Coaster project | White cement vs Plaster of Paris | Which one is better?
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- čas přidán 18. 04. 2022
- Hi everyone. Today I'm going to compare between white cement and plaster of paris for my coaster project. Can i replace white cement with plaster of paris? Please watch the video.
[UPDATE] - I have tried several test on this plaster and it break even if the correct ratio. I tried to mix with cement and it ain't worked either. At the end I found out that the quality of this plaster is superb low quality (from the review). I have changed to another brand and it worked fine now.
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The plaster is mixed differently with water and the mixture comes out of the mold as smooth as glass. The mixture is made by adding the powder to the water and mixing a little at a time until you get a thin mixture like liquid yogurt. You have to use the mixture immediately, because it hardens completely in 6-8 minutes... and it can already be removed from the mold... Drying completely to a white color takes longer and the object itself is very light...
Thanks for your sharing :)
I found out the issue. Not the technique or ratio. Is the powder. Thanks for your sharing.
2 parts pop 1 part water is the ratio powder into water little at a time till water cannot aborb anymore mix gently to a batter like consistansy then pour into mold it gets warm while curing once cold to touch its cured to take out of mold usaually around 3o mins... its not the pop that was at fault it was your mixing every packet of pop i have seen has these instructions
@@sunnopoth so far I only use the same white cement from the same seller. The ratio for the water is always 1 part. And cement is 2 parts.
@@sunnopoth I got it from my local hardware store in Malaysia.
Great info.I can plan accordingly with next art project
Thank you for showing and explaining.
Summary: POP is fragile, white cement stronger. POP is good for sculptures making, but not good for household items.
Very helpful video. Many thanks for taking the time to share this.
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I encountered THE EXACT same thing with plaster. I was worried why is it so cold lol and breaks easily and now i know its texture. Thanks for it. I have used white cement too. 🙏🏻🖤
Thanks for comparing!! Love your vid indeed
Thank you! ☺️
Thank you for your video. No matter how you mixed it and how long it takes to cure, I appreciate your effort.
Thank you ☺️
Spraying isopropyl alcohol on the top can help pop bubbles, also plaster takes longer to dry which is why it’s so cold to the touch and it will definitely break after just 24hrs. I would say about 3 days is a better base estimate for drying, but also the thicker the object the longer it takes.
Thanks for sharing this. I will try it again 😃
Yes I just brake mine it’s 24 hrs only. Thank you
thanks for pointing out the difference
Thank you for sharing this 😀
Can we give coat of plaster on white cement items just to make more stronger
Thank you for your informative video. Now I know what I need😊
This might be a good solution to make tarazzo chips for to add into cement?
I have some plaster and have always wondered whether it can be used or not, glad that I know it won't work before I tried it haha
Thanks for your information video
Which white cement u r using...I've used rock white cement but it takes tooo much time to dry
I do not know in Europe or in America what kind of plaster they sell. But, in Kazakhstan we use "smart plaster". There are already special additives that make gypsum stronger. Nobody uses pure plaster. And gypsum with additives gains strength every day until all the moisture comes out of it. And you can pull it out of the mold after 30-60 minutes.
I believed every countries use the different materials. I wish i could try each of them. Thanks for sharing :)
It looked to me like your plaster was to thick. My plaster dries hard in 24 hours, but gets much more solid as it cures longer. It gets very hard and sounds like glass when it's tapped. Perhaps make another and then see if it breaks after a week or two of really curing all the moisture out. Hope it works better for you. Yes, they will still be like glass. I used a hammer on some little animals that had bubbles. They chipped, but didn't break or shatter.
Thanks for our sharing. I will do a newer version for this comparison soon. Stay tune :)
plaster of paris takes about 8 days to harden i think before that is is very weak but you can demold it carefully and let it dry
Good comparision. As others have pointed out for the Plaster you could make it a lot more fluid. It will still dry hard and be lighter. Good to use a mold release spray even when using silicon molds. Just makes life easier.
Okay thank you so much. I will try to try it again :)
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Thanks for doing this. I was about to buy plaster
Please stay tune. I will do more video on plaster and cement soon :)
While the plaster might be dried enough to demould in as little as half an hour it can take a week or two to dry completely, but it won’t b as hard as cement unless u do something like impregnating it with resin maybe
If you add the powders to the water and let them just soak down until the water will not accept anymore, let it sit and then stir they won't harden so fast. It's the stirring that activates the hardening. You can add glue to the PoP to help it from breaking. Nice comparison.
Thanks for sharing 😃
What kind of glue do you use to make Plaster of Paris stronger? Also are there other ways to make it stronger?
In CZcams research "harden plaster paris" and you will find some ideas. Depends a lot on what you are trying to make. I generally don't use POP for individual molded pieces. Tend toward bakable clays or resin.@@duckguycooks
@@timeenuf4200 thank you so much for the info and the quick answer! 🦆 ❤️
I'm using white cement to make candle jars right now. I wanted to make some small statues with POP.
Since you know your stuff, do you know anything about "cold porcelain casting"?
I made a few jars with porcelain powder to try the material but I can't seem to find any information.
giggled when you said "know your stuff" - I'm more of a CZcams addict and everything sounds fun to try so I look up a bunch of stuff. I know there are a lot of CZcams videos on making porcelain clay and working with it but didn't see anything on "casting" it. I've used store bought porcelain clay in regular silicon molds with success. Comes out super smooth. Great for statues and such. Good luck!@@duckguycooks
How to you keep your camera still? Would like to know your camera setting :)
I’m using iPhone XR for this video only. No special setting. But I’m using a handphone stand for this 😄
BBC...which would you recommend to do flower pots, jars, etc? TIA
For indoor flower pot you can go for plaster. But for outdoor I would recommend cement. You can use the grey cement too. But it's more on own preference. For me personally i prefer cement because it is more durable and easier to mix with.
Excellently demonstrated. Can I use any acrylic paint with white cement? Please kindly reply.
I have made a video on this. What Colour Work The Best for White Cement ( Acrylic vs Mica Power vs Alcohol Ink)
czcams.com/video/eGBzEbpgiy8/video.html
i mix german white glue into the mixture of plaster and water, works really great, makes it stronger and thick and easy to work with
Ya I heard some people sharing this method too on cement. But there is issue with this plaster. Thanks for the sharing :)
Thanks.
The fail for the Plaster of Paris was not the material...it was your technique. The mixing ratio looked incorrect. The handle cracked at the same point where you added more water to the mixture. Of course that spot was weaker and broke! Also, Plaster of Paris takes longer to cure.
This answered exactly what i was looking for, thank you; btw does the thickness matter of the cement mixture? Cuz i saw this video and the consistency was so thin that when the girl was tapping to get the bubbles out it was splashing outside the mold. So does the consistency matter?
So far I tried thick both thick and thin cement. Which I add more and lesser water. Both outcome has no different. Maybe in future I may try out few different ratio. Thanks for the comment :)
hI, i'm not an expert but you have right. the ratio of water and cement you use def. have an impact in the cement final piece. Because if you put more water than the needed the strings of the cement will no be stronger enough. And the cure proccess will turn the piece much more stronger. But water in excess will def ruin your cement piece.
This is not a good test, the plaster wasn't even dry. Also, as stated elswhere, the more water you add to cement, the weaker it is.
Perfect
Thank you ☺️
Which one is best to use to make my candle jars?
I saw a lot of people using grey cement. White cement is a good option too.
Try using 1 part water (first) then 3 parts plaster of paris. You always add plaster to water and not the other way round. If you do this, you'll have the same consistency as you had with the cement! Also, your tests failed because you used way too much plaster in the first place. I can't understand why you added all that colour only to mix it into an ugly muddy colour! Next time try giving it 2 or 3 light stirs and you'll get a marble effect
Thank you so much for the sharing ❤️
How to solve problem of making bubbles in the solution during makkng it
Just tap it out as much as possible. For alternative you can spray some isopropyl alcohol on those in the surface.
Nice video but that’s not the way you work with plaster.
What ratio of water or cement do you use for cement .. I have tried but they didnt dry
Hi, for my cement I’m using (Water) 1:2 (cement)
Will it break whn drop for the white cement coaster?
Hi, so far I have never drop my coaster. But I think it very depending on how high and how you drop it. Cement had high break resistant but that doesn’t mean it won’t break.
Which material can be like marble after hardened?
Different material. Marble is on rock category. You can try grey cement which is very solid and durable.
Well.. plaster has a more powder than water ratio, and it has a more reduced time limit until it hardens.. idk what went wrong but I’d say maybe too much water
But maould that made with plaster of Paris are good for terracotta . It's so helpful
Although I love videos that compare, this one was very unfair. You didn't read up on the correct mixing ratio for the plaster of paris hence the epic fail. Plaster of paris is such an amazing product to work with if mixed and used correctly. I've never worked with white cement so that part was very interesting.
Hey, I'd like to ask that does one need a sealant on plaster of paris?
Plaster of paris is extremely porous so you would definitely need to add a very good sealant. Even then, you would need to stay away from making anything that would be around water. You could try H seal which is the one I use but i it's very pricey x
@@ResinHut I live in Pakistan so I doubt I'd find that particular sealant here. Could you tell me what to look for in a sealant, certain ingredients or something so I can find one that's available where I live?
And thanks for the elaborated response.
Hi, so you would need to look for a cement or plaster sealant. The H seal I have is actually a cement sealant and it works really well. Good luck x
Plus plaster of Paris can be made by 3c flour and 2c water
You didn't add enough water to the plaster
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Api ya putti yahi h ?
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In fairness to plaster..it is smooth if the mixture is liquidy...nonetheless.... i😊ts like a chalk..easily breakable
Where can I buy the white cement?
You can try to get it from your local hardware store. Or those supplier for renovation use.
5:00 Because you mixed it wrong and you didn’t use enough water.
Hi, thanks for your advise. I will try it again :)
You sound like an expert 🙄 do you know why my cement is fragile and brakes like plaster in this video? ☺️🙏🏼
How much time required for dry the cement
For a hot weather lim Malaysia, it took 12 hours to completely dry. But if raining season, it may took up to 48 hours. It is advisable for you to knock the back to see if the cement is hardened.
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Hi, have you checked if the dried plaster can still dissolve in water?
No, It can’t.
@@BearBearCammy oh that's good. I thought it was like wood putty that can still dissolve after drying.
What if it dissolves? I mean, I HV made a paste out of powder which m not sur is cement or plaster, though u HV showed color difference, but yet m not able to figure it out. Now I don't knw what m going to do with it. Even if I make something, I don't knw if I can put some water init like we do to strengthen it.😣
Hi, it’s very hard to differentiate which powder belongs to which. Even myself I can’t figure out if you give me powder without telling me what is is 😅
It dissolve meaning after it fully hardened or dissolve during it was still paste?
Once it's hard, and then I put it in water, to make it more strong.. Like we do with grey cement. If it's plaster it will dissolve right? And if it's cement it won't.
Where can I buy white cement. I am trying to find it but am having trouble. I have the Plaster of Paris but don't know where to find the white cement. Thanks anyone in advance. I am in Alabama USA.
Hi thank you for your queries. White cement is very easily get from my local store here in Malaysia. I’m not sure about USA. But these material is for construction use. Maybe you can find it at your local hardware store? 😊
@@BearBearCammy Thank you for replying to me. Yes it seems to be less available over here in the hardware stores. It seems as if my only option is going to be Amazon but it is more pricey than I was hoping for. Going to continue to look around for it though. Thanks for your help and great work!!!
I use plaster of Paris and can demold in 45 minutes. My mix does not look like that. 😮. It should be like yoghurt consistency. But you have to work fast (and use a whisk).
I think there's quite a number of plaster of there. I need to test other brand. Thanks for sharing ☺️
You have used low quality of pop . I also used pop which is harder and not breaked . But yes, white cement is too harder than pop but white cement is always spreads while setting and some time it is cracked when you remove from the mold .
hi, what's the brand of the white cement. i want to buy also. Thanks in advance :)
Hi, this cement I bought has no brand.
You may refer to this link to see the packaging.
(Q&A VIDEO) CEMENT Craft All You Need To Know | Why my cement crack? What cement do i use? Brand?
czcams.com/video/qU3MXX9hCOI/video.html
@@BearBearCammy ohh thanks for this, recently i bought a white cement from shopee, but the quality its like the same with your plaster, it breaks and it's powdery. not that hard and strong.
@@angelinepasaporte7339 if you are in Malaysia can just walk in to any local hardware store. I think it’s only one type :)
@@BearBearCammy no, im from the Philippines. Hardwares here usually don't have white cement.
@@angelinepasaporte7339 hmm try look for Portland brand if any.
Where can I buy white cement please?
Any local hardware store in Malaysia.
Where can get them to buy am in Africa
Try to ask from your local hardware store or those supply house renovation.
I crafts channel also shared a video that mixes polyester resin with white cement and color pigment and it was very durable and beautiful.
Thanks for sharing!!
same happened with me but with white cement 😭 they broke
So which is the best ???
White cement
Okay
where to buy white cement?
Your local hardware store
Where can I get white cement ( name and brand) please
I got the white cement easily at any hardware store in my country here Malaysia and there is no brand on it. Just came with a transparent packaging.
@@BearBearCammy thank you🤘✌️🤟👍
The channel is Up Vibe Candle
Thank you so much!
Hi…plaster of paris jual kat mana ye?
Kat Shopee or Lazada ada ya.
Agulo kothay kinte pabo?
Try look for your local hardware store.
Hola me gustó mucho tu vídeo , una sugerencia, qué pongas subtítulos en español por favor porque no tienes tradición y no conozco el idioma inglés, abrazos ❤
Hola, gracias por amar mi video. Deseo que CZcams pueda crear funciones para esto en el futuro :)
Wear gloves and a respirator - especially with white cement. 👍
Yes! Mask is very important!
Yes I right art cement soft
Plaster Paris itu ap si
If plasrer is cold to the touch, it is not dry. It goes through a chemical process producing heat then it sets, but is at its strongest when thoroughly dry, I made clay casting moulds out of it and it is very strong. Keep in mind both have their uses, plaster is easier to carve, but weaker when dry, compared to cement. Cement is stronger, but will also break if subjected to trying to break it especially if thin. Not a good guide this one, does your family own a cement factory! 😂🤣😅Just my opinion.
Thank you for your sharing :D
😂😂 family business,,,vote for cement 😅😂😂😂
I dn know which one is best
White cement. Strong and durable 🙂
@@BearBearCammy thq fr ur reply
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You need to read the directions on POP. It hardened so fast because you didn't make it correctly
POP made with JUST water is not strong enough.
I bought new POP. It’s worked well in my latest video 😉
@@christineanderson4643 what should you mix with it?
Plaster like a chalk.
1 like for cement!!! haha
Where do you buy the white cement?
I got it from my local hardware store. You can try to ask around your local hardware store.
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This is a horrible comparison. Fyi, for anyone watching this video; this is misinformation. The instructions for using PoP was obviously ignored and was mixed completely wrong. PoP (IF mixed correctly) does not brake as easy as it does in this video. Ever have a cast for a broken bone? Yeah, it's the exact same stuff. Always read instructions
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