Cyclops and Jean Grey's Evil Unwanted Baby | X-Men: X-Cutioner's Song
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- The X-Men story so big, it took four books to contain it! When Cyclops and Phoenix are kidnapped - and Cable seemingly assassinates Professor X - the X-Men, X-Factor and X-Force go to war...with each other! Witness epic battles around the globe and on the moon as Mr. Sinister's subtle plan of vengeance on Apocalypse unfolds, and major revelations are made about the true identities of Cable and his twisted doppelganger Stryfe! Never miss an episode by subscribing today! bit.ly/2WYvgkt #xmen
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29:30 Sal to answer your 8 year old question that I have no doubt still keeps you up at night, the baby in question turns into a mechanical creation in a throwaway panel at the end of the scene, implying it was a ruse all along.
Thank you
This comic had one of my favorite Wolverine moments every: At the Dept H base when they are trying to find records, Wolverine says the records are this way, one of the characters asks him if his mutant powers helped him figure it out and his response is class, "That, and my ability to read." (standing next to sign that says records room).
The X-Cutioner's instrument is a recorder, the most devious of instruments.
"I'm not a biologist, are YOU?!"
Needs to be your next shirt, guys.
"But I know how to get physical."
24:21 The psychic scream is paired with a psychic whisper: "Name a school after me..."
"You are the lesser brother.. And the force field knows"
5:13 "Real actual sex. With penises and everything."
I...I...I don't know if I just learned something new about "Cyclops" or....Madelyne Pryor.
Jeff Batista Scott's not the only thing with one eye if you know what I mean 😉
This to me was what the Clone Saga was for a lot of Spiderman fans. I bought like 3 more issues and then gave up for years. 1) The baby was some type of construct and after they make the "right choice" it...disassembles...or something.2) What pissed me off was that they never come right out and acknowledge that Cable is Nathan Summers. Xavier wakes up and rants about how they're connected, Alex is the only other one to go through the force-field. They focus all on Stryfe being mad and one of them being a clone. Near the end Cyclops says "we had to sacrifice him again" and when Jean says, "Oh no, you don't think?" Scott says they may never know. I knew who Cable was much earlier cause they'd been dropping hints for a while and I thought this arc would just verify and close out that story arc...and they never really did. I just wanted them to say, "Cable is Nathan Summers" and they took me through ALL THOSE ISSUES and didn't just acknowledge it. Stryfe drops slices of bread, not crumbs, and they never say, "Oh our kid that we sent to the future!" I still own all but one of the issues and later bought the trade just to check...and it's still a wild goose chase.
+Amadeo78 I can only imagine how frustrated you felt having to actually buy these and end up with "meh."
+Ben Baragona I just gave up.
Good catch on the baby, I was going to comment on that, but literally the first comment on this video had it.
They didn't drop Uncanny X-Men. that book kept going and X-Men was basically a brand new book drawn by Jim Lee.
+majinspade I was about to say this.
Yeah, and the teams were Blue was adjectiveless X-Men and Gold was Uncanny X-men if I remember correctly.
"X-Men Volume 2"
you guys are the reason I can't get school work done
kiptelgat pretty good reason if you ask me.
11:40 "you asked earlier what are Cables powers, he has many powers" yer killin me smalls. Cables a telekinetic, just at radical levels of power
@@judeconnor-macintyre9874 That's all true, I was trying to address what his powers were supposed to be as of the writing of X-Cutioner Song and not the convoluted mess that happened over decades later. That being said don't know why I left psychic , was a total duh moment there thanks for pointing all that out though. Cable used to be interesting and man he's character has gone so far into left field it's no wonder they he killed himself and did hard reset for character.
Cable is an incredible telepathic and telekinetic, and also has of course energy manipulative abilities in some stories
I think Cable and Stryfe's power was omega level Telekinesis, like being able to move molecules and stuff
+blue samurai Exactly, he also has telepathy on an equal scale.
He is the realization of Mr. Sinister's plan to use Scott Summers and Jean Grey (her clone in this case) to produce a powerful mutant capable of destroying Apocalypse and freeing himself from his servitude.
+MVG Well that sounds more like the age of apocalypse Mr. Sinister, in the original telling of Christopher Nathan Summer in the Simonson run of X factor, Mr. Sinister is free at the time and simply wants to mess with genetics and for some reason kinda hates Scott Summers
Tk & Telepathy just like his Jean Grey, his "mother" - sort of.
Cables basically a telekinetic/ telepath somewhere floating around Jean greys level. Also a theory for why his eye does that glinting thing, is a remnant offshoot from his father (cyclops) side of the family.
+Matthew Flavelle I thought that Marvel has said at some point that Cable is the most powerful telekinetic/telepath in the MU, but most of his ability has to be directed toward containing the technovirus.
+James Andresen I looked him up in the Marvel wiki after this episode and it does indeed state that he is an exceptionally powerful telepath with precise telekinetic control, to the point of being able to manipulate molecules and atoms. He also has super strong bones and can withstand massive injury, and he has near Reed Richards level intelligence. So basically he is way OP
If you think about it, this was the X-men's version of Civil War before Civil War was ever thought of. You have Cable being framed for Xavier's attempted assassination leading to X men and X Factor vs X Force and eventually leading to Cable's exoneration. I enjoyed it, to be honest. I love this episode too
Not really the whole framing of killing someone was only done in the movie civil invalid war
That's exactly what I meant
But civil war the movie was more based off of the comic book.
Patrick Jennings good point.
You were busing on early X-Force's abundant pouches and jackets but put up a picture of what appears to be West Coast Avengers... LOL
The baby dissolves! You see it fall apart.
And now, this story is 25 years old, wow...
This story brings back so many great memories. I think it was the first event that I bought issue by issue as it was coming out. In fact, I bought two of every issue so that I could keep one in pristine condition, sealed in its polybag with the card, and read the other. I can remember thinking at the end of each issue "What the?!? I don't even... I'm sure they'll clear it up next issue." It was so much fun to watch this episode, great job.
I'm pretty sure that my friends and I bought Dragon Quest based solely off that add, but I seriously doubt that I have it anymore and can barely recollect anything about it.
Nice socks Sal.
Another fun fact...no one knows where the Techno-organic virus comes from. Apocalypse infected Cable as a baby, but when Cable grows up and goes back in time Apocalypse "gets it" from him and that let's Apocalypse understand the alien technology he's been in possession of already.
I remember me and my cousin collect those Marvel Trading Cards which is done by Jim Lee! Its what introduced me to the comic book world! What a legend!
This was the storyline that got me into X-Men. Just completed getting the entire storyline a few months ago.
90’s X-Men wasn’t as bad as some would say, if you regard the zeitgeist. This crossover was amazing to me.
Loved every plotline in it and couldn’t wait for the next issues to come out.
(after watching this video 5 years Lars later lol)
Cable's main powers are vast telepathy & telekinesis. And all the Summer's brothers absorb cosmic energy & release it as destructive blasts. Scott's blasts come outta his eyes, Alex's are absorbed thru his chest & releases from his hands, & Gabriel controls energy
Man ArchAngel is probably the coolest looking super hero ever
+blue samurai yeah he was badass looking thats for sure
This story is a classic to me.. I would fight them for the mockery 😂😂
I've been waiting so long for Back Issues to do a 90s X-men arc, i remember this arc confused my ten year old self very much
28:09 HAHA...The moment Ethan gets hooked on a comic.
just clicked on this and paused it because before i even watch this i hafta comment and say yesssssssss this is the most excited for a back issues I've ever been!! i love this event! lets see if the comic pop crew agrees
This has got to be one of the funniest back issues yet. It's great.
22 more episodes until the *100th Back Issues Special Extravaganza*! A weird place to start a countdown, I know. But, y'know, whatever.
+Just Some Guy with a Mustache Sal was excited about planning out the 100th episode until someone reminded him that's in half a year.
ComicPOP! Damn. I dropped the ball, didn't I?
Just Some Guy with a Mustache Hell no!
+ComicPOP! Hey. If you make like one bonus episode per month, you could be at 100 by Stan Lee's birthday.
Just an observation. No self-serving agenda here. :P
+ComicPOP! Man, there is so much that happens with the x-men. When "All new, All different, Marvel" comes into effect, they should do like DC You and separate the
x-men from the rest of Marvel. I think it would make things easier for a lot of stories. Also, if there were no Avengers in their universe it would explain how the general populace could like and adore the Avengers while many of them have super powers and yet despise mutants because they have powers. Just something I was thinking about, tell me, what is your opinion.
Sal, I'd like to see a Back Issues where you show some of your prized singles. Gloat over them, tell us nice stories about how you acquired them, and summarize their stories to Ethan/Ben.
+greenechri That sounds like a good episode 100 idea.
Jae Lee's run on Batman-Superman is one of the reasons I got into comics
Wolverine: I recognize that scream. That’s the scream of someone trapped on the moon with Cyclops.
I love this book, a showcase of the three X-Groups and Apocalypse.
Cable is the X-Man from the fewcha
ever notice when Ethan says something, Ben looks like hes had ENOUGH SHIT!!! like hes annoyed by 'em XD
Heh Sal reviewed tis in past weeks weekly pull, love this chan.
7:55 You who didn't see it comin? Daredevil.
she was cloned by sinister not the Phoenix
Its pretty awesome you guys did this, its the first comic i ever got even with its problems love this comic lots of nostalgia
Ben as a bio major I can tell you that you most certainly give a pheromone when you lie
. X-cutioner's song was 4 issues crossing over, & lacked the top notch pencilers, that had drawn the relaunches,, but made up for it in storylines that were developing for about a year.
It should have been drawn by Jim Lee, Wilce Portacio, Rob Liefeld & Larry Stroman, imo
Jae Lee's 3 issues were awesome 22:40 is a Jae Lee cover.
I very much appreciate that pop culture at large with remember Cable as an overly seriously foil and grimdark counterpart to Deadpool, and not the insane amount of comic book bullshit that he actually is. Because I don't know how you can be bothered to care about Cable outside of that context.
DUDE!!! Thank you for doing this!! WELL WORTH THE WAIT ( and not constantly bugging the dj to play my jam) I can't wait to listen. I've got a hefty drive coming up and i'm going to love every minute of it listening to you hash out this slice of my childhood Sal Style!! I will def mail bag something special for ya! THANK YOU!!!
Great vid. Sal, love ur socks bro.
Dragon quest was kind of big actually, just not too big in the US. I'm pretty sure it was partially responsible for final fantasy.
Archangel's failure to kill Apocalypse didn't allow the Age of Apocalypse to happen, Legion killing Professor X in the past did
Cable has telepathy and telekinesis that can take on the silver surfer
If you try to find a copy of Dragon Quest, you're more likely to find the Enix RPG that was titled Dragon Warrior in the US.
I'm on a back issues marathon apparently. Loved reading this on release, don't think I could get back into it [even if I found all my original floppies] as it seems so much more convoluted now than I remember as a kid in the early 90s. But man, Jim Lee could hella draw the X-Men and no matter how crazy the story his are worth it for those visuals alone.
Cable's main power is telekinesis, and he's also a low-grade telepath.
I remember reading that issue with the baby when I was in the 5th grade, and as I remember it, Stryfe constructs the baby from the techo-organic virus, and then has the virus completely consume the baby in front of Scott and Jean for no reason but to traumatize them and further hint to his own origins.
Now it's been more than a few years since I've read that issue, so I could be remembering it incorrectly, but that's how I recall the purpose of the random baby.
Also...that card art at the end was absolutely terrible.
Can the comic pop crew come up with more x-based puns to put in their description? Tune in next time, same x-time, same x-channel.
+Grievousish So x-cited about this comment and think it is x-ceptional. I would have x-pected myself to think up something this x-traordinary.
Stay x-cellent.
FINALLY YOU GUYS UPLOADED IT!!!
Great episode! The X-Men are my favorite comic characters ever so I love when you guys do their back issues even though you've pretty much shit on all those stories lol. This story was hit or miss but I definitely stand by Dark Phoenix Saga and Days of Future Past as 2 of the greatest stories ever told in comics, not just in X-Men. Now I'll be waiting for you guys to do X-Tinction Agenda, the Asgard Saga (not sure of the official name of that story), and the Muir Island Saga. Btw, I bought the Kingdom Come and Dark Knight Returns trades based solely on your praise for them so thanks for the recommendations!
This always confused me because there IS a villain named X-Cutioner. They just love that name.
+I Am Your Target Demographic there WAS a villain with that name
Yup and he used a hodgepodge of weapons taken from aliens, time travelers, and super science villains.
I remember this cross over! drawings were amazing and nice Nate Summers/Grey/Dayspring link
love your chanel im pretty sure ive watched all your videos or at least most of them wish you guys would do more backissues on marvel cosmic stories thou
Congrats on 20,00 subs all of you deserve it
Cable is really powerful. He's a scrub killer in Marvel vs Capcom 2. D:
That was honestly where I first saw and enjoyed Cable.
Greetings from Canada!! Sal you f*cking rock man. Ben and Ethan, your cool factor is increased because Sal is in between you two. Keep it up boys!!!
"If Taylor Swift was a mutant" little did sal know.....
I have never read this, so pumped!
Coffee and comic pop.
great time to take a break away from building my built-in comicbook shelf:)
+Adam Meuse THAT is an excellent project!
i wish i was u ;___; (omg that sounds creepy)
COFFEE + COMICS!!!!
Can we get X-Men Deadly Genesis love to know more about Vulcan and the whole Summers Bloodline and why its special and stuff?
Congrats on 20,000 subs!!!!!
Loved this. Hope you guys do a book with some legacy virus elements to it. I know next to nothing about Ilyana and Piotr, but I want to pick up the Lemire book (Extraordinary X-men) when it comes out.
4:25 Sal.....you did this!! Ahhhh! Lmao
Funny thing...there is a x-men bad guy named executioner lol.
Own the Hook game. At the time it was fun. So odd to hear that being brought up lol.
That "lame ass mutant who is irrelevant" (3:43) is Lila Cheney! Who featured in the New Mutants as Cannonball's first girlfriend!
Geez!
So what we said!
i love all the dc and marvel storys you guys go over but i would really love to see you guys do stuff outside of those universes like stories from image or dark horse love to see your guys reaction to other comics outside of dc and marvel and maybe a few star wars stories from dark horse comics since episode 7 is around the corner well anyway just an idea keep up the great work.
Man all of the X-Comics were a real mess in the mid-nineties. I was never able to keep up with it and had to quit for a while.
This was a great episode, and it pointed a lot of the things that made 90s X-Men really great and really bad.
Any chance you may tackle a Season One run of a Marvel character? It'd be a good opportunity to both critique a self-contained story, and to critique the adaption of an old story.
Wasn't it a fake baby that reverted into technology in a single panel?
The look at 5:39 is priceless!
I like Lila Cheney.
Hook for the SNES was amazing.
I just cant wait for this to turn into a movie! imagine apocalypse, xmen, x factor, x force teaming up to defeat him! cant imagine the graphics of the scenes
I'm reading New Avengers atm, because of this channel, and in the savage land Wolverine says "I can smell it on a person" when they're lying. lol ok
+Mike D turns out to be a slightly fishy smell.
Wait--doesn't the friend or Harrison Ford mention in a throwaway line that the guy borrowed his car or something waaaaay at the start of The Fugitive? Now I have to check the tape and...dammit, where is my VCR?!
Nice top Ethan! Now put a lab jacket and get physical😈
Time Bomb. Love Godsmack songs.
Aaaaaaa!!! Post-1983 Chris Claremont! Run for your lives!!!
not a title i was especially interested in... but your commentary was awesome!!!
I'm surprised the 90's never gave us a Cable & Scarlet Spider vs Stryfe and Kaine. I mean, thank God, but it seems like something they'd do.
You guys got to read Batman: the black mirror yet? One of my favorite batman titles.
I remember picking up about half of these issues from a second hand book store and only two of them in sequence, it was unintelligible. But pretty! Jae Lee's art is god damn gorgeous. He's done a lot of awesome Stephen King art for his novels and dark tower comics.
Also Ben, its Gettin' Physical with Ethan, not Gettin' Biological with Ethan. Pheromones are tricky sum'bitches.
Oh... the singer with teleportation skills is the one from Captain Marvel solo run!
I forgot the name of the trade but you guys should do the story where xmen/new mutants/alpha flight are stuck in asgard.
+elise bettro I have those comics and on the covers it just says X-men and Alpha Flight #1 in a two issue limited series/#2 in two issue limited series but anyways it a great story! one of the best Loki stories out there i think
it's called the Asgardian war.
yes!
10:30 I have an idea, I may be wrong, but I have a theory for the "song" in the title. There's a phrase, "bought/sold it for a song" meaning either a great deal (a steal) or horrible one (a lemon). Could this be what they're getting at? Like Stryfe is deceiving the X teams? It's still a crappy title, not defending it, but my mind wants to make sense of this lol.
Is that why people say "Something smells fishy"? Because you stink when you lie?
+Mercy's Little Show idk but makes sense! lol
hey odd question, but why were the comments blocked on the dark phoenix back issue?
yay it wasn't uploaded at 2 in the morning lol
I realize this was six years ago.. but, if it was Stryfe pretending to be Cable who shot Xavier, then how did Xavier get the T.O. virus? Cable has it, not his clone. (Nevermind the fact that Cable would never do that.) It was said that "Cable" (before anybody knew about Stryfe) shot Xavier with the same techno-organic virus that is attacking his body.
Hey sal can you do a done in 60 seconds on cable/nathan grey/stryfe cause im still a bit confused
I had that comic back in the 90's! Wasn't it X-men #1e?
Apocalypse has many minions
so confusing. My brain hurts.
Xman from age of apocalypse is cable I believe if I've not forgotten.
omega level telekinetic telepathic, can heal self, many powers
Still waiting on that dragon quest video lol
Mint socks Sal!