IRP & IFTA Explained - CDL vs Non-CDL
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For folks who drive mostly intrastate at 26,001+ GCVWR, there's another option, which is to buy trip permits that cover GVW registration and fuel taxes each time one crosses state lines. I did this on the occasional OTR run I'd make in the construction off season with my lowboy, it was MUCH cheaper to do this than to do IRP with a class 8 truck. Trip permits may be purchased online through a state's permitting system (also used for OS/OW permits) or at weigh stations/PoEs. They generally last for a few days, but I've also seen options to purchase annual permits, which would probably make sense for regional carriers who only travel through a few states.
The permit fees add-up quickly, so this is only practical if someone rarely needs to cross state lines and the costs of those permits doesn't exceed the cost of just doing IFTA/IRP. For example, on an OS/OW (27,000# and 10'4" wide on no IFTA/IRP), running 471 miles through NM, I paid about $83 in fees related to registration and fuel tax, plus a $25 oversize permit fee. I would've only had to pay the OS fee if I'd been using IRP/IFTA. I think it's possible to get the fuel tax refunded by furnishing proof of fuel purchase, but that would be more hassle than it's worth.
Since I have a CDL as a non-CDL hotshot, I'm also able to upgrade to occasional CDL-weight hauling through trip permits as well, while maintaining relatively cheap registration and no IFTA. The DOT seems to care more about axle and tire ratings not being exceeded than trailer GVWR, so it's possible to go well over 26k total GCVW without hassle, as long as the driver has a CDL and pays what's owed for upkeep of the roads through the trip permits. Since almost all of my loads are under 26,000 pounds, it's mostly worthwhile to just purchase the occasional permit at this time when a customer either gets the weight wrong or I just want to take a heavier load because it's paying well enough to cover permits and the additional fuel/wear-and-tear on my equipment. That would change quickly if I found myself regularly running heavy loads, $80 here and $120 there still add-up quickly, so the $1800 I estimate I'm saving in a year by doing things this way wouldn't take long to run out.
Solid points and info, thanks for sharing for everyone
You have help me out big time with all your personal information you have been giving out. Keep up the great work.
Your videos are super helpful, especially to someone (like me) who's just getting started. Continue to be amazed at how you've got this all figured out. Thanks for the great content!
Ur a doll! Thx Patrick
And good luck !!
Quick comment - thank you! You really have made learning about this much easier. You take the time to explain things, interspersed with real life experience. It’s fascinating.
I'm happy to hear it's helped you.thanks Douglas 😃
Thanks for all the info you put out. 1.Why did you go away from enterprise? 2. How did you build business credit and are you using virtual office? If so which one? Congrats on your success.
Thanks deric
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I can easily run 20 states and 2-4 provinces in a trip. Most I’ve owed IFTA has been around $35-40 :) GVWR of 34k. Upgrading to 54700lb.
What truck and trailer combo
Great info sharing! I know the video is old but I’m just now seeing it 😊
No worries!
Thank you so much! I am just starting to research getting into this.
Good deal, happy to help
Great content!! Thanks for breaking this down and explaining how IRP & IFTA works!!
Awesome info as usual. I watched a couple of times to make sure I didn't miss anything🤓
This country has so many departments to do this or that. The fees are high and they are many, the insurance alone can make one not go for it. It's astronomically monetarily to operate any profitable trucking, Hot Shot operations. Some have to fold early due to all these fees being implemented initially and yearly. It seems GREED from federal and state entities always requiring all these fees with their hands extended, if not, they CLOSE you completely down with penalties!
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Great video, thanks for the info. God bless and stay safe ❤️🙏
Let's make IFTA and fuel purchases a little simpler. You should buy your fuel wherever you get the lowest fuel price (pump price less state and federal taxes). All IFTA does is take the percentage of total miles you drove in each state divided by your average milage to get gallons used in that state and calculates the taxes you should have paid on fuel used in that state to that state. It then takes what you did pay in taxes to each state by purchasing fuel in each state and calculates your charge or credit for fuel taxes. Once these are all netted out for each state, you are billed or credited with the difference. What you pay in the end has nothing to do with where you buy fuel, it has to do with your prorated miles driven in each state and what you should pay them in fuel tax on a prorated basis. This should always be a relatively small number, positive or negative, because it is only the difference between all the state taxes you owed on fuel minus all the state taxes you already paid on fuel. IFTA takes care of transferring the money from one state treasury to the next based on all truckers use over the quarter and how much they paid in fuel tax in each state and how much each state is owed based on mileage driven.
Great information. I hope to have my company started by April 2021!
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Very Informative! Thank you.
love these light loads...the name of my co was mt transport (empty)..lol
Very informative .
Great information
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Do I need IRP if I’m running 26,000 and lower and still going over state lines?
This is my question as well.
It was towards the end. Under 26000 non cdl doesnt have to do ifta
My Gcvw is 25,500. I run non cdl I dont have to have ifta
I bought 24ft box truck in Texas I got apportioned to just to keep my options open incase I go out of state.thanks for the info
Glad your watching. A lot of what I review is good trucking info, regardless of equipment. 😀
🧡💙💜 stay safe and good luck
I just bought a truck still haven’t registered it aside from what the dealer gives u. truck and trailer are about 24k lbs combined and will be hauling mainly heavy construction equipment like backhoes mini excavators etc .. do I register it through IRP? How does that work and when do I get my IFTA ?
If you're hauling your own equipment for your construction company you probably don't need it. I would make some calls and double check though
I'm in Georgia my box truck is a Freightliner FL70 26ft. I don't understand why I need IRP TAGs????? Im crossing state lines but I'm under weight...Why do I still need IRP tags?
I’m in bama they saying the same thing , did u get it solved?
Ayyye, your hair is different.
So, I hear several people state that their 1st 99 days is hard, because you are new which I get, but what happens after that? Also, does previous experience come into play if your experience was through someone else?
Good information. But what does your shirt say ?
"Yes they are all mine"
Referring to all my critters 🐈🐕🐎🐐🐢🐓
Thanks for the explanation! You mentioned passing through Oregon to get to Washington. Did you need a permit for Oregon since you were just passing through?
Yes Oregon, NM, NY, and KY, but KY only if you are over 55k# I believe
@@HotshotAdventures Thanks!
in Texas, if Im running non cdl (under 26k). What plates can I run?
Regular texas plates
Also ucr
Even though the Enterprise Truck was technically a rental, you were running California plates?
No, the enterprise truck came with Indiana plates. However, because I am an interstate carrier running over 26k#, I registered it with apportioned plates. At the end of the rental, I removed my plates, put the Indiana plates back on, and completed the return
@@HotshotAdventures Thanks! You’ve inspired me to get started too! Working on my CDL and with enterprise being low on inventory I might opt to purchase a Truck as well instead of getting one from them since I don’t know the lead time.
Appreciate all you do!
Flash thank you for watching! I'm honored, so glad to help, if you need 1 on 1, feel free to reach me through patreon.com
Let me see if I understood :
I need to register my truck and trailer with IRP if I will be doing interstate business and over 26,001 #....?
Or register with DMV if intrastate business.....?
Correct, If you only want to run in your state, you would register truck in your state only, at the dmv.
So I have my DOT and MC number but I’m running local I don’t plan on going out of state as of the moment I have my full year plates not portion do I still need Ifta?
No apportioned plates, no ifta.
How long is your trailer, what do you pay for insurance having your own mc and dot
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Excuse the newbie question....Are you required to get the commercial insurance if you're NON CDL?
To run commercially, yes you need commercial insurance
@@HotshotAdventures So if I stay under 26,000 GCWR then it’s NON-CDL and I don’t need commercial insurance, IRP, or IFTA?
I'm also in socal and currently looking into getting in the hotshot business. I would really appreciate it if i could get some help from you getting started. Insurance costs in particular
today! Did a couple videos on insurance, check them out 👍
What’s the name of the company that charged you $50?
I forget. My driver Jessie does them for $100 if you want her #
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I'm wanting to sign on under a company once i get my CDL (wont be long). My thing is, who deals with IFTA if i go and get apportioned plates? (Im in Texas)
Depends on the company. Most add it in.
As a new authority in Southern California what insurance company do you recommend?
Were you able to find insurance yet?
Do I need a IRP if I have a hot shot business which haul 4 cars maximum . My truck is GVWR is 14,000 and trailer is GVWR is 25,900
Any gcwr of over 26,000
You need irp if hauling interstate
Hello, I am new to this business, just setup a hot shot non cdl, interstate and my mc just approved, my question is: I must have an IRP ?
Under 26k , no
Did you have to get apportioned plates Jean?
Does the non CDL 26,000 lbs include the weight of the truck and trailer ?
Non cdl is total weight under 26k
hi we have a sprinter van traveling state to state were based in VA do we still need IRP?
Is the van tagged for over 26k#?
no, not required if a sprinter weighst over 26K I would love to see that sprinter ;)
How's the new truck coming along
I'm looking forward to seeing it tomorrow
Its at the mechanic getting normal maintenance done..filters, fluid changes of all kinds etc..
@@HotshotAdventures cool is your daughter going to be driving it
I dont think she has interest in following my footsteps. Although she does enjoy going with me and helping and seeing new places
@@HotshotAdventures thanks for the reply
I am 26,00 pounds on registration and I am crossing state lines do I need ifta?? I am confused
no. you do not need ifta.
"When trucks or combinations have two axles and are at or under 26,000 pounds gross weight or registered gross weight, IFTA does not apply."
Think of IFTA and CDL and commercial. So a 16-26ft box truck running around does not need IFTA the same for a non-CDL hotshot, just look at the trucks in your area.
Do you see IFTA stickers on any of them ?
Also one more thing if it was not clear, and semi 18wheeler doing intrastate does NOT have IFTA. So it boils down to if you cross state lines and the weight of the vehicle. In TX as long as my GVWR is 26000 or less no IFTA or if my GCWR is 26000 or less n IFTA for interstate travel.
Contact your commercial vehicle enforcement for your "state" and for advise
How do you get paid? Are all your deliveries COD?
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Do Box truck I owner operator under 2600 GVWR need to file ifta ?
No
@@HotshotAdventures thanks you 💯
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why does ifta charge anything ?
Because someone at some point thought it was a good idea to charge i suppose
@@HotshotAdventures i mean, if you buy fuel in every state i wonder how or why anyone would owe anything? as you said, the tax is already include in the price of the fuel. hm. ok then
Remember ifta is for anyone hauling over 26k. Includes big rigs. Fuel tanks on big rigs average 150 gallons, and there are 2 of them.
Hotshots also, some carry an auxiliary tank which could have capacity of 100+ gallons.
So not everyone HAS to fuel in every state. If you are leaving California, where diesel is almost $4/gallon, and going to AZ, or nv, where diesel is much less, normal thought process would be to wait until you get to the next state. Well ifta makes sure truckers pay either way :)
Not saying I like it or its fair, its just the way it is
@@HotshotAdventures oh, i see. ok, fair enough. thanks
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