I own a 6D, and I love it, the Wifi, is very helpful, especially when some clients want a sample of their photos right away when there's no computer around. Same processor, same image quality, and lighter. All of the buttons are on the right side of the camera so I can use it with one hand. And and about the video MOIRE problem, I will confess that video is better on the 5DIII because of the anti-aliasing, but theirs a workaround for the 6D. You can have your own user settings for video and, this will decrease your moire so it won't show up, and here it is for stills and video: Keep the shutter at 1/50 for 24fps and 1/60 for 30fps. •Turn off highlight tone priority and noise reduction •Use ISO's in multiples of 160, they produce the least noise •Use a flat picture profile, I'd recommend Neutral with: Sharpness at 0 (all the way down) Contrast at -2 to -4 Saturation at -2 to -4 This works for me, and saved me a ton of money. Hope this helps
Sorry, there's a fair bit of misinformation here when you talk about moire. Both the 5D-III and the 6D have anti-aliasing filters. They have to in order to avoid moire issues at the native sensor resolution. The reason the 5DIII exhibits less moire is that it bins pixels together in order to generate lower-resolution images for video while the 6D simply samples a fraction of the lines. It's this low-spatial-frequency sampling of an image with high spatial frequencies that causes the aliasing/moire. The pixel binning on the 5D-III acts as a low pass filter, mimicking the effect of an AA filter and reducing moire. If the 5D-III really had an AA filter that was effective for video use, it would have an effective resolution for still photography at the native sensor resolution of only about TWO megapixels (the equivalent of HD video resolution).
6D's low light performance is way better than the 5D III. This video is superb, nicely made, but damn, go and check those dozens of video ISO comparisons on YT, you'll understand that the 6D has 0 banding noise at 25,600, while the Mk III suffers even from ISO 6400. The 6D has the best sensor in the hole Canon catalog. If you don't believe me, I'll provide a few links. If low light performance is a priority for you (like me) then go with the 6D, it murders every other Canon ever made.
The Mark III has a silent mode when shooting in bursts, so it's fine for wedding. Take another look at that. And there is a lot more red on portrait mode with the 5D, or a lot more yellow on the 6D.
I've only gotten to the picture modes so far but it looks like to me that the 6D tends to run a bit more Green/Orange and the 5D Mark III tends to have stronger Reds/Magentas. Also, in the black and white, the 6D almost looks like there is an Orange filter on. The skin is smoothed out and the spotting on the face has definitely evened out.
I really like Your videos cause they are full "real-life" examples! No 25k ISO comparison which are just useless in any Canon dslrs, no ultra-super-detailed examples - just very good overall view. I really like that. Thanks and keep going!
I am so tired of my t3i, and I want to step up to a 5D Mark III. I do quite a bit of birding, but I also love scenery. For some reason, I've never been much of a people photographer. I really liked this video, and the aliasing problems are what really makes me want to ditch the t3i and got for the Mark III. Thanks Dave!
Hey Guys I recently picked one of these 6Ds - body only. Do not fool yourself thinking that it only has 1 cross type focus. All i can say is WOW!!! It is sharp and you will going to love it. Just thought to share it with you :d Thanks
Excel Hugger does it spread to the corner at rule of third? Let’s say I want to focus on eyes subject on rule of third. So does it have a focus point at that ?
just getting into DSLR video... your review is great. You don't bore everyone to death with tangents, and you get right down to everything we need to know without being overly complicated. You are the man. Thanks.
I own both cams, 6d perfect for low light work and landscape as it performs better with high ISO than the 5D mk3. If you shoot fast moving subjects e.g. sport journalism etc then go for the 5D mk3 as it has more AF points and a higher burst rate, other than that, they are both great and sharp full frame cameras, I'm very happy with both :)
I'm just giving a review and not complaining about Canon. Great entry camera or experienced photographer as a 2nd. Almost similar results to the 5d Mark III. Hard to make it an apples and oranges comparison. I may not care to much for the Wi-Fi part since it may only have a 4 foot reach approximately reach. These bells and whistles can be enhances by Canon or 3rd party add on products. Firmware update - Corrects most but some still some crazy focusing at times compared to the slow.
+1 to Alexander. APS-C and 35MM are two different formats, just as medium format and large formats are different. On my TLR, 50MM is wide-angled, on my 35MM film camera it's standard and on my 60D it is telephoto.
I have almost never used any other focusing point than the one in the middle. It's always been weird to me when people complain about "too few" focusing points. Maybe it's just me.
I feel the same way. I've had an entry level DSLR for many years and learned to focus using the middle and then re compose the shot. Not much of a nuisance if any to me. I suppose for videos and stuff people want better AF. I ended up getting the 6D to upgrade and I love it. I couldn't justify spending more money on the 5D Mark III just for the better AF points.
Nathan C Professional video producers usually use manual focus anyways--for the greater control over the feature. I also like the center point focus better too and I do a lot of sports photography.
Depending on what kind of photography you do , choosing a focus point that is in line and parallel with what you want to be in focus is important as long as you believe that light travels in straight lines...
I have no idea what you're trying to say. Probably because of my poor comprehensions of English. Its not my native language. What I do, is focus with the middle point on whatever I want to have in focus and then recomposing the shot before shooting.
Eirik Havre Nothing wrong with that method. If you do use your centre focus point and recompose be aware of large apertures and short distances between camera and subject. digital-photography-school.com/the-problem-with-the-focus-recompose-method/
It really looks like the comparison between one amazing camera and another amazing camera. the differences are almost microscopic and there is potential intra camera variation than inter camera difference.
I use a 60D. I never use all focus points, the camera focusses on the nearest point. Mostly, I choose a focus point to one side so as to focus on the key part of me subject, with the rest spread across the frame.
I have a 6D Mk 1. It's performance, especially in low light, is nothing like the 6D here. It takes very little light fall to stop the 6D from focusing effectively.
On my Mac at 1080p, there is a lot of differences Dave. At 3:53 the 5D III is a bit sharper and the colors are much clearer (probably what is called dynamic rage, I don't know) and the tree is much crispier to. And at 4:42 the 6D is much much sharper, but it's probably because the 5D was out of focus. That seams obvious to me. I have the 60D and I really wish I had the 5D III. That's the real think for video. But so expensive for me. Thanks again for your tutorials, I learn a lot watching them.
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Thinking of upgrading myself from a 50D to 5d mk3.. just need to save some money for it ;) searching for a used one. It isnt worth it getting a brand new if the private money is an issue :)
This is the single most informative video on CZcams. Thank you for taking the time to compare these 2. I am a wedding photographer shooting with a 5d MK2 and looking to upgrade to one of these bodies. I was leaning towards the 5d3 but now I may have to reconsider. Thanks again Dave.
Not to mention much more expensive since (based from what I heard) it is much more complicated to process Carbon Fiber and molding it is a little bit trickier than what we think it is. Not to mention that if it is too thin, it could even be as weak as plastic and not stronger than magnesium.
Yep, I have exactly the same problem. I can't afford the 5DMKIII which would be pretty much perfect for me. So I decided to go for the Black Magic Pocket cinema camera(+speedbooster) for the video and Canon 5Dc for the stills.
For the T3i you would maybe want a lens like the Tokina 11-16mm. The 11mm on a crop sensor camera like your T3i is a wide angle similar to 18mm on a full frame camera like the 5d.
I understand. But Dave is comparing two devices, meant for two different situations. The 5DIII is much more allround and indeed better then the 6D on a lot of points, but the 6D wasnt meant to film as serious as the 5DIII. The 6D is good for the audience it was made for: the semi pro amateur that wants more then a cropped device and go further with still life, landscape and portrait. The 5DIII is film and action orientated I believe.
I have had all 5D cameras (exclude mark IV), and for my opinion is 6D better camera for my purpose. Better ergonomic design and wi-fi integrated in body. Only AF is not so good, but I do not take sport photos.
Very helpful video Dave, I'm still attracted to the 5D III. The only thing stopping me is that my semi-pro son took off with my 7D and has never brought it back. I'm positive if I got the 5D he'd bring it back in a heartbeat and I'd never see the 5D again. lol
Pulling focus and the need for focus pullers had been the biggest drawback for DSLR's if used for serious videography, the latest camcorders even the consumer models have an edge over most DSLR's in stability, frame rates and smooth focus transitions. and lower price. If they would only put the bit rates up and use better codecs they would be the clear winners.
Excellent review! I'm personally a Nikon video shooter, but I love to see what other companies are doing! It is amazing to see the level that these companies are getting to! Especially, like you said in low light.
You listed the noise as a reason to choose the 6d unfortunately you neglected to use the burst silent mode for the 5d mark III if you go to the menu for your shooting mode its the one with the s beside it. with this enabled it allows for very quiet use at about the same frame rate as the 6D There were a host of other features that were neglected to mention as well. most notably is the cross focus you were referring to well under certain menu options for the mark3 it actually makes all 5 of the center horizontal row utilize the 4 cross focus feature had this been enabled at the time of your test you would have found that you could have gained the exact same results from the mark 3 but with greater ease as you would have only had to hit the mark anywhere on the horizontal row top to bottom to obtain focus. I completely understand the oversight on these issues because without hours of training they could easily be overlooked. I don't own either though and am only doing research into the one I should buy and don't consider myself qualified to do a review and I know this HMMMMM just kidding I love the videos keep up the good work GOD BLESS YOU
He neglected nothing. He stated the center cross point for the canon 6d is more sensitive than that of the mark iii, and it is... +-3 vs +-2. How many cross points a camera has deals nothing with the sensitivity of said cross points. As for the shooting noise, how do you know he neglected to use the silent burst mode? Maybe he was referring to just the normal shooting mode on both cameras... or perhaps he was referring to the silent shooting mode - on BOTH cameras. That being said, I own a 6d and it is very quiet... smooth too. On my camera, the "silent" mode is only slightly quieter and it does slow the burst rate.
using a battery grip "centers" the position of the lens, so it wont face down when you have it around your neck. although, when holding it up to take a shot, the lens would be rather heavy compared to the lens. maybe make the exterior carbon fibre, but with the magnesium-alloy interior frame?
In the review of the 5DM3, you forgot to mention that the 5DM3 has a special "quiet shutter mode' that you can set in the menu. Then it should beat the 6D.
You have a great on camera presence. Loved what I think is a fair review. I agree with what you said on professional vs amateur and a clients expectations. I have the 5d Mark III and I know many clients would not be happy
every thing described is good, but never shown low light still photography differences and color corrections. i have both camera's now, i am a indian wedding photographer but not satisfied with 6d in tungsten light video which never gives that result what shows on lcd. kindly give your guidance and difference in tungsten lighting between both camera. i have 24x105 L4 lens with both cameras and having also a 17x40mm L4 lens.day light photography is better in both. But having too much difference in night wedding photography where having sunlight video lights, florescent lights and other decorative lights.
I don't know if I agree with Dave's noise findings. To me those lower ISO shots looked like the 6D was cleaner but surprisingly I thought at 6400 up the 5D3 looked cleaner.
Dave you should review the Caprock filter for aliasing and moire just Google "Caprock filter" the good thing about these filters is you buy them one time and they can work on all cameras.
i am just about to buy a 6D for wedding photography and mainly photography use. this is a great review obviously the difference in the price for the two is a problem, for me anyway, and the 6D has some great pro's and some obvious cons in comparison to the 5D mkiii.
I've been trying to decide for the past month or so which full-frame canon to upgrade to for video work. EVERY review I found was about how good the cameras were at taking stills, which to be honest, I saw no difference, other than the 6D being much cheaper... Until I came across this review... Your pointing out of the headphone input and the anti-aliasing (among other things) may have swayed me towards the 5D. It does cost a lot more, but for film making, that anti-aliasing is a must! Thanks!
12:01 Dave You have Moire and aliasing on your right shoulder / shirt ? What Camera Did you use? You can see the patterns better in 1080p not in full screen , try it
Very nice and honest review. I wanted a 5D3 for SO long but when B&H had a holiday sale last year for the 6D with the upgraded 24-105 f/4L lens at $1700 I had to jump on it. I originally thought maybe I was "settling" for the 6D and would still have 5D3 envy. But the fact I don't really shoot video and primarily shoot landscapes, portraits, astrophotography, long exposure and street/urban I think the 6D is amazing and for that kind of work I'm not missing anything by not having a 5D3. I'm really interested to see what Canon comes up with for a 6D2 which is predicted for 2017.
I had my eyes set on a 6D for a while but this video just cemented which camera Im getting. Had a 40D for a few years and looking to upgrade and thought 6D will be worthy upgrade. Only downside for me is I can only use 50mm lense with 6D and the other 2 lenses well I will have to sell. I shoot lot of pics of the cars on a car cruises so low light performance is a must and it seems 6D trumps in areas that are important for my shooting style plus I really do not like or want to use flash at all, I mean I hate using flash. Video is awesome one of the best down to earth comparisons, well done.
Thank you for such a great in-depth review between the two cameras. I know it's comparing apples and oranges but I can't wait till the 70D comes out an hopefully you do a tutorial on it also.
Nice work Dave, I have had my 6D for over a year and have never been happier - I only use the centre focus and also take a bit of surf photography - af hit rate is exceptional using this in aiservo mode
Hi, Dave! I am an avid follower of your reviews basically because you always do a balanced, non-biased comparisons and also your not melodramatic as Kai. I was hesitating on getting a 6D after using a 60D for a year now but your review helped me to decide on the 6D. Thanks a ton and I hope you will have time to answer when I bother with questions, questions, questions.......
Thank you Dave for providing such a clear and highly informative video. I am currently in the process of purchasing in a new full frame DSLR camera and your video provided me a great insights between the 5D and 6D. Amazing work Dave, thanks again!
Amazing video. Perfect comparisons, both video and image. Much respected comparison video. I had a MK2 sold it for a 6D and was really happy. Sold it though, now looking between the two 6D and Mk3.
Thanks Dave. I'm going for my first full frame and have been very frustrated on whether I should spend the extra. I think the 6D will suffice. I primarily do Landscape and Music photography. Your video helped a lot!
Great review. My experience has taught me one thing. I have come to the conclusion that if you are wanting to produce video dont consider a dslr. No matter how much you spend on a dslr you they dont compete with a dedicated video camera. The Panasonic gh5 is the best dslr for video but there is still a leap to be made when it comes to sound and other video features. The very best Canon is really only a stills camera. But as I am interested in buy a full frame camera for photos I found your comparison very informative.
I own a 6D currently. But the focus point except the middle one is so unreliable in most of the case. And I don't want to put the model in the middle of the image all the time. Therefore I'm thinking of selling my 6D since it's so frustrating as I need the peripheral focus points.
I think Canon will have much better dynamic range with the next gen of their cameras. The Canon C300 has great dynamic range and that sensor was made for video only. Canon is now in the middle of trying to keep the photographers and video people all happy. I will give Canon a lot of credit they are the only company with a amazing aliasing moire filter in the camera right on the sensor. Hopefully nextgen everything will even out with Canon.
Fantastic review! I have a 6D being shipped to me right now with the 24-105mm kit lens, and this makes me pretty confident that it was a great choice. I do shoot in low light a lot, so the auto-focus sensitivity and high ISO performance is a must. I'll just have to live with the moire until I can save up another grand and a half to upgrade to the Mark III.
Thanks for the review Dave. I needed a backup to my Mk III and decided on the 6D. I'm not much into video, for now, and for still photography and travel, the lower cost and lighter body of 6D will come in handy.
Really enjoyed your review. My 6D is coming tomorrow! I'm excited to step up to a full frame for portraiture...I don't do video very much, but it was interesting to see how both camera's handled lines.
i'm looking for a camera with a fast auto focus and great in low light situations i heard very nice things about this camera i mean 22.3 megapixels is great but i want a full frame camera that can do everything and i learn the camera
He just means most people are use to 35mm being the standard and a 50mm being a normal lens and not having to compensate for crop factor when buying lenses etc. if youre buying a lens for a crop and say to yourself ok i want a 35mm FoV, you have to get something like a 22mm lens as opposed to a FF camera where you just buy a 35mm lens
I'm so torn... I'm getting into video which makes the 5D favorable.. but the 6D is cheaper. I know for a fact if I was just taking pictures I'd go with the 6D, however due to me getting into video, the filter for the moire and the headphone jack is extremely favorable. Comments?
Thank you, I bought the 6 D, business is tough and I am excited to test wifi potential. Specially if my assistant pick images simultaneously during a shoot and have a proof ready for my clients following the shoot.
I have a GH3 for video now, which is an AMAZINGLY amazing and versatile video camera........but my 550D is a better stills camera as far as image quality. I really want a 6D, although the huge MP count of the D800 attracts me, I couldn't move to Nikon lenses. Amazing videos as always, Dave. Thank you!
Yes, I turn it all the way down. I am sure the aliasing would have been worse if I left it at the default sharpness. I guess I should have talked about that in the review. Oops!
Great review! I ending up bugging the 5d3 a few months back and don't regret it a bit. The 6d has major moire problems in my opinion! Also if you watch Philip blond review on the 5d3 he has found it takes to sharpening very well and the 6d doesn't. Yo can drastically improve the image on the 5d3 with a little sharpening. Its worth the money to me!
This is the first review video of yours that I've seen. I am impressed by your work on the review, it is very insightful and knowledgable! You've helped me see a lot of benefits in both cameras, just with this video. Thank you for taking the time to create it!
Its not fair to be so negatieve about the moiré on the 6D. Like Canon reps said on several occasions: the 6d Isn't meant for the serious filmer but for still life and landscape photography.
Wonderful review. I own a 6D and a 5D2 and was wondering if I should upgrade to a 5D3 as I step more into video. This review helped me make my mind up. Thank you.
Dave: Am I correct in assuming the aliasing will not affect photos? Since videos are recorded in 1080 at the most, I would think this has nothing to do with the AA filter in front of the sensor. That filter should be designed to eliminate aliasing for the full 20MP resolution, and would be no use for a ~2MP resolution as used when taking videos.
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I own a 6D, and I love it, the Wifi, is very helpful, especially when some clients want a sample of their photos right away when there's no computer around. Same processor, same image quality, and lighter. All of the buttons are on the right side of the camera so I can use it with one hand. And and about the video MOIRE problem, I will confess that video is better on the 5DIII because of the anti-aliasing, but theirs a workaround for the 6D. You can have your own user settings for video and, this will decrease your moire so it won't show up, and here it is for stills and video:
Keep the shutter at 1/50 for 24fps and 1/60 for 30fps.
•Turn off highlight tone priority and noise reduction
•Use ISO's in multiples of 160, they produce the least noise
•Use a flat picture profile, I'd recommend Neutral with:
Sharpness at 0 (all the way down)
Contrast at -2 to -4
Saturation at -2 to -4
This works for me, and saved me a ton of money. Hope this helps
Thanks a lot! Your contribution sure helped!
Thank you for these settings for the 6D.
Don’t Use Natural. Use CINESTYLE Flat profile. It’s free. More professional
Sorry, there's a fair bit of misinformation here when you talk about moire. Both the 5D-III and the 6D have anti-aliasing filters. They have to in order to avoid moire issues at the native sensor resolution. The reason the 5DIII exhibits less moire is that it bins pixels together in order to generate lower-resolution images for video while the 6D simply samples a fraction of the lines. It's this low-spatial-frequency sampling of an image with high spatial frequencies that causes the aliasing/moire. The pixel binning on the 5D-III acts as a low pass filter, mimicking the effect of an AA filter and reducing moire.
If the 5D-III really had an AA filter that was effective for video use, it would have an effective resolution for still photography at the native sensor resolution of only about TWO megapixels (the equivalent of HD video resolution).
6D's low light performance is way better than the 5D III. This video is superb, nicely made, but damn, go and check those dozens of video ISO comparisons on YT, you'll understand that the 6D has 0 banding noise at 25,600, while the Mk III suffers even from ISO 6400. The 6D has the best sensor in the hole Canon catalog. If you don't believe me, I'll provide a few links. If low light performance is a priority for you (like me) then go with the 6D, it murders every other Canon ever made.
so for daily photography ,potraits etc 6d is much better...and there is no image quality difference ...rite
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WTFflow is it still the winner even in 2018? I have the 6d mark ii.not happy with the lowlight.even at 5000 iso there are a lot of noise already...
@@godz2928 The noise performance of the 6D Mark II is worse than that of the original 6D
The Mark III has a silent mode when shooting in bursts, so it's fine for wedding. Take another look at that. And there is a lot more red on portrait mode with the 5D, or a lot more yellow on the 6D.
stepped up from my 60D to the 6D.. awesome.. just so much detail/noise performance/sharpnes...
6D looks like a pixel better in video quality due to having no AA filter.
But the NO AA filter makes some things look horrible.
Awesome review n_n
I've only gotten to the picture modes so far but it looks like to me that the 6D tends to run a bit more Green/Orange and the 5D Mark III tends to have stronger Reds/Magentas. Also, in the black and white, the 6D almost looks like there is an Orange filter on. The skin is smoothed out and the spotting on the face has definitely evened out.
I really like Your videos cause they are full "real-life" examples! No 25k ISO comparison which are just useless in any Canon dslrs, no ultra-super-detailed examples - just very good overall view. I really like that. Thanks and keep going!
I am so tired of my t3i, and I want to step up to a 5D Mark III. I do quite a bit of birding, but I also love scenery. For some reason, I've never been much of a people photographer. I really liked this video, and the aliasing problems are what really makes me want to ditch the t3i and got for the Mark III. Thanks Dave!
Hey Guys
I recently picked one of these 6Ds - body only. Do not fool yourself thinking that it only has 1 cross type focus.
All i can say is WOW!!! It is sharp and you will going to love it.
Just thought to share it with you :d
Thanks
Excel Hugger does it spread to the corner at rule of third? Let’s say I want to focus on eyes subject on rule of third. So does it have a focus point at that ?
I love the 6d
just getting into DSLR video... your review is great. You don't bore everyone to death with tangents, and you get right down to everything we need to know without being overly complicated. You are the man. Thanks.
I own both cams, 6d perfect for low light work and landscape as it performs better with high ISO than the 5D mk3. If you shoot fast moving subjects e.g. sport journalism etc then go for the 5D mk3 as it has more AF points and a higher burst rate, other than that, they are both great and sharp full frame cameras, I'm very happy with both :)
And I have the 6d and I just love it. Nothing to complain. I only use the center focus point and rearrange the frame.
I'm just giving a review and not complaining about Canon. Great entry camera or experienced photographer as a 2nd. Almost similar results to the 5d Mark III. Hard to make it an apples and oranges comparison. I may not care to much for the Wi-Fi part since it may only have a 4 foot reach approximately reach. These bells and whistles can be enhances by Canon or 3rd party add on products. Firmware update - Corrects most but some still some crazy focusing at times compared to the slow.
+1 to Alexander. APS-C and 35MM are two different formats, just as medium format and large formats are different. On my TLR, 50MM is wide-angled, on my 35MM film camera it's standard and on my 60D it is telephoto.
I have almost never used any other focusing point than the one in the middle. It's always been weird to me when people complain about "too few" focusing points. Maybe it's just me.
I feel the same way. I've had an entry level DSLR for many years and learned to focus using the middle and then re compose the shot. Not much of a nuisance if any to me. I suppose for videos and stuff people want better AF. I ended up getting the 6D to upgrade and I love it. I couldn't justify spending more money on the 5D Mark III just for the better AF points.
Nathan C Professional video producers usually use manual focus anyways--for the greater control over the feature. I also like the center point focus better too and I do a lot of sports photography.
Depending on what kind of photography you do , choosing a focus point that is in line and parallel with what you want to be in focus is important as long as you believe that light travels in straight lines...
I have no idea what you're trying to say. Probably because of my poor comprehensions of English. Its not my native language.
What I do, is focus with the middle point on whatever I want to have in focus and then recomposing the shot before shooting.
Eirik Havre Nothing wrong with that method. If you do use your centre focus point and recompose be aware of large apertures and short distances between camera and subject.
digital-photography-school.com/the-problem-with-the-focus-recompose-method/
It really looks like the comparison between one amazing camera and another amazing camera. the differences are almost microscopic and there is potential intra camera variation than inter camera difference.
I use a 60D. I never use all focus points, the camera focusses on the nearest point. Mostly, I choose a focus point to one side so as to focus on the key part of me subject, with the rest spread across the frame.
I have a 6D Mk 1. It's performance, especially in low light, is nothing like the 6D here. It takes very little light fall to stop the 6D from focusing effectively.
On my Mac at 1080p, there is a lot of differences Dave. At 3:53 the 5D III is a bit sharper and the colors are much clearer (probably what is called dynamic rage, I don't know) and the tree is much crispier to. And at 4:42 the 6D is much much sharper, but it's probably because the 5D was out of focus. That seams obvious to me.
I have the 60D and I really wish I had the 5D III. That's the real think for video. But so expensive for me.
Thanks again for your tutorials, I learn a lot watching them.
Fantastic video, finally a comparison that takes itself seriously. Thank you.
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Great video!! I really enjoy how you present everything. 5D Mark III for sure!!
Thinking of upgrading myself from a 50D to 5d mk3.. just need to save some money for it ;) searching for a used one. It isnt worth it getting a brand new if the private money is an issue :)
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Just bought me one now! im so happy with it :)
This is the single most informative video on CZcams. Thank you for taking the time to compare these 2. I am a wedding photographer shooting with a 5d MK2 and looking to upgrade to one of these bodies. I was leaning towards the 5d3 but now I may have to reconsider. Thanks again Dave.
Not to mention much more expensive since (based from what I heard) it is much more complicated to process Carbon Fiber and molding it is a little bit trickier than what we think it is. Not to mention that if it is too thin, it could even be as weak as plastic and not stronger than magnesium.
Yep, I have exactly the same problem. I can't afford the 5DMKIII which would be pretty much perfect for me. So I decided to go for the Black Magic Pocket cinema camera(+speedbooster) for the video and Canon 5Dc for the stills.
For the T3i you would maybe want a lens like the Tokina 11-16mm. The 11mm on a crop sensor camera like your T3i is a wide angle similar to 18mm on a full frame camera like the 5d.
I understand. But Dave is comparing two devices, meant for two different situations. The 5DIII is much more allround and indeed better then the 6D on a lot of points, but the 6D wasnt meant to film as serious as the 5DIII. The 6D is good for the audience it was made for: the semi pro amateur that wants more then a cropped device and go further with still life, landscape and portrait. The 5DIII is film and action orientated I believe.
I have had all 5D cameras (exclude mark IV), and for my opinion is 6D better camera for my purpose. Better ergonomic design and wi-fi integrated in body. Only AF is not so good, but I do not take sport photos.
Very helpful video Dave, I'm still attracted to the 5D III. The only thing stopping me is that my semi-pro son took off with my 7D and has never brought it back. I'm positive if I got the 5D he'd bring it back in a heartbeat and I'd never see the 5D again. lol
That's funny.
Pulling focus and the need for focus pullers had been the biggest drawback for DSLR's if used for serious videography, the latest camcorders even the consumer models have an edge over most DSLR's in stability, frame rates and smooth focus transitions. and lower price. If they would only put the bit rates up and use better codecs they would be the clear winners.
Your reviews are the easiest to follow and biggest help in deciding on purchases. Thanks for all you do here!
Thanks!
all you need is the center focus point anyways... use the one shot mode. I do anyway
Excellent review! I'm personally a Nikon video shooter, but I love to see what other companies are doing! It is amazing to see the level that these companies are getting to! Especially, like you said in low light.
You listed the noise as a reason to choose the 6d unfortunately you neglected to use the burst silent mode for the 5d mark III if you go to the menu for your shooting mode its the one with the s beside it. with this enabled it allows for very quiet use at about the same frame rate as the 6D There were a host of other features that were neglected to mention as well. most notably is the cross focus you were referring to well under certain menu options for the mark3 it actually makes all 5 of the center horizontal row utilize the 4 cross focus feature had this been enabled at the time of your test you would have found that you could have gained the exact same results from the mark 3 but with greater ease as you would have only had to hit the mark anywhere on the horizontal row top to bottom to obtain focus. I completely understand the oversight on these issues because without hours of training they could easily be overlooked. I don't own either though and am only doing research into the one I should buy and don't consider myself qualified to do a review and I know this HMMMMM just kidding I love the videos keep up the good work GOD BLESS YOU
He neglected nothing. He stated the center cross point for the canon 6d is more sensitive than that of the mark iii, and it is... +-3 vs +-2. How many cross points a camera has deals nothing with the sensitivity of said cross points. As for the shooting noise, how do you know he neglected to use the silent burst mode? Maybe he was referring to just the normal shooting mode on both cameras... or perhaps he was referring to the silent shooting mode - on BOTH cameras. That being said, I own a 6d and it is very quiet... smooth too. On my camera, the "silent" mode is only slightly quieter and it does slow the burst rate.
using a battery grip "centers" the position of the lens, so it wont face down when you have it around your neck. although, when holding it up to take a shot, the lens would be rather heavy compared to the lens. maybe make the exterior carbon fibre, but with the magnesium-alloy interior frame?
Call me crazy but I like the colors in the 6D a little more.
me to .. I think 6D more sharp
Dave, I love your reviews! Keep up the amazing work!
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Yep good old morie and allising that's what stopped me from getting the 6D. Great for stills though.
In the review of the 5DM3, you forgot to mention that the 5DM3 has a special "quiet shutter mode' that you can set in the menu. Then it should beat the 6D.
Clear and uncluttered video. Excellent in terms of explaining the differences between the two where it matters.
You have a great on camera presence. Loved what I think is a fair review. I agree with what you said on professional vs amateur and a clients expectations. I have the 5d Mark III and I know many clients would not be happy
Thanks, I appreciate that!
every thing described is good, but never shown low light still photography differences and color corrections. i have both camera's now, i am a indian wedding photographer but not satisfied with 6d in tungsten light video which never gives that result what shows on lcd. kindly give your guidance and difference in tungsten lighting between both camera. i have 24x105 L4 lens with both cameras and having also a 17x40mm L4 lens.day light photography is better in both. But having too much difference in night wedding photography where having sunlight video lights, florescent lights and other decorative lights.
I don't know if I agree with Dave's noise findings. To me those lower ISO shots looked like the 6D was cleaner but surprisingly I thought at 6400 up the 5D3 looked cleaner.
Dave you should review the Caprock filter for aliasing and moire just Google "Caprock filter" the good thing about these filters is you buy them one time and they can work on all cameras.
If I was ever confused about two products, I would always come to your channel first. Very comprehensive. Great work.
I wasn't watching for aliasing because I was distracted by your badass shots of the Lions fighting. So freaking cool man!
Incredible job. Thanks for taking the time. i was sold on the 6D, but now i'm thinking of saving my pennies for the 5D3
i am just about to buy a 6D for wedding photography and mainly photography use. this is a great review obviously the difference in the price for the two is a problem, for me anyway, and the 6D has some great pro's and some obvious cons in comparison to the 5D mkiii.
24-105mm is 24-105mm regardless of camera :P APS-C can stand on its own, no need to know what the FoV is with a fullframe if you use an APS-C camera.
I've been trying to decide for the past month or so which full-frame canon to upgrade to for video work. EVERY review I found was about how good the cameras were at taking stills, which to be honest, I saw no difference, other than the 6D being much cheaper... Until I came across this review... Your pointing out of the headphone input and the anti-aliasing (among other things) may have swayed me towards the 5D. It does cost a lot more, but for film making, that anti-aliasing is a must! Thanks!
I love my Canon 6d. This Fashion Week 2017 in Milan, it was perfect, wifi top.
12:01 Dave You have Moire and aliasing on your right shoulder / shirt ? What Camera Did you use? You can see the patterns better in 1080p not in full screen , try it
Very nice and honest review. I wanted a 5D3 for SO long but when B&H had a holiday sale last year for the 6D with the upgraded 24-105 f/4L lens at $1700 I had to jump on it. I originally thought maybe I was "settling" for the 6D and would still have 5D3 envy. But the fact I don't really shoot video and primarily shoot landscapes, portraits, astrophotography, long exposure and street/urban I think the 6D is amazing and for that kind of work I'm not missing anything by not having a 5D3. I'm really interested to see what Canon comes up with for a 6D2 which is predicted for 2017.
I had my eyes set on a 6D for a while but this video just cemented which camera Im getting. Had a 40D for a few years and looking to upgrade and thought 6D will be worthy upgrade. Only downside for me is I can only use 50mm lense with 6D and the other 2 lenses well I will have to sell. I shoot lot of pics of the cars on a car cruises so low light performance is a must and it seems 6D trumps in areas that are important for my shooting style plus I really do not like or want to use flash at all, I mean I hate using flash. Video is awesome one of the best down to earth comparisons, well done.
very useful video, just sold 6D and going to get the 5D III~
Thank you for such a great in-depth review between the two cameras. I know it's comparing apples and oranges but I can't wait till the 70D comes out an hopefully you do a tutorial on it also.
Nice work Dave, I have had my 6D for over a year and have never been happier - I only use the centre focus and also take a bit of surf photography - af hit rate is exceptional using this in aiservo mode
Your reviews are phenomenal! Thank you for this detailed comparison!!
Hi, Dave! I am an avid follower of your reviews basically because you always do a balanced, non-biased comparisons and also your not melodramatic as Kai. I was hesitating on getting a 6D after using a 60D for a year now but your review helped me to decide on the 6D.
Thanks a ton and I hope you will have time to answer when I bother with questions, questions, questions.......
Thank you Dave for providing such a clear and highly informative video. I am currently in the process of purchasing in a new full frame DSLR camera and your video provided me a great insights between the 5D and 6D. Amazing work Dave, thanks again!
Amazing video. Perfect comparisons, both video and image. Much respected comparison video. I had a MK2 sold it for a 6D and was really happy. Sold it though, now looking between the two 6D and Mk3.
Thanks so much for taking the time to make this video, Doug. Lots of really helpful information for those of us deciding what we should get.
I read somewhere that the sensor in the 6D is actually a little smaller than in the 5D iii
I guess that a good way to fix the aliasing problem... using adobe premiere rremove flicker thing...
One of the most important criteria for me would be the cost. Does 5DIII deserve extra money?
Best demonstration of the 6D video issues.
For video alone I would still recommend the older 5DMK2. Hands down it does video better for half the price of a MK3.
Thanks Dave. I'm going for my first full frame and have been very frustrated on whether I should spend the extra. I think the 6D will suffice. I primarily do Landscape and Music photography. Your video helped a lot!
Great review. My experience has taught me one thing. I have come to the conclusion that if you are wanting to produce video dont consider a dslr. No matter how much you spend on a dslr you they dont compete with a dedicated video camera. The Panasonic gh5 is the best dslr for video but there is still a leap to be made when it comes to sound and other video features. The very best Canon is really only a stills camera. But as I am interested in buy a full frame camera for photos I found your comparison very informative.
I own a 6D currently. But the focus point except the middle one is so unreliable in most of the case. And I don't want to put the model in the middle of the image all the time. Therefore I'm thinking of selling my 6D since it's so frustrating as I need the peripheral focus points.
I think Canon will have much better dynamic range with the next gen of their cameras. The Canon C300 has great dynamic range and that sensor was made for video only. Canon is now in the middle of trying to keep the photographers and video people all happy. I will give Canon a lot of credit they are the only company with a amazing aliasing moire filter in the camera right on the sensor.
Hopefully nextgen everything will even out with Canon.
This isn't so much the agony of choice as it is the agony of price. Such a difference in price, and yet so tempting are the features of 5D.
Dave - I have seen several reviews of 6D vs 5d M III but yours is the best so far! You have done a fantastic job!
Excellent review which concentrates on useability and IQ instead of meaningless specs. Really need to check the savings for a 6D now though .
Wow! One of the best side by side reviews I've ever seen. Really great work.
That's the most detailed review of the both cameras which I've seen on CZcams. Thank you! :D
Fantastic review! I have a 6D being shipped to me right now with the 24-105mm kit lens, and this makes me pretty confident that it was a great choice. I do shoot in low light a lot, so the auto-focus sensitivity and high ISO performance is a must. I'll just have to live with the moire until I can save up another grand and a half to upgrade to the Mark III.
And how do you enjoy 6d over these 8 years? have you made videos apart from photos?
Thanks for the review Dave. I needed a backup to my Mk III and decided on the 6D. I'm not much into video, for now, and for still photography and travel, the lower cost and lighter body of 6D will come in handy.
Really enjoyed your review. My 6D is coming tomorrow! I'm excited to step up to a full frame for portraiture...I don't do video very much, but it was interesting to see how both camera's handled lines.
i'm looking for a camera with a fast auto focus and great in low light situations i heard very nice things about this camera i mean 22.3 megapixels is great but i want a full frame camera that can do everything and i learn the camera
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wow one of the best reviews i seen well done and thanks
He just means most people are use to 35mm being the standard and a 50mm being a normal lens and not having to compensate for crop factor when buying lenses etc.
if youre buying a lens for a crop and say to yourself ok i want a 35mm FoV, you have to get something like a 22mm lens as opposed to a FF camera where you just buy a 35mm lens
I'm so torn... I'm getting into video which makes the 5D favorable.. but the 6D is cheaper. I know for a fact if I was just taking pictures I'd go with the 6D, however due to me getting into video, the filter for the moire and the headphone jack is extremely favorable. Comments?
Thank you, I bought the 6 D, business is tough and I am excited to test wifi potential. Specially if my assistant pick images simultaneously during a shoot and have a proof ready for my clients following the shoot.
Strange that Canon featured less focus points on the 6d than the rebel!
I have a GH3 for video now, which is an AMAZINGLY amazing and versatile video camera........but my 550D is a better stills camera as far as image quality. I really want a 6D, although the huge MP count of the D800 attracts me, I couldn't move to Nikon lenses.
Amazing videos as always, Dave. Thank you!
This video literally made my decision. I was so torn between the two. This is such a great video!
Best review ive ever seen on a product. Thank you!
Yes, I turn it all the way down. I am sure the aliasing would have been worse if I left it at the default sharpness. I guess I should have talked about that in the review. Oops!
Great review! I ending up bugging the 5d3 a few months back and don't regret it a bit. The 6d has major moire problems in my opinion! Also if you watch Philip blond review on the 5d3 he has found it takes to sharpening very well and the 6d doesn't. Yo can drastically improve the image on the 5d3 with a little sharpening. Its worth the money to me!
This is the first review video of yours that I've seen. I am impressed by your work on the review, it is very insightful and knowledgable! You've helped me see a lot of benefits in both cameras, just with this video. Thank you for taking the time to create it!
Its not fair to be so negatieve about the moiré on the 6D. Like Canon reps said on several occasions: the 6d Isn't meant for the serious filmer but for still life and landscape photography.
Wonderful review. I own a 6D and a 5D2 and was wondering if I should upgrade to a 5D3 as I step more into video. This review helped me make my mind up. Thank you.
Congratulations Dave ! You have done a really good job !
Great comparsion! Still use a t2i and would love to upgrade to full frame, but the moire on the 6d is quite disturbing (as it is on the t2i).
You don't mention the silent shooting mode in the 5Diii ... why? It's really nice.
Dave: Am I correct in assuming the aliasing will not affect photos? Since videos are recorded in 1080 at the most, I would think this has nothing to do with the AA filter in front of the sensor. That filter should be designed to eliminate aliasing for the full 20MP resolution, and would be no use for a ~2MP resolution as used when taking videos.