Lucy Mae GoFundMe - A Linguistic Perspective
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- Lucy sets out the Linguistic Furniture and gives us a behind-the-scenes look at what happened the night Jay Slater disappeared while on holiday in Tenerife.
Systemic Functional Analysis per MAK Halliday
All conclusions are subjective and for educational purposes
Apologies for garbled detour into 我们 and 咱们. I was trying to say that it would be nice to look into the word 'we' to see whom it included.
You have a lovely soothing voice, thank you for this analogy !
@@twiggy2039 thank you. You are welcome
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Yay, you're back! I always look forward to your videos x
@@sarahwilliams4500 thanks for watching!
Always happy to find a new instalment from you, thanks.
@@srsly5570 thank you for watching.
Glad you have covered it Bob just watching now. Thanks for the shout-out.
Hi Patricia, I'm glad you got the message.
Absolutely fascinating!
@@johannahoneyman697 thank you!
Your videos are always great- thank you!
Yes! Thank you for covering this!!
@@LeilaJane my pleasure
Hi, I just found your channel.
I’m fascinated with statement analysis and have followed and learned from people like Peter Hyatt, Deceptive Detective, Lene Cisco and others, so I’m glad that I found your channel.
You have a great way of explaining what you read from a statement. So I’m going to binge-watch the rest of your content soon.
Keep up the good work 🙌🏼😃
You are welcome. Thanks for watching.
@Plingu698, thank you. Since I wrote this, I have seen all of your videos except for a few. Your analysis differs a little from statement analysis.
I love that you often give quotes from books and other cases, as it helps with understanding.
I would love it if you made a video about the differences. I'd like to learn what you do, aside from learning from your videos. Are there any books we can read? Where have you learned your "craft," and what's your background? Also, what do you do for a living?
Hi JC, I also watch Peter Hyatt and Deception Detective, and it's my first time here, as well. I, too, appreciate this slightly different take on statement analysis - up my former alley (enjoyed my uni courses doing such, and tried to apply it in my ESL teaching/ uni-upgrading courses for tertiary students and in-service teachers (back in Asia).
Still in-process of regaining my OWN languages (including my native English/ uni), numeracy & memories, after severe body & brain traumas. (Alas, yes, plural - literal head-first crash at force when thrown/ pitched head-first down a double-decker bus stairwell on my way home from my uni lecturing job, and then further injuries when I was blacking out from being medicated into oblivion once back home, falling & smacking my head on the floor, suffering broken ribs each time and multiple consecutive concussions & numerous skull fractures. Lost... MUCH of my mental and remaining physical abilities. My TWO doctors did "diddly-squat".).
My self-treatment (since none ever offered), has been thousands of hours of listening to brain-healing vids, and deeply researching "conspiracies" (actually, I found, "conspiraTRUTHS") and things of interest on YT, to keep my very battered brain passively active.
Can't stand stinky red herrings, and other deceptions, etc., which this Jay Slater case seems full of - as per the verbal statements given - by almost EVERY "important person" in the case.
And, Hi! PLingu/ Bob, enjoyed your analysis, and really appreciate your charting of the language. Aids my battered brain in comprehending and remembering. Thanks, and Cheers!
@@kgrant3184 you are a member of my own tribe. Much love and best wishes. I really hope you get well soon.
@@kgrant3184lots of sympathy and best wishes for complete recovery 💐
Thank you Bob great analysis. xx
What a pleasant surprise.. Thank you for sharing 😊
Yes!!! I was waiting for this analysis
A photo has surfaced of her with one of the two men, showing she knew him before this incident. Therefore, the part you explained about distancing herself from whatever happened makes sense.
that's interesting. I am always behind the curve! So she met them with Jay, or did she introduce them to him?
@Plingu698 researching a bit more to find out, will come back to reply 👍
@@Plingu698 Supposedly she knew him and then introduced Jay to him, she has had 20 holidays in the last year, mostly to Tenerife.
I have seen that the image of her and that guy was not her, when the photo was taken she was apparently in another country…
@@Plingu698
My understanding is that she knew these men prior to Jay's holiday, however, since Jay's disappearance she has tried to distance herself from the two men, leading the public to believe that she didn't know who Jay left the club with.
Hi Bob, I use hearts or other emoji to end a sentence sometimes instead of a fullstop 😊 A heart is often used to soften the blow when I'm telling someone off 😂
It is interesting that we are returning to pictograms after thousands of years of the phonetic alphabet !
Thank you for deciphering the note. I couldn’t make sense of it. It didn’t tell me who is Jay and who are you, lady, and why do you need this money ? But your reading between the lines and the drug taking hints made sense. It was all a mystery to me
@@Sunset553 that was my first impression at first also
I'm so glad you are covering this case!
So glad I found this channel!
@@Mrrmph me too. you are welcome!
Fascinating and important information 👍
Thanks. Glad you liked it
I love your videos! It amazes me how much one can learn from the language and speech people use.
„In need of a drink“ is very much reported speech, as someone lost in the wild would refer to his empty water bottle or to being very thirsty, imo.
Great to have you back, Bob. Love your videos, thanks for sharing your knowledge!
@@user-ul8ow6xj3u yes, after i uploaded it, i realised that reporting speech allows one to edit it.
This was excellent! Your video just turned up in my feed. I subscribed 🙂
@@Chocolate74able thank you
This is so important to know! Thank you, sir!
@@auntieree you're welcome, auntie!
I watch everyone of your videos and enjoy them all thoroughly. Please don't ever let metrics stop you from sharing your insights and understandings with the world, as it would greatly undermine my stealthy attempts to master this skill myself! 😊
@@BluntlyRolling hey bluntyrolling, i am going to keep rolling !
Glad you are back!! I’ve missed you!! Thank you
hey, Kirsty, lovely to hear from you too.
I’ve really missed your videos! I’m glad you’re analyzing this case 🙏 thank you.
@@AlpineArts you are welcome!
Fascinating breakdown and analysis, that even I can understand, clearly. Thank you for sharing your amazing expertise. I subbed, and will see you for the next one.
@@Arcticnick thank you very much
@@Plingu698 😇
Great to see a new video from you this evening! Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
@@PatsSpaghetti you are welcome. Thanks for commenting
This was an excellent writing for you to cover.
I wouldn't donate either,especially when his mu.s invited out 15 ore friends * family, for a all expenses paid holiday, not even out searching
they will run out of money soon enough at that rate
I seem to have missed a bit somewhere - I can’t work out how Lucy (who left before Jay) knew who he left with or where he went?
@@jgfreer8322 that's right. unless the 1% charge was enough to explain it all.
I think the GoFund me was started a bit after he went missing so she could have got the information from the other friends there before hand and from some of the investigation done by the police… There are also other claims if Snapchat messages he sent to his friends saying he was with them and ok…
What an interesting video. Very informative and enlightening. Language reveals everything.
thank you
I think your analysis holds a lot of weight! Please continue analyze! I love your videos and look out for them!❤
@@shimmerelle thanks
So does the heart there mean she is being flirtatious? lol I am am in my 40’s now with 2 young teen boys and when I see their messages with people they full of emojis, I don’t think the ❤ emoji holds the same weight as what it used to when we actually drew hearts in hand written letters… Now days it’s just a form of caring or good wishes and at times can be flirtatious depending on the context it’s used in.
I really enjoyed this, thank you. At last a clear analysis of facts regarding what happened here
@@marbethnix9811 you are welcome
Having seen Lucys interview, I wouldn’t read too much into her literacy skills or command of the English language.
@@grahamjackson3388 I'll look at that today.
I love to see your vids pop up and I'm so glad you decided on this to analyse, I agree that it was likely a voicemail from Jay that she probably didn't hear until much later, she knows for sure that he was "off his face" on MDMA and her use of "he wasn't aware of his surroundings" sounds wrong, I would have expected her to say "he didn't know where he was", I doubt that after a weekend of being "up" her phone would have woken her at 8am to speak to Jay which reinforces my belief that it was a voicemail, How would she know that his destination when he left her was "remote", she doesn't say, she was virtue signalling by saying "I was out in the middle off the night" I think she sounds more worried about him being found as it may implicate her in whatever it is that she is keeping hidden from us, and the love heart is highly INAPPROPRIATE in circumstances such as these, excellent analysis Bob and it's so good to hear from you again my friend.
@@patriciaburns1033 Hi Patricia- so she has admitted to the substance use? was that in another interview? If the call was a voicemail, the police must be able to know that. i am not sure she is being deceptive about receiving the call at 8.30 now. It just occurred to me that she is able to edit what was said by using reported speech. With direct speech one has to quote exactly what was said.
@@Plingu698 Watch todays vid by True Crime Rocket Science, it's not long it has bullet points from an interview with the air bnb dude about the last that was seen of Jay, I think you may be right about him getting hurt and falling into the sea though
Great job. Take vacations. I won’t delete you.
New subscriber, love your videos 😊
@@cheryl7011 thank you. that is very kind.
You are on the right track
thanks
Bob, great analysis here AND the last video you did just previously on ‘you know who.’
On this video, I got the exact same impression and reached the same conclusions you reached re: The author of this go fund me. I did go a bit farther/further(???) into his needing a drink. I can’t remember my theory, but it was a stretch anyway.
I’m hiding my response to your last video in this comment section to hopefully avoid any PH cult member drama commentary backlash.
Re: the things I don’t agree with from PH, EXACTLY what you said. I could not nail down what he was saying re: passive voice, and now I know why, so thank you. I don’t have your education, so I never would have made it there on my own.
I’m going to listen to your explanations again on past perfect and passive voice to try to get them straight in my mind.
And that stuff about passive voice being different in psychology than it is in grammar… I never understood that either.
The price gauging/excessive cost of courses-that’s ridiculous. I never dove in that far-but now I’m bummed that statement analysis isn’t what i thought it was.
There was another conclusion PH came to re: doors opening and
s-abuse, I’m not sure I’m on board on that concept either.
Why the aggressive cult following on PH? I think it may have something to do with his political leanings. Once I realized where he stands politically, my view of him became more skeptical. He strongly believes Fauci is -how do I say this-a liar who lives to be on TV and in the limelight. That’s what I heard from him. Once he went there, out comes the cult. That’s what I got from some of his comments, maybe others inferred his comments differently. But the vaccines and Fauci-what does that have to do with statement analysis? He didn’t analyze fauci’s statement, so where’s the relevance?
Now, with regard to the Deception Detective, what have you found? He says he’s a lawyer, but I can’t even find his first or last name, so I stopped listening to him.
PH, I was willing to look past his loathing of Dr. Fauci (not that I ❤️ Fauci, but why the aggression re: vaccines? I don’t know) because I thought he had something to offer, but DD-nope. That guy has a beard, a hat, massive black sunglasses, the mic blocking his face with the camera permanently at one angle. From whom is he hiding and why? I can’t find anything to identify him. If he is an attorney, what’s the deal? Is he in witness protection?😂
I object, and I’m out on DD.
I have a question.
Why do some say ‘different to’ and others say ‘different from’?
I have so many grammar questions.
Sorry this was so long!!!
I’m glad you’re back. Hope your cold goes away or went away 😊
Be well.❤
@@teresev1435 hi Teresev, I didn't know PH espoused any political views. I agree though, they don't belong in an analysis. Actually, someone also said today that he injects religious views into his analyses too but I haven't watched enough to confirm or refute that. I do respect the guy to some extent though. He does arrive at a credible outcome; he is just not trained in the usage of linguistic meta-language, which strikes me as a problem if you are selling something called 'psycholinguistics'. I'm surprised you put up with me! At least DD shows you some of his face, which i don't. I have a good face for radio, as they say.
@@Plingu698 I’ll listen to you till the cows come home 😊
Based on what you say and how you teach, I think I know you are who you claim to be.
DD, on the other hand. you let me know what you think 🤔
Maybe you can make a copy of a summary of these available to us via a link.
I think you're right
"Just" - what a strange and confusing word. It has so many different meanings and uses. We seem to just know what it means in context without really thinking about it.😆 We seem to know what it means in context without really just thinking about it. We seem to know just what it means... ... without just really thinking about it. We just seem to... etc etc. When the word "just" is there, as it is so convoluted, reading between the lines is pretty much essential to make any sense out of it. It is often like a call, overt or otherwise to read between said lines. Jus' sayin'. 🧐
@@DubArchaeologist yes, the common little words are the trickiest to decipher!
Been hoping you would cover this. It's all very strange.
Perhaps you've lost subscribers because many people are dumbed down, and it's too intellectual for them (over their heads). Just guessing. I enjoy your videos because I believe much is hidden in peoples' words (purposely).
@@keepitsimple4629 Actually I think it is just a normal attrition rate . Interests can be transitory- I have many of those myself. I need to put out content so that new subscribers outnumber unsubscribes. I see how it works now. Abandon your channel and face extinction!
I noticed another commenter called the content "pretentious rubbish" and it reminds me of the sort of people who seem angered by educated people - the sort of person who says they "went to the university of life".
No I wouldn't contribute either
Dr Mosley
Stopped by and subscribed. I also like likes . I have liked your video . Surely you like my like
He He .
@missq3989 I do like it, in the mental process sense if not in the material ( linguistic joke!) Thank you
So glad you covered this I've been studying this case for 3 weeks! Lucy is a drug mule, I don't think jay knew her for long, she's definitely not telling the whole truth! Two guys that took jay back to the house had been previously convicted of drug dealing,been to prison for 9 years! Lucy knew the 2 men! Jay stole an expensive watch,from someone, to buy more drugs with! Jay is no angel himself, he has been convicted of violence assault with a machete, dealing drugs! I think he's either died up in the mountains or so.eone killed him,for pinching their watch! Michael moseley, that's his name! Welcome back!!❤
hi Gillian, thanks for the background. You know way more than I do! So this expensive watch- do the police have any idea who it was he stole it from? `and how did that person track Mr. Slater to the house in the mountains? Does anyone have a theory?
@@Plingu698 no theory, it's all about drugs, that's all I know
@@gillianlaing1073 yes. that is the element that Lucy leaves out ( for obvious reasons!)
@@gillianlaing1073 just watching 'michelle after dark' she presents evidence that it might be an 'east european man' , that's all
@Plingu698 I probably know more than her, his face is all over social media, other guy is know as " Johnny Vegas!! Lol
A Video at last from Prac Ling! Now, will you do the statement from Jay's mom? Folks were giving her a hard time over her nail polish...But what of his activities did she know before he went to Tenerife? Maybe do a series of videos on ol'45 (mr. Trump)? That would have some increasing interest as the summer progresses (imho). Enjoy the summer, sir!
I'll look for a statement from Jay's mum today. I am a bit behind the curve on this I'm afraid. Better for me to steer clear of American politics though. Saying anything about Trump or Biden would alienate first one half of my subscribers and then the other!
@@Plingu698 Thanks for the feedback, and I totally understand! Maybe pick on some other leader in the world...they're everywhere these days...how to recognize a fascist could be the topic? Glad to have you making videos again.
@@AWanderingEyecheck out Martin Decoder, he did a lot of Statement analyses on various politicians and people like Greta Thunberg or Elizabeth Holmes…
This section of reported speech about Jay's call to say he wasn't aware of his surroundings does not fit Lucy's lexus. She doesn't use that sort of language
@@DreadWaaaghGaming interesting. I realised after uploading that reported speech allows the person reporting to edit what was said.
Well people deep in this disappearance think it’s world news - it really is not ! There is no evidence of foul play there is nothing weird or suspicious - idiot made a mistake thinking he could walk …… smarter people have made similar miscalculations on holiday this year ! Problem is the not so nice background of Jay …… not just a nice popular chap is he? And then you got to ask yourself about how he is being raised by these parents of his ? Missing person always difficult to cope with but ……… no mystery here really. They just cannot accept that the son made a stupid decision but cannot say it happened to a nice person or nice family for that matter and clearly people who know him know that !
@chelloandra that is pretty much what I think too. I do sympathise with his mum though. No matter how badly she may have raised him, you can see her tears are real.
the aprtment was an Air BnB that luct booked for the night
@doctoronishispsychosislab1474 did she book it for them, or was it on a different night. I am tempted to think that she knows those guys much better than she let's on.
The guy Ayub (not sure of spelling) was the one that rented the Air Bnb, From what I’ve seen Lucy, Jay and Brad where staying about 8 mins away from the NRG festival… This bnb was about 45/50 mins from the festival… According to some info this Ayub guy was a convicted criminal, spent 9 years in jail for drug related crimes in UK/Whales and also stayed at the bnb before… He also worked at a legal weed shop in Terenife owned by some rapper he knows…
Mae Law : Law is a common family name in Asia, Malaysia.
interesting. is she mixed race?
One of the 2 guys Jay went with was a felon, served time for drug running
that fits the bill!
i'm putting my money on coke being the drug of choice along with e's dude was clearly gurning in the rave footage
@doctoronishispsychosislab1474 yes I agree. If those two dealers hadn't simply run out, he may have gone back to that house for something special. The cotton wool mouth could have been from smoking weed couldn't it.
@@Plingu698 Loads of stuff gives me cotton mouth weed painkillers phett
It’s seems this could just be a person who is not a good writer.
Thank you, very informative and interesting to listen to your analysis. Never thought about Jay could have left a mailbox message and to emphasise the energy aspect opened my eyes. But I don’t believe the 2 men took Jay with them just to sell some pills as it seems too much effort and travel distance. I assume there has to be a bigger deal behind it. Surely he drugged himself over the top, and did something dangerously stupid at the bnb, because he escaped from there and was on the run and then the situation became more and more serious for him.
yes, i wonder if he went there for something above and beyond a small drug deal. But if it was a serious business deal, would they conduct it late on a Sunday night after a rave when everyone is high?
There are also claims that Jay stole someone’s watch either a Rolex or AP and was going to sell it however there aren’t any actual records of this happening as yet so conspiracy is that the owner of the watch knows the guys at the air bnb and they took him there to teach him a lesson and then there are other conspiracies that Jay was dealing drugs and lost the bag with them as well as claims he stole the watch or drugs from the guys at the air bnb… So there are a lot of conspiracies flying around…
@@Plingu698 Maybe it wasn’t about a deal at all. They helped him to escape from something what happened before. Or they lured him there, under false flag, to get rid of him. Or it was all staged, and he has never been there.
@kaminoire4910 all I've got is one little speech sample , I'm afraid!
Maybe Jay was selling E for the guys and went back to their place to cash out and they got rid of him?
What do you think of Jay's mother asking for more money to bring him home. Isn't that first go fund me more than enough?
@@bleedingbitzy I hadn't heard that.
@Plingu698 There is a statement you can analyse on the news somewhere. Only if enough ppl require it of you for your channel
You’ve got absolutely no idea of what happened.
@@issimondias thanks
There would be no sense in analysing if he did, you actually did compliment him. And rightly so. (Although I think you didn't mean to) 🤭
@oddity6464 I meant to. All feedback is welcome and gratefully received!
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So are you trying to say lucy killed him
@Mada-yq5sf good heavens no. I do think she feels guilty for something though. Perhaps for getting him involved with those two guys, perhaps for giving him the idea to go to tenerife, I don't know. She shouldn't blame herself. He is old enough to make his own decisions.
@@Plingu698 well well I 💯 know he was murdered
@@Plingu698 I also know someone from the rave that said he was offering drugs for sale
@@Mada-yq5sf go on, spill the 🫘
@@Plingu698 trust me the police are well involved
She lying from the start mum knows where jays is plain to see that lol
Good analysis brother. Subbed.
@stevenlivingston9915 thank you!
What completely pretentious rubbish! 😠😡
@@Linda-iy3qh thank you!
I find your take on this very interesting, Did you watch any interviews Lucy had running up to the GoFund me? She is from the UK and speaks very differently from a lot of people, she is very young and says the word “like” a lot after every sentence (I know this is common in the UK as I have family there)… the way you go through the information is like she intentionally wrote it like that, I just don’t think she is smart enough to do what you are saying intentionally and I mean no offense to her, I mean it in a way that she is 18/19 and writing in a young person way which doesn’t always make sense to older people… As an example I take it that the way she says “we” at the end is because it’s days after he went missing and she has been speaking to his family and their friends… You say that a story teller normally does certain things, are you referring to actual story tellers who learn to use words in a certain way or people in general who make up stories intentionally?
I have seen so many different conspiracies in this case it’s scary… It’s gone from loosing a bag full of drugs to stealing drugs to stealing a watch (to some a Rolex and others an AP) to them all being drug mules to Jay being stabbed to human trafficking (people saying they took Jay to the coast and smuggled him out on a boat) to Lucy did it and everyone knows what’s happened and they lying… some say the gofund Mr was set up to pay off a drug debt or pay the person he stole the watch from.. Some say his mother is using it to take the family on a holiday for free.. Some say Lucy wants to take the money for herself… It’s really all over the place… I don’t know what to believe anymore… It could be as simple as Jay was off his head drunk/high stayed on at the festival and went back to these guys bnb cause they where going to party more, maybe he took more drugs and made some stupid decision to walk back to the hotel cause the other guys wanted to sleep and he didn’t/couldn’t sleep… Once walking for a while he realised the mistake and decided to take a “shortcut” back and got lost which is when he called his friends (hence he apparently said he couldn’t go back to the bnb) and while in the middle of the terrain he fell into a creak and didn’t make it, his body could be in a place that can’t be seen… If he wasn’t in a sober state of mind anything could have happened, I’ve personally blacked out before on a night out and woke up in a strangers house (I was really young and did some stupid things), it turned out the people I was with were friends of my close friend but I’d never met them before, scary part is I remember going out the night before and that’s it, I have no idea where we went during the night or how we got to where I woke up, we went out at 7pm and according to my mate we got “home” to his friends place at like 5:30am… I remember up until about 11pm… Everything in between is a blank and I even drove my car 😮 in that state… I had to use my phones GPS to get home cause I didn’t even know what area I was in, turns out I was 1 and half hours away from my house and the place we started the party at… Looking back I’m ashamed of myself cause I endangered my own life and others around me but it shows that things can happen which can’t always be explained, I could have driven my car off a cliff and never been found… I do think there are some weird and dodgy things happening and some people know more that why they saying but he needs to be found hopefully alive but it not an autopsy need to be done to see if their was fowl play… One thing to remember is drugs are illegal and even though a lot of people take them and everyone know people take them especially out there and at these raves/festivals no one will really want to admit that to the police or news so they tend to “leave” out the parts that include the use of illegal substances in fear that if they tell they may land up in jail or having to snitch on their dealer and land up 6 foot under… Sorry for the long message but I did enjoy your take on this but wanted to give you more context to the story or should I say stories about this…
that was brilliant! i wasn't going to read it because it looked like too much, but once i started i couldn't stop. You have an excellent way with words, and you should take that as a compliment from me because i know what i'm talking about, and i don't say that often. Sorry about the confusion around 'we', some if it is word salad, i'm afraid but what i meant to say is that Lucy never puts herself into that close a proximity with Jay. she never refers to them as 'we'. if she did, we would see that she thinks of their relationship as close. she does however 'we up' with the family and i think she is latching into their experience ( want him home) while at the same time worrying about something that is private to her ( 'just' want him home -- the word just indicates something hidden, a private worry. i am not sure which bit you mean when you say 'narrative'. is that in the P-Diddy video?
@@Plingu698 thank you for the compliment, Again I do apologize for the essay, I typed and didn’t realize how long it was until I hit post. Thank you for the explanation, that makes perfect sense and now I see exactly what you mean. I do have to say she is hiding something and not being totally honest, It could be something to do with drugs hence she isn’t saying anything more… This whole situation is getting so out of hand, Now there was apparently a song “Lost in Tenerife” by Jay Slater which was uploaded on the 15th June which is 2 days before he went missing… Others are saying it’s a revenge attack because of the assault he was involved in a few years ago… I have definitely subbed to your channel, I find your work really interesting, Thank you and keep doing what you do…