having spent a year in a Byzantine Parish as a Latin Catholic who could not find a Roman rite parish in union with Rome, I love both liturgies when done correctly. With the new Missal coming in English from Rome next advent hopefully we in the USA will again have such beauty. Meantime, both lungs, to paraphrase JPII, are necessary for the Church.
St John Maximovitch, when asked about what style of icon was better, said "I can pray in front of one kind and I can pray in front of another kind of icon." You can sing with an organ, you can sing without an organ. What is important is singing.
Well, the Byzantine Catholic Church as a whole, was started in Constantinopole (currently Instanbul, Turkey). However, each Slavic country does have their own nationality church, but all do follow pretty much the same traditions and same divine liturgy at the end. Sure, some might use different tones, and some slightly different wordings, but all do follow the liturgy from St. John Chrysostom, much like the Orthodox.
Yeah, that's the Latin/Roman Church. The version of the Creed here is based off the Old Church Slavonic language. So you will have different translations. Sure, the Creed might have been translated from Latin into other languages for other Catholic and Orthodox Churches, but the Ruthenian Byzantine version uses Slavonic.
Also, it seems like they omitted that for "political correctness" too, most likely. Listen to a few clips of the Creed from the ACROD (St. George's is a good example), and there I think in their version of the Creed they seem to have the word "men" in there.
Well, heh, just step into St. Josaphat Ukrainian Cathedral if you want a "Latinized" Divine Liturgy (at least their English language ones, can't vouch for the Ukrainian language ones, since I hardly, if ever, attend those). But they do recite half the Divine Liturgy, and I didn't see any incense being used there. Sad stuff to see an Eastern Rite Cathedral have to "Latinize" their service for the English-speaking crowds, though.
What's with all this fretting about "Latinization". I understand that one doesn't want to force traditions upon a liturgy, but I'm slightly offended when people treat a tradition which can be just as beautiful and presents its own unique style of worship like something they'd find in their navel. Nobody is worried about "byzantinizatoin" of Latin parishes. In fact, as a Latin Catholic, I'd love to see more icons and incense, not to mention the priest facing the East and more chanting.
... where does a Byzantine Catholic Parish come from, then? The Ukrainian Catholic Church comes from Ukraine, the Romanian Catholic Church comes from Romania, Byz Cath Church....
having spent a year in a Byzantine Parish as a Latin Catholic who could not find a Roman rite parish in union with Rome, I love both liturgies when done correctly. With the new Missal coming in English from Rome next advent hopefully we in the USA will again have such beauty. Meantime, both lungs, to paraphrase JPII, are necessary for the Church.
St John Maximovitch, when asked about what style of icon was better, said "I can pray in front of one kind and I can pray in front of another kind of icon."
You can sing with an organ, you can sing without an organ. What is important is singing.
Well, the Byzantine Catholic Church as a whole, was started in Constantinopole (currently Instanbul, Turkey). However, each Slavic country does have their own nationality church, but all do follow pretty much the same traditions and same divine liturgy at the end. Sure, some might use different tones, and some slightly different wordings, but all do follow the liturgy from St. John Chrysostom, much like the Orthodox.
Yeah, that's the Latin/Roman Church. The version of the Creed here is based off the Old Church Slavonic language. So you will have different translations. Sure, the Creed might have been translated from Latin into other languages for other Catholic and Orthodox Churches, but the Ruthenian Byzantine version uses Slavonic.
Also, it seems like they omitted that for "political correctness" too, most likely. Listen to a few clips of the Creed from the ACROD (St. George's is a good example), and there I think in their version of the Creed they seem to have the word "men" in there.
Is a Byzantine Catholic parish different from a Ukrainian Catholic parish in anything other than the vernacular?
Why does the Byzantine Catholic Church in Barbeton OH have a organ??
Well, heh, just step into St. Josaphat Ukrainian Cathedral if you want a "Latinized" Divine Liturgy (at least their English language ones, can't vouch for the Ukrainian language ones, since I hardly, if ever, attend those). But they do recite half the Divine Liturgy, and I didn't see any incense being used there. Sad stuff to see an Eastern Rite Cathedral have to "Latinize" their service for the English-speaking crowds, though.
Wouldn't a Pitch Pipe be easier and take up no space?
isn´t it up to choir director?
They use it only during their practice..
What's with all this fretting about "Latinization". I understand that one doesn't want to force traditions upon a liturgy, but I'm slightly offended when people treat a tradition which can be just as beautiful and presents its own unique style of worship like something they'd find in their navel. Nobody is worried about "byzantinizatoin" of Latin parishes. In fact, as a Latin Catholic, I'd love to see more icons and incense, not to mention the priest facing the East and more chanting.
... where does a Byzantine Catholic Parish come from, then? The Ukrainian Catholic Church comes from Ukraine, the Romanian Catholic Church comes from Romania, Byz Cath Church....
They don't have an organ.