"IS JINN POSSESSION REAL?" - Baraka Boys Podcast (Season 2, Ep.6)
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- Can jinns (demons) really possess and control human beings?! Will your friend crash his car if you don't say masha'Allah, and what on Earth is "black magic"? We take a look at these questions in this weeks episode, and talk about how perpetuating certain myths has led to mass exploitation, and the neglect of serious medical and mental health issues.
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It’s dangerous to have little knowledge. When someone has a limited understanding of a concept they often tend to think that they’re understanding is all there is to know. So when somebody more knowledgeable comes to teach them they just turn a deaf ear
What a brilliant observation سبحان الله may Allah protect us from such compound ignorance and arrogance.
May Allah bless y‘all for what you are doing. I think you guys have a great impact on my religious journey bc seeing you being so passionate about deen and your love for Allah and his Beloved pbuh pushes me to love and learn more about Islam.
I truly appreciate what you are doing. May nothing but the mercy, comfort and blessings of Allah reach you! 🙏🏽❤️
There's 3 types of possession:
-Possession by the whisper (Waswaasa)
-Possession by having mental psychology (mental problem)
-Possession by Mass (you feel your body is somehow taken by a spirit)
In general it's rare to see the third possession type Because it doesn't happen to everyone... But they do exist ...
After all Allahu A3laam I believe in that
@Witness Truth you mean the third type possession... Well it does exist even me I wasn't believing till it happened to some people ...those people will admit you that they don't remember half of their journey what they were doing... sometimes it happens them to be in a room full of people while being conscious in a fraction of second they see themselves outside inconsciously as soon as they become conscious they ask themselves what am doing here? May Allah help them but we cannot know who have " this problem" in general when we face those people they are completely "normal" with us it is only them who will feel this awkardness ... The moment they start talking about it only scholars will take it seriously their problem... Again it's something that doesn't happen to everyone...its rare to see cases like that don't worry... Anyway it's weird to tell you that but it's not Alzaemar problem even them they notice something a bit cliché about their life...Allah a3laam after all am not a scholar but just saying what people who were close to my surroundings had encountered ... anyway in sha Allah it's is by the will of Allah that one day you will understand what am saying...I cannot convince you to believe in what am saying... Because nowadays it's hard to make people believe this...Salam
@@leoneyssymon4299 That sounds a lot more like dissociative disorders, the Muslims who are experiencing those episodes have a lot of sheikhs fill their head with medieval nonsense, giving jinn power they don't have. Tell them to fear Allah and seek medical treatment, if the jinn had such power Allah would have accepted us blaming jinns for our bad deeds, but this isn't the case and everyone will be judged for his bad deeds.
@Witness Truth everything you said it's true, But do you know the significance of having a Qarin and a Tabi3i...?
my brother let's stop the conversation, peace to you and your family
I enjoy listening their podcast so much. I hope they continue this program if they can !!👻👻👻
I can't dispute what you've said and tbh the lack of mention in quran and sunnah is very surprising. I don't need to have heard a jinn story, I've seen a jinn possession in someone as immediate as my family. It is real and I don't think any of you can speak until you've seen one personally. It's terrifying.
Yaseen Sultan
100%
Regarding evidences
Sounds like they need DMT...
@@Nextstreet8 Who needs DMT?
@@yaseensultan8826 respectfully.. possession are serious .. and D.M.T is in everyone of us,but you can also extract it from a tree in south America and gets rid of jins and shows you how one gets possessed in the first place , its only human to be terrified bt .. its just bad energy in your body from past trauma..
@@Nextstreet8 Ummm, DMT is a hallucinogenic so even if I did think what you're saying is true, it's not Islamically permitted and you can't see jinns, that's the whole point of them being part of the unseen, if they possess someone you just see the effects of the jinns actions on the body.
Personally, these jinn stories excite me cos they point to something in the metaphysical. Call it energy, spirits, whatever you wanna call it. It's crazy how we've come so far with tech and stuff but imagining things like this is somehow irrational. Your phone is literally arranged metals wheezing with light and energy from God knows where. I feel like social media has connected us in different ways than we can imagine in the metaphysical realm. I also feel the west has reduced us into treating rationality and stuff like these like they're mutually exclusive. They are not. Don't know how long it'll take humanity, but I hope one day, we'll be able to understand and tap into the benefits of the spiritual in a good way. Today's magic is the science of tomorrow.
You hit the nail on the head lol, this comment captured my feelings 100%
@@30251 it be like that sometimes
Big facts fam. I think about this know everyday.
Thank you for talking about this topic. Similar to what most of you guys said i believe in jinn, waswasa but in terms on full on possession im not too sure. I would like to add to the story faisal shared that perhaps the young boy was reenacting the guilt that he felt about killing the cat, or have an epileptic fit, people can have psychosomatic symptoms where their mental state shows up in physical symptoms.
P. S I loved when you started to doing the solider boy dance, you guys always keep the banter on point 👌🏿
Shaytaan is definitely enjoining this table! May Allaah guide you all, spreading subha to the laymen Muslims.
:What do you mean by black magic?
Khaleed: magic done by black people😂😂😂
😅😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Proper triggered response lol
Mistaken me if i am wrong but when Adam AS was in the process of creation (NO SOUL) didn't iblis enter his body and flow through him out of curiosity? i dont have exact hadith but i am sure i heard this in the creation of Adam lectures? like wasn't ibilis present while Allah SWT was in process of creating Adam AS, and did he not claim superiority of the fact that his bodty was made of clay and he could flow through his blood? Something along the lines of that? Correct me if i am wrong
Im sorry but these brothers have no clue what there talking about the Quran mentions sihr (black magic) in surah Nas and there are more then one authentic hadith about posession
Could you talk on another podcast on the issue of LGTB and homophobia and how muslims shoud react?
Selfie The G “issue of LGBT”
@Witness Truth Behave yourself, you are not a Prophet nor were you given the temperament of one
@Witness Truth I'm 68 years old wdym
@Witness Truth Oh so you're ageist? I'm sure you're attacking me because i'm African. So you're ageist and racist? Is that what this is?
The question should be is homosexuality permissable and how should we react. I have lgbt in my family but I think todays ummah goes AGAINST the deen when even entertaining the thought of homophobia. It's a sin point blank. If we change that what's the point of being muslim then?
Great podcast ! What mic’s do you use ? Or is that the audio that the camera catches ?
Jinn possession for is real. You will truly see it if you actually seen it. Th is is proven in quran and hadith.
This was very beneficial!!thank you for sharing. The evil eye is very real, one should just read the Mu’awwidhat to protect thereselves. There are ahadeeth from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) which speak of the effects of the evil eye. For example it is narrated in al-Saheehayn that ‘Aishah (may Allah be pleased with her) said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) used to tell me to recite ruqyah for protection against the evil eye.
Surah jinn is about believing jinns not all are their to posses
Disappointed with this one. You guys are some decent men and have amazing discussions. However this one some of yous have got so wrong. Actually go learn about this and sit under REAL scholars of quran and hadith and interpreters of the deen. Not just going of your own assumptions and opinions. Why was falaq and naas given to us... And these are protections for us from evil eye, jinn magic etc. They are there for a reason. Not for nothing..
These guys should seek knowledge before speaking
The dangerous thing is that when people have a little knowledge of a subject they tend to think that that’s all there is to know about that topic. So when somebody more knowledgeable comes and tries to teach them, they just deny what he’s saying because they think the little they know is all there is to it.
No one
Khaled: after saying the wild thoughts possession
Background sound: Wild Wild thoughts 😂💛
The brother explaining the cat jin story i 100% belive him ive experienced paranormal activity myslef wierd movments and burining senstaion espesically when quran being recited tje unseen world is hard to explain us humans wont ever understand it tbh but i do belive jins can enter your body and take over when quran is being recited(ruqyah)
You guys are talking about something you don't even understand. Especially as Muslims, this is projecting ignorance to the highest level. Jinn possession isn't easy, you've just insulted everyone who has been possessed by a jin, had full-on reactions from jinn possession and dealing with the aftermath. Maybe next time don't talk about something you don't fully know- Jinn and Shaytan are different. What is wrong with Ruqya? Just Quran, can heal anything. listening to Quran is going to make you feel better.
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Na fam I will leng down any jinn that comes this way, couple surahs and a muay thai elbow. 1) Fr though, they get their dimension, we get ours. Allah has made that divide, what creature has the power to get through that except by Allah's will? The real enemy is shaytaan, who is out and about - inside all of us.
2)Even if it happens, this magic ting isn't our place, and we should be looking for observable (physical/biological) reasons behind issues first - for it's the medicinal and scientific practices Allah has encouraged and made halal for humanity.
3) Why is a Jinn gonna wanna mess with us anyway? They're basically normal people. Even if it's a deviant - we're basically peasants, why would it not rock up to George Bush or someone?
Let us sat that ISIS members are possessed by the jinn, that does not excuse what they do, it means that we must as people work harder to educate people so they aren’t able to be strayed away by the jinns.
The jinn do not go for the Imam because those who are adhering to the path are going to be harder to stray away.
"where the quran and sunnah stop we stop." guys please go to the next podcast about salafism they dash this idea out. they pick and choose about religion
I’ve seen dark magic in Indonesia, it is real. There are shamans who think they are doing good but they’re messing with dark magic.
Smokeless fire = plasma
Bmt it’s seizures n epilepsy
6:48
Kontane na dé
*5:43* It’s interesting how the “majority opinion” changes through the ages. What might have once been a majority opinion is now unheard of. Like today, most Muslims believe Ishmael, not Isaac, was the intended sacrifice of Abraham’s sons. But there was a time when the belief that it was Isaac was the dominant position. At least 38 companions of the Prophet ﷺ, including ʿUmar, ʿAlī, al-ʿAbbās, Ibn Masʿūd, Abū Mūsā al-Ashʿarī, Abū Hurayrah and Anas b. Mālik, are recorded saying it was Isaac. Al-Qarāfī even quotes Imam Mālik in his _Dhakhīrah_ as saying it was Isaac. And Shaykh ʿAbd al-ʿAzīz al-Lamṭī al-Mālikī, in his poem Qurrat al-Abṣār, says: *وَالْخُلْفُ فِي ثَانِي الذَّبِيحَيْنِ وَرَدْ ؞ فَجُلُّهُمْ إِسْحَاقُ وَهْوَ الْمُعْتَمَدْ* _“Though opinions differ regarding the near-sacrifice, most scholars consider Isaac to be the one, and this is most reliable.”_
The same goes for this issue of whether or not Satan was an angel. The majority opinion-nay, the consensus-today is that he wasn’t. So when someone as learned as Shaykh Abdal Hakim Murad espouses the once-majority position (youtube . com /watch?v=viJc5754IH4&t=4m35s), people attack him in their ignorance. 💡 But Imam al-Qurṭubī al-Mālikī (d. 671/1273) said while commenting on Quran 2:34, “Satan was one of the angels according to the view of *the majority of scholars (كَانَ مِنَ الْمَلَائِكَةِ عَلَى قَوْلِ الْجُمْهُورِ),* including: Ibn ʿAbbās _(for whom the Prophet ﷺ prayed that God would grant him the ability to interpret the Quran),_ Ibn Masʿūd, Ibn Jurayj, Saʿīd b. al-Musayyib _(the prominent Medinan successor)_ and Qatādah, among others. This was the view preferred by Shaykh Abū l-Ḥasan al-Ashʿarī, Shaykh Muwaffaq al-Din Ibn Qudāmah al-Ḥanbalī, and the leading Mālikī scholars (أَئِمَّة الْمَالِكِيَّةِ). It was given preference _(rajjaḥahu)_ by al-Ṭabarī and is the most obvious interpretation of the verse _(ẓāhir al-āyah).”_ (Al-Qurṭubī, _al-Jāmiʾ li-Aḥkam al-Qur’ān,_ 1:294.) He then quotes Ibn ʿAbbās as saying he was one of the noblest angels who was cursed and transformed into a demon _(shayṭān)_ when he defied God; and Ibn ʿAbbās’ student Saʿīd b. Jubayr as saying, “The _jinn_ were a subspecies of angels who were created from fire _(nār),_ and _Iblīs_ was one of them. The rest of the angels were created from light _(nūr).”_ Ibn ʿAbbās said the same, as quoted by al-Ṭabarī: “All the angels except this tribal group were created from light.” Al-Qurṭubī also cites al-Māwardī as narrating that Qatādah said, “Satan belonged to the best group of the angels, who were called _al-jinnah.”_ 📌 Likewise, the Shāfiʿī traditionist and Quranic commentator, Imam al-Baghawī (d. 516/1122), dubbed “the Reviver of the Sunna,” said, “They differed about Satan: *Ibn ʿAbbās and most Quranic exegetes (وَأَكْثَرُ الْمُفَسِّرِينَ)* said that _Iblīs_ was one of the angels. Al-Ḥasan al-Baṣrī said he was never one of the angels... The former is the soundest view *(وَالْأَوَّلُ أَصَحُّ)* because those who were addressed with the command to prostrate were the angels _(Also, al-Ṭabarī quoted Ibn ʿAbbās as saying, _*_لَوْ لَمْ يَكُنْ مِنَ الْمَلَائِكَةِ لَمْ يُؤْمَرْ بِالسُّجُودِ_*_ “Had he not been one of the angels, he wouldn’t have been ordered to prostrate!”-Tafsīr al-Ṭabarī, __1:53__8)._ According to Ibn ʿAbbās, God’s statement, _“He was one of the _*_‘jinn’ [guardian-treasurers of jannah]”_* (18:50) means: “he was one of the angelic keepers _(khazana)_ of heaven *_(al-jinān,_*_ lit. 'the hidden gardens’).”_ So, Ibn ʿAbbās continued, _al-jinn_ here is in reference to his overseeing or belonging to _al-Jannah,_ “just as a person from Mecca _(Makkah)_ is referred to as a Meccan _(Makkī),_ a person from Medina is called a Medinan (Madanī), a person from Basra is called a Basran _(Baṣrī),_ and one from Kufa is called a Kufan _(Kūfī)”_ (Ṭabarī, 15:289). The legendary scholar Saʿīd b. Jubayr commented on this verse, saying, مِنَ الَّذِين يَعْمَلُونَ فِي الْجَنَّةِ “He was one of those who worked in the hidden garden *_(al-jannah).”_* It was also said that a group of angels were made of fire and were called _jinn_ (lit. ‘the hidden creatures’) because they were hidden from all eyes, and _Iblīs_ was one of them. The proof for this is God’s statement, “They say there is a relationship between Him and the _jinnah.”_ (37:158) This was in reference to Quraysh’s claim that the angels were God’s daughters. So God called the angels here _jinnah,_ because they are invisible beings. (With regard to Satan’s progeny,) when God expelled him from the angels, He allowed him to have offspring.” (Al-Baghawī, _Maʿālim al-Tanzīl,_ 1:81-2.)
📌 The leader of the exegetes Imam al-Ṭabarī (d. 310/923) strongly defended this view and responded to those who problematized it: 1) the _jinn_ are a species or tribe *(حَيّ)* of angels and are not of a different nature. Why are they called _jinn?_ It is because they are hidden _(ijtanna)_ from the eyes of men _(Ṭabarī says: According to Ibn Ḥumayd-Salamah-Muḥammad b. Isḥāq, “The Arabs used to say, _*_مَا الْجِنُّ إِلَّا كُلُّ مَا اجْتَنَّ فَلَمْ يُرَ_*_ ‘al-jinn simply refers to all beings that are hidden and cannot be seen.’” So, Ṭabarī goes on, when God says, “save Iblīs, who was one of the jinn,” it means: he was one of the angels because the angels are hidden (ijtannū) and can’t be seen);_ 2) impeccability should not be attributed to all angels, for that is the particular virtue *only* of the guardians _(khazana)_ of the fires of hell _(nīrān)._ The guardian-treasurers _(khazana)_ of Paradise, Iblīs included, are thus capable of sin; 3) the objection that _jinn_ are distinct because they are created from fire, whereas angels are spiritual beings created from wind or light, is not fully justified. No one disputes that angels are created of light; however the difference between fire *_(nār)_* and light *_(nūr)_* is negligible, if there is any essential difference at all. In the same way, the evidence for the claim that _jinn_ eat and drink is not conclusive. There is contrary evidence indicating that they are spiritual beings who at best have the ability to smell, but not to eat or drink; (4) and finally, the argument based on God’s choosing angels to be His messengers (Quran 35:1) is not wholly accurate, for another verse of the Word of God reads: “God chooses messengers from among the angels and from among men” (Quran 22:75). To conclude that those particular angels and men whom God elects as messengers are truthful and obedient is in accord with revelation. However, to assert that the messengerhood of a few men and angels implies the necessary impeccability of *all* is beyond reason. The history of man is proof.
abdelbaasit1 thank you, but if he was an angel according to them? How do they explain his disobedience?
@@cpd7172 np 🙏🏼 ☝🏼 _“2) impeccability shouldn’t be attributed to all angels, for that is the particular virtue only of the keepers (khazana) of the fires of hell (nīrān). The khazana of Paradise, Iblīs included, are thus capable of sin.”_ This is one of many responses in al-Ṭabarsī’s _Majmaʾ al-Bayān_ (1:164); he actually has a pretty good discussion on this issue under Qur’ān *2:34* (1:162-165). So does Imam al-Ṭabarī in his _Jāmiʾ al-Bayān_ (1:535-543) under the same verse, and again under Qur’ān *18:50* in _Sūrat al-Kahf_ (15:286-290). 👉🏼 What it really comes down to is this: what is the unequivocal, indisputable scriptural proof that *all* angels can do no wrong? I can only think of 3 verses. 🤔 First, the most famous, oft-quoted verse (66:6), which is the most explicit of these three verses, as in, it’s the only one that actually says, *_“they don’t disobey God,”_* is actually specifically talking about the angelic gaolers of hell: عَلَيْهَا مَلَآئِكَةٌ غِلَاظٌ شِدَادٌ لَّا يَعْصُونَ اللهَ مَآ أَمَرَهُمْ وَيَفْعَلُونَ مَا يُؤْمَرُونَ _“a fire...over which are stern, severe angels who do not refuse what God orders them, doing what they are instructed.”_ This is the most popular verse people like to quote to say ‘angels can’t sin’-thinking somehow they’ve proven their case beyond a shadow of a doubt. Ignoring the fact that this verse is talking about a specific group of angels, who are stern, severe and uncompromising _(which makes sense, because they’re guarding hell after all)._ Ignoring that fact, *can’t* is _an_ interpretation of the text-it’s not explicitly stated. The verse could just as easily mean, *don’t* or *won’t,* i.e. it’s not in their nature to disobey God, not that they are literally _incapable_ of sin. 🔎 But now the two remaining verses, *16:49**-50* _(“All in the heavens and all on earth bow to God, from animals to angels, without being proud; they are in awe of their Lord above them, and they do what they are directed.”)_ and *21:26**-27* _(“Yet they say, “The Benevolent One has begotten a son” (‘walad’ can also mean ‘offspring;’ so it could be rendered: “has taken offspring for Himself”-which may be more appropriate here, as this verse is said to have been revealed in response to the Meccan polytheists’ claim that the angels were God’s daughters, though the word ‘angels’ isn’t actually mentioned in these verses). Transcendent is God! No! They’re only honored servants: they do not speak before God, and it is on God’s orders that they act.”)_
Regarding *16:49**-50,* the verses aren’t specifically describing heavenly creatures (angels) but earthly creatures (animals) as well. _‘Dābbah’_ is generally any living creature which keeps its body horizontal as it moves. So the leading exegete al-Ṭabarī says, _“God, exalted is His Remembrance, is saying here: These angels who are in heaven, and these animals on earth, fear that their Lord above them will punish them _*_if they disobey His command_*_ (in ʿaṣaw amrahū). “They do what they’re directed,” meaning: they therefore give God what is His due and avoid/sidestep His wrath [fa-yu‘addūna ḥuqūqa-hū wa yajtanibūna sakhaṭahū]”_ (Jāmiʾ, 14:246). 💡 Why would they fear that He’ll punish them if they disobey His command if they were robots, incapable of sin? And why would they have to avoid God‘s wrath if they were incapable of earning it? Again, the other side has their interpretation of this verse...that‘s fine. This is an equally valid interpretation. 📌 Finally, *21:26**-27,* and I would actually add v. 29 into this as well (since vv. 26-29 are all connected): *1)* “Angels” _(malā’ikah)_ aren’t explicitly mentioned anywhere in these verses, but that is the predominant interpretation of this passage. *2)* God could be describing them in general; these are honored, heavenly creatures that don’t speak before I do, that act by My command, that only intercede for those I approve, etc. This is how the countless zillions of angels are _(a single exception doesn‘t negate this general description)._ *But look what God says in the very next verse!* _“And if _*_anyone of them_*_ says, “I am a god with no other,” that We reward with hell. That’s how We repay those who do wrong.”_ 🤯 Hold up. So the question now is: is this passage talking about angels or is it not?? If it isn‘t, the first half (26-27) is irrelevant to our discussion; if it is, which it seems to be, then this last verse (29) poses a problem for those who think angels can do no wrong...because apparently God says they can! 👉🏼 Imam al-Ṭabarī quotes the great successor to the Prophet’s Companions and authority in Qur’ānic commentary, Qatādah b. Diʿāmah, as commenting on this verse *(**21:29**)* as follows: _“This verse (was revealed) specifically for Iblīs, the enemy of God, when he said what he said, may God curse him and have him stoned!”_ Similarly, Ibn Jurayj commented thus: _“Whichever angel says: “I am a god with no other” calls to worship of himself, and only Iblīs said that. Thus, this verse was revealed with reference to Iblīs.”_ So Ṭabarī has no problem with this verse; he says it means وَمَنْ يَقُلْ مِنَ الْملَائِكَةِ إِنِّي إِلَهٌ مِنْ دُونِ اللهِ ‘if any of the angels blaspheme in this way.‘ *Imam al-Qurṭubī* says: وَهَذَا دَلِيلٌ عَلَى أَنَّهُمْ وَإِنْ أَكْرَمُوا بِالْعِصْمَةِ فَهُمْ مُتَعَبِّدُونَ، وَلَيْسُوا مُضْطَرِّينَ إِلَى الْعِبَادَةِ كَمَا ظَنَّهُ بَعْضُ الْجُهَّال “This verse is proof that, although the angels were honored with protection [from sin], they had to devote themselves to worship [make themselves servants of God]; they weren’t involuntarily made to worship and be servants, as some ignorant folk assume.” In his Quranic commentary, Muḥyi ’s-Sunnah al-Baghawī also has no problem accepting that this was about Satan. Ibn Kathīr, who didn’t believe Satan was an angel, said this about the verse, وَهَذَا شَرْطٌ، وَالشَّرْطُ لَا يَلْزَمُ وُقُوعُهُ “This verse is conditional, and a conditional statement doesn‘t have to happen.” So in Ibn Kathīr‘s view, this never happened (no angel ever said...). But whether or not it *happened* is beside the point. He ignores the fact that God saying it _could_ happen makes it a possibility. It‘s not about whether or not it *‘has* to happen‘; it‘s about *‘can* it happen?‘ *Is it possible or impossible for an angel to claim Divine Authority?* If it’s impossible, what’s the point of this verse? But the verse clearly suggests it‘s a possibility (regardless of whether or not it ever happened). So this undermines the belief that angels are incapable of sin.
@@cpd7172 Besides the above three verses, the only other Qur’ānic verse I can think of that addresses this point is *4:17**2;* but it specifically says “the intimate angels,” the ones drawn near (to God) _[al-malā’ikah al-muqarrabūn]._ The verse reads: _“The Messiah is not too proud to be a servant of God, nor are the intimate angels.”_ 😬 I apologize for making this so long, but one final point to keep in mind: these scholars who held this view distinguished between all of the angels whom the Prophet ﷺ described as having been created from light _(to whom Satan did _*_not_*_ belong)_ and this subcategory _(ḥayy)_ of angels that were created from the fire of a penetrating wind _(simoom)._ 📍 In fact, the verse that mentions this *(**15:27**)* was said to specifically refer to Satan’s creation: وَالْجَآنَّ خَلَقْنَاهُ مِن قَبْلُ مِن نَّارِ السَّمُومِ “As for the _jānn,_ We created him earlier, from the fire of simoom _(the wind know as simoom presumably received its name from the Qur’ānic usage of samūm in connection with fire).”_ Imam al-Ṭabarī, Qatādah and al-Ḥasan al-Baṣrī, among others, said this is talking about Satan’s creation. 📍 This tribe of angelic beings was called _al-Jinn_ because they were treasurers or keepers of _al-Jannah_ (lit. the hidden garden, i.e. paradise), as Ibn ʿAbbās and his disciple Saʿīd b. Jubayr stated. So some may argue that, while angels are generally protected from sin, this tribal group was able to sin, unlike their light-created counterpart. While commenting on Qur’ān *15:27**,* al-Ṭabarī quotes Ibn ʿAbbās as saying, كَانَ إِبْلِيسُ مِنْ حَيٍّ مِنْ أَحْيَاءِ الْمَلَائِكَةِ يُقَالُ لَهُمُ الْجِنُّ، خُلِقُوا مِنْ نَارِ السَّمُومِ مِنْ بَيْنِ الْمَلَائِكَةِ. وَخُلِقَتِ الْجِنُّ الَّذِينَ ذُكِرُوا فِي الْقُرْآنِ مِنْ مَارِجٍ مِنْ نَارٍ _“Iblīs_ belonged to a tribal group of angels called _jinn._ Among the angels it was they who were created from the fire of a scorching wind _(simoom)._ By contrast, the (genus of) jinn (sprites, “genies”) mentioned in the Qur’ān were created “from a bright flame or mixture _(mārij)_ of fire” *(**55:15**).”*
So, it _could_ be said that the light-created angels were impeccable whereas this group was not. God alone knows! Al-Ṭabarī says: “The justification of those who opine that Satan was not one of the angels is that God said in His book that He created Satan from the fire of a penetrating wind...but didn’t say that He created the angels from any of that, and that God said that he was one of the _jinn._ They further say that it is thus impermissible to link him to that which God didn’t link him. Moreover, they say that Satan had descendants, which angels can’t have. [Ṭabarī responds] The justifications these people present only reveal their weak cognitive skills. That’s because it isn’t far-fetched or implausible/objectionable _(mustankar)_ that God created the vast array of His angels in various kinds/species; so some He created from light, others from fire, and yet others from whatever else He wished. The fact that God didn’t tell us what He created His angels from, but told us what He created Satan from, doesn’t necessitate that Satan wasn’t one of them, as it is quite possible _(jā’iz)_ that God created one kind of His angels from fire, and Satan was one of them, or that God singled Satan out from all the angels by creating him from the fire of simoom. Likewise, he isn’t disqualified from being one of the angels because he had offspring, as God put appetite and lust, which was removed from the rest of the angels, within him because of what God intended for him of disobedience. As for God saying that he was one of the _jinn_ (lit. ‘unseen beings’), it isn’t unprecedented for anything that is hidden _(ijtanna)_ from the eyes to be called _jinn,_ as we previously cited in al-Aʾshā’s poetry; thus, Satan and the angels would be included in them due to their invisibility _(ijtinān)_ to the human eye.”
It’s also interesting that many early Muslim scholars, including Companions of the Prophet like Ibn ʿAbbās, Ibn Masʿūd, ʿAlī and Ibn ʿUmar, believed that the two angels mentioned in Qur’ān *2:10**2,* Hārūt and Mārūt, committed disobedience when they were tested by God _(see Ṭabarī’s commentary on this verse for the full reports)._ Imam Ibn al-Qayyim says on p. 172 of his book _The Path of the Two Migrations,_ “Some of the forebears said *_(qad qāla baʾḍ al-salaf),_* ‘After God rebuked the angels for saying, _‘Are You going to place on earth those who will sow corruption therein and shed blood?’_ *(**2:30**)* and put Hārūt and Mārūt to the test _(imtaḥana Hārūta wa Mārūt),_ the angels began to ask forgiveness for the children of Adam and pray for them (جَعَلَتِ الْمَلَائِكَةُ بَعْدَ ذَلِكَ تَسْتَغْفِرُ لِبَنِي آدَمَ وَيَدْعُونَ اللهَ لَهُمْ).’” Why? Ibn al-Qayyim remarks, “When you realize that others slip up and have shortcomings just as *you* do (يُصَابُونَ بِمِثْلِ مَا أُصِيبَ بِهِ), and that they need exactly what you need (i.e. God’s mercy), you start to behave kindly towards them and pray for them.” So the angels were taught this lesson through two of their own. ✌🏼
You say iblis was an angel? Doesn’t surah al kahf say he was from the jinn?
@@mcrespo6813 reread (or read for the first time because I assume you haven't already) my first comment; you will find the answer to your question there 😉 or if you can read Arabic, go to Tabari's exegesis, Baghawi's, Qurtubi's, etc., and you will see this issue discussed in more detail.
Wallahi bro, the jinn are very real. The can do many things we are told by the atheists not to believe.
No. There is no such thing as Jinn possession. The so called evidence scholars use in the Qur’an is abit of a stretch and the Hadith they quote is daif.
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Fahd "people get really offended" because you speak without adab.
Mumodou " please learn the difference between PORT of call and point of call"
Briggs and Faysel are on point for the most part though you can tell they lack exposure to this reality.
Fahd if you actually want to go see the effect of possession there are places you can go and witness it. Maybe you should make more effort.
Go and ask the shuyukh of tassawuf.
Possession isnt supernatural it is science, and a tune of the natural world.
And fahd evil eye is the projection of inner malice it can be given despite what you say.
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Yes, it is possible for jinn to possess humans. Allah says in His Book (Interpretation of the meaning):
“Those who eat riba [usury] will not stand (on the Day of Resurrection) except like the standing of a person beaten by shaytan leading him to insanity.” [2:275]
See also the answers to questions no. 11447, 42073, 39214 and 1819.
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
The fact that a jinni may enter the body of a human is proven by the consensus of the imams of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jama’ah (the larger body of Muslims who are upon the prophetic traditions).
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What are you talking about? Lol
Ok I get the other dudes being ignorant but Briggs is supposed to be knowledgable about faith. Disappointed.
Every human Bashr is born with a Qareen which is a jin n and it flows through your blood. Quran
@Demb elz Just do a quran subject search
*First,* the _“flows through your blood”_ thing ain’t in the Quran. It just isn’t-I’ve memorized the Good Book, trust me, not there. *Second,* there’s *nothing* in the Quran about being “born with” a _qarīn_ or whatever. That’s simply untrue. Again, I know the Quran by heart-it’s not there. *Third,* the idea of a _qarīn_ *is* mentioned, but *nowhere* does it explicitly say that that ‘qarīn’ (which simply means ‘companion’) is a _jinn_ (sprite). The words _‘jinn’_ and _‘qarīn’_ are never once linked in the Quran.
✋🏼 *Fourth,* by my count, this word occurs *no more than 8 times* in the Qur’ān (once, it’s in the plural form; sometimes it refers to humans, other times to angels, other times to the Devil/Satan himself, and other times to devils _[shayāṭīn],_ who according to the Quran can either be demonic people or demonic spirits-see Quran 6:112). • Here they are:
📌 *2* in _Sūrat Qāf_ (50:23, 27) which is speaking about a scene in the afterlife _(23. _*_“The person’s attendant [qarīn] will say, ‘Here is what I have prepared;’”_*_ (the ‘qarīn’ here may be the angel charged with overseeing the person; the angel will say this when presenting the record of deeds for the reckoning. It _*_could_*_ also refer to the jinn/sprite or satan who is assigned to an evildoer or disbeliever-but all of this is just interpretation; nothing is clearly stated in the actual text) and 27. _*_“His [evil] companion [qarīn] will say, ‘Lord, I did not make him transgress; he had already gone far astray himself.’”)_*_ (this may refer to a demonic person or spirit, as in a satan; but such verses indicate that all human beings bear responsibility for the state of their soul and would not incline to suggestions from Satan, were they not already “far astray”);_
📌 *2* in _Sūrat al-Zukhruf_ (43:36-39) which starts by talking about the state of certain heedless people in this world & then describes a scene in the afterlife *_(“We assign an evil one [shayṭān] as a comrade [qarīn] for whoever turns away from the reminder of the Abundantly Compassionate One: [evil ones] bar people from the right path, even though they may think they are well guided. When such a person comes to Us, he will say [to his comrade], ‘If only you had been as far away from me as east is from west. What an evil comrade!’ [It will be said to them,] ‘You have done wrong. Having partners in punishment will not console you today.’”)_*_ (This doesn’t say _*_everyone_*_ has a devil assigned to them, only that those who turn away from God fall victim to Satan and his minions-and these ‘satanic companions’ can be humans or jinn/sprites);_
📌 *1* in _Fuṣṣilat_ (41:25: *“We’ve appointed, for the disbelievers, companions **_[quranā’, the plural of qarīn]_** who make their past and present seem fair and right to them”)* _(Again, the ‘companions’ that God decrees for deniers of the truth could be the human beings and jinn who lead them astray, both of whom are referred to as “satans” when they suggest evil to others);_
📌 *2* in _al-Nisā’_ (4:38: “Whoever has Satan as his companion _(qarīn)_ has an evil companion (qarīn)!”-the previous verses describe these people as arrogant, boastful, miserly, ungrateful for their blessings, etc. So Satan is the companion of such people);
📌 and *1* in _al-Ṣāffāt_ (37:51: *“A person in paradise will say, ‘I used to have a peer **_[qarīn],_** who would ask me, ‘Are you really one of those who believe all that? When we die and become dust and bones, are we really gonna be judged?’”).* Here, it’s clearly referring to a human being, a skeptical companion the believer had in this world. In verse 55, the believer is shown that person in the midst of hell.
Guy with with big beard is lost. Ayn us real. It's in hadith the eye is real. It can happen. Hence why we have our protection adhkaar
Well i find it quite funny. You all sit there and speak your opinions when you are not qualified in the religion and are not raqis, but you sit there and say you believe its not real at all when its happended, scholars and raqis tackle it and it has jappened in history.
Jinns are everywhere in exteranl dimensions, why not the sheikh? He is protected with adhkar etc, you are a weak iman (hypothetical) therefore its easy to lead you astray.
@Witness Truth shut up ignorant dumbass