Mark Galeotti | Finland, Russian imperialism, NATO and the resilience of democracy
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
- In this English language episode we had the pleasure of interviewing historian, writer and honorary professor of the UCL School of Slavonic and East European Studies, Mark Galeotti. In this episode, we discuss Russia’s imperialist ambitions, Finland’s relations and history with Russia, the resilience of liberal democracies, the Western discourse about Russia, and much more.
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Hello Finland! Wishing for you prosperity from Canada.
What an excellent interview- and interviewer. So 'Finnish'= professional, quietly spoken, competent, well informed....not bombastic, self effacing: all about the topic and Galeotti and not the interviewer! Well done, really really excellent. Kiitos!
Puhuminen hopeaa
Vaikeneminen kultaa
Talk is silver
Keeping silence is gold
Hello Finland. Greetings from Downunder🇦🇺🌏🇦🇺
Interesting for us English speakers to hear the Finnish perspective as it is for Finnish to hear an English perspective.
Europe could buy the 60billion of weapons from the US.
Thank you Futucast, more of these, i would like to hear more Finnish opinions on European events.
Very good. Questions were concise and to the point. The only point of frustration is that your English is better than that of most English native speakers. 😅
Sadly yes 😢
Lol -native English speaker
Thank you ever so much. From Idaho, USA.
@Futucast,
I would suggest that you make a playlist of your English language videos.
This would make it easier for all those who don't understand Finnish.
Good interview.
Kind regards from Flanders.
Agreed, given that less than 1/1000 people speak Finnish, there's obviously a huge market to tap in non-Finnish speakers
And they did it. Hopefully the link will come through.... i post it separately, so that this message won't be deleted, if the link will
Here: English episodes
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@@sateentuoksu Thank you for playing safe by using two posts.
And it worked: the link isn't censored by the algorithm, which isn't always the case.
Lp
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Mark is one of the very best people to hear from. He doesn't talk nonsense for an audience of like minds, he just shares fact and reality. And real world experiences. And he respects us enough to give us credit that we'll understand what he's saying. Without worrying about us potentially having a meltdown because we might not like what we heard in some parts.
You obviously don’t know the difference between speculation and facts
@@johnm7267 you obviously don't know how to read properly. My comment was clearly about his whole life and how he operates when talking about things on any given subject
He does talk nonsense for an audience of like minds. That´s why he uses the term "Revolution of Dignity" to refer to the Maidan coup, which BTW was supported by the USA (something he fails to mention), and he paints it as an "democratic" exercise (perpetraed by Nazis?)
And if you follow his podcast, In Moscow's Shadows, he is comfortable admitting what he doesn't know. Which makes a change from all those who claim to be totally prescient.
@christinelapping7903 yeah exactly 💯. He's not claiming to be anything he's not. He just shares what he does know, gives his views, and shares his opinions. And, as new information is learnt he adapts what he say to incorporate the new data. That's why I respect him.
Mark is such an intelligent communicator.
Greetings from Estonia.
Intelligent? Really? I prefer smart in a certain way.
Intelligent indeed 👍
Putin has seen an opportunity to take over Europe and has taken it. Making it sound like he just has a chip on his shoulder is misleading and dangerous.
The spirit of Simo Hayha watches over Finland today.😉
Very informative interview ❤ greetings from Lithuania 🇱🇹 regarding the refugees: we just pushed them back and the flow reduced to barelly few people a month trying to cross the boarder. Just stand your ground 🇫🇮
I love bringing this up to Trump supporters who assume that putin opposes illegal immigration. If those guys only knew...but they are adverse to foreign politics unfortunately and think everything is caused by American politics. But yeah Finland shut down a large border in three days I think.
I really appreciate the English episodes, which I can listen to while at work.
I First found the channel via your Dylan Burns interview.
Very sharp questions and good dialogue, I think it's especially promising that you found a prior statement of your guest and asked him to clarify or iterate on it.
I'll have to sit down and catch up on the subbed episodes at some point.
Keep up the fantastic work!
kiev is start of russia ? really. and rom is start of romania. it is not russia but medieval rus. start of russia is moscow marshes and serving horde to repress other rus principalities on the horde behalf
i am sur stalin genocided a lot of finns before ww2 given his policy of sending to gulag any diaspora nationalitis being it korean geek or finn. no woneder finn might pay back to those people especially serving in nkvd .also there are a lot of finnish speaking minorities in northern russia who ar culturaly gnocided probably. no schools no books etc. i heard there is no single belorus language shool in belorus whta is it if not cultural genocide.
putin is doing that his grinding war with hundred thousands dead men as result , often most patriotic and ukrainian speaking is not genocidal?
he says nobody cared about donbass. i am not sure what ukaine could do different. they evacuated population near front lines unlike russians. did not bomb larg cities unlike russian with mariupol and payed pensions to populations under russian control which is bordering with treason to pay for russian occupation with ukrainian money
Lol is Dylan famous? I met him in Kharkov last May at a restaurant 😂
I’m an Aussie but still have Polish citizenship so proudly a NATO citizen. Welcome Finland. I’m glad you joined.
And that’s the whole point, we all joined. NATO didn’t go East. We ran West. I remember in 1989 when the first partially free elections took place in Poland. We were safe in Australia by then for a long time but the first thing I asked my father: “when are we joining NATO, when are we joining the EC?” It was pre Maastricht after all. And these were common conversations amongst the 100 million people in Eastern Europe. It’s not an accident all the former eastern bloc countries joined.
Pride is not a good quality.
Pride comes before the fall polyak
"Finally" was the word in my mind when Finland joined Nato. We could have joined already in the 1990s, but it took Russia's full-scale invasion on Ukraine to turn the popular opinion of Finns to (overwhelmingly) support joining Nato.
@@kyyyni Maybe Finland and Sweden made a miscalculation to join NATO. Sweden in particular, because of its neutrality during 200 years. Why should it change a winning game? Being member of NATO is o.k. as long as it doesn't mean a threat for a country, among others Russia. It's terrifying that American military bases are now being built in those countries. That is a threat for Russia and in consequence for peace in the world.
Just to clarify, proud in this context is not meant as bluster. It simply reflects that the countries that joined NATO, did so willingly and for good historical reasons. And also that I reject the pejorative narrative some have of NATO. 😊
Collective security does not pose an objective threat to any country with thousands of nuclear weapons. It does limit that nuclear armed country’s ability to coerce the smaller countries.
All the best to you all.
Thank you for an outstanding interview of Mark Galeotti. The rational views and suggestions are exactly what all Europeans need to hear AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT !!!!
Dear Futucastcrew, could you please make a playlist of all the English spoken episodes on your channel? It would make the reach of your channel a lot bigger. Thank you for this fine episode and kind regards from the Netherlands, Piet
YOU DONT NOW WHAT YOU TALK ABOUT CHAME. 😢
Yeah i Just got this one in my suggested video's and im pretty happy. Also Dutch
As a long time listener, I'm always happy about the quality of this podcast. This video opened a whole new appreciation for the high quality of language. Not the stereotype rally English I'm used to but genuinely good pronunciation and excellent vocabulary.
Material has mostly been by Finns for Finns about Finland but I can see this one in particular having interest abroad.
Very insightful and interesting questions by the Futucast interviewer and MG's answers were eye-opening. Many thanks from Canada!
That was a very interesting discussion. Thanks!
Fun fact: For the Swedes Viking is a verb, not a noun. It is what Swedes did when they went on their travels. They ended up crossing from the Baltic sea to the Black sea for commerce by travelling the Dinpro River, hence the origin of Kievan Russ. So Ukrainians have a more legitimate claim on Russian culture than Moscow.
So it actually should be called "vikinging" - a high-risk, high-profit venture that many were called upon when their jarl decided to go.
“Naapurissa asuu karhu.” As an American whose Finnish grandfather died fighting the Russians in the Winter War, I appreciate being able to listen to these interviews in English. They help me to understand better what it was like for my grandfather, and what it is like now, for Finns to live with an such an unfriendly and aggressive neighbor always on the prowl.
Your grandfather is s hero and protector of democracy - and many other values the Founding Fathers espoused. Kiitos💪
So you know shit about your grandfather. He didn't fight against Russians,, but a Soviet Force that had an Ukrainian main compoment. Ignorance generates hatred and wars.
What Finland was fighting for with Hitler during World War 2, was they alliance for democracy?))
@@ilyaivanov7166 Indeed real history and after-made historiography are two totally different issues. Mannerheim marched eastward with Hitler and came back with Stalin...
@@henryseidel5469 you mean Finland changed shoes during a conflict easily , where is a strong position of democratic country ?
Thank you for gathering all your English videos under your playlists. Much appreciated.
Subscribed !😊
Great work, excellent interview with the best expert
Peace and respect to Finland 🇫🇮 from Jurassic coast 🇬🇧
Great interview 👍
Thank you from Sweden 🇸🇪💛🇺🇦💙🇬🇧💛🇫🇮💙🇪🇺
I really admire how smart and brave Finnland fought against the Soviet Union during the Winter War. Greetings from Germany
Not surprising that Nazis supported Nazis. But the Russians taught them all a lesson. They will do it again. Germany and Finland have no chance.
You know they lost it, right? So did Germany by the way.
@@Cao-Cao yes I know. Did I write that I admired their glory? I am Polish living in Germany by the way.
@@Cao-Cao It don't matter to us, Finland kept it's independence which is more important. Ever heard what pyrrhic victory means? I didn't expect so..
@@EerikRed What independence exactly? You follow orders from Brussels and Washington. Weak nation, weak leaders.
Onpa hyvää englanninkieltä! Wau!
Mark is really phenomenal, whatever topic you present to him, he is well-informed, deliberate, intellectually brilliant and witty. Undispensable for a rounded picture of present-day Russia.
Thank you for the video, and for recording in English. As an American it is so helpful to hear European perspectives on this war.
Thank you, algorithm.
Excellent discussion! Thanks.
This is my first time on your channel and really appreciate the smart perspectives and conversation. Thanks for the English-language episode -- I'm a Finnish-American, but you speak English far better than I speak Finnish. Keep up the great work!
Ei se nyt niin vaikeeta ole. Pullo pontikkaa, niin jo luistaa leukaperät.
Always a pleasure to hear Mark respondingvto thought provoking questions. I look forward to listening to some of your other Output in English . Glad I found you and Thank you!
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:17 🇫🇮 *The episode features an interview with historian Mark Galeotti discussing the historical connections between Finland, Russia, and NATO.*
01:23 🇷🇺 *The origin of the name "Russia" likely comes from the Finnish word for Sweden, highlighting historical connections shaped by war and invasion.*
03:41 🌍 *Mark Galeotti explains Putin's belief that he is defending Russia against a conspiratorial campaign by the West and how events since 2011 have shaped his worldview.*
09:29 🤝 *The discussion delves into the significance of NATO expansion and its impact on Russia's perception and geopolitical strategy.*
13:20 🇫🇮 *The conversation explores Finland's recent NATO membership, its historical relationship with Russia, and the nuances compared to Baltic states.*
23:14 🌐 *Putin's Russia supports divisive extremist movements globally to create tensions and hinder mobilization.*
25:29 🚧 *Russia orchestrated a refugee influx to Finland, causing a border dispute and political tension.*
27:18 🤝 *Finland faced a lose-lose situation in the border dispute, emphasizing the delicate balance in liberal democracies.*
30:18 🤔 *Resilience in liberal democracies involves compromises but must prioritize protecting core values.*
37:14 🌐 *Putin's concern for Russian minorities abroad is seen as rhetoric; leveraging their positive role could undermine his narrative.*
46:19 🌍 *Russia is seen as a potential security threat, but military establishments to repel an invasion are not being built, except by Poland.*
47:12 🤔 *Antagonistic relations with Russia are expected, with sanctions on technology and investment. Different countries have varying views on the level of danger.*
48:44 🌐 *Putin is waiting for Europe to split on the Ukraine question, using political challenges against itself. Short-term and long-term challenges to Europe's resilience are acknowledged.*
50:19 💬 *European actions depend on the outcome of the U.S. presidential elections. If Trump wins and reduces support for Ukraine, European countries may follow suit.*
54:59 💰 *Europe may not be able to replace U.S. assistance to Ukraine in case of a complete withdrawal. Building a war-oriented economy would take years.*
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Excellent interview! Listened with great interest.
We should always support Finnland because they are good neighbors of the Baltics. Regards from Latvia
Great interview and a real treat to listen to the views of a proper Scholar like Mark Galeotti. Thank you 👍🏼
Wow! Loved this show! Very smart & in English. Thanks!!
An excellent interview, thank you
Thank you for that wonderful, and enormously helpful interview. The questions were just great, and Galeotti is always great to hear on Russia. I'm in Canada, and all the questions resulted in responses that I found very helpful to my perspective on the issues from here in Canada.
Excellent interview. Thank you.
Hei Suomi from Wales ❤...
Ekat peukut irtos enkuks tehdystä jaksosta, jo ennen sen kuuntelemista 👍 lisää näitä
Very informative episode, thank you. It's nice to be able to hear other countries' take on what is important and how people outside the States look at the world and it's foibles.
Just discovered ur channel..the English language version anyway..
In the process of listening to Mark Galleotti's analysis..
Struck by his point about " th ed situation " being psychological rather than geo-strategic...
Have subscribed..will certainly keep an eye out for the EL version...thanks
Excellent interview very informative
Fantastic interview thank you
Fantastic interview.
Excellent. Highly informed and balanced analysis of this complex problem.
I thought it was
A joke
Great interview
Very good interview!
Really loved this. Thank you. ~English speaker from Espoo.
Thank you for making english language content. Subscribed and will hope for more in the future!
An excellent interview!
Very interesting interview with Mark, unfortunately I am not speaking Finnish. I will look for more of your English content. Kiitos
Incredibly high quality interview by a great Interviewer! Happy I found you, and hoping for more English Interviews (And why not some swedish ones as well ;)
Thanks!
Excellent, thank you!
Phenomenal interview with one of the best. As an American, thanks for the English upload. Subbed.
One of the best what?
@@robertvanslooten9475 These idiots are lost in a bubble. That's why you NEVER see these "bests" debating anyone from the other side of the opinion like Mearsheimer, Sachs, Ritter, RFK etc. :DD
Ritter and the others of his same lunatic , autocratic delusional politics can only spout Putin propaganda that does not reflect any sense of reality and justice of moral responsibility.
@@sixmillionaccountssilenced6721I've debated Mearsheimer. He isn't that knowledgeable. He gives answers his audience wants to hear. In reality his "hypothesis" makes zero sense. Finland proves him wrong but bots like you don't care and will whine and cry no matter the facts. Enjoy rg2.
Excellent report
Superb context picture
Thanks for your work
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Brilliant conversation
Great conversation!
Thumbs up, a very good and informative interview. This line of reasoning looks rather solid and compelling to me, although I admittedly still struggle to make up my mind between this and other (partly) differing opinions on this subject, like the one from Timothy Snyder or John Mearsheimer.
I am overjoyed to subscribe, this is excellent content! Being a huge fan of Finnish webcomic creators led me to study Finnish culture and history, and admire your mythology and art. I felt enormous pride and gratification when Finland joined NATO, much to the benefit of the alliance, despite abhorring the Russian aggression against which said alliance exists to protect us all. In recent years we Americans have had few opportunities for genuine national pride (being ourselves conscious of the danger our nation poses to the world unless we defeat our current fascist movement) but for the nation of Finland to join us in security partnership presents a fine instance of our treasured national and civilizational idea, of free people cooperating to the benefit of all and lending each other our strength, at need, to protect against ruin by barbarism, either bandits or grifters or thugs. And that is to be celebrated, for the splendid achievement it is; honor is gained by both who extend trust and reward it, make oaths and keep them, rule themselves rather than be reigned over by another.
@judithbradford9130 Thank you from 🇫🇮! Couldn't agree more with you. Keep defending the truth, keep defending democracy!
Thank you for this excellent interview.
Excellent interview and very informative!
I know it's not at all the point of the podcast, I'd just like to point out that "Garðaríki" does not mean Land of Towers, it means Land of Farms, or Land of Settlements, or Land of Village Houses/Farmhouses (there are some other meanings for garðr as well, it is for example the root of the English "yard"). It's cognate with the modern Scandinavian "gård" of the same meaning. It is also from where the Russian/Ukrainian word "grad", meaning town/city, comes from
I would like to assure you LastCrusader that there are other people in the world who find this discussion of language origins and similarities utterly fascinating. I studied Beowulf at university and have never lost this love of language. I was familiar with the term midgard but didn't know it related to the Russian grad. We are all related!!
From Winnipeg Manitoba...
@@user-fo5qx7xb7s Yes, it truly is fascinating and especially for me as a Scandinavian, to see a word (or a local variant of it rather) I still use in my language today all over city names in Russia/Ukraine/the former USSR!
It's interesting how so many words from the Old Norse language have changed so radically that I can no longer understand them, and yet a word like Garðaríki is so similar to the modern word (Gårdarike). And that is with my native language Swedish probably having the most loan words of the Scandinavian languages, especially from German. Window, for example, is still called vindu ("eye of the wind" and the cognate word for the English window) in Norwegian and vindue in Danish while it is "fönster" (from the German "fenster") in Swedish. The word "vindöga" exists in Swedish, but it is very archaic and certainly most people and especially not younger people would know what it is.
I went on a rant there, oops! But yes, it's fascinating how big the Old Norse influence was on surrounding languages, especially for its time
Well done ! Your questions was on point, and prof. Galeotti answered comprehensibly.
One thing came up for me, this old political principle: Divide & Impera.
russia, being not as strong as west follows this principle. This is a big concern in the long run.
Thank you! More like this.
More like this? Help!
Thank you!
Excellent Soumi..!! From an Irishman (we in recent history, have many parallels).
Mr. Galeotti is a very wise man.
Is he?
@@robertvanslooten9475
STOP TROLLING BOTSKY !!🤢🤮
seems to me like he's a british agitator to rally against their rival russia....too bad we listen to these colonial scum overlords, when uk is fast becoming irrelevant
Great discussion. I think that Mark is correct about Ukraine fatigue. However, what no one seems to talk about are the tens of thousands of Ukrainian property owners who have been dispossessed of their holdings by the Russian invasion. Not to mention the property owners in Free Ukraine who have had their buildings shelled and themselves or their relatives maimed by Russian bombs. If the West stops large scale military aid then the dispossessed will simply resort to undertake insurgencies either in the occupied areas of their country or Russia, until they get their land and buildings beck, plus recompense for other losses. It doesn’t matter therefore what the politicians say or what the peace treaty states - the fight to get back what’s yours will continue .. If any large scale take back of territory occurs then this will probably be terminal for Putin politically, and he will be handed over to the west for trial
Very intersting, thanks from Germany 😊
Btw. I’m American, from Maryland. Love the English version!
The Nato expension rhetoric is just a legend. When this sentence was supposed to be said, the Warshaw pact was still existing, so, how westerners could have known in advance ? It makes absolutely no sense. Just repeating this as an anecdote is already too much. There are more concrete documents that have been signed and that were violated blatantly by the Russians. The Budapsest memorendum is one of them. Why not talking about this rather then this anecdote that just feeds the Kremlin narrative.
Russia is very good at breaking existing international agreements, while demanding everyone else adhere to non existent agreements
"Russia would view further (NATO) eastward expansion as a potential military threat"
"In Ukraine, these include fears that the issue could potentially split the country in two, leading to violence or even, some claim, civil war, which would force Russia to decide whether to intervene."
"Not only does Russia perceive encirclement, and efforts to undermine Russia's influence in the region, but it also fears unpredictable and uncontrolled consequences which would seriously affect Russian security interests."
1 Feb 2008, leaked cable "RUSSIA'S NATO ENLARGEMENT REDLINE" by William Burns, former Ambassador to Russia, current CIA director
@@ewartmouton Said the Kremnlin or agents of the Kremlin.. And please could you all stop to write in capitals. Screaming at people do not make your total lack of argumentation stronger or more valid. It is just sounding even more ridiculous.
Incisive, eloquent & interesting - thank you both especially Mark Galeotti for a great listen.
Ruotsi comes from Roslagen. (Coastal area of Sweden that faces Finland.)
Roslagen roughly means "rowing parish" (any Swedes correct if I'm wrong). So Ros/Rus might have been what rowers manning raiding and trading boats called thenselves.
That's also where Varangians that founded the Kyivan Rus came from. Grand duchy of Moscow later adopted this old name for their emerging empire.
Brilliant interview! He's outlined so much with which I agree (as if that matters😂), particularly about the West's response and the lack of a real Ukraine strategy because of an unwillingness to face and discuss differences within the bloc.
My first time to watched you channel, very interesting discussion, i like English-speaking episodes because, I'm Somali and likes to get stay informed in these Global conflicts, i don't speak other than my mother tongue Somali and English language, So make for the audience English speaking channel to follow-up the recently event's in global politics and crisis, thank you these great discussions.
Somali; this is a false narrative. NATO expansion to the Russian borders is the reason why Russia; not Putin is destroying Ukraine regime.
Check NATO Bukharest decision. Read the RAND report etc. there is a Mountain of evidence to see that NATO wanted to provoke Russia; destroy it and fragment it into little mini states for easy economic exploitation by these imperialist powers.
Your excellent English reaffirms my belief that Finns are some of the greatest people in the world. Your uncompromising love of freedom is an example to the whole world.
What you wrote is bullshit.
Great podcast. Shall follow you from now on.
THank You from Grimsby Ontario Canada!!
Thanks for what?
No, both the Finnish "Ruotsi" and "Rus" come from the swedish word "ro" which means "to row" (pronounced "roo" or "rue") The people who went viking down the Dnipro came from the coast north of today's Stockholm called Roslagen, Land of the rowers - or literally: "Rower's law", meaning the land where the rowing people make the laws.
Not so according to research. Roslagens population was too small to have had such an influence.
The land was Roden in Finland known as Ruotsi. The people were ros and the territory was sometimes called as Roslagen mainly I suppose by the swedes. I dont believe the ro thing at all. Why would any tribe call themselves rowers? In Nestors chronicle it is very clearly said that the varangians were different tribes, swedes, rus etc
'Roslagen' is probably loan word for old Finnic 'ruotsi' word that comes from rowing sound and has mostly mean enemies that come with boats like Swedish many times did. Word is circulated all over Baltic sea and are now in Finnish words of Ruotsi and ryssä that is base of Rysland->Russia.
@@KA-jm2cz Roslagen actually means Ros law as Danelagen means Danish Law, might also sometimes have refered to skeppslag ,shipteam. the Ros and Swedes were different tribes
@@KA-jm2cz How would that happen, since Finnish speakers did not go west and settle in today's Sweden, while norse speakers went east? Did some norse speakers go to today's Finland, change what they called themselves and then everyone "at home" learned that exonym and start to use it about themselves? Has that ever happened anywhere?
Kannattaisiko tehdä enemmän englanninkielisiä haastattejuja? Potentiaalin yleisön määrä olisi silloin valtavasti suurempi. Ainakin minun korvaani englantisi on äidinkielen tasolla, joten jenkitkin jaksaisi kuunnella.
Much appreciated from USA
Great interview.
Thank you, this was good analysis. Just wanted to note re: Russia's approach towards Finland vs the Baltic States - Finland does not have a large ethnic Russian population present, while in Latvia and Lithuania, already in early 1990s, right after those countries' re-gaining of independence, Russia made it's policy to use the Russian speakers to put pressure on those countries - this is called the Karaganov doctrine.
And Latvia did it more or less right and incorporated russian culture and language into the state. Lithuania did it differently. And Ukraine did the worst, de-russify the Donbas and supporting nazi ideology.
Lithuania didn't have a large Russian minority like Latvia and Estonia. The Poles have basically always been a bigger minority than Russians ever were and more troublesome since Russians are more spread out across the country thus making them less of a problem overall. Are you sure you didn't mean Latvia and Estonia?
@@MrBallynally2 Stop with the Putin nonsense.
This was a interesting discussion, I learned alot about russia relations, thank you.
Be careful!
@@robertvanslooten9475 care to elaborate?
Helpful analysis, thanks!
Excellent interview and discussion. I’ll monitor this channel for future content in English.
Great interview. I personally think Alexander Stubb, if he's presid, will really have a big influence on getting the EU to wake up !
So would his competitor, no?
Hi from Denmark, before the invasion of Ukraine, Finland and Sweden wanted to stay neutral, it backfired from Putin
Thank you for the interview!
As a Russian who was educated in West and making own way , I do see that education plays a huge role and if EU wants to have more civilised Russia in the future, it should let its young people to come and be able to receive education here.
Instead what’s happening now is that young men of Russia who don’t want to go to war to kill people facing difficulty to go and to live abroad. I do not say that EU should open its borders for Russians to travel freely like Ukrainians, but it should be considered that Putin’s propaganda does effect the brain of those who are there, making exactly the same - they radicalize their views - so those, who are hesitating before about who’s side to take or even if they were agains war , are now using the same rethorics that if NATO would not expand and bla bla bla … its very dangerous und unfortunate that even younger people are getting victims of state propaganda as they don’t hear or see any support from the West that would help them to think otherwise.
Excellent - thank you Mark for your insight and clarity.
He is clair to me in another way than you meant.
@@robertvanslooten9475He didn't waste any time getting into falsehoods. 3:40 He claims that putin wrongly believes there's some sort of western agenda to harm Russia. Lloyd Austin, Lindsay Graham and Biden have said as much numerous times. There are other examples.
For those who think it's all post SMO rhetoric, John McCain was saying similar things on visits to Keeve during Obamas reign....
@@gmw3083 Quotations?
@@anthonycook6613 I don't do spoon feeding. Find them yourself. Or stay lost.
@@gmw3083 Wow, that was a little defensive!
Almost as though, if you had to dig up any actual quotes, they wouldn't really back up your claim.
I mean, that's fine ... but I hope you'll be ok with my new CZcams channel called "GMW says he has sex with vegetables". You did say that, right? True, I don't have any actual *quotes* of you saying it, but that's not MY problem. You can always find the quotes yourself ... can't you?
Pragmatic and realistic thoughts by mr Galeotti. Russia is a limping self proclaimed giant. If you want to counter its actions you should recognise them for what they are, and then concentrate on the ones that really matter. Which is what Galeotti did.
This guest was brilliant. Thank you!
Brilliant in which way?
@@robertvanslooten9475 I would say the guest came across as highly educated on the Russian viewpoint, understanding the nuances of history, Russian values, and the differentiation on their views of Slavic relations (say with the northern or southern Slavs) and territory they believe belongs to Russia proper (e.g. Ukraine, Belorussia). And yet, he maintains a strong knowledge of the nuances existing in the NATO alliance and Western powers. He came across much more objectively than many commentators on this issue that I have seen. Also, the interview itself was very well conducted. The interviewer had great questions and then gave the guest a lot of time to respond.
@@BuergerPT It's all about opinions. Everyone's own opinion. Opinions don't decide what's right or wrong.
@@robertvanslooten9475 But I think we’d have to say that facts exist and therefore statements which claim to be more than just opinion are meaningful. Otherwise, your last statement is meaningless and so is this reply. So what we have in this interview is a mix of facts and opinions. But that is usually true of human communication.
Are you really trying to communicate that you disagree with the guest? If so, that’s fine, but trying to pretend that facts don’t exist is not the way to get there.
@@robertvanslooten9475 Or, maybe I misunderstood your point. Are you saying that this interview is too opinionated and not utilizing facts enough? Maybe that’s your point….
That was fine and informative. Thanks. I remember Mark giving a lecture, perhaps in ~ 2018, in Lithuania, Kaunas.
This rattle and break game is going on everywhere. Individually harmless the collective velocity is beyond dangerous.
You're right.
Excellent interview. The interviewer's dexterity with the English language is impressive.
The choice of Mark was spot on.
Very clever analysis, thank you
One interesting example of the more pragmatic relationship the Finns have had with Russia that ended with the invasion is Jokerit Helsinki, the hockey team that had been playing in the KHL. The Russians invade Ukraine, Jokerit quits the KHL & Finland joins NATO.
And now Finland feel safe. 😆
While there surely must have been some shady deals between Finland and Russia, I believe it is rather difficult and counterproductive not to have relations with a neighbouring country. Even before the current war, most people knew about the dangers of aligning with Russia. I can't outright blame Jokerit or other companies having business. Certainly there's been money exchanging hands under the table, but I'm not sure if there was enough valid reasons to isolate such a large nation.
Now Finland has simply lost its independence and become a US colony, congratulations.@@djnorth2020
@@khersonskiyarbuzkhersonski2460 Yeah no. Just being part of a defense coalition doesn't make you a slave to a country half a world away. We had already had joint training operations, making systems match with other western nations.
Of course best would be no need for strong military but that's utopia very few countries have lived. Luxembourg, Sweden... Even they need to prepare. One day Russia might be a companion not a threat but that unforeseen future.
Look further into the situation, American troops will remain in Finland for a long time, and even after 50-100 years there will be no chance of withdrawing them. The short-sighted West is sponsoring a meat grinder, trying to justify Russia's alleged encroachment on NATO countries in the future. Russia was only concerned about Ukraine in Transnistria @@djnorth2020
Frankly interesting!