The Hunchback of Notre Dame Theory - Parents? Book References? The REAL Ending? - The Fangirl
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this movie is DEPRESSINGLY underrated.
No its not😑😡😡😡
what do you mean? Barely anybody appreciates the gold that is this movie. this movie was the closest thing to how love happened in real at the time. its underrated
I love this movie... Especially the way they could form the carachter of Frollo...
same....even if people think im weird for it but... Dom Claude Frollo is one of the most developed characters in the movie, he is also my favorite Disney character of all time.
M K yes
but if he was imagining the ending. why wouldn't he imagine ending up with Esmeralda?
Self-loathing and being a nice guy. He knew who Esmerelda liked romantically and he thought he wasn't good enough for her. So he dreamed up a happy ending for her too.
The Fangirl yeah I guess :) I always had a theory about the fox and the hound if you'd like to hear it
What is your theory?
xSugar coated dreamsXx maybe over the coarse of events toward the end of the movie he realizes that what he wants more than her is to just be excepted by society. Also Frollo showed him what happens when you obsess over that.
too low self-esteem
My mother is white and my father is Hispanic. I am brown like my father but my brother is white like my mother. Me and my brother are 100% siblings but look nothing alike. Sometimes genetics will favor one skin tone over another.
But that is with the mixing of genetics too (I would guess you might even have more diversity between your parents too?), recessive genes make things more conplicated om how children turn out, but it's very strongly implied that both of Quasimodo's parents areally shown on screen. So, this is the equivalent of two white people giving birth to Michael Clarke Duncan - something doesn't match in that DNA!
The Fangirl not exactly true. You forgot about further genetics and ancestry
This is also true for my children, even as half siblings. Even myself. My mother being unusual due to the fact that she is Dominican with very pale skin. My father is Costa Rican and much darker in complexion. I take after my dad. As a stay at home mom, my skin turns lighter in winter (I can almost pass as white to strangers from a distance) because it is too cold for the kids to go out and play. In summer my skin tone turns back to my father's skin tone.
Maybe Quasi just got recessive genes and turned out lighter. Who knows the ancestry that passed that down. In the book its mentioned hes born into the Gypsies but doesnt say the parents are. The gypsies abandoned him and he was found and adopted by Frollo . That's by the book tho, the movie had a different beginning
@@pugmcmuffins9282 i totally agree and can relate to this. My parents and my half siblings all have significantly darker skin tones being primarily of African-American ancestry dating back many generations. Yet when I was born my complexion was that of a white Caucasian. I also was not outdoors much as a child. In spite of this I had melanin in my skin & still stared to get naturally tanner (albeit still significantly lighter by a large margin by comparison) into my adult years. My skin melanin also does naturally fluctuate in tone depending on the seasons. Also just as a side fun fact to mention, I realized after doing more dna ancestry tests and research showed a bit of southeast Asian dna that carried over into my appearance that is not seen in either of my parents or siblings. This has always made people often ask of my ancestry especially when they learned of my upbringing and family and why I look so much different. Needless to say it was an obvious recessive trait from a few centuries back that somehow became dominant in my appearance. That's just the beauty and randomness of the way genetics works. It's not as linear or as black and white (literally and figuratively) as some would think to argue that it may be.
It's not really impossible for him to come from dark skinned parents. His parents could have had a parent that was light skinned. I mean, I have two elder sisters who could pass for of European descent (they are very pale), and my skin tone is much darker than theirs. Both my parents are dark skinned, but only my grandmother has the same skin tone as my sisters. The DNA traits game doesn't stop with the parents...not by a long shot.
Melany McGinnis
What ethnicity are you
First I'd like to say thank you for using ethnicity instead of race. ^___^ And to answer your question, Hispanic; El Salvadorian to be exact.
No! Not weird! For an anthropologist like myself there is no weird only interesting. ^_^ And my fiancee is the youngest of 3, and everyone, his siblings, his parents have brown eyes...he's the interesting one with green ones. ^_^
Anthro Girl Yes, a friend of mine has red hair and pale skin and green eyes while her sister has dark skin, black hair and brown eyes
So while listening to the whole first half about four minutes of this video I disagreed she saying that Quasimoto is not the birth child of the gypsies doesn't seem accurate to me it could be very possible that he was her son just because his skin is lighter and has red hair means nothing.. I loved reading all of guys post about people being diffrent skin tones from there siblings showing that not all famies are one shade or one type.... .... Plus if you look at some of the stills she posted about the mother and the father there was a guy standing to back-right of the mother who has lighter skin and looks a little deformed as maybe he is the father and the other guy is just the leader and is protecting her being that she is the only femeal in the group and that could be why he said "Shut it up" because its not his child... Js.
in the musical Quasimodo is the son of Frollo's brother and a gypsy he fell in love with ( i know its not canon but it's an interpratation)
I like that version!!
@Niji Tsubasa In the book Quasimodo had gypsies origins and Esmeralda was purely French. We hear a conversation in one the last books of Notre-Dame De Paris: a woman hated gypsies because some had exchanged her baby with another baby who was hunchback, this woman appeared to be: Esmeralda's mother and she abandoned the ugly baby in a church, never heard of Jehan's affair with a gypsy (although it could make sense)
Does anyone hear that crackling sound? Yup, that's the sound of everyone's childhood breaking along with their hearts.
7:22 "And Phoebus met a tragic end as well, he married." That's exactly what it said in the book. 😂
I haven’t actually read the book, but I now Phoebus actually turns into a jerk against Esmerelda. She wasn’t a gypsy either
@@kristinahuchison2511 Yeah, Phoebus is cold-hearted and narcistic in the book, and he marries another woman, unaware of the tragedies taking place concerning Esmeralda, Frollo and Quasimodo, who all die in the book.
This isn't how skin color works. Darker colors are more dominant, BUT people with darker colors still have all the genetic information to produce the lighter colors but it is unlikely since the darker colors are dominant. People of the same skin color can always produce children with the same skin color or lighter. This means two gypsies with olive-skin could absolutely produce a fair skin child, especially if it's one who already has a variety of rare genetic traits as shown in Quasimodo who has red hair (light color,) blue eyes (light color,) fair skin (light color,) and physical deformities. Quasimodo doesn't have to be albino to have light colored skin, hair, or eyes, it's absolutely genetically possible. For example, horses that are genetically non-albino pure white (the horses we see that we consider "white" are not truly, genetically white in coloration but are a very, very light cream or other variation) end up dying shortly after birth IF they even make it full term due to the genes for a true white coloration being linking to some physical deformities that kill the foal. Not to be racist but since this is an historic story, the idea of gypsy inbreeding may have been a factor and having a child with a bunch of rare/unlikely genetic traits all put together could be a hint at that. Inbreeding increases the chance of recessive traits showing up, including conditions like Quasimodo's deformities.
I thought it was made canon that the gypsy mother found Quazzy, (Quazie, Quasy?), and took him in as her son.
Oh thanks :)
So it was never said... MY WHOLE CHILDHOOD IS A LIE! I need to re-watch it.
His name is Quasimodo. The shortname is Quasi. 🙈
Also...He could be their son.
When my father was a cop. A black couple asked him to make missing
person's report, for their son.. And their son was white as slice bread
and had red hair. HE WAS THEIR SON BY BIRTH! So with logic..their son (Quizy)
could be white. I have seen mix kids, with one white parent/black parent. And is fully white!
But has black features. Or Black with fully white features. And
sometimes the children are just fully black or fully white..even if
their parents are two different skin tones/races.
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Yeah, it's possible, but if that's the case then father still said "Shut it up" to his wife when he was talking about his own son. I think it's likely that A) Quasimodo was found in the woods and is treated poorly by his "father" because of how he looks, or B) Quasi's real mother was the gypsy woman, but her husband was not the father, and Quasi is hated by his "father" because he was born through adultery.
Alot of men back in these time were "screw the kids, they need be seen not heard" He could have been a jack ass of a father, if the story ended differently..
the thing is the probability for the white skin and red hair is so low that its almost not possible red hair is one of the most recessive traits and the further back the trait came into the gene pool it becomes even rare if you notice majority of gypsy keep to themselves ie court of miracles they hide stay away from persecution because it wasn't just notre dame that was against them almost the enitirety of Europe because they were believed to be pagans and thieves which at the time meant almost everyone hates you and if they don't they tolerate you so that means it wasn't recently that red hair came to their gene pool and gypsys became disliked since they immigrated to Europe from india in roughly 1000 a.d. so basically every one ever hated them and told there children to as well in a time when listened to you parents and are normally married of at young age in other words I'm sorry but it literally almost impossible what is very likely is that he was abandoned and the gypsy woman took pity on him because he was discarded and abandoned because of reasons he cant control like gypsies
There is no such thing as "black features" just sayin...
+Haby2611
Wow, yes there is. Take a forensics class or watch a cop show. Our skulls are shaped differently depending on our race. Black people's eye sockets tend to be squarer, have wider foreheads, and the nasal passage is bigger. On the surface that translates to the wider noses and more subtle curves near the brow. And everyone is a little different, but that doesn't change the fact that if the world turned to one color, you could still identify someone's race by their features.
The only reason people hate the gargoyles is because Nostalgia Critic says he hates them. I'm serious. I see positive feedback towards them everywhere but CZcams. Because god forbid it's the worst thing ever to have an opinion of your own. I thought they were fine. My favorite is Lavern. I love how she was a mother figure towards Quasimodo. Without them. This movie would have been a dark, depressing mess. I see them working like the toys from toy story. They saw that he needed companionship so they came alive only for him. I mean, mice can't talk so they should be a figment of Cinderella's imagination but I don't see anyone complaining about that....
Tristen Rodriguez you know that in the 2014 musical also made by Alan merkin (sorry if I spell wrong) they removed them and put saints instead. Plus it very dark
because everyone in the world watches Nostalgia Critic
buciallstar I like NC I just can't stand most of his fan base.
I can safely attest to the fact that I have no idea who Nostalgia Critic is. Film Theory and Cinema Sins are the only two channels I really look at regularly, and I don't even watch their videos if I know I'm going to talk about the same subject. So, nope, I disliked the gargoyles way back in 1996, because they tried to flip an adult themed movie into something for 5 year olds. I usually don't care for the comic relief characters, but at least most of the time Disney uses cute animals so they're more tolerable and less trying to spit snot and bang goats. Hugo in particular was disgusting, but Victor and Laverne were poorly developed and didn't add to anything either. They were just a mother figure, maturity, and poor social skill voices in Quasimodo's head.
NC's cool and welcome to his own opinion, but I like them :-) Quasi needed that balance desperately, or he really would have gone crazy. If his only personal contact had been Frollo... yikes. The Archdeacon was obviously aware of him, but we never see any interaction between the two after he saved baby Quasi. Which I rather thought was a pity, but there it is.
Laverne is my favorite gargoyle too :-D She's awesome. Third favorite in the whole movie, after Quasi himself and Esmeralda.
Just fyi, it's not lava, It's molten iron to repair broken bells, but this is a really interesting take on my all-time favorite Disney movie. Definitely worth a long think about.
That's actually a fair observation! But, I mean, if I saw it fallen towards me, I'd still be screaming "lava!" lol
I think according to the book it was molten lead for repairing the roof.
I totally AGREE with this theory! I believe those weren't Quasimodo's parents and he was adopted by them!
Yemi Babatunde. I agree too but I also have a 2nd theory which should be considered. What if she was a STEPMOTHER? My Theory goes that the Gypsy Dad was married TWICE! Wife #1 was a pale - skinned Redhead who left her abusive home & joined the Gypsies where she meets & marries her husband. She dies in childbirth & some years later the dad remarries, why wife #2 would care about her stepson as if he were her own? Well, perhaps she had a child herself at 1 point & it died, but her maternal instinct refused to die. The Gypsies in this tale show an Extremely Strong Family Bond, even towards distant relatives.
if anyone read the book frollos brother (jehan) is married to a gypsy(florika) and because of his gypsy wife he is exiled out of notre dame and his wife then becomes pregnant with quasi. she dies of diseases and jehan give frollo quasi. he is white because of jehan.90% of these therories are wrong!
@@dylanz7779 I think Esmeralda and Phoebus are his real parents
@@sofiastern8218 WHAT did you just say !
so basically he was abandoned then adopted twice?
And sequel happened....
Hunchback II: The Quest for More Money was just a cheap production to sell VHS tapes. There's no consistency or quality to the original story. But, who's to say, maybe the entire thing was part of his death dream since time works differently in that state of mind.
The Fangirl yeah they used to show movie series of it and when i was a kid i was so confused because everything was different and they died
While it may be a money grab I actually have a theory based off your own. Say we were in the disney world and it was all part of the story this may make more sense:
While Quasimodo could have been stabbed in the back and dreamed all of it he may have been in a fit of insanity while doing so and actually thrown his master off the cliff after doing what Simba did to Scar and force him to reveal Esméralda wasn't a witch which would have sparked outrage and the fact he could have forced his master to reveal his true nature, the knife sticking out of his back, which again cause further outrage and then thrown Frollo to his death before doing as you said and curled up with what he believed to be Esméralda's corpse, however Phoebus could have found the woman's pulse showing while she was slowly dying due to smoke inhalation and suffering sever burns around her legs she was still alive, he could also save Quasimodo due to the fact the knife was still in the wound, after all we see Phoebus saved after being stabbed with an arrow so our favourite hunchback could have survived and lived to tell his tale which is why people love him and finally set aside their differences and commend their bravery. Esméralda and Phoebus end up having Zephyr and so we go onto the second movie.
Also it cant be apart of his death dream as we see faces we never seen before and as he was locked in his tower all his life he would have never seen them before, we don't even see the characters among his wooden toys that he made, the mind also cannot just make up a face
LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT THAT....
Seriously I actually like the gargoyles you people need to realize that they are there for the kids since it's such a dark movie
DTB 1217 ikr
DTB 1217 agreed too and to me the idea they're not real is just too upsetting as it shows he really is alone, I also think they're magic and become stone when Frollo comes cos they don't want anyone to know.
DTB 1217 I agree. If people dislike the childishness, they should watch the real film.
I hated the gargoyles as a child though XD
Rebecca Scholtes I'm rebecca
As for why the partner of Quasi's mother said "Shut it up", maybe he was talking to baby Quasi himself, telling him to "Shut it up, will you, son?"
Quasimodo is a gypsy but he is Frollo's nephew.
Frollo's real Nam is Claude Frollo he had a brother who fell in love with a Gypsy who got sick with the pocks Quasimodo was deformed because of the pocks that claimed his parents. Frollo took the child in and kept him inside the bell tower.
Someone read the books lol
@@KasuraKumagi24 That is just a story line of the musical!
That was never confirmed in this animated take on the movie.
It's in the original Gothic French book of the same name, even without that part the story remains the same its a story about actions making someone a monster not the way they look.
Honey about the Melanin thing, Take it from me it is very possible for dark melanin filled people to make a lighter child. My mother had my sister's and that's what happen 2 of my sister's are the color of Zendaya while the rest are the shade of Kelly Rowland.
Kookie Monster I believe you, don't worry but I do have a question. Did one of your parents happen to have lighter colored ancestors? I think, though I'm not 100% sure, that can also cause lighter children. I could be wrong
Kookie Monster
I'm lighter skin than my parents.
Kookie Monster both your parents have Dark skin? If so perhaps your grandparents had light skin. Sometimes genetics jumps a generation.
And don't forget grandparents' genes can skip a generation.
Kookie Monster yes, it's perfectly possible and I even know dark people who had a natural red haired son. But it's very uncommon to happen. And considering the fact they were all Gypsies (probably the whole family have dark skin... So yes... Quasimodos appearance is reeeeeally improbable. But it's a Disney movie)
mmmnnn
my best friend growing up was half jamacan on his moms side, his dad was super white, his mom was super dark.. he was light skin tone.. almost the same as mine.. with two white parents.
he had naturally curly hair and never got sunburn..
was he adopted? wtf?
montork
It happens. Look up the movie called Skin.
I have traits my parents don't have.
No. I actually know a lot of people who are mixed but white af, the only thing they got from their darker-skin parents was the hair. So no, you can't say in a sure way that your friend was adopted.
If you read the book by Victor Hugo, you'll understand that Quasimodo has gypsy parents, and his Disney persona as a red head with a pale complexion makes no sense. Esmeralda was actually born of French descent and when she was a baby she was kidnapped and the kidnappers exchanged her for Quasimodo. Esmeralda was most likely to have a pale complexion, while Quasimodo was not. So, I got that you're going by the Disney movie, but also understand the actual novel and the factual race of each character.
But I saw a cover on the book Hunchback of Notre Dame and Quasi had red hair and pale skin.
In the novel, Quasimodo also has red hair. Lon Chaney and the 1982 Anthony Hopkins TV movie have red hair also.
Not all gypsy are brown skinned, many are white skinned also
in the musical, Frollo’s brother Jehan meets a gypsy girl named Florika. they have a baby (Quasimodo) they both die and Frollo takes the child in.
3:16 Well, in the sequel, Phoebus and Esmeralda have a son, Zephyr, who is a miniature version of Phoebus. Also, there were a coupe of redheaded gypsies during the song, "The Court of Miracles." They were wearing the skull caps. I think Disney was probably re-using the same character design since there are a few that look practically the same.
Well the Court of Miracles wasn't just open to gypsies but also to any folks looking to go underground and escape Frollo's iron rule. Gypsies just so happen to make up a large part of this secret society.
I have a theory that might explain who quasi's parents are and why he is light skinned.
In the musical, Frollo had a brother. One night, his brother brings a gypsy girl to his room for a birthday surprise. Frollo is disgusted and turns them in to the archdeacon who kicks them out. Frollo tries to apologize, but his brother disowns him and he runs off with the gypsy girl to a life of pleasure.
Let's imagine for a minute the gypsy girl is quasi's mother from the film.
She stays with Frollo's brother, who is white for a few years and eventually gets pregnant with his child. But after experiencing one of his drunken mishaps (he's an alcoholic) that turns violent, she fears that he might hurt her and their unborn child in a drunken rage and leaves him to start a new life for her and her baby.
During that time she meets and falls in love a young gypsy man A.K.A the guy we see her with at the beginning of the movie and they get married. This fits in perfectly with the timeline of the film.
Quasimodo is born and because he's a baby with deformities; specifically a hunched back, the poor thing is probably experiencing pain in his back. He needs medical treatment. That is what I think was the reason they snuck into Paris: so she can get help for her baby and they can stay in the court of miracles in the meantime.
But things don't go as planned. They get caught, her husband is torn away from her and they threaten to take her baby. She runs, desperately trying to escape, fearing for the lives of her and her child.
She fights to protect her baby to the very last second where she is killed by frollo.
But hey, it's just a theory.
Great theory!
My version is that his dad was Celtic as they hung around France at that time. I was thinking the two met and fell in love but he sent his Roma love away due to war and that's how she and baby Quazimoto ended up in Paris.
Actully the musical explains this a bit.In the opening number of the show we learn that his father was Frollos brother had a child with a gypsy.
in german she says something like " Shut up little one"
Growing up i always thought that Quasi was the biological child of Frolo not just he's "adopted" son. Now i understand that there aren't much evidence on that but it still sticks with me for some reason. Amazing video as usual dear keep up the good work.
Eleni Storm in one version of the play frollo is actually quasi's uncle.
Eleni Storm actually he's judge Claude frollo nephew. in the book and musical frollo has a brother (not mentioned in the movie) who he loved that was more wild and handsome. this brother hated the trapped cathedral and ended up running away with a Gypsy woman he fell in love with. after several years frollo got a letter and went to see his brother to find him dying of French pox. his brother said Quasimodos mother died the year prior and begged frollo to take care of the child because he was dying. that is why Quasimodo looks like that
Squiggle Squash and in the books aswell
In the original story Quasi was Deaf as well as deformed. He was the Bell Ringer of the Cathedral remember? Constant exposure to loud noise from the bells would have damaged his hearing. Why Disney left that out of the story i'll probably never know.
Quinzel fx youre close! jehan (frollos brother) is the father of quasimodo as it is stated in the victor hugo novel. his mother is florika a gypsy
My theory is that Quasimodo's mother was kidnapped by Frollo and is impregnated By him she gives birth in the church of Notre Dame she escapes goes back to her home where her husband is but she realizes that there are people in Notre Dame her people that need to be rescued so her and her husband and her gypsies sent out a voyage to rescue her people and the reason why I think Quasimoto is the biological son of Frolo because if you watch in the movie he's obsessed with the gypsy woman known as Esmeralda saying be mine or be dead and I believe or have another theory that Esmeralda is in fact the younger sister of the gypsy woman who happens to be Quasimodo's mother Esmeralda is in fact the aunt of Quasimodo
They're not called "gypsies". That's a derogatory term for the Romani people.
Romani. Not "gypsy."
A quote from Oscar Wilde's Tale The Birthday of the Infanta (that's Spanish for Princess, not a misspelling) refers to the Gypsies as 'a Troop of Handsome Egyptians'. The story goes that an extremely lavish party was thrown for the Infanta on her birthday where several groups performed in the City Square including a troop of Gypsies performing a traditional dance of theirs. I reckon that the similarities between the 2 words may suggest that there may be a connection too.
Grace Nern The book refers to them as gypsies. Keep in mind that the book AND the movie take place in the 15th century.
Gypsy is more of "old-time" term, than a slur.
Grace Nern Gypsies?
Maybe the guy that said "Shut it up will you" referring to Quasimodo was his mothers brother making him Quasimodo's uncle. Quasimodo's dad most likely died and Quasimodo's uncle might have promised to take care of him and his mother.
I have a Annie theory!! what if Miss Hannigan was Annie's mother. and the reason miss Hannigan hates Annie so much is because she accidentally got pregnant with Annie and before miss Hannigan become a alcoholic she wrote Annie a note about fake parents and gave her a broken locket. miss Hannigan probably forgot Annie was really her daughter.
Coco Meador I agree I remember thinking that and finding it was a widely accepted theory
Coco Meador. Actually I read the book. Let me confirm that Miss Hannigan is BY NO MEANS RELATED TO ANNIE OR ANY OF THE ORPHANS LEFT IN HER CARE. There is a part of the novel where Mr. Warbucks (who adopts Annie) with President Roosevelts help obtains information about Annie's birth parents. Annie is told that they fell victim to a very severe outbreak of Influenza, a description from a recovered photo reveals Annie's Dad was a Redhead & her mum was a blonde. She was left at the orphanage when the parents realised they had caught the disease (they had no living relatives) & had planned on fetching her back when they recovered, sadly they never did. The novel has a different ending to the movie too. Miss Hannigan is arrested for being an accomplice to her brother Rooster & his girlfriend Lily St. Regis in an attempt to kidnap & murder Annie.
I don't want to sound mean but idk how to help it (autisitic)
gypsy is a slur to refer to the Romani people. which come from india. they were called gypsies because it was originally assumed they came from Egypt. but like how could you make this video and not bother knowing what Romani *are*. also mixed race children aren't always between parent skin tones. you can have a very dark black twin with a very white blonde twin.
if you need help with research I am actually looking for a job.
but a final note I do identify as a changeling lol.
I 100% agree! (just came across this now) I come from a bi-racial background, my mother is french while my father is an Indian who comes from Romani decent. I have all of my fathers features, from golden skin to raven black hair and in which have no resemblance to my mother. Kinda wish people referred to Esmerelda and her people as Romani, Indias representation within the media is so underrated, might as well have the correct term used.
It could also be that the ending is heaven. If he died and went to heaven it would make sense for his idea of eternal paradise to be a place where he is considered a hero and is loved by all. Esmeralda being with Phoebus in heaven rather than Quasimodo also makes sense because despite Quasimodo being in love with her he knows she would only be truly happy with Phoebus and therefore be happy for all eternity.
The hunchback has Neurofibromatosis (look it up) that condition can sometimes cause pale skin due to tumours on certain areas
In the play, Frollo had a brother, Jehan, who had Quasimodo with a gypsy named Florika. The reason he's deformed is because Florika got small pox while pregnant, and the disease spread to Jehan, who came back to Frollo after years of not seeing him. Jehan's dying wish is for Frollo to take care of Quasimodo.
My little pet theory for the Disney version is that Quazi is a relative of Hercules. After all, he's the only other human in the animated Disney universe who seems to have greater than human strength than Hercules. Add to that that the Gypsies seem to have originated in India in the real world, and thus there being a chance that either his mother, or just one of his ancestors might have passed through Greece on their way to France over the coarse of how may years. Idk, I think it's a bit of a fun theory.
I don't think he is a descendant of Hercules. As explained in the books he got his super strength from years of ringing the bells. If anyone is a dead ringer for being Herc's descendant it will be Prince Adam or Beast as he looks almost exactly like him as a human.
I just thought that at the beginning the woman really was Quasi’s mother while the father was someone else and the supposed husband came into the picture later.
For some reason I kinda felt that the mother could have been raped. I felt that the men with her could have been her relatives. Possibly her brothers.
not his mother cuz of his color? tell that to the black lady who gave birth to white twin babies. yeah and some kids do end up with different hair color then there parents. he could of had a mix grandparent then pass on to him.
I definitely agree with you! She went on to talk about science but totally forgot about the recessive genes that we have. I come from a mixed ethnic family and I am only slight darker than my mother and her father, and her hair is light brown and my dad's is black, but mine is the same color as my grandfather's who's hair is falls between dark brown and off black.
well quasi has a strange mutation, seeing as he has a hunched back ad a deformed face, perhaps his white skin is a product of his muatation
Let's not forget that in the book he is actually mixed, that would make a lot of sense when coming from mixed decent to be lighter skinned than your parents.
Maybe the skin color here is more related to your education than to your decent, after all, Esmeralda's French in the original story but she still has dark-skin in the Disney. So maybe:
-Disney did that not to be accused of white-washing
-Disney did that not to create a confusion
-The skin color is related to education (which doesn't make a scientific sense but come on, if art had to make sense, life would be boring)
In the musical, it's shown that Quasimodo's parents are Jehan (Frollo's brother) and a gypsy he fell in love with, called Florika. Trust me, I was in the musical as a gargoyle- and by the way, the gargoyles are MUCH better in the musical
I always felt so bad for Quasimodo when he realized Esmeralda chose Phoebus.
Him ripping the heart card in two and turning away with tearfilled eyes was the most heartbreaking part in this movie for me.
I thought he was really cute.
Soul-Cute
He's cute both on the inside and outside.
I have been saying most of this for AGES! But I will say, that the "Shut it up, will you?!" line would have been common back then, regardless of if it was your kid or not. Deformity was seen as a curse or something along those lines, and even if people knew it was just a malformation, those kinds of things were treated with a death sentence for the baby. Even if Quasi WAS their kid, I can imagine his "father" still using "it" instead of "him". But everything else you said in the first half of this theory is perfect! XDD Granted, I'm biased, because that has been a theory of mine since I had biology class in high school...which was about 12-13 years ago.
He’s just Jehan’s son, I honestly think his “father” is either her brother or a later marriage because Jehan died and this woman is Florika and she somehow outlived Jehan (in the film canon).
I have a friend who's mixed-race. But when people see her with her dad, who's black, they get confused, because she has the same skin-tone as her mom. She's also got dirty-blond hair, (again) like her mom. It's all about how the genes get bounced around, as a baby develops. I have a feeling the same thing happened with Quasimodo. In fact, I even wrote a fan-fiction about this, filling in the genetic blanks. In the story, his father is a red-haired, fair-skinned Frenchman, and the man we see in the boat at the movie's beginning is actually his uncle (his mom's brother). Maybe, I just like the cutesier side of Disney too much, but I do prefer this idea more than the changeling one from the book.
Great! But Isn't french men dark skinned🤔
A side from using "Gypsy" for Romani people. It actually refers to vagabonds or entertainers. (Which could be anyone, from. anywhere, of any color, ethnic group, race, or disability or deformity.) Although stereotyped in Europe & Roman Empires as The Romani peoples.
Glad I missed the book in school. ☺ I think, 1. It is a children's movie, so they had to make it less depressing. 2. Quasimodo could be the child of Frolo with another woman. Since Frolo was essentially a Cardinal or Bishop, he tried to hide him or get rid of him in the Chanling scenerio, then the romani/gypsies found him. He killed the adopted mother and father, then took him back in & hid him. 3. The ending to me, sounds like he passed, then went to Heaven with his friends. I thought it was implied a couple of years after the movie had been out.
Quasimodo is a very unique person. He was born very special. He doesn't have to look like his gypsy mother. He could've got his red hair and green eyes anyway. It makes him a very special person
T-T that last theory bit just shattered my heart
... I feel like rolling up in my blanket and crying to sleep..
I do believe that that gipsy at the beginning is his mother. They have the same eyes,I don't mean the eye color but the expression in their eyes is almost the same.
also quasimodos parents have brown eyes and he has green eyes
Yeah my great grandfather was deformed and became a dictator of an island off Ireland in the 15th century
This would mean the sequel never happened which actually makes a lot of sense because the girl at the end is dancing with Quasi and Zephyr and she’s the same age as the first one. Zephyr is 10 so either her parents had two daughters who look exactly alike or there’s some shenanigans going on because this child should be an adult!
I have such a love/hate relationship with this movie. It's so beautiful but the gargoyles are SOOOOO awful. I've hated goofy sidekicks in kids' films since -I- was kid. I knew I was being talked down to and I hated it. I still haven't watched this one since it came out, I hate those damned gargoyles so much.
Same, I actually don’t mind Timon and Puumba, even in the sequel, or even Mushu and Cricket because of how their comedy works. But my God the gargoyles are why I kinda didn’t like this movie. I felt Esmerelda, Phoebus and Clopin already did a great job of carrying the comedy, and it’s confusing why the gargoyles never are alive around Phoebus or Esmerelda, given they’re Quasi’s new friends. Only her goat has seen them alive, and apparently Madeleine in the sequel.
Legit Guy Like You and their overall presence is just so annoying and doesn’t even add anything to the story, doesn’t even explain how they’re alive… Other part I slightly hated was Esmerelda choosing Phoebus over Quasi, poor guy.
ohhhh that last part, the feels, right in the feels
ok ms. fangirl, if he's imagining his happy ending then why did disney make a sequel to the movie. and yes, there is a sequel. not a good sequel, but a sequel.
Simple answer, the crap sequel didn't have the same creative team so they did whatever they wanted. Theory answer, dreams have a wonky sense of time, so if he's dying, he could imagine his life continuing for years or decades.
thank you fangirl. i didn't think the sequel was that bad. the animation was sucky, but i didn't care how bad it was, i was so happy when quasi finally got his happy ending.
p.s. luv you. finally, another girl who sees 👀 this movie as a true masterpiece. thank you! thank you for making a video about this movie. 🎥
This theory would work but your forgetting something. The sequel. Now i know people bash on Disney sequels but like it or not there cannon and cant be glossed over. Quasi is still vary much alive and Esmeralda for that matter. She even has a kid. Yes people hate it and its quality but its still an official continuation and in it everyone is alive and well. Yes its sappy but hey its Disney.
Actually, I've answered this in the comments before in two different ways. Either the sequel is Quasimodo's death dream (like his version of Heaven), OR, you just accept that the sequels are not cannon, as they aren't even made by the same production company that makes the feature films for Disney. Without looking it up, it's like Disney Animation Studios and the straight to film sequels are like Disney Home Video or something like that - they don't even use the same creative teams, and gear their videos towards elementary aged children, which means they write completely differently.
I also have a theory which should be considered. What if the Lady Gypsy at the start of the film was a STEPMOTHER? My Theory goes that the Gypsy Dad was married TWICE! Wife #1 was a pale - skinned Redhead who left her abusive home & joined the Gypsies where she meets & marries her husband. She dies in childbirth & some time later the dad remarries, why wife #2 would care about her stepson as if he were her own? Well, perhaps she had a child herself at 1 point & it died, but her maternal instinct refused to die. The Gypsies in this tale show an Extremely Strong Family Bond, even towards distant relatives.
I agree with your thoughts on Quasi's parents. They share no resemblance to him. More likely they were his brief foster parents--- which could mean his real parents are somewhere else.Ireland, maybe? Judging by his pale skin, red hair, and your challengling analogy.--- but who knows.
Could make for quite a story. An unlikely sequel i a way.
Julia Brand just because he looks nothing like them does not mean thier not related.
Be as it may, it's not impossible.
For all we know, that IS the real mother and that 'Father' is just someone she hooked up with after the real father, who could have been Caucasian, left her (or died.)
Dude not all people that are pale and have red hair are from Ireland
Julia Brand Yes they could very well be his parents. Heard of genetic mutation? Sometimes it just ends wrong, no one can explain it.
My mother is Roma gypsy and she has darker skin and thick jet black hair, and my father is Scottish and has tan olive skin and dark brown hair. But I have fair skin, light brown hair, freckles and green eyes, while my sister has thick wavy dark brown almost black hair, darker skin, and brown eyes. Its possible that the woman shown in the opening scene is actually Quasi's mother.
It has been a few years sense I read the book but I don’t remember there being any mention that Quasimodo was left in place of Esmeralda. But that he was abandoned by his parents and Frollo took pity on him. And Esmeralda was taken because the gypsies thought she was abandoned. Though I could be remembering it wrong
his poor parents
I absolutely loved it
If Quasimodo would have a skin tone that is in between than Melanin is not dominant, if it were he would have the same dark skin as the darker parent. Also despite what this video, and other people, suggest, all humans, except for some albinos, have melanin in their skin, hair, eyes etc. It how much you have, not whether you have it. Also this video goes way beyond anything in the movie. The reason Quasimodo has pink skin and red hair is because that is ho he was portrayed in the book where he indeed is a "Gypsy", in fact he was exchanged for Esmeralda when the gypsies stole her from her mother. The reason the gypsies are all brown is because that is the stereotypical gypsy image, just like their colorful clothes:
I. LOVE. THE GARGOYLES.
The Gargoyles were just fine!
My theory is that Quasi was born to white middle class Parisians (Irish maybe bc of the red hair and pale skin), who left him to the Gypsies simply because he was too morbid-looking and the Gypsies adopted him as their own son
What if Quasimodo is originally of Irish decent. The gypsies travel a lot. They end up in Ireland and see a disfigured baby crying alone in the woods. The woman feels empathy for the child and takes him with her to Paris. Where Quasimodo is adopted by Frollo, learns to speak French, and thinks he's French because obviously he can't remember his Irish ancestry. Before he was found by the gypsies Quasimodo had two ginger irish parents who saw his disfugurement and thought he was a demon, so they left him in the woods. Also the gypsy man saying "Shut IT up will you" could be a product of the times. I mean it is fifteenth century Paris.The gypsies could be Quasimodo's parents or he could have other parents.
I'm pretty sure that Quasimodo was an abandoned child that was found by a Gypsy couple. They raised him out of their kindness out of their heart.
Um... the Milton lava came from melting parts of the bells. He had to know how to do it in the first place so he could repair them.
Don't really have an endgame here, just pointing that out. That is really interesting about finding him in the woods, though!
Based on the evidence you presented, yes, Quasimodo obviously was a child that the gypsies found abandoned and then took in. However, based on the father's reaction to the child and his mother being the only one truly concerned for him, I think the mother was the one who took him in while the rest of the gypsies just went along with it because they too were treated like outcasts.
As for the gargoyles, it's explained in the musical adaptation that they were his imaginary friends that he created so he would have friends to talk to (like you I don't consider that monstrosity of a sequel canon.)
The first one was better than the second.
I was born with reddish blonde hair and super light brown eyes. Both of my parents have dark hair and dark skin. In fact all of my brothers were born the same except for me. I have a mixed ancestry to the point where at the time of my birth, no known living ancestor had been looking like I did. So it's entirely possible that Quasi's parents were the two dark folks in the film who had dark skin, dark hair and dark eyes.
“Shut it up will you”? is not the only words said by the one man. He also said “Judge Claude Frollo”! when Frollo shows up.
at 2:45 on the right, there is a person who seems to have the same eyes as Quasimodo and fair skin, could that possibly be his biological parent? they were with the gypsy group
I heard a rumors, that Disney wanted to make Esme and Quizy siblings. With Esme being 1 and some months older then Quizy (as well as rumors say Hugo hinted this in his own book too)but Disney changed that subplot. And Esme was already in Paris (I know potholes, why Disney didn't do it) as another family member sunk her in a few months prior. And said Gypsy woman was pregnant with Quizy and could not travel, so little Esme was send away with another family member (or close friend)to Paris. There is also rumor they are really Half siblings and Coplin is Esme's father. That Esme was a " love child" after quick fling her mother (aka Quiz) with had with Coplin.
In the Hugo novel Esmerelda/Agnes was kidnapped by the Gypsies and they left Quasi in her place, her mother named Paquette fled to Paris and left Quasi in the Notre Dome.
In the novel, Quasi was the son of gypsies who stole Esmerelda, who wasn’t a gypsy, and left him to her parents. It’s something about Gypsies believed maybe he was cursed because he was a changling, a fairy child that is born to humans, normally because they’re deformed or are rejects. So unfortunately in the book Quasi’s biological parents are cruel because they got rid of him.
also the hunchback would need blond hair to be albino and very light eyes so its unlikely for him to be albino
If the happy ending was just his imagination, wouldn't he have ended up with Esmerelda?
No, because 1. he has self-loathing, and 2. he knows Esmerelda loves Phoebes, and Quasimodo is too nice to split them up for his benefit, even in his mind.
Not necessarily. My grandfather on my father's side is a dark skinned Italian, however my grandmother has European ancestry which played out in my father's genetics. Although he has the dark hair, his skin is quite light. The same with me. Most of the family on my mother's side has dark skin tones, which could be attributed to either tans or the fact that that side has a lot of Native American blood in their ancestry, but there's also Irish and other European blood intermixed. Because of this, I have dark auburn hair but my skin is quite light or usually is. It doesn't help that I spend most of my time in doors, which makes me even lighter.
wow, if the end was really just a dream of a dying man, then it is even more sad that he couldn't even imagine being with Esmeralda
Actually in the stage musical esmerelda stays dead and the gargoyles are truly figments of his imagination. Also with quasimodo being pretty much only able to hear the bells the musical takes a lot more from the books since it can get away with a lot more than movies.
I'm guessing this is not a stage play by Disney then?
Only one of my grandparents had pale white skin, the other 3 had deep brown skin tones and yet both my parents were the only light/pale skinned out of their siblings. And now 2 of my siblings are brown while us other 2 are light/European looking.
It's not uncommon for genetic traits to skip generations.
FYI: Skin tone doesn't quite work that way. My niece is lighter than both her parents. She got her skin tone from her grandmother.
I agree with your theory but I would like to clarify something. Skin color is a bit more complicated and comes from multiple alleles; it is possible to have a light child despite being dark. Since most of his traits are recessive, they could be his parents though it's unlikely to get that many recessive traits.
Yes, but, the movie heavily implies that the gypsies were not reproducing with other populations, as they all looked the same. So, to make Quasimodo so different in an animated film means there was more to it than recessive genes. If it were, the court of miracles would have had at least a little diversity shown.
Ok, here's the thing: Quasimodo is a hunchback. He has an altered genetic code. Red hair and a hunched back are genetic mutations. He's not albino either, pale skin is a thing that happens with the red hair mutation. So it makes sense that he's a Romani child in the Disney.
Both of my parents are tanned and I’m very pale. They’re brunette and my hair is light brown, (blond when I was younger) Because both of my grand fathers were blonds, so it possible for Quasimodo to be light skinned
I think Zephyr may have been adopted as well. He just doesn't look anything like his mother. We're supposed to believe he's their kid just on blond hair and green eyes? My theory is he was a foundling left on the church's doorstep (Often done with illegitimate children at the time) and Quasi wanted to raise him, but Esmeralda and Phoebus convinced him the child was better off with two parents. They did, however, allow Quasi to be the godfather. (IDK if the Church allowed illegitimate children to be baptized at the time, but they could've fibbed and said Zephyr was theirs.)
Zephyr is literally the child version of Phoebus lol. I don’t look anything like my parents, but a lot of my relatives on my dad’s side says I look exactly like his mom (grandma) when she was younger. And my younger sister is nearly identical as my mom. Some genes are more obvious in others. For a while Disney wasn’t too comfortable with making main characters parents because they’d have children and apparently Disney thought it was disgusting or inaccurate for children learning about how babies are actually born.
Also I actually have a lot of dominant genes while both my sisters got some recessives. Like I’m the only brown eyes in a family of green, which is a very rare eye color.
Problem with the fever dream ending theory is that for Quasi, it would have not been Esmerelda going for Phoebus, she would have gone for Quasimodo instead. It would have been Quasi's 'happily ever after'.
Not if he has bad self esteem. Plus he knew Esmeralda like Phoebus, and he’d want her to be happy. He’s too nice of a guy, even in his dying dream!
When I was a kid I couldn't stand this movie. It was too heartbreaking ,but as an adult I admire it's artistry in visuals, storytelling and music. So gothic and dark and heartbreaking. I love this theory and now the movie seems even darker which I actually love.
Thanks for making me love a movie even more
Someone here said something about the Romanis having strict codes based on incest and such. They will do extensive research to make sure they aren’t related in any way. And if a child is born with any deformities, even the slightest ones, they will be abandoned in the city or in some cases, killed. This makes sense with what happens in the book. In the book, Quasimodo’s parents actually don’t die. They abandoned him because of his physical deformities. And, get this, they actually take Esmeralda in as their child instead. Which makes them adoptive siblings.
Do you have any thoeries on Disney's The fox and the hound?
the musical says that quasimodo is frollo's brothers child that he had with a gypsy
until 4:30 I was afraid you would say they Stole him.
since a lot of ppl think that gypsies Stole children....they didnt btw
Interesting points that I never thought of. I liked this video.
I mean it was common to delay ones parental love for ones child in those days I mean considering the high infant mortality (double so for deformed children) it would makes sense his father would call him it until he had lived long enough where his chance of survival were greatly increased as too not become too attached.
This is funny theory because even in his fantasy he didn't get the girl. At least he's realistic (or his freedom matter more than a love interest)
My husband is native American and Irish, but he favors the native American in appearance like his mother. He has dark hair and olive skin with brown eyes. While I have very fair skin and black hair with green eyes. When you talked about how a child would be between the skin tones of their parents I had to disagree. So far we only have one child, but our son is as pale if not more so then me. He has white skin, blonde hair, and blue eyes. Since neither of us have those colors besides my skin a lot of people look at our parents. Both sets of parents have dark hair, my mother having hazel eyes, my dad having blue, his dad having green and his mom having brown. But if you look at my mom's siblings and her biological father? Red Hair, blonde hair, blue eyes. Just because Quasimodo's mother was dark skinned with dark hair doesn't mean she couldn't have a light skinned child with red hair.
if anyone read the book frollos brother (jehan) is married to a gypsy(florika) and because of his gypsy wife he is exiled out of notre dame and his wife then becomes pregnant with quasi. she dies of diseases and jehan give frollo quasi. he is white because of jehan.
It's only in the musical
That theory you put for the ending hit deep. Why did you have to say that? Now I feel even more sorry for Quasi!
But there is no absolute proof that the gypsy man was the mothers husband or Quasimodo's father. The gypsy man could have been Quasi's uncle or even if he was Quasimodo's mother's husband it is still possible for her to have been with someone previously. I think it could be very possible for the mother to have been with a man who had red hair and light skin and something happen to that man ( like I could totally see him leaving her after seeing their baby) and her ask her family for help and only one person offer to help. That gypsy man could have taken sympathy on her and decided to help and maybe even have feelings grow for her. It is also possible for her to have those genes further down her line. My father and mother have brown eyes and tan skin, but I came out with green eyes and white skin because of my grandfathers genes.
if you read the book hugo wrote its not the melitonin he had scoliocis an lots of other dreformities an the mother back in those days if their babies were ugly it was deemed a curse an dump them in the forest well ect
The Hunchback of Notre Dame is Disney's darkest, most gritty and most adult film that they've ever released. It's such as underrated masterpiece. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💯💯💯👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Personally I’d say Pocahontas was darker, especially considering its the only Disney movie that got a sad ending unfortunately. Plus not to bash Pocahontas (she’s my favorite princess and 3rd favorite film) but her saving John Smith doesn’t mean she was able to completely stop British occupation, considering in the abysmal sequel how many British moved to Jamestown, and King James obviously wanted more, he wasn’t going to stop just because one of his noteworthy soldiers Captain John Smith refused to fight anymore. It’s a similar problem in Spirit, yeah he managed to delay the railroad progress by blowing up a locomotive (which were super expensive at the time) but that doesn’t mean he permanently stopped it, as shown in the noncanon series, the city I believe is supposed to be near where the setting of Spirit was (I think the main horse Spirit is his son) but it never shows Little Creek’s village or anything to show if the natives were forced out or something.
I've heard about a set of twins born from a white and black parent and one child was born black and the other ended up white. So I believe it's possible someone in his family tree was white and got skipped a few generations.