Yeah I had also had a moment of "What I think is 20 years ago: Sega Genesis, Super Nintendo" "What 20 years ago was actually like: Gamecube, PS2" A real Boomer Sanae moment. We're getting old.
Oh Colosseum. I adore this game because it's still a unique Pokemon experience all these years later. It's a very divisive title as well as it contains numerous flaws that haven't aged the best. Purifying Shadow Pokemon after The Under is too much of a time sink, and is a total grind if you're attempting to obtain MATTLE Ho-oh. (but to be frank, almost all of the Nintendo-published Gamecube titles had this padding issue. Some way more than others, like The Wind Waker). All you do are battles, which if you're not the biggest fan of, the game will start to feel very repetitive, especially due to the execution of the shadow mechanics. Things like a lack of a move relearner, the very limited roster size before completing the game, and nearly half the TMs and all the HMs missing means you're limited in how you play. But this can also be a positive for some. Instead of seeing Pokemon for what they are in a collective, seeing them for what they could provide in an enclosed vacuum like Colosseum. For example, most people wouldn't give Furret the time of day outside of being an HM slave. But because every battle is doubles and Colosseum lacks field moves, Furret fills an interesting niche that it otherwise couldn't with moves such as Follow Me and Helping Hand being completely useless in a Singles format. The "long" animations, I never found to be a big deal, but I can see why others do especially since newer Pokemon titles have streamlined many aspects of Pokemon's combat. I think the main reason why people complain about the long animations is that saves are limited in areas in Colosseum unlike nearly other other title where you can save where ever you want. XD Gale of Darkness is a sequel most people prefer and you might too as it improves on Colosseum in nearly everyway. I feel Colosseum could go for a QoL ROMhack since everything is receiving something like that these days. The QoL could do things such as decrease the heart gauge of all shadow pokemon by at least 40%, increase the amount of Pokecoupons you receive from each Mt. Battle area by double, increase the average exp gain by 1.5 so it's like everyone is holding a lucky egg, and have some of the missing TMs accessible such as TM40 Aerial Ace and TM43 secret power.
I am a sucker for good ambient and old school graphics myself, your last 2 videos really resonated with me. You should cover Trails in the Sky since barely anyone talks about how it feels walking in that world.
I think they said that this game was what they were going for, if Pokemon were designed in the style of a JRPG. It was one of my favorites growing up, and I just recently replayed it on the Dolphin emulator. It was still kinda grindy, but still held a good bit of that charm that I enjoyed as a young dude just enjoying Pokemon.
I imagine this would blow your mind if you're a kid and you have a ton of free time. There's so many titles I wish I had as a child just because of the memories I would have now.
I am very glad you decided to try this one, it's one of my fave pokemon games (big part nostalgia and formative experience, big part also how unconventional it is) and it's very cool to see it get the spotlight
"i didn't speak english back then" holy crap you have an amazing grasp of english for a non-native speaker and i've enjoyed going though your video essays!! If you try any other pokemon games, HeartGold and SoulSilver are renound to be the best, and the sprite Mystery Dungeon Series are amazing and more story based for people who prefer traditional RPGs (bring tissues though)
Thank you for watching my stuff! I'm honored people are calling them essays. I largely have my English friends to thank for my grasp on the language, it developed pretty naturally by talking to them over the years. Thanks for the suggestion also! Mabye in the future I'll do a big video where I play a bunch of Pokemon games. I want to try the sequel to Colloseum, Mystery Dungeon, PokéPark, Snap, mostly the weird spin-offs.
@@RubyfallzFr you almost have a perfect accent, I literally didn’t even catch it at first and when you said “I didn’t speak English back then” it completely caught me off guard lmao. You should totally do that video btw, that sounds super interesting. Pokemon side games are kind of a blind spot for me.
Great video. but if you want another pokemon experience then i do think try some of the other games out. this game particular is usually noted as the hardest/most annoying game to play,.
I wouldn't call it the 'hardest' Pretty much every Pokemon game with a Battle Facility automatically makes it harder than Colosseum/Gale of Darkness Really the only challenging part of it is just the final boss and him being really overleveled if you don't grind for hours
People in the comments have been telling me so yeah. I still found it very appealing even thouugh it didn't work for me as a whole. I'll definitly give Pokémon another chance in a future video.
i played pokemon since i was 7 as my main game until i was around 11 and i didnt spoke 1 word of english. For real, english was not required at all if you had 1 friend that could guide you a bit or a game guide/bible back in 2001 when there was no internet (GB color, Pokemon gen 1-2), now imagine with internet (which was your case). Skill gap i would say
Disagree with the 3D models (All Pokemon from the first three generations are in the game with every single Generation 1 & 2 Pokemon having reused animations / models lifted straight from Pokemon Stadium & Pokemon Stadium 2 (Aka 251 reused Pokemon models & animations)) As for the reason why people don't talk about Colosseum / Gale of Darkness? Well, the actual gameplay is pretty meh even by Pokemon standards, people say that the game is hard but it really isn't even if you only know a thing or two about Pokemon The Shadow Pokemon gimmick is cool at the first thought but in Colosseum it's just straight up bad, in Gale of Darkness it is better however You seem like the type of a guy who would much prefer playing other Pokemon spin-offs like Pokemon Snap, New Pokemon Snap, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon & many others Pokemon will never not be a turn-based RPG, it is the franchise's core identity
It's really cool how malleable the Pokémon franchise is. I'm like 100% certain there's a spin-off out there that I'll really like. I just have to find it.
Plenty of franchises have their “core” swapped around over time. The most recent Final Fantasy games decided to go realtime action over turn based, and Yakuza did the opposite, swapping from realtime to turn based with Yakuza 7. You also have less extreme examples like God of War going from a hack n slash style game to a more traditional stamina/timing based game. Monster Hunter did the opposite, going from a slower paced, more methodical style of game to a more traditional action game with World, then went borderline hack n slash with Rise. I’m sure there are plenty of other examples too, but you get my point.
@@CaptainEffort Yes, I do understand that some franchises may change their core gameplay but Pokemon is different. I think they had their chance to change it when it hit 3D but they didn't so the turn bsaed gameplay is here to stay. Competitive Pokemon is also a huge aspect of the games nowadays and most likely the reason why the games will never not be turnbased (even to the point of getting rid of single-player elements so more people would play competitively) If there is be a non turnbased Pokemon game (that's also not a spin-off) then it will most likely be a Legends-styled game since they're treated as experimental projects.
@@anonanonymous9670 Why is Pokemon different? I’m also confused about your second paragraph. How does them not switching during the 3d transition mean that they’ll never switch? I’m not sure how you came to that assumption. And while I can agree with your take on competitive Pokemon, I’d argue that Gamefreak really doesn’t care about it as much as the community does. So if they ever considered switching gameplay styles, I doubt it’d hold them back.
"I wanna try a Pokemon game"
*Gets the expensive one*
And one of the more difficult ones lol
Tiny side note, in Pokémon games, you can in fact check the descriptions of moves mid battle, but only if you check from the stat summary page
I'll keep that in mind next time I play one! Thank you!
I think you'd like Grandia. Something about that artstyle, premise and the music really hits different for me
I've seen footage of that. Insanely good mix of 3D and sprite-art. One day I'll get to it.
When I saw the title, for a second I was like "damn, there was a 3d pokemon game in the 90s"
Yeah I had also had a moment of "What I think is 20 years ago: Sega Genesis, Super Nintendo" "What 20 years ago was actually like: Gamecube, PS2"
A real Boomer Sanae moment. We're getting old.
Oh Colosseum. I adore this game because it's still a unique Pokemon experience all these years later. It's a very divisive title as well as it contains numerous flaws that haven't aged the best.
Purifying Shadow Pokemon after The Under is too much of a time sink, and is a total grind if you're attempting to obtain MATTLE Ho-oh. (but to be frank, almost all of the Nintendo-published Gamecube titles had this padding issue. Some way more than others, like The Wind Waker).
All you do are battles, which if you're not the biggest fan of, the game will start to feel very repetitive, especially due to the execution of the shadow mechanics.
Things like a lack of a move relearner, the very limited roster size before completing the game, and nearly half the TMs and all the HMs missing means you're limited in how you play. But this can also be a positive for some. Instead of seeing Pokemon for what they are in a collective, seeing them for what they could provide in an enclosed vacuum like Colosseum. For example, most people wouldn't give Furret the time of day outside of being an HM slave. But because every battle is doubles and Colosseum lacks field moves, Furret fills an interesting niche that it otherwise couldn't with moves such as Follow Me and Helping Hand being completely useless in a Singles format.
The "long" animations, I never found to be a big deal, but I can see why others do especially since newer Pokemon titles have streamlined many aspects of Pokemon's combat. I think the main reason why people complain about the long animations is that saves are limited in areas in Colosseum unlike nearly other other title where you can save where ever you want.
XD Gale of Darkness is a sequel most people prefer and you might too as it improves on Colosseum in nearly everyway. I feel Colosseum could go for a QoL ROMhack since everything is receiving something like that these days. The QoL could do things such as decrease the heart gauge of all shadow pokemon by at least 40%, increase the amount of Pokecoupons you receive from each Mt. Battle area by double, increase the average exp gain by 1.5 so it's like everyone is holding a lucky egg, and have some of the missing TMs accessible such as TM40 Aerial Ace and TM43 secret power.
I am a sucker for good ambient and old school graphics myself, your last 2 videos really resonated with me. You should cover Trails in the Sky since barely anyone talks about how it feels walking in that world.
Never even heared of that one! I'll put it on my list!
I think they said that this game was what they were going for, if Pokemon were designed in the style of a JRPG.
It was one of my favorites growing up, and I just recently replayed it on the Dolphin emulator. It was still kinda grindy, but still held a good bit of that charm that I enjoyed as a young dude just enjoying Pokemon.
I imagine this would blow your mind if you're a kid and you have a ton of free time. There's so many titles I wish I had as a child just because of the memories I would have now.
peak gamer talks about a peak game
Just binged your channel your vids are so crazy you gotta keep em coming
Thank you! I've been loving working on this channel. More to come!
I am very glad you decided to try this one, it's one of my fave pokemon games (big part nostalgia and formative experience, big part also how unconventional it is) and it's very cool to see it get the spotlight
Yeah it's a super cool game! Creative, unique and well made. I'm glad I gave it a shot.
Awesome channel man, just binge watched all your videos!
Thank you for spending so much time with my videos. I'm glad you enjoyed them!
It’s a shame that the legends games are probably given more attention than the gen games.
Man... I am so out of touch with modern Pokemon I have no idea what any of these words mean lmao.
@@Rubyfallz good keep your innocence the first Pokémon game I legitimately owned was shield as you can tell by my profile picture.
Scorbunny is pretty great. Love a funny looking guy.
"i didn't speak english back then" holy crap you have an amazing grasp of english for a non-native speaker and i've enjoyed going though your video essays!!
If you try any other pokemon games, HeartGold and SoulSilver are renound to be the best, and the sprite Mystery Dungeon Series are amazing and more story based for people who prefer traditional RPGs (bring tissues though)
Thank you for watching my stuff! I'm honored people are calling them essays. I largely have my English friends to thank for my grasp on the language, it developed pretty naturally by talking to them over the years. Thanks for the suggestion also! Mabye in the future I'll do a big video where I play a bunch of Pokemon games. I want to try the sequel to Colloseum, Mystery Dungeon, PokéPark, Snap, mostly the weird spin-offs.
@@RubyfallzFr you almost have a perfect accent, I literally didn’t even catch it at first and when you said “I didn’t speak English back then” it completely caught me off guard lmao.
You should totally do that video btw, that sounds super interesting. Pokemon side games are kind of a blind spot for me.
it was pretty of its time, the newer ones are just far behind the times now
you can check a move in battle
Oh gosh... ALL the games you talked aboit about being your favorite kind of game I wouldn't tocuh with a ten foot pole...
I cannot explain in words how hard this comment made me laugh.
video was great. I recommend trying pokemon arceues on the switch. It's not like the traditional games and its pretty great
...any chance we could get that game the music is from in English phonetics?
Of course! It's Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner. The game has never been translated unfortunately, but the soundtrack is great.
@@Rubyfallz so dang good. Thanks for sharing!
respect
Great video.
but if you want another pokemon experience then i do think try some of the other games out. this game particular is usually noted as the hardest/most annoying game to play,.
I wouldn't call it the 'hardest'
Pretty much every Pokemon game with a Battle Facility automatically makes it harder than Colosseum/Gale of Darkness
Really the only challenging part of it is just the final boss and him being really overleveled if you don't grind for hours
People in the comments have been telling me so yeah. I still found it very appealing even thouugh it didn't work for me as a whole. I'll definitly give Pokémon another chance in a future video.
i played pokemon since i was 7 as my main game until i was around 11 and i didnt spoke 1 word of english. For real, english was not required at all if you had 1 friend that could guide you a bit or a game guide/bible back in 2001 when there was no internet (GB color, Pokemon gen 1-2), now imagine with internet (which was your case). Skill gap i would say
Try Scarlet, it’s faster and more modern , also it looks ugly as sin
So funny that the new one looks worse than the one from two decades ago.
If you didn’t like this you’d definitely like Arthur’s Reading Race
Tried it. Combat was too hard.
Disagree with the 3D models (All Pokemon from the first three generations are in the game with every single Generation 1 & 2 Pokemon having reused animations / models lifted straight from Pokemon Stadium & Pokemon Stadium 2 (Aka 251 reused Pokemon models & animations))
As for the reason why people don't talk about Colosseum / Gale of Darkness?
Well, the actual gameplay is pretty meh even by Pokemon standards, people say that the game is hard but it really isn't even if you only know a thing or two about Pokemon
The Shadow Pokemon gimmick is cool at the first thought but in Colosseum it's just straight up bad, in Gale of Darkness it is better however
You seem like the type of a guy who would much prefer playing other Pokemon spin-offs like Pokemon Snap, New Pokemon Snap, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon & many others
Pokemon will never not be a turn-based RPG, it is the franchise's core identity
It's really cool how malleable the Pokémon franchise is. I'm like 100% certain there's a spin-off out there that I'll really like. I just have to find it.
Plenty of franchises have their “core” swapped around over time. The most recent Final Fantasy games decided to go realtime action over turn based, and Yakuza did the opposite, swapping from realtime to turn based with Yakuza 7.
You also have less extreme examples like God of War going from a hack n slash style game to a more traditional stamina/timing based game. Monster Hunter did the opposite, going from a slower paced, more methodical style of game to a more traditional action game with World, then went borderline hack n slash with Rise.
I’m sure there are plenty of other examples too, but you get my point.
@@CaptainEffort Yes, I do understand that some franchises may change their core gameplay but Pokemon is different.
I think they had their chance to change it when it hit 3D but they didn't so the turn bsaed gameplay is here to stay.
Competitive Pokemon is also a huge aspect of the games nowadays and most likely the reason why the games will never not be turnbased (even to the point of getting rid of single-player elements so more people would play competitively)
If there is be a non turnbased Pokemon game (that's also not a spin-off) then it will most likely be a Legends-styled game since they're treated as experimental projects.
@@anonanonymous9670 Why is Pokemon different?
I’m also confused about your second paragraph. How does them not switching during the 3d transition mean that they’ll never switch? I’m not sure how you came to that assumption.
And while I can agree with your take on competitive Pokemon, I’d argue that Gamefreak really doesn’t care about it as much as the community does. So if they ever considered switching gameplay styles, I doubt it’d hold them back.