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Ineos Grenadier road test and underside lookaround
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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2023
- LRM try out the Ineos Grenadier Fieldmaster, and get it up on a ramp for an underside tour. Read the full test in the September 2023 issue of Land Rover Monthly!
I got mine on the 22/04/2023 and have now done 4750 miles - I love it. Smooth, powerful, moderately quick and built like a bank safe. The software cries wolf too often for my liking, but there is a fix on the way and I have some minor issues with door seals retaining water. Looking at the underneath, it makes an old Defender look dainty. The Grenadier is not "dainty", at 2.7T it is too heavy, but the size of the axles, (from Carraro), and the chassis, (from Gestamp), go a long way to show where that weight has collected. The chassis is painted like an oil rig, (not galvanised), the fixed body panels are galvanised, the moveable panels are all alloy, (but don't feel it). I am looking forwards to a long and happy ownership, (having sold a 1989 LR110CSW and a 1991 LR90D to help pay for it).
2.9 tonnes! Harry metcalf weighed it on his weigh bridge ! 😬
@@PaulNewnham-ek1uj His has more toys than mine - and you don't know what other stuff ws in it.
3000 very enjoyable miles in mine, including 750 miles in a 16 hour period. First car that makes me feel as happy as I did when driving my Td5 Defender.
@@JeremyEdwards996 errr 😂 clutching at straws! Weigh your properly and if it is under 2800 kg I’ll buy ya beer ! 😂
are there clear pro/cons re painted vs galvanized frames?
Lovely vehicle. Very glad it exists!
Looks very well made. Pity the exhaust couldn’t be re-routed from factory to the left hand side. Would allow for a larger fuel tank.
No it isn't the build quality is horrendous
@lastwalkaroundmirrorlake What aspects disappoint you? Vehicle is not available where I'm based so I can't form a direct judgment.
The interiors plastics and the fit and finish is horrendous, missing screws, carpet cut blindfolded, this is a £70k car not a Dacia Sandero@@philhealey4443
Was that the starter motor i saw hanging at the bottom centre of the oil pan??
It looks like it is. I imagine folks will find out pretty quickly how well it is sealed. At least it should be easy to replace, in some versions of the Landcruiser it is between the cylinder banks.
You was too kind 😉 at least you tested the ground clearance 😳. Steering damper is very low and the front and rear guards will get you stuck on steep soft going
Plus you can get 2 Hi Lux Invincibles for the price of one Grenadier . Also the commercial Grenadier is not VAT qualifying neither is the double cab pickup. They say they can only make around 20,000 per annum, of which 6000 for the UK. I think they are prepared to risk the fact they have no tax advantages and hope they have 6000 private orders. Land Rover lost money on there old Defenders and at best built 20,000 PA, they now can make 125,000 profitable New Defenders PA
@@Ardventures About ⅔ of those 6000 must be commercial vehicles. Unless even the passenger glazed ones are classed as ‘commercial’ with the attendant lower speed limits, and considering that VAT is not reclaimable on the commercials due to the low payload, they will struggle to sell the part panel-sided commercials to anyone. I cancelled my Grenadier five seat panel version when I confirmed that the VAT and income tax relief did not apply and saved over £30,000 plus the tax relief by buying a new Ford Ranger Wildtrak 2.0, which will also save me a lot of fuel on top. For a commercial fleet, they could buy three Ranger Wildtraks for the price of two Grenadier Quartermasters and still have a couple of Grand change. The latest Fords have full time 4wd by the way and the power to weight ratio of even the 2.0 biturbo is better than the Grenadier’s.
How about the fuel tank?
fieldmasters DONT have locking diffs as std,that is the Trialmaster
Good lord the underside of that is vulnerable. The steering damper would get smashed to bits on the rocks where I wheel, they should have tucked that up more. I wonder if you can re-route it? At least the trans is tucked up but that needs and armor and the transfer case is low and unarmored 🤦♂️ doesn’t look like it has a fuel skid either. Not sure where the oil pan is. This all sucks because it is more $ needed to be spent after purchase on an already pricy rig. This shit should be standard, at least on any model with lockers. What about the angle on the driveshaft- will that needed to be corrected for a lift to fit 33s or 35s? Seeing now how vulnerable a lot of the underbits are that for me would be a number 1 priority for my uses.
Thanks for the vid. This is one of the more interesting veh to come out but trying to get legit info on it and not just a marketing brochure has been tough. I wish i could have done a test drive day when they were around, but alas work.
The Fieldmaster is meant for just that - field use. Not hard trails. The Trialmaster has a lot more underbody protection, I believe.
@@spdcrzy so you’re telling me they built a $72K body on frame, solid front and rear axle vehicle to drive across grass? News flash, a Corolla can do that. Stop making excuses. They built a potentially great offroader and then made some dumb decisions and absolutely botched the pricing, at least in NA. Just classic I need to go to REI and buy mountaineering gear to walk my dog on the grass field in the park so everyone knows Im outdoorsy.
@@dadventuretv2538 If you're in Africa, your biggest worry isn't rocks. Underbody protection isn't as important as dead simple mechanical pieces that are all easily accessible.
What do think it would be like to work on?
Very packed underneath the bonnet.
I bought mine a couple months ago, but I haven't seen it for the last 5 weeks and counting. The vehicle has a cabin heater/ aircon fault, and despite several attempts, Ineos Technical don't seem to have a clue how to fix the fault.
Not that they will lose any sleep - they have been paid in full for the vehicle, so they'll get around to fixing it in their own time.
I bought this 4x4 because I need it for work - but Ineos will not lend me a replacement. Why would they, I have paid in full and have no leverage.
I wrote to Lynn Calder Ineos CEO to try to get some movement on this fix - no response from the boss, zilch. So, she clearly doesn't care.
The underside is completely open to the elements to such a degree that this thing will be a rust bucket in a short time. Shame, great on the outside but I'll wait for the new Toyota Land Cruiser.
Were you hoping to see more plastic aero panels underneath?
you moved 2 feet and it was yelling at you....why are cars nowadays so angry.
Bloody shame it’s not built in Britain like they said it would be.. that’s my biggest problem and the fact they have the BMW engines… not a fan, especially the diesels! I’ve also seen a few videos with one owner returning it as the quality control really isn’t there yet and the dealers just fobbing customers off!
Not good enough for the price..
Land Rover were great at playing that game!!!
Cost over 1.5 billion pounds to build using a brand new Mercedes factory in Hambach with a ready made workforce. How much would the build have been the UK? No factory. No ready made workforce. No related experience such as Magna Steyer right next door. I shudder to think.
Bloody shame the welsh government blocked it!!! //
You mean the same owner that posted a CZcams video saying this is the greatest car ever. Then 2 days later saying he selling it but already had a buyer lined up. He also made a profit on the sale. Plus, when you hear him talk, he had no clue what he ordered. He complained about the rear seat position despite him ordering the commercial version which indicated the rear seats sat closer to front so you could fir a Euro pallet in the back. The same guy who made comments that he was going to turn it into a G wagon for half the price with making different rim selections to make it look cooler. Get a rear wheel cover like G wagon. So you mean that guy?
@@peopleschamp7258 lol. Maybe!
@@peopleschamp7258 quality of build is still ridiculous for the money!
Can't haul anything.
Seats don't fold flat.
Rear door is British logic.
No towing cap.
Not really off road capable.
Fobbing off or telling the fobbing truth!!!! Why is it Land Rover specialists fit BMW cause it fobbing works!!!!!
yea you've done 5 pages of it in the mag and one page 2 paragraphs on the billing show piss poor mate stopped my subs