enserfed and then reenserfed.
Rabotino holds!
No, it's been liberated. See the Institute for the Study of War, "Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, August 28, 2023."
@@guydreamrthis botnik has been spamming this same message for the past week.
@@artnull13 Ikr, Putlertrolls showing their desperation. 🤣🤣
@@guydreamr taken after 3 months? A settlement of 500 inhabitants! There are 5 more like this before they reach the first line of Russian entrenchments
@@tubthump They've still taken it, so OPs statement is false.
Curiously mostly skips over the whole Banderite problem. Also, historically speaking, the last time German tanks named after cats fought on the Ukrainian Steppe, the result was T-34s rolling into Berlin.
But this time, the ruZZians don't have Western Lend Lease.
What 😂
Doesn't skip over it at all, he discusses nationalist groups at length toward the end of the video.
@@guydreamrwell they are a botnik: intellectually wanting and factually incorrect.
@@artnull13 Source?
That was a lesson in rewriting history from Serhii Plokhy. USA has attempted around 60 regime change operations around the world since WWII. Most were successful including the coup they instigated in Ukraine in 2014 which led to the removal of Viktor Yanukovych - the democratically elected president whose policies ensured peaceful relations with Russia. Victoria Nuland was in Ukraine at the time - a recording of her conversation with another US official about which person to choose for president is still available. (The same Victoria Nuland later admitted in a US Foreign Relations Senate hearing in March 2022 to the presence of biolabs in Ukraine which she was concerned Russia would capture).
Tubthump. Absolutely. But remember, this does not even pretend to be disinterested journalism anymore.
@@philipmarwood9327 did it ever pretend to be disinterested journalism!? The stuff that author came out with though goes beyond the usual propaganda they spew out here.
How's the troll fest going?
STOP DAMN LIE.
To many references being made about China and Taiwan. Last time I checked there are no countries that border Taiwan with the same interests and willingness to support them. China is more likely leaning an easier way to retake Taiwan. China has already taken many actions to do so and with the war in Ukrainian China will use lessons learned to make some changes in their plans. What I see is a failure in Taiwan to do what they must do to survive an attempt from China to take them. I fear the west will began to fail in its support of Ukrainian in 2024 and the tide of war could flip in 2025 in Russia getting what it wants through Trumps election.
China looks at Ukraine and thanks Mao for taking Tibet. The current risk now really is to Russia's "far east".... whilst she is so weakened
Support for Ukraine is already falling away. Russia will complete its military objectives long before the next US election
@@tubthumpyeah,because Biden getting another 20 billion, Greece sending 100s of leopards and NATO sending F16s...all announced in the past few weeks. The only one not supporting Ukraine are a couple of us politicians who are going to lose.
Even if the USA reduces its aid to Ukraine (such as a Republican win in 2024) the rest of Europe will remain supportive, to the extent that Russia will never be able to claim a “win”.
This isn’t a political war, it’s a war of genocide - Putin can’t claim that Ukrainians are Russian (on one hand) and launch terrorist missile attacks on civilian targets (on the other) - he can’t have it both ways.
He says Ukraine doesn’t exist, and he’s doing his best to ensure that it and it’s people are destroyed.
All the more reason to get out the vote for Biden in 2024.
"To Russia With Love The Majority of Crimeans Are Still Glad for Their Annexation" in Foreign Affairs magazine written by John O'Loughlin, Gerard Toal, and Kristin M. Bakke.
Couldn't be further from the truth 🤡
@@ginniemess
"One Year After Russia Annexed Crimea, Locals Prefer Moscow To Kiev" in Forbes magazine written by Kenneth Rapoza.
Would that be those Russians who illegally moved to Crimea after the invasion in 2014?
@@danielseagate6340go troll somewhere else, your effort is pathetic 🤡
@@danielseagate6340come on 🤡 bring out the big guns and reference Patrick Lancaster 😂🤣😂
Oh, ok. Over throw the democraticly elected government and in the same breath tell us Ukraine is democratic ! What's the oppersition party, what's the name of the opposition leader ? Far to much talk about Russia but none about the real situation in Ukraine.
Navalny and the Other Russia coalition. duh!!!
The democratically elected president, leader of the opposition party, along with the ex president, along with 91% of Ukraine, are united to get the terrorists out of their homeland.
Joshua’s time would be better spent attending prigozhin’s funeral.
Ukraine is losing. Stop the war.
Poor trolls. So hard to live down Bakhmut.
RuSSians panicking.
HEADING "UKRAINE THE LATEST",AND ITS A BOOK REVIEW! WASTE OF MY TIME!
Such a bs history lol😂
Britain needs to ally with Russia, and follow the example of General James Wolfe, Admiral Lord Horatio Nelson, the Duke of Wellington, Lawrence of Arabia and General Montgomery and the heroes of El Alamein.
During The Austrian wars of succession in the 1740s, the Napoleonic Wars, The Greek Wars of Independence (Battle of Navarino 1827) , the First World War and then WW2 Britain was allied with Russia.
A Soviet ‘Russian’ linesman also helped England win the Soccer World Cup in 1966.
Russians still control part of this tiny hamlet Robotyne and it's driving Zelenskyy nuts. He can't take this tiny hamlet about 5 miles away from Ukrainian controlled Orekhov since June 4 and the first main line of Russain defense is still 9 miles away from Robotyne.🤣 Ukrainian army in its current dismal state proved to be completely impotent. In fact the situation is so catastrophic that Zelenskyy even banned highly pro-Ukrainian western media to come anywhere near the frontline . Some Ukrainian soldiers on condition of anonymity were too candid with western reporters in describing Zelenskyy's mass slaughter of hapless Ukrainian conscripts . For example, NYT is quoting wounded Ukrainian soldier as saying: “We were shot like on a shooting range.” According to his fellow soldier “his battalion had suffered so many dead and wounded that only 10 men remained at the front line”. WaPo is reporting that yet another Zelenskyy debacle caused bitter recriminations on Capitol Hill: "The bleak outlook, briefed to some Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill, has already prompted a blame game inside closed-door meetings". Obsessed with deadlines Zelenskyy firmly made up his mind to take Robotyne at all cost by August 24, but even here he failed miserably. According to NYT, it was too much even for outgoing general Milley and he ordered Zaluzhny to finally stop this obsessive Zelenskyy Bakhmut lunacy and concentrate all remaining forces on the South instead (Since May 20 when Russians took Bakhmut General Syrsky (Zelenskyy minion) launched wave after wave of suicidal counterattacks failing to retake a single village near Bakhmut while wasting thousands upon thousands of hapless Ukrainian conscripts).
How's the weather in Leningrad, tovarisch?
Don’t feed the trolls
go back under your bridge
Sources ? Patrick Lancaster and RT 😂
Lies all lies Josh propaganda!!!
Slava Ukraini!!!
❤