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No, no No! Zeos, don't use a pillow case to 'protect' your L700s from dust. That will do the exact opposite. Those of us who have been engine builders know you never use any cloth material to cover your critical parts during a rebuild, because cloth gathers and holds dust (and other foreign matter) and gets more as you move it around. Always use paper or plastic (bags in your case).
Haha brick walls on ear go brrr
Loooooool we have the same pb
These are around 145 000 Ohms. I don’t think my iPhone can drive these.
Yeah, still not sure though
Also because no phone has an energizer
ExtremeGamer Not... yet. Lol
Try an LG!
@@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive It has a quad DAC, not Amp. The LG isn't much more powerful than a normal phone, it just sounds as clean as a higher end amp.
"I will never get into Bonsai trees, too much stress"
-Zeos, during the 2020 Pandemic
I know of at least one sound engineer at Olympic studios in London who used Stax headphones. So in answer to your question it's entirely possible that some artists have heard their music through Stax. Bear in mind this was the 1980s though.
But to be honest even Stax isn't being in the room with the instrument. I guess that answers the question of "did the artist ever hear their own music". Yes, every time they played it.
Almost fell off my house car when you said how much voltage is flowing through them!
Voltage doesn't do much without amperage to back it up.
@@CockatooDude it's more because it can kill you lmao
@@benis9965 It cannot kill you without the amperage to let it properly flow through your body. Your skin is a very good insulator so even a very high voltage signal will not harm you if it is just purely voltage. If you've ever seen a Van Der Graaf generator, those produce upwards of 100,000 volts but you can touch them just fine.
Contrary to Popular belief. amperage or flow of current is what kills you and not voltage, but they need each other. Voltage is there to open the door for current to get in. (above 50V AC or 100VDC is the start of the dangerous breakthrough point for human bodies, current then freely flows as much as can be supplied by your output power affecting mostly your own human electrical system I.e the pulse signals beating your heart) and at 580V that door is so wide open but fortunately there's almost no current flowing in your body in this case because the amp is highly current limited, but only on the amp's output! but if you open up the amp and start fiddling around with the innards, that's another story.
@@harris0254 you're not totally right, because at 580 volts the current is high no matter what, for a fixed resistance of course. If the voltage is high the current is high and there's no way to limit it without changing the resistance.
Z is a bit of a car guy I see. What he said in the beginning was spot on.
Also, his perfect German pronunciation came out of left field
Never expected to hear Z say Koenigsegg!
@@AR0ACE RIGHT??????? Touche
Hi Zeos,
I got my first Stax Earspeakers in 1982 and they were the SR-5’s with an SRD-6 Energisers, it was my twenty first birthday present and the best present I’ve ever been given. They are used every day and still work as good as the day I got them. I also purchased some SRX MkIII’s with SRD -7 energisers which are different, but not better. Two years ago I purchased a set of the Stax L300 Limited 80 Anniversary Edition which are great and on par with your L700’s. These are hooked up to a SRM-1 MkII professional Stax amplifier which sounds fantastic. I still love my SR-5s hooked up to my Vacuumstate FVP5 preamplifier, Wyred4Sound dac and ice power - power amplifier, it’s just magic. I’ve never looked at another headphone since. Other than my Edifier W860NB ANC headphones for travelling. They are pretty ordinary in comparison. Love your work and cat,
says a lot about the build quality if they are still working, they also need to be plastic so they don't kill you as far as I can tell, im not bothered by it
Benis Hi Benin’s, The SR-5 and SRX Mark 3’s are all metal and there is no plastic on the head bands. As much as I love my newer L100 Limited Editions I am somewhat disappointed by build quality, but this has always been the way with Lamda’s until now with the newest L700s which have metal head bands. I cannot tell you how good my oldest SR-5’s are when paired with the right electronics. These will out live me.
Excellent build quality of those older Stax models for sure. I own a pair of the SRL-700s and still use an old pair of SRX Mk3s when listening on my stereo setup in the living room. The 700s live by my computer and perfectly integrate with the more pure digital sources and higher end recording/processing/interfacing gear I use. I love them dearly and understand their well-refined and resolving nature will be best there. BUT those Mk3s... despite them struggling with bass, when you find the right sounding amp to feed them, they do something special that I don't get from the 700s or any other headphone. It's as if there are some subtleties throughout the mids and highs that come out and reveal new detail in an analytically mind-boggling way. They definitely shine when plugged into a decent old-school stereo integrated amp with the classic bass/mid/treble settings and phono stage stuff. I use an old Rotel RA-1412 to drive my living room setup, and you can easily get the bass sounding good enough on the Mk3s with the right settings. It's like any other headphone would reveal diminishing returns and often sound rolled off in the highs from such amps, but the Mk3s were born and raised for that shit and will happily serve you the extra detail and higher frequencies with a side of the finest chicken momo just because it's cool like that.@@paulpavlou9294
Capitol Studios used Lambda Professionals to engineer from the 80s until about 2001.
Which is why old Capitol Studios albums sound amazing by the way.
Damn!!! Just got my L700-II and D50 combo, no audition whatsoever! And I love it - the sound is nothing short of incredible! I'm a kind of basshead, and L700 is quite bass-light... but guess what, IDGAF! That sounds surreal, thank you, Zeos!!!
What about a lower quality source like a CZcams music video?
Is that type of thing better or worse? (because you can hear the flaws)
@@dialecticalmonist3405 probably it depends on the music itself - some synthetic genres may sound the same, flac or 128 kB/s.
I wouldn't use Stax for CZcams - IMO, it's like fitting 13" wheels on a Ferrari 🙂
Stax really shine with acoustic music, where the sound compression is most audible - so feed some hi-res and enjoy!
I got my first Stax SR-5’s with SRD-6 energiser in 1981 and use them every since. I also have the SRX-Mk3, Lambda Professional pro’s and my SR L300 Limited Editions running off a SRM-1/Mk-2 Professional which is as good as I want. I couldn’t use anything else at home. Using a SRD-6 or 7 with older Stax ear speakers and a good amp with DAC with a good amp will sound better than anything new for 2 or 3 times the price.
I like how he just has a herman Miller chair holding his phone and a tshirt...hard flex
You have to try this headphone. I tried a lot of headphone since i have the L700MK2 : Heddphone, Arya, Abyss Diana Phi, ATH-ADX-5000, My sphere 3… So much clarity, speed and sound stage… I use it with Stax D-50 amp/dac really great combo.
15:36 is the funniest interaction for some reason
Hey Z, you should try the RR1 conquest. An Estat from India. It's so far leagues above my L300s. Never heard the L700s but some have said they like the RR1s more. It'll be interesting since they are only 500$.
HA HA!! YES, I am special with same day viewing of the awaited youtube processed, MKII STAX l-700 Z-REVIEW!!!!! Lets-GO!!!
Imagine a massdrop stax
Imagine a massdrop HE1
@@sicebae4988 Sennheiser HE-x $49,000 take it or leave it
They have a koss elctrostat system
@@Zack-pl9np ye but I mean an affordable modern stax
My kidney is ready.
You mean you still have some?
How lucky
I don't advise to sell your kidney for $3000.
@@nataflet Nothing is better than a well cooked kidney.
ear your words about stax and you sound like a little boi talking with alot of emotion and excitement, this make me know there´re my next headspeakers
Stax driver capsule is entirely airtight, I believe.
That would explain channel imbalance after old accident.
Put 3M magic tape over the baffle hole for bass seal and stax fart.
24:27 ABYSS AB-1266 Phi TC reference
"House Car", just made me day! @27:49
Edifier does have great sound quality, so, probably Eidifer Influence. Wouldn't be surprised if they came out with an actual nice looking stax soon. Followed shortly by an actualy cheap Stax
Yeah I have the 95X. Though think I need to send them to get cleaned out and repaired as the wire seems to have gotten lose on the Y split and the channels on the amp seem to have slowly gotten really badly imbalanced as time has gone on. Now they don't raise in volume at the same speed anymore which is pretty annoying. Good thing Koss has a life time waranty so all I have to do is pay shipping and done. Heard some people say they will even replace the wire if you didn't even ask for it and they always clean them out as really they are the only ones who can.
Great description of the different types of headphones!
Will we see a review of the Dan Clark Voce anytime soon after moving?
Seeing the gold flux amp is sexy, I'm getting excited; especially for the FA-10 !!!
Lamborghini has lost its luster since Audi bought them and production numbers are way to high.
The Aventador still has issues unlike a generic Audi, but there is notable improvement over the Diablos and Countach.
I’ve been a Lambo owner for 21 years. Lots of them. But I’m bored now with them. The magic is gone.
Great review! I’ve always wanted Stax and never bought them.
Is it because you've driven them so often or because it appeals less knowing audi/ vw makes them sorta?
V1ralB1ack yes you are spot on with both comments. The Murci was a hybrid car, part Italian and part Austrian (Luk Duckenwalder-spelled wrong) designed the Murci and it was part Audi parts and part Lamborghini parts. Good car tho.
Now the production numbers are so high I see Lambos on the street multiple times a day-SoCal. In 1995 before I had one maybe see one once a month.
Great observation
Wait were you just casually teasing us with a new and updated Chewie review or was that just a joke?
Is the Sennheiser Orpheus really that far above flagships and current electrostatics?
No, they are worse than Stax from the 70s
They're a statement piece that you're not meant to actually listen to. Literally Mackie MC250s are better.
Abyss flagship system is cheaper tha Orpheus and sounds something out of this world, from what I've heard.
Hm, maybe for electrostatic they didn't want conductive metal messing up the electric field in the vicinity of the drivers? Or maybe it doesn't matter, but the choice of plastic clearly wasn't because they were cheap.
Is there a recommended EQ setting for the L700 mk2? Thank you!
Hello, Zeos. I'm very tempted into getting the L700 MK2. Is the SRM-353x energizer still a viable option for the Mk2? I recall you tested the original L700 with that energizer*. I was also planning on upgrading my shitty (or should I say, Schiitty) Modi 2 Uber DAC to a Gungnir Multibit afterwards (or any DAC that has XLR outputs).
*I kinda like it from an aesthetic standpoint, without anything plugged in, it looks like a hog laying on its side.
Another great Z review!!!
Hey Z, have you tried the SR1a or the heddphone? What are your thoughts on them?
So in microphone terms:
Dynamic headphones are dynamic mic,
Planars are ribbons and
Elecrtostatics are condensers?
Looks like someone cut my gpu heatsink in half, painted it black and then glued ear muffs on them
My mixing & mastering monitors...Martin Logan...Electrostatics
I need to buy that some day😍. But first planars😉
Every time I watch Zeos videos it makes me want blow money
Stax bro
Good God, this is one coked-up review. There's valuable information here but it's wedged between shrieks and ADD-fueled whuhs. I love your reviews, Zeos, but this one sounds like your complaint about the LCD-4 and how it's just coming at you like a crazed raccoon. I just wanted to know if it was worth the money and now I think I need a drink.
Yeah I have kids so I’m just watching this to support you.. there’s haha no effing way....
You need a better job XD
Every time I don't want to use condoms I will think of you
Can I wear these while working out with the d10? I like the idea of having God sing to me while I exercise. Worried about damaging them tho
What a stupid question 😂
#StaxBro
For those with knowledge, what genres will NOT work on Stax, im assuming bass music, but these have to have some bass
Electrostatics have bass, I have the 95X, it's just that slam is weak. The bass is there just not planar quality and the slam is almost nonexistent, you more hear the sub bass and the reverb of it and not the initial bang. It's actually kinda odd; I kinda like it. The 95X isn't what I would call base light as I honestly think it sounds about as good as my Ether CX, just the CX has way more slam which Mr. Speakers was never known for anyways. Personally I listen to nearly everything on both headphones. Personally I like EDM more on the 95X as it feels like the song is more filled out while the CX kinda makes it more a blur behind the bass.
I kinda feel everyone trying to explain what electrostatic headphones sound like either go far too in depth on the finer details on what makes them so odd or just give a basic feel of what's wrong like "it's not very bassy". If you are comparing them to planars, no, the planars definitely have more slam but I wouldn't call it that weak bass-wise but if all you care about bass is the slam, yeah it is pretty petty. The best example is the noise you hear in Death Stranding when you use the Q pip. On planars it sounds like you just got slammed by a pressure wave while on the 95X it only sounds like it passed by you as you don't hear the initial impact. It's like comparing an explosion close up to one half a mile away. From that distance it still sounds like an explosion but it more just sounds like the secondary pressure wave not the bang.
Really like some EDM on them and old rock songs from the 70s-early 2000s sound incredible on them, if they are well recorded. Can't say there is much they play bad with other than poorly recorded audio as they are very precise. Turned on 3005 by Childish Gambino to confirm I'm not just crazy about that and yeah the bass is still louder than the vocals. It just doesn't have the slam. Some people might like that and others probably would hate that. It's really personal preference. Just really badly recorded music really stands out as worse than the rest.
I will stress though that the 95X, if you ever get them, take a ton of burn in till they get really good. When I first got them they sounded pretty bright with very little bass but after like 4 months using them with my computer for gaming I came back to music and thought none of my headphones sounded nearly as good. Spacial awareness was the main reason I bought them though as imaging is incredible on them. Considering I got these for $400 on sale I don't regret it. Though was kinda pissed to see it dropped to $350 5 days later. XD
@@Skylancer727 Thanks for all this detail, i was so curious about the Koss but Z is pushing me this route, its a hell of a layout but he just gushes over these... perfect analogies by the way, thanks for taking all that time
@@11clouds yeah after getting the Koss I really intend on getting the L700 mk2 some time as the bass has supposedly lifted as well with the new metal fork a bit and removable cables are a must. I will get them, when I have $3000 just sitting around that is. Maybe next year. Though might just cheap out and get the stax adapter for the 95X amp for a brief time. Then I'll upgrade to their day amp for $1400. Just note the L700 has a really odd sound frequency from what I hear and can see from frequency graphs. Why many go with the 9s instead but I don't have $10K to throw away.
@@11clouds Oh and one more thing. Some people like Max Settings have said they don't like electrostatic headphones as they have a tinny sound to the tamber. I can't say I really agree with him though but it is something I've seen others say as well. It seems to be something people like me and those on R Ear Speakers don't seem to hear though as to me they sound like Z says that there just isn't headphones on my head. To me it always sounded like the audio isn't colored so perhaps it's those people are too used to planars or are just way more bright sensitive?
Not sure as I thought the MSR7s Z gave a fair review to were were too symblent for my taste and really bright basically killing the rest of the range. Hard to say as I really am not hearing what they are, but Max Settings directly said he would take planars over them any day and claimed the Diana's are more what everyone claims Stax are so take that as you will. I think it might just be these people not being used to the headphone being so open as they really are odd first time you put them on. No planar is nearly as open.
Skylancer727 thanks again man, so much detail, definitely will help me make a decision
D10: being shilled for Epos money.
Audiovalve Solaris: am i a joke to you?!
He said it was as good
@Tasunke How much money you pay for something is not always an indication of its performance. If that were the case you would not need reviews, you'd simply buy the most expensive item you could afford.
@Tasunke I always take Z's reviews with a boulder of salt, but I've had several opportunities to audition the Solaris with a bunch of top dog headphones, and I can't say anything other than it was the first amp ever that got my jaw dropping from how it sounds. Most notably with a Susvara. I don't own a Susvara myself, but if I did I'd get a Solaris with it. And I've heard the Susvara on a few more amps, in fact the Solaris was the least expensive amp I've tried yet it still turned out to be the clear winner.
Only amp I've heard that sounded better to me than the Solaris, was a Feliks Audio Euforia. Doesn't have the power for Susvara's (although it drives LCD-4's properly) or Stax output or what have you. It's a purely single-ended OTL amp, which is a great thing, because there are no compromises for more bells and whistles and you don't pay for features you don't need. All the money went into perfecting the single-ended output without using an output transformer. Once I heard it, I bought it almost immediatly lol. I use it with Empyreans, HD 660S and in the near future a ZMF Vérité Closed as well. And I'm not so easily convinced to spend that much money on an amp. For context, my main SS amp is just an Asgard 3 (which I love though), and I still haven't found any solid-state amp at any price that was good enough to make me want to upgrade to it.
@Tasunke Yeah hearing the Empyrean on the Solaris is what convinced me to dive deeper into tubes in the hope to find something less expensive and feature-rich than the Solaris but sounding somewhere in that league. Eventually during my tube auditioning adventures, when I first heard the Euforia I was sold within minutes. Kept listening for like 45 minutes to find any compromises but didn't find any. So that was an easy decision for me.
Actually I've also auditioned the Fidelice Precision alongside the Solaris. For sure a fantastic solid-state AIO, but as with every solid-state I've had the chance to try, it just didn't quite do enough to convince me. The Solaris with the DAC option also costs the same as the Fidelice, and I guess I'm just a sucker for tubes, but yeah it wasn't really a competition there. :P
The industrial fans!
Zeos.. FFS! How does it sound on the Solaris? You talked me into buying one, in person, at Can-Jam.. I haven't tried electrostats with it yet...
wink wink nod nod.... great reference man
I never tried it on phones like these because I believe me I never had the money get is caviar money but I would love to try and eat before my hearing goes away at the age of 55 whenever that happens I would love to try one of these look for real kids birthday Milford de man that's what we asked for Aleve for me I'm glad you got a new one man Elite recovery but whenever you made this video
"Your review's coming later." lol
That shape, FYI Zeos, is called a "stadium". Which... Is a two-dimensional bisection of a capsule. Now you know!
And just maybe... It's shaped like a pill... Because, it's medicine for your ears? Ah hah!!!
Not too shabby
STAX = eargasm right ?
So I have ~700 to spend on new earphones as my 207s are dying. Right now I am considering L500Mk2 (wish i could drop 1400 on L700s), the focal elex, or possibly 660s. I am also open to Other headphones sub 1000. Assuming I have all the amps and stuff already, whats your current recommendation at this price point?
I bet Richard cheese with sound so good on that MK2
Megalobox op is Fire dude
They should've been called "Electrostax"
Review audio technica msr7b pls?
i know its not optimal but would the STAX SRM-252S be abel to drivet this headset?
Go on. Review your Herman Miller Aeron 😉
if you wanna be disapointed get the shp-9600
Oh that's the new modern one, how's the Fidelio x3?
You've heard it?
What’s disappointing about them?
I really like the L700, though not my favorite overall (Aeolus and Ether c 1.1 are still my favourite), I am planning to own one in the future as long as they fix the build further more.
Wait so do Stax have any sort of built in protection like a dust cover from the back of or something??
I think all the Stax do.
PointyFox ayyy thanks
Why not get a Stax SR-50 from 1980 for under 100 bucks and make a comparison video? Would be entertaining :D
31:05 is Pink Floyd recorded very well?
Also, it really is a good wallpaper.
They do have some very interesting songs and albums. I love Dark side of the Moon and Shine on You Crazy Diamond. Also they are available as SACD.
Come on man, are you seriously asking if PINK FLOYD is recorded well? 😂
@@DimIsHigh Pink Floyd is recorded like most of other rock and pop of the era -- not particularly well nor particularly poorly. Instruments and vocals are articulate enough and do not smother one another, but the soundstage is very studio-like. There is more dynamic range than in modern pop/rock recordings, of course. The remastered Dark Side of The Moon can sound a tad strident and aggressive from time to time, probably owing to the remastering and "modernization" of the sound.
@@mechantl0up LMAO … DSOTM is a fucking stereo demo. It is one of the best Mixed and Mastered Albums even today, it’s basically a benchmark of Stereo.
@@LegendaryZ0NE It. was recorded for 4 channels originally. And the remastered version sounds harsh and unnatural.
The detail king got plannar is Susvara
What are the VU meters you have in your rack? Does anybody know?
Hey! I have been searching the internet for a long, awful time. I have watched countless of your episodes on reviews and information about headphones, dacs, and amps. I am new to audio and I am looking for the best bang to the buck headphones for gaming. No no, I have not chosen any Razer or Corsair headphones. I have chosen the TYGR 300R. I have seen that people would prefer to hookup an amp to the headphones. One that they recommend was the hundred dollar Liquid Spark. Due to its 50 ohm output it said to definitely help with deeper bass and fix some of its mid and high range sounds. I am using a pc and I would then need a dac to convert my pc audio to analog for my headphones to work. If you have any suggestions that will not break the bank (no more than 200 for both an amp, dac, or dacamp) than PLEASE reply to me. Thank you so much!
There's quite a bit of good amp/dacs at a low budget. One that is recommended quite a bit are the Schiit Magni and Modi
@@spartanV48 Thank you! I will take a look into them.
@@jacobdavidson2705 Keep in mind, the Magni is an amp and the Modi the dac and they stack on top of each other.
@@jacobdavidson2705 There is also the iFi Zen Dac and/or iFi Zen Can. I believe the iFi Zen DAC can be used as a amp/dac combo, but it is more known for its DAC. I haven't done a ton of research on both of them, but that is another one you could look into.
You sure you're supposed to put those on your head and not make a grilled cheese sammich with it?
Don't be that guy Zeos, it's the voltage that forces the amperage that will kill you. If it's a fixed 600V supply the amperage it delivers it's completely irrelevant as that will adapt to the load due to Ohm's law.
Fixed current supplies don't really exist, as the voltage required to force a current will be too high to produce once the load increases in resistance. They're usually used in electronics, where the numbers involved are very small.
Again, voltage is fixed and that difference in potential energy will kill you, amperage is SUPPLIED as the power consumption adapts to the load.
*laughs in Koss*
Hell yeah brother. I really recommend the dekoni leather pads for them. It gives them a tasteful bit of warmth without destroying anything else that I really enjoy
So let's sum up...
Zeus is creaming his panties about how super fucking hyper bombastic Stax are but then he admits that he has other headphones and he actually hasn't been using his older Stax that often for the past 2 years
Now I am asking myself do I watch this for comedy purposes or what the hell :D
Yeah in seriousness I was confused by this, I mean he says he loves these more than Abyss Phi 1266. Why are you rarely listening to them? I understand that electrostats might not shine with every type of music but still.
We, the people, are still waiting for Chewbacca's review.
higher voltage actually means you can go with a thinner cable
But, resistance means...
Ca-nook audio mart LMFAO
will zeos ever review the beats solo pro? maybe compared to the beats solo2 because the 3 is boring and got no bass lol.
maybe on 1ste of april
Stacks of stax 😂
How do these compare to Blons ?:)
hahahahaha
They don’t
@@ernestoditerribile But you can compare them!
LISTED but the sound signature is really very different. The Blons are really forgiving. But the Stax will sound so much better when you listen to good recordings.
please review the devialet phantom gold
disco garbage
Any potential review of the Raal SR1A'zzzz ??
Waiting for the D50.
Hey Z, how are they for Rock music? ALternative mostly, Nirvana, Darkwave. thank you
So what is your end-game?
Chewbacca review hype
they got the fucking cpu coolers on those cans
Time to try the Raal sr1’s. They will be your new benchmark imo.
I wont front it would had been amazing if you hard cut the video to watch Alton brown
Am I the only one who got fucked up over him saying it was the last sound demo at the apartment...??
washizutan. nice.
Is this better sounding than Hifiman Arya
bruh
bruh
I feel our Furry Queen needs a VET checkup and some special care.
I hope Z will be prepared ... maybe we will get the ANGRY/SAD review series for the popular S#ITTY audio gear out there ... but i hope Z will stay strong.
they look like a medieval instrument of torture
So HD800S is shit compared to these?
They look like 2 heatsinks for your ears
so old stax is the more expensive version of the akg 700 line good but poor build quality
i don't get why would you put pictures of underaged cartoon girls half naked on your screen?
Black is always better.
Yes... But how do they sound when you GAME WITH THEM!!! thats all anyone wantsbto know