MFD Panel #1 - Virpil - Is it Good? Do You Need it?
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Is it good? Yes. Is it good looking? Yes!! You need it? No😔 you want it? Yes. You got money? No🥺
You got the money, want it and need it? You'll have to wait because most of the good gear is on backorder 😂
@Spectre Darque how long was the back order for you?
I have been looking at this panel about an hour ago and couldnt find any good quality reviews...YOU READ MY MIND!
i put a overview and setup video on this control panel about a month ago , but i gave props to noobifer for when he gets his video out
"Need" is a strong word.
"Need" denotes something necessary for sustaining life.
One NEEDS food to live.
One NEEDS water to live.
One NEEDS protection from the elements to live.
Yes, I NEED the whole Virpil suite.
genius hahaha
I need this to enjoy my games more and not be depressed and continue living
1st answer. Yes its good
2nd answer. HELL YEAH YOU NEED IT!!!
+BrianMP5T *VIRPIL® Controls has a quadrifecta for starting an aircraft simpit build.* The Control Panel #1, the ACE™ Interceptor pedal set, and the MongoosT-50CM2® throttle and stick base are engineered compatible, and the Constellation ALPHA™ stick grip (I'd suggest the 200mm extension for ballpark roll rate and pitch angle on the '50CM2 base) provides a yaw-trim input on the Z axis in addition to three inputs from the trigger system.
Virpil makes great products! My Space Citizen experience went up many steps when I switched from dual sticks from Thrustmaster to Virpil. Worth every penny. I see this control board more suitable for flight sims than as a complement to a dual stick space sim setup. Thank you for the great, to the point, review Noobs!!
Man that looks awesome - so "tactile". Cant think of a better word to describe something I want to touch and experience by feel.
Great word
I was hoping to see a mount available for this like the one in the TECS mock up where the button box is roughtly perpendicular to the throttle and mounted in such a way that it's "in front of" the throttle, if that makes sense. So take your hand off the throttle, and push the button that is slightly less than 90 degrees to it.
It seems like the placement of the daisy chain makes that a little more difficult rather than easy. Glad to see this video, when you were doing your video on the chair, all I saw was this button box =p Oh, and yes, I think I will order one of these depending on the final price of it. I bet Monster tech will make a mount like I suggested if Virpil decides not to.
There is. Monstertech makes all of that
As a Star Citizen player and Virpil owner for 2 years, I find Panel 1as a highly useful tools to the game. The A1 dial plays a huge part with my mining career (laser power) but I find the T3 and T4 switches useless as Star CItizen doesnt have a full time on vs off toggle like a jet fighter would. I wish they'd change them to E4 and E5 controls used for either detailed pitch & yah or strafing maneuvers (used when mining or salvaging). The speed indicator could also be targeted. Outside of that small request, I love the panel. Panel 2 and 3 are targeted more for Jet Fighting so I hope Virpil comes out with a more space flight panel similar to panel 1 but maybe with a slider or analog control.
In summary, I find panel 1 nearly perfect for my game play.
Thanks for another awesome review. I'll definitely be picking this up at some point in time.
You got me to get a Virpil connie and now .. Im getting a panel number 1... Thanks Noob
I own this and have my F/A-18C startup sequence buttons assigned to this thing. Makes my startup-sequence on DCS really cool :)
Would like to see a video with your mapping for SC. What were the limitations, hurdles you came across, where it stood out etc
I've been looking forward to this review to see the panel in action. It actually makes more sense for SC than a throttle. I find I've been using the throttle mainly for buttons to control things like doors, locks, lights, etc. However, I'd miss the ability to switch the B1 to B6 buttons via the Mode toggle. Great review though :)
Another amazing piece of Virpil sexieness! Well, since I'm work for a living I've been buying my Virpil controls piecemeal. This year I was able to order the CM2 base, Constellation and just placed my CM3 Throttle order. While I have a trimendous itch for their pedals, I went with VKB for now clearly for price/form factor (used). I really like this panel, but currently my money is going to mounts.
Note: Earlier this year Virpil teased us with an image of their Helicopter Collective prototype, I've been eagerly awaiting more info or at least a tech demo. Virgil's more secretive at times than a car manufacture, they teased the community damn near 2 years ago with the poll to choose the control panel design (first iteration). There was little lead up and little info about it until it its release. I just feel the market is a bit stale, no interest in unique and innovative stuff well outside of the custom builds. We see the same old sticks/HOTAS from the _lame stream_ manufactures at rather (recently) stupid prices. I mean we saw the "Airbus" release for MSFS which was a lightly modded T1000.
Kanttorin Kone a Finnish company that has avery unique design that is catering to the WW2 flight sim enthusiasts.
wow, you got the CM2 base!!!!! holy crap that thing looks SAAAWEEEET. How do you like it? have you played with the two screws that are on top that allow general exterior adjustment? Im thinking about getting a CM2 base and putting my CM2 Grip on it with an extension but the mounting bracket from Virpil (Large) protrudes up too much for me to fit my Honeycomb Alpha yoke on the table in the center. i almost need a modifed bracket that could handle the heavy CM2 base and grip but will not interfere with the "sticky mount" option of the Honeycomb Yoke. You see, i do both MS2020/X-plane and also DCS and also have the Bravo throttle quadrant sitting to the right of the yoke on the table (both sticky mounted).....perhaps i should choose just one or the other, lol...but I'm too spoiled now. It's hard to find real estate for everything, ugh.
Looks well made, but that's the craziest design for a red guarded switch I've ever seen! Bumping the guard should never change the switch state like that!
it doesn’t change the switch state, the guard is its own additional input
Very cool and looks like it adds a ton of options to the controls you can map.
I bought the Constellation Alpha and the VPC Mongoose t-50 CM2.
I love them and will definitely be buying more from Virpil.
When I finally get more money that is.
Just got my 2 button boxes in today, very excited to get them setup
The three bottom rotaries work by using digital encoders, and have encoder specific settings in the Virpil software. They work the same as E1 and E2 on the CM2 throttle
Correct
Love this gear. When iv finished my pc I'm Gona start to save for virpil gear. Looks amazing and good quality.
Wow! Virpil is really upping their game too. There are a several companies now that are really contributing to the space sim community in a way we've never been supported previously.
I like this one quite a bit but I'm going to wait a while to see how they come along with panel #2 and the others they're working on. I could see myself going with a panel #1 & 2 at the moment.
I can't wait to get my hands on my first piece of virpill gear
Wow...I don't need that but glad knowing others might and have a solution
YES!!!! this is gonna do nicely for my needs!
Just bought the panel... Running it through CM2 Throttle Aux.
Can not figure out the systems for setting the LEDs...
Otherwise both are super pieces of kit. Everything else works flawlessly...
So please hurry up with the follow up.
Thanks.
G
That panel looks cool!
While I do like it from what I can tell in the video I would have wanted at least 3 of the T5 - T10 switches to be switches that stay in the actuated position:
Lever is up? Power is on.
Lever is down? Power is off.
The real potracer experiance if you know what I mean ^^
That can be set to on off with matching lights..
I wish the software would allow you to assign “tempo” buttons for short and long holds like VKB does. The only solution right now is running vJoy + Joystick Gremlin. Would love a hardware memory loaded option.
Nice vid, as always !
Bought the WarBRD base with the Alpha Constellation Grip, T-50CM2 Throttle, and the control panel. Got it in 6 weeks. Once you open it, you know it's money well spent(unless you prefer hookers). Quality is exceptional and made to last.
What if you like hookers and video games
Great overview!!
A guy that uses mouse and keyboard. It would be nice to see you make a video of your personal set up. Watching how you have everything set up and what I’m missing out on when your flying. From buttons to stick or sticks. Or if you already have let me know so I can find it in your videos.
Hey Noob, can you do a special on advice for left handers? I don't know of any content providers that have provided a segment for those unfortunate 10% of the population. I would like to fly HOTAS but I can't find an ambidextrous throttle controller. I have tried with limited success to use my RAT8+ as a throttle controller. Its not pretty as using the mouse movement for a throttle isn't really supported by Star Citizen.
So I have gone back to dual stick. One minor problem I have with my dual stick setup is when I use my right stick pitch movement as a forward and back thruster is that it requires a hand on the stick at all times other wise in the neutral position the throttle is going to zero and stop the ship. I prefer a throttle control that is analog that can stay in a position like a typical HOTAS setup.
As usual great content and welcome back to America.
I can investigate for you, thanks for the kind words but I am Canadian 🇨🇦
@@NOOBIFIER1337 You are my fellow American!
North America for sure...
Would be nice if you could build a customized panel. Analog knobs & switches would be great for voice chat channel switching & voice volume control.
ok thx im getting one now
it should be very comfortable to sit in that pilot seat :)
Its not bad at all, still find it smart to get up after an hour and walk around, but yes, ergonomics is fantastic
Not sure if I need it. But I sure enough bought it.
thanks Noob. I fly DCS and youd think Id want it . Its pretty but I find I dont want it and dont need it. A throttle. Like the Hog or the Virpil. That makes sense. But this button box. Not so much.
Very interested in a tutorial for the configuration software for this one; I have it but would love to have the lights on the B switches turn on/off to indicate toggle state, but cannot for the life of me figure out how...
You can go on Virpil’s forums and probably find my discussion on this exact question. The short version is that it’s not currently supported.
Thanks for sharing.
That looks great. I wonder if you can use just the throttle and the aux panel without the joystick... I prefer a yoke for my main controls or a gamepad.
If I could, I'd take it even just to bind windows/software shortcuts for it.
I wish the 2 switches with the cover were on/off switches, I would have liked to use them for my power and engine toggle for sc accordingly
looks good but for a control box realistically you could just build one out of a project box (or 3d print one) and a teensy.
I don’t think the end result would be comparable.
Yes
Some day...those look great
It seems you're able to do a lot with the buttons led. I always feel like it's a diffucult/confusing thing in the virpil software. would you do a video/tuto about what you're able to achieve ?
Maybe if there's a future version with a 3-axis midi-joystick. I have the farm simulator buttonbox for E:D and it made a huge difference separating the secondary inputs (eg map control) from the primary flight controls. Problem is the quality of the farm simulator box is fairly poor.
this thing looks awesome
Need and want are different. But man it's hard for me to tell RN.. can you imagine having to set buttons up for EVERY ship you fly? I love this idea, but I will wait until the game is at least in beta so I wont have to keep re re re binding and inventing this MFD. Thx for the review mate.
Question for anyone else browsing the comments: I need to upgrade from my CH pedals since the potentiometers are getting really wonky and i'm sick of trying to deal with them. What flight pedals can i upgrade to primarily for durability?
MFG crosswind or Virpil
Panel 1 looks like it would work great with the misc prospector and many other ships as well as provide functions for other ships . My question is the red switches can they be use as missile safety and arming switches ?
The red covered switches are cool. If you push the red all the way down, there is a binding for safe, Bull it up 2mm that click is ready, then you can flip and activate the switch
@@NOOBIFIER1337 im thinking of running duel alpha sticks with pedals . not sure if i want just the left stick tilted or both sticks tilted . The button box for mining the 5 way mode switch comes in real handy too . Love your channel keep up the good work 👍👍👍👍👍
So....that configuration guide? How's that coming my man?
So question for you Noobifier... How do you handle swapping between flight controls to FPS controls quickly? Currently I play with Keyboard and mouse, but the Keyboard's lack of analogue input is beginning to grate on my nerves when trying to execute fine maneuvers. I've considered picking up a TM16000 for my left hand so I could go Stick and Mouse combo for flight, and keyboard and mouse for FPS but I hear the TM16000 has some parts that wear out quickly. Given that I'm looking for a low barrier to entry solution I think the TM16000 is the way to go to start, and then later build up to a more costly set of controls if I find I enjoy that, but I would be curious what your recommendations would be for getting into this hobby at different skill stages and price stages. Perhaps there is a video or two there where you could break down potential solutions, both by skill and and price point? Anyhow, always enjoy your videos, keep up the great work!
There is a barrier, but I play SC with Dual and throttle... for Star Wars I use HOTAS and other games are also not dual... so it’s easy to switch
Problem is, it's twice the price it should, and the winwing control panels exist, you can buy both the winwing panels that suits my use far better than this layout for not much more than what this cost.
I'm thinking out getting a bunch of viral stuff
I mean 300USD for something that is equal to an arduino and a lot of switches. Maybe for commercial use?
I really wanna get into Virpil stuff... time to save the pennies.
Is it Good, hell yeah! Do I need it hell No, Did I buy it? Of Course I did.
These should be much less expensive, I can't justify spending nearly $900 on a control rig setup. Although I'd do maybe 400 and maybe 500... But I've been playing with some open source options. I'm working with a group of students at the local community college, from Machine techs, networking (me) and software development to get something working using a simple controller. Right now our concept control board costs about $65 in parts and $30 in machined metal. But with 3D printers, this could come down A LOT.
And with injection molded plastic, the marginal price drops even more. Which is how the the T16000 and X-56 are a couple hundred and a few hundred each. Buy those, if you're on a budget. Niche sim gear made from machined steel and aluminum alloy isn't going to be cheap. Ever.
uf uf ,somtimes i am glad tham my wife got my cards ::)
Does anyone know if they (Virpil) or someone who has written a mod have come up with a way to program the LED's individually ? So in other words, I want just one LED to control the HOOK in an F18 for example for the hook down state of green, and then that same LED push-button turns red when depressed for Hook UP state. So one LED push-button doing two colors depending on the state of the HOOK in the F18. I'm not picky, how about two different LED push-buttons, one would be HOOK UP as Red when ON (lit), and below it another LED button light would be HOOK DOWN GREEN. Perhaps someone has written something, perhaps spad.next or another program or a custom written mod. But ideally, VIRPIL will write something so the firmware gets updated and then suddenly we get to control each and every light with anything we want to do!!!!!! ANY HELP FROM ANYONE THAT HAS FIGURED THIS OUT WOULD BE SUPREMLEY Appreciated!!!!! So far I've only been able to do this to ONE LED push-button, just one..
Moar buttons!! All the buttons! I guess it feels great depending on your stick(s)/chair setup but does it feel complete if added to a HOSAS setup?
Can't speak for this panel, but I find the extra buttons on the throttle I use (CM2) add quite a bit of usefulness. I fly HOSAS too and it lets me move non-essential controls off the sticks. Means I don't have to memorise as many button functions on the sticks, particularly once you start binding left-ctrl functions in.
What do you use to control the rudder? I don't see any foot pedals in the footage, and I was under the impression that the WarBRD and Mongoos don't have a twist?
Right thumb switch, but there are two sticks. WarBrd has Twist, Delta, VFX and Alpha have twist.. there is only MT50 that does not have twist.
@@NOOBIFIER1337 Ah so the twist is in the stick and not the base? Good to know, thank you.
Yes, mechanically easier to implement
i don't need it but i want it !
How do you remove the button caps to insert labels? I have the CM2 throttle, but I don't want to take the chance of breaking any button caps to add labels.
TIA,
HB
They are very tight. I have not done more than one and I dont plan personally to risk it ever again.
Does anyone know, how to control a LED in a button, by pushing the button? I don‘t want to change a complete shift!
You can not use a button to change the lights.. they are bindings
Where am I going to leave two Virpil Alphas, a CM2 throttle AND panel #1 (and later 2, 3 and 4) on the new Monstertech chair?!
As if you couldnt build a whole table on each arm with monstertech parts 😂
Any recommendations for a left hand stick, perfer just X and Y axis, no twist?
Alpha can lock Z
Are you using MonsterTech for the Throttle mount? I could not find a Virpl throttle base mount on their site
I am using Monstertech yes.
Virpil has pretty much disqualified themselves by the extremely limited amount of payment methods that doesnt even include PayPal.
You could try the US store..
Errr, no Vorpal link? Every product but the main product?
Can you show how the encoder dials on the panel map to dials in DCS or MSFS2020?
I can explain, there are two types. The Small ones work as key clicks, so left and right push a keybinding. The larger ones are analog and operate as an axis. I hope that helps.
How did you manage to set it up? I have the throttle working, but I have trouble setting up the button panel. Can’t find a manual and Virpil support is not responding.
Like this.. czcams.com/video/znDPY4dj-30/video.html but I will make a video.
Soooo no idea if your still checking comments on this video.. being literally a year old :D
But if you are... i have a question. Those 3 rotary looking buttons on the bottom. Are they unable to be 'used' as a rotary completely? or are they only able to be set up similar to a mouse-wheel instead?
They bind as buttons… turn left each click is a binding, turn right is another click button binding and push down, is momentary button
@@NOOBIFIER1337 so it would essentially be like rapid-tapping a button? (sorry for the newbish question, looking into getting some Virpil stuff and that board was one of them :) )
@@Gwydion_Wolf these dials are not analog axis, they are rotary encoder, each step in the turn are a keybinding, not an axis
What kind of tablet holder is this on the left?
Virpil is the way to go - I regret wasting time with my thrustmaster warthog stick and throttle.
Have you considered being a fighter pilot instead of a tank guy? You basically have all the sim gear now.
It's great but just too expensive compared to Winwing.
sim racing button box
Virpil Shmirple.. they should concentrate on being able to supply the products they have rather than hyping more products you have to wait 3months to get 😄 #saltymcsaltface
looks good though, the 3 rotary 'buttons' is a weird one however, they're labeled E for encoders & the PCB was stamped 'Encoders' ?!
It’s a digital encoder.
@@NOOBIFIER1337 cool.. so other than acting as a fancy switch as you demo's, what else can they do, or potentially do? Could you have one to cycle missile inventory, one for defence resources, and one to cycle your Comms list maybe, or friendly/hostile targets would be a good one?
Anything that has a Plus Minus keybind
I need this in my life
Looking at getting a virpil setup, I am wondering: Could you give a (rough) estimate (or guesstimate is good enough) on how long it would take for the gear to go from back order to shipping ready? Any idea?
2 weeks to a month
@@NOOBIFIER1337 Thanks heaps! A month, or two I can do. Was worried we'd talk half or a full year as some would have me to believe.
Do I need it? No but man would it be cool to just use
Come on CA Lotery🙏
Damn it. for a minute when you said VIRPIL MFD, I actually thought you meant an actual MFD.... but instead you just meant VPC Control Panel #1...
This is coming is 2025
Does it work with DCS World?
damn this shit all costs too much
guess its a good thing crypto is rockin while im getting into this shit
I wants it
Nop ! Virpil is not bielarus, it's located in Lithuania. (hopefully)
It was moved at the start of the war
@@NOOBIFIER1337 Smart move!
Does it work with xplane 11 ?
I just need one big red button to activate the middle finger emote.
Do you have a discount code for Virpil?
I did in 2017... sadly they do not offer anymore
Is there a hard stop on the encoders at 0 and 100%?
Of course, Or it would go to -10 and +110
Can you daisy chain throttle to box
Box to throttle yes
And I'm still waiting for the delivery of my lottery win. :-/
Makes me wonder why they are rolling new stuff out when they are always sold out on their current stuff. If I can't get a stick, there's no point in buying this.
Had a look on their website, I can afford the mouse pad :/