Courtney Clenney's Defense Fires Back at Computer Crime Charges
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- Courtney Clenney’s defense attorneys, Sabrina Puglisi and Frank Prieto, said the latest computer crimes charges are “clearly prosecutorial overreaching” and violate attorney-client privileges in the OnlyFans Model Murder case. Clenney's parents were arrested for allegedly accessing victim Christian Obumseli's laptop without permission.
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Also Christian didn’t abandon the laptop at Courtney’s home - he died there….it still belongs to the family.
you have no idea if Courtney purchased the laptop. she was very obviously the breadwinner, his name wasn't even on the lease. not enough information has come out. even if Courtney didn't purchase the laptop, crime scene investigation was done - the family did not come to retrieve property in the months following. the argument can be made the laptop was abandoned since months passed & no one made a claim to that belonging.
@@jennys2543your long statement is a joke 🤡 🤡🤡🤡
@@jennys2543 That’s ridiculous. There’s no indication that he did not buy it. And even if she bought it, gifting it to him makes it his. And even if they had some weird arrangement where he was merely borrowing it, the data within it is HIS and therefore part of the estate. The fact that they were attempting to access data that didn’t belong to them is a crime. They could just as easily replaced the physical C-drive and had a fresh laptop on their hands. They could have had a tech just reformat it even. They chose to access data that didn’t belong to them. Lock them all up.
@jenny that’s speculation on your part first of all. Secondly even if someone buys something for you as a gift, it’s no longer theirs because they GIFTED it to you. No takesy backsies after your murder them. The laptop did not belong to the Clenney t, it belonged to the Obumseli family as legal claimants to his property. They had to huddle around and crack the password so they could plunder it…it was not theirs.
clearly you are not a lawyer like myself. its all speculation, that is my point entirely. no one has any idea if the laptop was stolen, abandoned or purchased by Courtney herself. you have no idea what the receipt of that computer looks like. and most importantly, a basic lesson in American criminal justice - she is accused of murder, has not been convicted.@@basicallyno1722
I'm sick of this attorney. She's a liar and a criminal. I want to know why she felt is was ok for the parents to keep possession of the dead mans laptop and even go so far as to search it, with her assistance! They were not his "spouse" so her argument is out the window.
I want to see this attorney locked up, she has no integrity.
🙋♀️agreed! As a practising attorney, myself.
Some Attorneys are SHAMELESS… These are as bad as their lying a$$ client that is a cold blooded killer and abuser!!! Nobody deserves that… especially this man who had every right to protect himself against his violent, narcissistic gf but never did. I trust his family will see justice ❤
I agree😢
and apparently can't spell "easy"
Living together for a certain period of time makes you common law, so I think that might give her the same rights as a spouse. Either way, it was in bad taste and is not a good look…
Domestic violence is always wrong, always. Christian was a victim. She was the abuser. I see why she is so entitled. She was raised that way.
Did you see the video of her beating him and calling him “boy” in a condescending tone? If you live in the south, like they do, you know “boy” is a term used to denigrate black men. When she was saying “boy” while spitting trash at him, it was clear she was putting him in his place and using race to her advantage. Very sick woman. She gets that mindset from her family.
🎯
Spot on
Exactly regardless of what he said about whatever that girl was the aggressor and she needs to be charged
Tampering with state evidence, is a crime.
Shady ass lawyers I swear
Money talks.
Theyre truly disgusting
Mind blowing, they certainly picked characters that matched this family's lowlife ways!
Yea they are trying to paint him as the stereotype we already know
@@stahhpppitttt and court tv has done it to that guy Vinny
He never stabbed her!!! And you have NO business going into that young mans computer!!! It doesnt belong to them! Period!!!
Correct, unfortunate he didn't have enough sense to WALK AWAY from a toxic relationship 😢😢
These attorneys both need to be charged as accessories.
I agree. Don't know how that has been overlooked.
It’s the cops fault they failed to find the laptop
@@johnnytactical3054she wasn’t charged with a crime until August 2022. The family didn’t try accessing the laptop until September 2022 even though they probably had it for months. The timing is suspect.
@@johnnytactical3054 The defence attorneys (as officers of the court) have an absolute positive duty to turn that over as soon as it is found... it is just a matter of which one gets disbarred first
@@grbenway the courts are are not trustworthy
That elevator video is shocking…he could have punched her in the face and been legally justified…since he didn’t, shows he is not a violent man
And unfortunately a dead man now. 😞
Yea she was trying to instigate him and antagonize him that's the game they play and since he didn't play the game she got mad
Yeah she literally stabbed him a week or two prior when they were on vacation and even his texts right after that was him forgiving her and trying not to instigate or fight anymore.
@@wolfpecker5710 what is wrong with this guy that he did not leave this psycho?
@@Salty-cracker68The same way women stay with their abusers, it’s not gender specific
They created, raised, and is still protecting their entitled, spoiled daughter. Hold all of them accountable.
Agree
An abuse victim would never attack her abuser like that, they live in fear of any little thing setting the abuser off.
Generally that is true but “reactive abuse” can also be common. Although I don’t think that’s what is going on here.
Exactly....🎉🎉....she were the abuser all evidence shows it
excatly and true im dvs from uk
EXACTLY! As a former DV victim this case is so infuriating. Anyone who's ever been in any kind of abusive relationship can clearly see that she's the abuser.
@hailey that was not reactive abuse….she was the abuser both mentally and physically and there is ample evidence of that.
How is it that her attorneys have NOT been JAILED and DISBARRED!?
Although I do agree that these two attorneys are thoroughly despicable, it is because the defendant deserves a trial under the system.
If you had to guess the passcode you did not have access. If you had to make several attempts. You did not have access
These two clown attorneys have to be stripped from the rights to work as attorneys, but not before the trial..I wan't to see them fail miserably first!
Yep! 👍🏿
They were not married. She and her parents had no legal rights to access his property.
There's no video of him being the aggressor because he was the one being victimized. These attorneys' desperate attempt at spinning a tall tail is nauseating.
Agreed.
Tall tale, as in an exaggerated story
I totally concur
not enough information has come out - Courtney was very obviously the breadwinner, certainly possible Courtney purchased the computer and/or it was a joint purchase. Courtney even knew the password to get into the computer so there was joint possession implied. state couldn't even charge tampering. do people become convicted felons when you open your boyfriend's phone? this new computer charge won't hold up. also why weren't the lawyers charged if they were advising this entire thing? if it was a real charge, the lawyers would get hit with ethical sanctions really fast.
It'll probably work though. If I were Courtney's lawyer I would advise her to cry a lot in court and sneak smiles at the men on the jury.
Shouldn’t that computer had been handed over to the police,prosecutors or parents at the very least?
Exactly - they’re describing the laptop as if it was abandoned there by Christian. It wasn’t abandoned, it was the last place he was before he was murdered. That entire laptop should be submitted for evidence - not plundered through
Law-enforcement had not filed charges and had the opportunity to seize the laptop yet did not and turned the apartment with all its possessions back over to Courtney.
@@nadagabri5783
It wasn't theirs to take possession of.
@@dianahill5116 everything in the apartment, technically becomes Courtney ‘s possessions
@@nadagabri5783
They weren't married.
What are her attorneys talking about? You do not touch the laptop of someone you're accused of murderering. Period. It ain't a good look.
Obviously. 😒
Agree 👍🏽
The computer was not seized by LE, the apartment was turned over to Courtney with all of its possessions. There were no charges filed at the time.
@@nadagabri5783 It is illegal to hack into an electronic device that doesn’t belong to you. Courtney didn’t know the PIN, she gave her lawyers a list of possibilities and one of them worked. That there shows she was not a co owner/user of the laptop.
On top of that, the first mentioning of the laptop in the group chat used by her parents and lawyers was in September 2022. Courtney was arrested August 2022. So they were messing with the laptop of a dead person their daughter was accused of murdering…BIG no no.
Tampering with state evidence, is a crime.
She 100% reminds me of Amber Heard. Both was the aggressors but both cried victim. The only difference, Johnny D made it out alive and Christian didn't 😞
Cuz amber was less violent than her
Johnny Depp is a wife beater though
Your comment is stupidity in itself.. and so conditioned..
😂 Just to be clear, your lawyer absolutely cannot encourage you to hack your dead exes laptop. Thats a crime. And they shouldn't be doing interviews.
Courtney nor her parents had been given the password to Christian's laptop, otherwise you wouldn't have had to "crack" that code.
Having to "crack" a password code over days of attempts and guesses on a laptop owned by a dead man that YOUR daughter killed, is not the same as having a deceased partners laptop in your possession.
He didn’t even give it to Courtney. Listen again her Dad figured it out. That’s why they are charged. Courtney didn’t know ow what it was and thought it was a name. Her Dad figured out it was numbers.
He seems to be quite rude and toxic himself, this defense attorney.
Prieto is on the record of calling Obumseli an "animal".
So with his no-so coded language... Jury selection will be interesting.
They will be seeking a Trayvon Martin trial type jury.
Floridians have seen this 🎥🎬 before.
well most attorneys would not have done these things... they would never have taken part in trying to access a victims computer.
@@carcher3279Sadly this is likely. Hopefully all will come to light. Atty Prieto (Frank) is the actual ‘animal’ in this case… just speaking wildly and out of his a$& most of the time. Thinking that it will skew the public opinion to his view of these heinous events. 😮
The attorney client privilege does not apply when you are helping your client commit a crime. Those 2 attorneys you have on this show, plus the other 2 who are not on it, need to be arrested for computer crimes too because they broke the law in hacking into that dead man's computer. They need to be locked up and lose their law license.
They weren’t even the parent lawyer.
Obviously looking to delete evidence
These two lawyers are so corrupt…
JUSTICE FOR CHRISTIAN ❤
Yes 💜
@@elleb.9881 YES!!!!🌹
Very disturbing
These attorneys cannot stop doing media interviews.. I swear they love the attention.
Yeah they are trying to get in front of the videos of her abusing him. But they are doing it by telling lies. All Christians friends and neighbors paint Courtney as the aggressor.
Oh please 🙄 they always have a bunch of lies 🙄 and excuses!! Obviously the state attorney's office had enough evidence/ reasons to arrest her mom and dad.
Life without parole for courtney thank you
Lol! They are a crime family!!
Clearly the apple or apples doesnt fall far from the tree
If he was violent as she said don’t you think he would have defended himself a bit more aggressive?
If he was as violent as she said she wouldn't have dared attack him in the first place..
because he didn't want to hurt her. She was hateful and he wasn't the kind of man that would beat a woman's ass
Exactly she is playing that card and we know what card she's playing when it clearly shows her being the aggressor
@@milesstyles7428right! I’ve been in an abusive relationship and I would NEVER lay a hand on my ex, because I knew that it would have consequences and I would regret that. She is without a doubt the aggressor! Poor Christian. Not only did he lose his life, now he’s also being denigrated and lied about, while he’s in his grave. So sad 💔
@@kristinanotaguilera sorry to hear you've been in a abusive relationship, unfortunately there's a lot of abusers out there, they never change and they never stop. She has relentlessly abused Christian both in life and in death but it won't be long until justice is served and he will finally be able to rest in peace 🙏
When she's the one that murdered him, yes!! It should be illegal for them to search his personal property for evidence to help their daughter's case!!!
So the prosecution can’t look at your stuff but you’re giving the password to the family of the accused to the victim’s laptop?! What if there were more evidence of her being the aggressor on there? They would’ve erased any evidence of her being the abuser.
Courtney didn’t know the ointment to the computer her Dad figured it out.
You know listening to these lawyers and their excuses for the fact that their client and now her parents have ALL THE EXCUSES in the world shows EXACTLY how their client became and feels so ENTITLED as she does. These lawyers need to get their HEADS out of the SAND because their client and her parents ARE GUILTY AND SHOULD BE CHARGED.
She says the group text between Courtney’s lawyer and her family is actually attorney-client privilege….but is it attorney-client privilege if the lawyer is COURTNEYS lawyer, not the family’s in this particular case? The group text was between the family and Courtney’s lawyer. So does attorney-client privilege count here if the attorney is talking to potential witnesses, irrespective that these potential witnesses are clenney family members
Thank you 👍
I thought that the attorney-client privileged doesn't apply to conversations where 3rd party is present. Group chat - parents are 3rd party.
And if lawyer have a conversation with the witness that conversation becomes an evidence available/ presented/crossed at a trial, right? (Someone correct me if I'm wrong) so there's no privilege there and even if that would be the case... Lawey 4:20 "I don't want turn you into a witnesses YET " to a father... So wouldn't apply here... 🤷
@catela thanks for that info! I hope it gets verified by a lawyer - will probably check Google to see if I can find more when I have time. The lawyers arguments don’t make sense to me. She’s calling Christian a “spouse or partner” but not “the victim of this crime, the reason we’re all here.”
@@basicallyno1722 "privilege waiver arises when a communications is witnessed by a third party or where client does not intend the communication to be confidential."
"If two parties are represented by the same attorney in a single legal matter, neither client can assert the privilege"
So, unless the father and other on that group chat are represented by this attorneys in this specific case (parents are not charge in anything regarding Cristian) there's no privilege.
So the woman attorney was "this is questionable how do prosecution even have that messages" I'm guessing from tracking father- daughter communication...
Also lawyers do lawyering, so here they avoiding using word victim regarding Cristian because their case is that he wasn't a victim in all of this, that he was abusive etc. So that's on purpose.
And I vaguely emember them saying they have a video in response to the showed one but they can't just release it. Now they saying "we don't have a video"... Again, lawyers will be lawyering and sometimes it means just creating a noise...
That’s not what she is saying though. She is asking how those messages came to be uncovered. If the communications were between the parents and their attorney with Courtney’s lawyer CCed then I think it is privileged. If it’s between the parents and Courtney’s lawyer then likely not. Regardless, one would have had to have read the communications in order to establish that client-attorney privilege doesn’t exist which is not how it works.
These Lawyers are just as Shady,
as Her &. Her entire Family.😏
It seems Her Family wants their
Money💰Maker back asap.
Shady family !!
Its repulsive how much air time court tv loves to give to the defense lawyers of clear cut guilty trash.
Her lawyer saying Christian was a very damaged person? Her sure eas damaged and with a knife! Give me a break...blaming the victim. 😡
"Very violent beating"? and not 1 single pic from a woman who lived on camera and wanted him to leave her alone? Yeah right.
This lawyer will lose her license she just doesn't know it yet😂😂😂
Nonsense. White collar criminals are protected.
She seems dumb enough to not understand a damn thing..
If there's any justice
They tried to get away with their daughter’s evil deeds
These attorneys need to be disbarred
Lol😅! Wow he doesn't like when someone says something about him 🙄 huh? The civil lawyer is spot on saying that. And remember how vile and disgusting he's been the entire time talking about the victim calling him an animal etc he should be ashamed of himself!!
I understand defending your client in court, as they do have an oath to align by. But going on live TV goes above and beyond that oath.
They're trying to counter the narrative of videos already leaked to the media.
Wow, they really said he is a damaged person. Doesn’t mean he deserves to be killed. I feel like them bringing the self defense case forward makes her look guiltier
I thought the same exact thing.
As an attorney myself, I find these lawyers to be scumbags! How can they lie with a straight face like that, without even a modicum of shame!
Oh I don't know but leaving the country and out of reach of the police is kind of like fleeing. They can say whatever they want about Christian but we all know she did not kill him in self defense. She is the aggressor
As a victim/ survivor of domestic violence. Courtney clenney is the abuser! It is obvious! Prayers for the victims family 🙏🙏
I can’t wait til the judge shuts these two lawyers up and sends them on their way to prepare for a big conviction!!!
Men are also victims of spousal and relationship abuse....I was before separation and divorce finally brought closure 16 years ago...God spared me🙏🙏🙏
They had no right taking it only to hide things imo
Not if they are not following the law
They weren’t married that wasn’t her property and they broke into it.
That’s his “type”, though.
Exactly. He wouldn't leave that sex worker alone!
@peekaboots01 that and because she wasn't black but yet acted like the same type of woman he dont like but it was ok because she wasn't black his mothers black his sisters black there are black women in many nations from many different cultural backgrounds he could of chose from but yet he chose a mutation that acted like the stereotype he was trying to say all black women acted like which is totally not true so it's ironic he got murdered by his mutated albino gf he loved so much and idgaf who I upset
Fit, friendly and submissive
She needs to get life. Sickening what she done.
She took a life, she NEEDS to surrender hers.
She needs to spend the rest of her life in prison
That’s pretty SICK that the female attorney was giving out numerical passwords to the Clenney’s to get into Christian’s computer! I think that would make her a witness (like Rashbaum in the Donna Adelson case) & then she couldn’t be the attorney on the case!
You don’t have video of Christian being abusive to Courtney because he WASN’t…SHE was the abusive one! These lawyers are ludicrous! They need to pull their head out of Clenney’s Only Fans videos & get into the REAL FACTS of this case!
Their SICKLY, ugh.😝
Why are her lawyers doing an interview!! When this case is still active, This could ruin their case!! I thought it was against the best interest of their clients to do this!! And so i was right She was on drugs Because smthe lawyers said she was in rehab in Hawaii!! I said all along she acted like she was on drugs!!
Yes, it's illegal. He did not give her permission, he's dead.
I’m so sick of these high profile cases playing out via attorney statements on court tv. Lets get in a courtroom and let the legal system do what its designed to do.
Why give someone a pin if they're not planning to access it?! I want to know what the prosecutor was illuding to when he asked Mr Clenney is the family would feel safe if she was released on bond? Has the police ever been called to the family's home in TX regarding Courtney?!
She shouldn't be released at all she committed murder and now she's trying to play victim and we all know why she thinks she can get away because he was black and African at that so she thinks she can get away with it and play the victim and idgaf who I offend because it's true
It makes total sense to question the motive behind giving someone a pin if there's no intention of access-this does raise eyebrows. When the prosecutor hinted at the safety concerns of Mr. Clenney's release, it suggests there might be underlying issues or past incidents that could jeopardize the family's security. The inquiry about police being called to the family's home in Texas specifically concerning Courtney implies a history or pattern of behavior that could be relevant to the case.
@@praytogodus I believe she was abusing him threatening Christian probably trying to get him in trouble
Probably saying that she would get him put away and they would believe her
@@stahhpppitttt It's possible that fear, manipulation, and threats were used as tools of control, pushing the situation towards a tragic outcome.
Her lawyers got smirks on their faces like she's gonna get away with this thing. And it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest bit.
Are the defense attorneys concerned they may be charged?
Clearly they are above the law. Shark infested justice system.
Wait until she has her court date and finds out they have text messages of when she previously stabbed him.
Nope. Shes guilty af
I almost fainted when her attorney said that she was in rehab in Hawaii! Yeah ok.
Even if we entertain the narrative that Christian was abusive to her, it doesn’t warrant that response (stabbing someone). And her constant aggression towards him, don’t show signs of her of being a victim.
They are back on here after the state arguing for them not to
The judge hasn’t ruled yet. She’s taking her sweet time.
Another case of bad parents raising an awful child. Her parents were always on the sidelines with their money getting her out of the trouble she continually got herself into.
The constant rage, the elevator attack, the leg stabbing, the racial abuse, all very damning of Clenney.... and Obumseli.
Yeah, I bet they would fire back...it doesn't change the fact that she abused and killed a man. I guess that's how the parents raised their child 🤷🏾♀️
That is what they wish to distract from.
@carcher3279 Bottom of the barrel lawyer as far as I am concerned. Clearly no remorse from their clients who seem to think it ok to break the law and defame a man who is no longer there to defend himself. It's just unbelievable
Look what she did for work. Look how she dressed for her interrogation.
Pure trash.
Since I don't believe the Defendant I don't believe her lawyers either. Im guessing there was probable cause for a wire tap of at least Clenny's parents.
Clenneys attys have had all the networks on speed-dial for a year doing a press tour. Now it’s biting them _personally_ on the ass it’s an ‘ongoing case/can’t comment’. I’ll volunteer as a juror if CTV televises gavel to gavel coverage of an ethics board trial into these dirty attys.
"Actions validate words" A few videos clearly proves that Cortney was the aggressor in their relationship. Unless it is clearly proven that Christian was the aggressor in their relationship , I don't believe it,
He wasnt, she bloody was.😝
I hate hearing, "There are two sides to every story." Sometimes there is just the victim and the perpetrator.
“Rehab in Hawaii “ She needed that b4 she decided to murder. And Courtney’s dumb as hell lawyer, Frank, says/spins, the boyfriend “was damaged” but tells it as a half truth because he clearly was ‘damaged’ by the defendant. So sad for this man & his family. Especially as the concocted stories are being told now that he’s dead yet many videos showing Clenney as the aggressive monster that she is. 🤦🏽♀️
I bet she took knife throwing lessons 🤣
She was an onlyfans ninja in a previous life...
She did not throw that knife she stabbed him up close.
It's sad that they messed with the victims laptop and no one would have known about their sinister acts if the state didn't find a way to obtain the information. Hopefully they went about it in a legal manner and the evidence sticks because it's obvious who was the abuser
Exactly they could of put some bogus stuff on their to set him up I'm glad they got the parents
Says a lot about the parents and worse, their defense attorneys. She doesn’t feel comfortable discussing the communications because she knows this looks bad for her. Sounds just like Dan Rashbaum. Shady af.
They were tempering with evidence. Shut up.
These 2 lawyers were complaining to the judge about Court TV's narrative and the media's coverage of the proceedings a few days ago. Now they go onto Court TV's program to talk and spout their narrative. Hypocrite much?
Exactly!!! I was literally thinking the same thing just now!!
And right on cue heres tweedle dumb and tweedle dee to say that the crazy face they are defending is really a sweet little choir girl who’s done no wrong! When the time comes for trial they should just say refer to Court tv for our arguments
8:11 he can’t even say Christian was a bad person he knows he’s defending a murder lol
When did “Stripper” become Model?
I’ve never heard my friends say they were going to the Model Club.
She's a porn star actually.
The lawyer is disgusting find something useful a mans dead and your client either tried to plant false evidence or try to dig up something so she could get off with murder disgraceful we all see she was the agressor she was the one abusing him case closed
These people keep saying it's a toxic relationship, but I never saw anything to indicate that Christian did anything wrong. The dude worshipped the ground she walked on.
Women shouldn't beat on men and men shouldn't beat on women....pretty simple. She appears to be the aggressor, but will see what the trial brings.
She definitely is he was trying to avoid confrontation unfortunately it was with his type ironically but rip to him though
5:48 at the moment that the alleged 'snooping crimes' were committed, those weren't 'the clients' they were just the parents of the client, so there was no privilege that covered those acts.
Put Courtney Clenney in prison for minimum 25 years for her horrible crime!!!
Did she hide the laptop after killing him? How did the cops not find it at the crime scene. Either way her parents are disgusting. Glad they got arrested
I don't see how she can possibly spin the case to be self defence after that horrible footage of them in the lift. She is going for blood and not displaying an ounce of fear. She was clearly the aggressor. If she was living in fear, as she claims, there is NO WAY she is would go after him like that.
Clenney claiming what she did was
self defense should get her an even LONGER sentence. What a lowlife! 🤮
I wonder how they even figured that out??
The father figured it was numbers and he probably used his birthdate.
Anyone that lives or lived in that building knows she was a violent mentally distress woman. How many times folks saw him with scars in his face and nail scratches in the arm. He can’t defend him self now, so it’s highly low for the defense to disgrace him like that .
She is so guilty. It sounds like crazy women that has mental problems that needed to dealt with before her stabbing spree.
She’s guilty end of
Oh! NOW hey don't want to say anything because it's "under investigation" 😅 because they are caught and donno what to say.
She's guilty
She doesn't feel comfortable 😂😂😂😂
Defense - poor excuses.
The only parents are guilty of they didn't teach their daughter not to kills And what not monitoring her all activities i know she's an adult but they should guide her