"Driving a Humvee Over 55mph - No Thanks" | Kip Reacts to The Fat Electrician
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- Fellow Legends, welcome! Today we dive into another excellent Fat Electrician video, this time with some other legendary people discussing Humvees. A lot of civilians like them, a lot of military are okay with them, but whether you're a civilian or military you've definitely seen and heard of the Humvee. I do absolutely recommend that you go ahead and check out both The Fat Electrician and The Fat Files channels as well as the original video to show some support for the source material!
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Original Video: Driving a Humvee Over 55mph - No Thanks
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"It's not a Gundam!" Not yet. **Squints eyes.**
You also gotta remember, the HMMWV's weren't meant to be driven into the "war" part of the war zone. It was meant to be driven up to a certain point and then get out and walk at most, as well as a workhorse. They weren't meant to be an APC or IFV style vehicle.
That makes this make a lot more sense.
Unfortunately there were a number of casualties in soft-top Hummers before the troops started adding their own armor.
15:25 *"ok drop the JDAM there"*
JDAM: *reduces enemy base ontop of a mountain to flattywood*
I can accept a vehicle being parked in multiple spaces because it’s too big for one, or like in Adam Sandler’s Bedtime Stories where if the work truck is damaged it comes out if your paycheck.
Those I get.
But when you’re parking a car that can damn well fit in one spot comfortably in multiple spots, you’re a piece of garbage.
No, you are a piece of garbage for being a civilian driving a vehicle that is not designed for civilian roads and parking spaces. If it is a semi, sure whatever but those guys usually park in the middle of nowhere in the parking lot but if it is just an oversized truck that doesn't have any marking designating it as some sort of service vehicle... no you had a choice when you bought that _thing_ to ummmm no buy it and proceed to drive it everywhere. Like if you have one of these gass-guzzlers that has its range measured in gallons per mile instead of miles per gallon clearly you have another vehicle why are you driving that monster to the store?
We were still using the canvas skinned vehicles as late as 2016
And the no keys thing is so that, in a SHTF scenario, you're not scrambling for keys or trying to dig through a casualty's pockets to evac
Still using them in 2024, I have a couple on my hand receipt.
Remember the military Humvee is not the same as a civilian H2 Hummer. The civilian version more in common with a GMC Yukon than a military vehicle.
You should definitely watch more of the unsubscribe podcast clips. Both Fat electrician and Brandon Herrera became more permanent hosts, along with Donut Operator this past year.
Watch the one with Veteran with a Sign and the donkey story
Nope he shouldn't he would have to stop reacting to all of them if he did
As a civilian who owned a military vehicle (a 1968 M35A2), can confirm that they are speaking facts.
5:15 the engine was speced out in the 70s, when the hummwv was up armored , instead of respecing the engine (which is basically introducing an entirely new vehicle) they just added turbos to the specs.
10:00 every former military has scouted their local base/armor in case of collapse.
Another thing to keep in mind, the width of a Humvee is about the same width of a dually truck at the outer tire. So measure the width of like a Ford F350 dual rear wheel axle go from the outer tire to outer tire and that's the track width of a Humvee about 95". The idea was for it to be in the track width of tanks or at least that's what i have read.
Another thing is, these have a 6.5L GM diesel engine or in case of the older ones a 6.2L GM diesel. Both are indirect injected, only the 6.5 had a turbocharger. The 6.2L was about 130hp and like 260ft/lba of torque. I think the 6.5 turbo had around 190hp...they had higher power numbers than the civilian versions and also lacked emissions. If you found like a 80s CUCV like an M1008, M1009, etc there is a Emissions exempt sticker under the hood as per DoD.
I've looked at getting a Humvee or an old CUCV and the CUCV are over priced now. Humvees just have expensive tires.
Maintenance on a Humvee is a bit more expensive, but only because there's extra areas that need to be serviced. Also the brakes are inboard and not outboard at the wheels. It was another way they increased ground clearance along with the portal axles.
If you watch the maintenance video that ChrisFix did on his Hummer H1 he got a few years ago, other than the Duramax diesel under the hood and that also being a civilian vehicle, most of the maintenance is the same on that as the Humvee.
Just realized that as of this year the Humvee is 40 years old
Good lord, that time check hits hard. I remember being in my first unit when we got these newfangled HMMWVs to replace our jeeps.
You know when the drivers around you are bad is when you can pass them in a HMMWV.
I would own a Humvee right now, if it weren't for the fact that tires for them are about $3000-3700 for a set of 4 brand new. They are 37x12.5R16.5. Meaning 37" diameter, 12.5" wide, on a 16.5" rim. A rim size that has been long discontinued which also dosen't help.
Yeah I've driven them on the I-10 and past 55 its like re-entering Earth's atmosphere on the space shuttle xD
Please react to unsubscribe clips specifically their video on “electrician hates communism”
which time ?
@@ealtar what do you mean it’s on their clips channel not the regular full length
Nic is really unhinged when he goes on his Communist rants and I'm all for it.
Hell yeah
That was originally going to be today's video.
I had to have CZcams check it because they flagged the video for issues.
Military HMMWV had a 4 cylinder diesel engine. It was never meant to drive more than 45 mph. Pretty great off-road capability though- as long as you had an original soft skin 4-door or cargo version. One you added armor, it sucked everywhere. When I was in the Army, I spent a year as a HMMWV driver.
The windshield is actually at 92 degree angle. Reason is to prevent glare from the windshield to alert presence to scouting aircraft. Remember that it was designed in the late 1970s, when we still worried about scout aircraft.
It had a 6.2L V8. Uparmor models got a 6.2L turbo.
If i recall correclty Zach from MikeBurnFire was deplyed with the cloth version of the Humvee, and i think he has a video talking about it.
it's the same video were he made a Kevlar cocoon so he could sleep through mortar attacks in Iraq
it's the same video were he made himself a Kevlar cocoon so he could sleep through mortar attacks back in Iraq
One of my friends bought a surplus hummer, he bought some comfortable seats out of a van to swap out the original ones. After that it is not a bad ride even on fairly bumpy roads, still not great for highway speeds.
Where did he move the batteries?
@@voraciousblackstn not sure would have to ask him. The only thing I worked on was the old military chevy and dump truck.
Box said "+20hp"
I remember driving an up-armored HMMWV at ~45 mph in the rain at night, probably the closest to death I ever was when I was in.
Army guy built different yep definitely. My husband had his aorta repaired, major heart surgery, and he bitched about the week he had to take off after surgery. Lol God I miss that man
I hated the HMMWVs. But that's due to me being 6'6". Knees embedded into the dash or chair in front of you. And the seats suuuuuck.
yes 6'4 i feel it and i own a old half track reason why not
Drivers seat in the uparmored were pretty comfy for my 5'9 ass, also removing the top bolts would allow the seat to recline if you adjusted it forward so i could sleep in the drivers seat while on standby.
Kip, you should react to Wendigoon's video, That Time The CIA Faked A Vampire Attack To Take Over A Country. Genuinely the most insane thing I've watched him put out
As a mechanic in the military for a bit, we also dont do proper alignment on vehicles.
91B here. The best part about those canvas doors is that they literally fall apart after a couple months of lught use.
That sounds awful...
@@KipReacts yeah. The stitching on the window zippers dry rots pretty easy.
"I Did This, Firemen Were Needed, But I'm Not Sorry" - A video by Demolition Ranch... Matt Carriker... You'll come across him eventually now that you've stumbled upon the Guntubers...
Anyway the first half of the video is him Road Tripping a HMMWV across Texas... If you want to know what they're like...
The military just slaps armor on stuff. They kinda sorta added 20 extra HP for 1000 pounds of armor. Granted, Canvas tops were adecuate for the original purpose of the HMMWV, light duty use and support use AWAY FROM THE FRONT LINES 40 years ago.
Can confirm. When we hit country in '04, we had soft tops. We drove those in 500 miles. I was in an LMTV (Duece-and-a-half replacement). We had guys stuffing thick rubber mats into the framework of their doors and sandbags in the floorboards.
My best time in the Army was when we were done training in Fort Polk, Louisiana. We were convoying all the vehicles back to the rail head to go back to Texas. I was following lead vehicle. The freaking Sergeant Major driving the van in front of me took off. I was in an M1068 tracked vehicle. I had to go fast to keep up with him. This vehicle is about 13 tons. I never had so much fun driving almost 40 mph in a vehicle that heavy. Would totally do it again
4:40 How do military vehicles work? Not very well. You're lucky if you can get multiple uses out of them depending on the mission parameters.
13:24 Yeah, notice the number built underneath that. Someone made almost $62 billion dollars on those piles of crap. I'm not saying someone was purposely overcharging then skimming, but...
Keys? Imagine you wake up in the morning as mortars drop into your barracks. The guy with the keys is under the rubble. You can hear gun trucks rolling in, and air support is 30 minutes out.
No. Every military vehicle, from side by side to the biggest tracked wrecker are operated by an on off switch. It has steps, but the point is to be going, no matter what.
As Edna said in the Incredibles.... No Keys.
"Where are the keys! They're dropping arty on our position!"
"Fuckin Private dropped em in the latrine"
drove those a lot. 1st battalion pulled me over and asked me if I realized how fast I was going down this gravel road. I was like no, the damn needle was pinned to the floor so faster than 55mph. He then told me I was doing 71, and threaten to stop all training for the day because of reckless driving. after he left my Lt. (who was my tc in the passenger seat) said fuck floor it, and so I did. In the end I got coined by 1st bat. for my driving skills. just your average bs in the military.
What does tc mean sorry i dont speak military
The canvas tops for the old Hummers was because they were never actually intended to serve in a combat zone. They were supposed to be a behind-the-lines utility vehicle in the same vein as the old open-topped jeeps, not an actual armored car. The thinking was, if your HMMWV is getting shot at, then you did something terribly wrong. Unfortunately, the designers didn't have low-intensity asymmetrical warfare in mind, where insurgents could be anywhere and everywhere, ready to take potshots or set IEDs by the roadside. In Iraq and to a lesser extent Afghanistan, there was no real "behind-the-lines" area, because the war was all around them, all the time. So they up-armored the HMMWVs to survive in that kind of environment, which ended up converting the things from rear-area transports to light armored cars and completely warped and changed the doctrine of how they were supposed to be used.
2 additions:
1. Canvas: in terms of bullet protection, your regular car sheet steel has about as much "armor" effect as canvas
2. no keys: there is a good reason for that: if you are under fire and need to GTFO, you don't want to search for the keys or want to find out that Sgt Muppet whose body lies about 100m meters away in the direction of the enemy had them
In 03 rode in a canvas vehicle with 1 other person in Iraq. This was right after the "combat" ended. We had gotten reports of "civilian" engagements with troops.
its a masterlock lock, that means a stiff breeze will open it, they're awful
That's wild.
@@KipReacts just so you may understand better, I bought a set of lockpicks a few years ago, and all I had were masterlocks around the house to practice with, I got board of picking them in about 3 hours because where is the fun when it takes under 10 seconds blind to pick them, not to mention raking the damn things.
that said, if you ever want to get a secure lock, I do recommend getting a set of picks, and if you can do it in under 10 minutes, its not stopping anyone, and yes, I am aware locks are not about security, its about deterrence, but if untrained gets in in under 10 minutes, trained and knows the locks are getting in in under 1.
@alidan Thanks for the input!
That's wild that some locks take under 10 seconds to pick.
I think the last thing you want when trying to escape or charge in...is to have to look for your keys
In my friend group the comment right before 7:15 is known as a “Dude, shut up! Dude.” Moment. Never give fate/Murphy/your GM ideas.
Canvas tops or fuck all nothing overhead🤣
The HMMWV was not designed for armor. It was designed back in the 80's before we implemented body armor.
Used to be in a unit where they put one of those engines in one of the soft tops. Damn that thing was fast. (For a HMMWV)
I've gotten an uparmored HMMWV to go 75 and started passing people on the freeway.
I've also drifted a HMMWV will also doing night driver qual. I was quickly told "It would be nice if you didn't kill all of us."
Ah, yes, the HMMWV........
Oh the memories, & the suffering caused from it
Most of the OIF invasion HMMWVs were indeed canvas soft tops. We started getting the turbo diesel versions in about 06. Mind you, HMMWV production ended in like 04. They replaced the engines with GMC Sierra 3500 turbo diesels. Also changed the electrical system from 12 Volt to 24 Volt. That was so you could add the bolt on AC to the back of the up armored HMMWVs. Which is basically just a window AC bolted on.
HMMWVs are such crap. Give me a Jeep any day.
You wanna know the funny thing about electric vehicles? They want BIG RIGS to be all electric, California is making the push for this. My biological father is a long haul trucker, I've actually been on 2 hauls with him. One in spring and one in winter....we were up in Michigan and waiting for the stuff to be ready to pick up the next day. It dropped down into like...-20 minimum...I'm southern born and raised, that was the FIRST time I ever experienced anything in the negatives....my dad's rig is a diesel and it nearly froze out the rig. The rig that had been RUNNING all night to keep us warm and to try and prevent the freezing out of said engine...we were on the road when it stalled out and he had to get it going again because it was so cold. When I hear about electric big rigs I just start laughing my butt off cause I know that dog won't hunt. If a cellphone battery starts fritzing out in that kind of weather and anything close to -20 or lower starts to stall a diesel engine I KNOW an all electric one won't work....that's not even talking about the charging times it would take for something that big and the power it would need to haul heavy loads.
I could be wrong, but the original was 210 HP, but like 350 ft/tq. The turbo one was 275 HP with 510 ft/tq after up armor. The orginals with the canvas were like 185 or 200 hp. I could be wrong, it's been 20 years, but I'm pretty sure I'm close.
I had a canvas tops with no doors woodland green in a desert
Oh that's rough.
Oh god those Humvees have a series problem with rolling over if you do the slightest thing wrong.
We had a HUMWWV that had a brand new Serpentine belt. It broke on the way back from the field. It just snapped and it was brand fucking new. My section had to wait for that damn thing for 4 hours to get it towed back to the base so we could get to our hotels and sleep for the remaining 3 hours of the day
Funny story my dad has a reward for time in service which has a nick name the higher ups gave him. His nick name was "Motorhead" because his constant question was "Do you have a Hummer for me" because he hated those god damn 7 tons. And he had to wear that gif forsaken wool motorman uniform in 120 degree weather in 29 palms which is a fucking desert and they didn't have over head hangers for the motor pool. All that shit be backing in the sun
Hi Kip! I’m pretty new to your content and I know you were unsure if you wanted to keep running the reactions and stuff but I sincerely hope you do. I appreciate your insight into subjects and videos that I may have already seen or the ones I haven’t. Keep up the good work sir!
This talk about buying Humvee reminded me how certain polish CZcamsr/streamer as a joke set goal 1000zł - buying UAZ (basically Soviet era humvee) this around 250$, but it was much more than he usually got. He got five times the amount in the hour. To be clear it's not nearly enough.to get UAZ in good condition, but hey. Now he has UAZ
so glad you reacted to this video
If you bought a $5,000 Hummer, be prepared to pay $10,000 a year for maintenance.
So, I have a story to write, but because I also have comments, that's going in another comment.
I have driven HMMWVs on public roads and on freeways. It's a very scary experience trying to get that beast to the speed limit, while being in a convoy. You technically have a mirror to see if there is anything on the right side of the vic, but good luck actually being able to use it. Also, the speedometer caps out at like 60 MPH. I was able to get the needle of it to get below that. Wish I took a picture of it, but I was driving at the time on a busy freeway and was trying to not die (and get my CO killed as well... nothing like putting the XO and CO in the same vehicle XD ).
If you think that hospitals selling Tylenol for $80 is bad, never take a look at what government contractors get away with charging for very simple pieces of gear. $200k for a HMMWV is nothing compared to other parts. Heck in the early 2010's the USAF was still buying F4 Phantom parts, and that airframe was fully retired decades before then. At the same time, I've had to get into slap fights with big Army in order to secure funding to get bullets to do weapons qual. Budgeting in the military is bipolar at the best of times.
Asking new soldiers to track down the HMMWV keys is an old snipe hunt. Like asking for a Kevlar stretcher, a box of grid squares, some chem-light batteries, or 50-feet of shore line. As others have pointed out, military vehicles don't use a key ignition system because of the liability in a combat scenario. If the guy with the key gets killed (or worse, gets turned into a red mist) you will have to waste a LOT of time trying to find the key (if it even still exists) and pray that it is undamaged enough to be able to turn the vehicle on. Not worth the risk. Instead, we have to follow an annoying set of steps to turn the various vehicles on that aren't always the same and are never instinctive. The amount of times I've had to explain how to turn a HMMWV on to an 11B that ran to me crying about how it won't start is... Well, let's just leave it at the next idiot that sends me a 5988 (think document to report vehicle issues) with the fault being "Doesn't start" and there isn't anything wrong with the vehicle will have grown gills by the time he's done mopping the rain.
"I'm looking at this as a civilian that doesn't know how military vehicles operate"
They usually don't lol
As someone who used to be both a paratrooper and an infantryman in the army you should definitely do a reaction to the Fat Electrician's videos on the airborne and the infantry.
I‘ve heard of other militaries making the keys the same across the fleet, but no key kinda takes the cake…
Though to be fair, in combat you don’t like keys. As in „welp, we’re now three guys, 20miles from base and some asshat IED‘d the driver, now we leave our crap here and walk 20 miles home through the desert, despite the humvee being absolutely fine…“
Having no keys means everyone can drive it away, which is probably a good thing in a combat zone, less good in peacetime, so you guard that crap, or put some random masterlock and chain on it…
Remember: HMMWV's are 'military grade'.
Translation: Designed and built by the cheapest bidder.
Unsubscribe podcast is great . It's my favourite podcast honestly
im going to give you the comment i put on that video youre watching
It’s even worse when the LMTV tries to go uphill. I love FP 69 North as much as anyone else, but those hills are killer on our humvees and LMTVs because we are legit PEDAL TO THE FLOOR going 5mph uphill while the engine is screaming at you that it wants to go back home.
if you do not have a running start before going up ANY incline, you are going to spend a few minutes going 5 mph
I get mad at the trucks that are parked over multiple spots if it’s blatantly obvious that the truck is not used as a truck but is bedazzled and lifted up to the point that a slow turn can cause it to tip over. At that point, you’re just doing it for attention. I have also noticed a correlation that the more bedazzled a truck is, the closer to the front of the lot and more spaces they take, where as the people who drive the oversized trucks who actually use them will generally park near the back of the lot to not be an inconvenience to other people.
glad you enjoyed this.
The way that military procurement and design works:
US politician/oversight committee: "Will this work?"
Military: "Yes, but-"
Politico: "You said yes! Make it happen."
It doesn't matter if that 'but' is followed by '-but there are cheaper and more functional options available' or '-but it's going to explode the first time it's hit by anything bigger than to BB.' or '-but it's going to become effectively useless due to the weight of the upgrades.' One of the reasons that the US military is so effective is that they've made a habit of finding the best ways to utilize the results of piss-poor government decisions.
I recommend reacting to the unsubscribe podcast clip of the bad eyesight heroes of WW2. That will have you rolling
Honestly, im no army guy, but if i was in an active warzone and because i keep forgetting shit, i don't want my only means of transportation to have an ignition key.
Afghan donkey story that’s a must from the podcast channel
They are like riding around in a depth charged german submarine in ww2 with your feet in a 5 gallon bucket sitting on a boat cushion, at speeds above 40mph they don go much faster bit make a lot more noise and feed like you are attempting to re enter the earths atmophere. You scream at the guy next to you 5 feet away as loud as you can, HOW FAST ARE WE GOING, WE HAVE A HILL AHEAD, 32MPH? THAT CAN'T BE RIGHT, HMMWV GETS LOUDER, AND SLOWS DOWN.
HMMWV don't have keys because you need to be able to jump into other peoples shit and drive away if you need to, or to salvage a situation that has gone wrong.
I’m a civilian, I have an excuse to be stupid.
And yet, here we are, Kip. Learning things. That’s how it works.
If it makes sense, the military won't do it. Unless it's cheaper
I love the Unsub podcast it is so funny.
13:17 i wouldn't be surprised if it is a highly inflated bill, becuase government contracts are bloated general. At least from everything i have heard.
do more of this
Speaking of..... you need to do TFEs video on the gun trucks of Vietnam
remember, 'military grade' just means made by the lowest bidder
If you want something that spends more time broken and leaking oil in your driveway, buy a HMMWV!
finding one and affording the fuel the issue also the highway thought no i been next to one im brave not stupid
WE STILL USE THESE PIECES OF CRAP. These photos are giving me vivid images of when i drive one 😂😂
Oh that's awful...
This is fucking true. They can do pretty much anything, but jesus they aren't fun to drive lol.
Loved my hmmwv ❤
to be fair electric vehicules at home are not a bad idea keep that jp8 for when you actualy need it
I love the unsub podcasts sm
0-60 in twelve years
6:09 what is the torque figure on em? 170hp is terrible even nowadays hatchbacks make that but hp is not important on weight i hear it's a turbo diesel so probs 6.7? I mean that's at least what it should be but 9000 lbs needs sum serious torque to move it especially all terrain where humvees should go
Edit: so apparently they make abt 250+ to 380lb ft by a 6.2 or a 6.5 which abysmal
HOW THE HELL DID THEY EXPECT THIS THING TO FKN MOVE?
Yo can you react to sage's rain "Naruto did not change the world" ❤
You should watch his video about his gas chamber training
careful kip, as much as id love to see you react to the unsubscribed podcast theres a lot of sensitive souls down here that would get butt hurt real fast, let alone yourself.
the engines on these fuckin things are horrendously underpowered gm 6.5 turbo diesel single bank not both and small turbo
That's distressing.
My crown vic has more hp
Story time. Names removed to protect the guilty, and language censored thanks to CZcams being CZcams.
Okay, so no s&#%, there I was, at LOG-BOLC (logistical officer version of AIT, aka Officer MOS training) when my class was told about this gem by one of the cadre there. He was a Lieutenant (LT) at the time, and had just transferred to a new company as its commander and finished signing all of the documents. He decided to go check on the motor pool and meet some of his joes and check on all of his new equipment. When he got there, with his First Sergeant (1SG) in tow, he did a quick inspection of his vehicles. He noticed one in the back and when he asked about it, his 1SG told him, "Don't worry about it, sir."
To which the LT said, "Well, I signed for it, so I need to worry about it." They went back and forth a bit on it before the 1SG sighed and they walked over to it.
This vehicle was the Company Commander's HMMWV. Emphasis on *was*. Everything had been stripped off it, and I do mean EVERYTHING. No engine, no doors, no tires, no bed, no seats, no dashboard, no steering wheel, no radio, no axels, no wheels, nothing. Even the rivets were removed. It was the frame of a HMMWV and that's all. When the now-shocked LT asked his 1SG what happened, the 1SG explained how, before he arrived, the Battalion Commander (BC) wanted to get his battalion up to gunnery to get certain qualifications done, and refused to accept that there were vehicles down due to various deadlining faults (Army for "vehicle is not safe to use" or "vehicle is not mission capable"). So the previous company commander ordered them to turn that HMMWV into a hanger queen and get every other vehicle up.
Now, this is something the Army allows soldiers to do HOWEVER it requires approval at the Battalion Commander level and a memo (signed by the BC) showing that authorization. When the LT asked for the memo, the 1SG said that it didn't exist and none of the cannibalization was documented. Now, since LT had already signed the paperwork (including a hand receipt for all the vehicles), that means that the fault of that vehicle being stripped of parts is all on the LT.
LT left the motor pool, went straight to his office, and typed up a memo for record explaining everything that happened. He saved a copy of it, printed one out, signed it, and hid it in one of his desk drawers. He then went to his 1SG and asked him to take him to two of the company's "most Redneck m^%$erf^%&ers" (his words, not mine XD) and ordered them to forget all other tasks, and just get that HMMWV back into working shape.
It took those two soldiers TWO YEARS to rebuild that vehicle from effectively scratch. Every month or two, the vehicle would be deadlined for some part that the two were working on, like clockwork. Thankfully, this task was aided by the fact that there was a military scrap yard with plenty of HMMWVs right next to the motor pool, so those two soldiers working on the hanger queen were able to acquire the parts needed to fix it with minimal questions and 100% legit parts requests. After those two years, the vehicle was perfectly serviceable and not a single person outside the company knew what happened and the LT (who had been promoted to Captain by this point in the story) was able to transfer to another unit without the BC finding out about the hanger queen.