How to record on camcorder TAPELESS
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- čas přidán 14. 07. 2024
- I hope this video was helpful in the next steps of making recording on a camcorder easier.
The gear I used for my setup: Devbuild.digital
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This is a great idea for old analog camcorders! I have a Sony 8mm camera like yours and also an RCA Super VHS camcorder from 1987. They both work after replacing belts and cleaning. I tried to use the RCA SVHS camcorder to film 100% of my Buckner Bigfoot Expedition video however because the thing was so old it crapped out midway through the shoot. I ended up faking a lot of the footage using my iPhone, blowing out the highlights and shadows to reduce the dynamic range, adding noise, and actually copying the footage to VHS and back into the computer. Having a small digital recorder would've worked great! Making production faster is a great idea. Digitizing the footage and even directly transferring it off DV tapes via firewire is time consuming.
Keep in mind that this is only an option if you cannot find a portable DV recorder that connects to the 4pin firewire port (aka DV in/out) of the camera. Because with the AV method you are not getting 100% of the quality these cameras can deliver because you are letting the camera convert the digital audio and video to an analog signal which the little recorder then converts to digital audio and video once again. The Firewire plug of the camera allows you to connect it to a computer or a compact DV recorder that records the un.compromised raw DV stream and letting you record it as AVI or MOV files with the ACTUAL quality these cameras offer. At least the Digital8 and MiniDV camcorders. Not the Hi8, Video8 and VHS-C cameras. Those of course can be used normally with the AV cable method because there's nothing digital coming out from those.
i wonder if the quality loss is negligible since the original quality isn't that high to begin with.
Make a video & explain better bc we don’t know wtf you’re talkin’ about
@@12ammcnight he's saying that if a camera has a firewire output port, it would be wise to get a digital recorder with a firewire input if possible. The firewire port transmits more data than the other ports (like an RCA port) giving you better quality image if you use it. It's actually a great point to make!
What would you recommend for a DCR-TRV260? I’m trying to figure out how to do this
@@killian-flood ah it's a digital 8 camcorder. Well, i would definitely look for a compact DV capture unit like a Sony HVR-MRC1. I am currently looking for materials that basically allows anyone to turn a Raspberry Pi or Arduino into something like that at a fraction of the costs. Because there aren't much Tapeless DV capture boxes like that, which let you capture the raw original Digital Video & audio stream from the camera to DV avi files. Which is basically that this HVR-MRC1 does. You connect it via Firewire port of the camera and that little unit. It is essentially like Recording to Digital8 or MiniDV Tapes, just without the tapes. No quality loss. You get 1:1 of the quality this camera offers. And that thing works with every Mini DV or Digital 8 camcorder that has a firewire output jack.
Thanks for the video man, i was thinking of recording my monitor on footages with the camcorder to get the classic look, but this sames so much time.
I am going to do this now. Thank you!
That Lil sony Handycam was my first video camera... I once got lost in the woods after dark and had to use the green nightshot filter to find my way out!
This video gon’gO… trust.. also.. this is a great idea man! 🔥
Nice little hack. Thanks for sharing.
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@@Hijoflacko do u still need a memory stick to put inside the handycam if u have ur set up? i have a sony trv740 and when i turn it on it keeps telling me i need a memory stick but i have a hunch itll go away once i get the screen capture set up since theres a sd card in it right?
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None of those are VHS cameras, sir. Hi-8 and Mini DV. That’s what they are.
its not hi8, its digital8
so you basically dont know anything about this
I know bro. Called a Digital8 a VHS. IT SAYS IT ON THE CAMERA. Calls MiniDV "MiniDVD". This guy doesn't know shit.
I think he thinks the audio is being recorded on a reel to reel tape.
So what do I do then (honest question)
Funny guy, really cool! Gonna try this out
Let me know how it goes
Basically a handheld DVR. Very interesting hardware.
Yeah the only problem is that immersionrc is out of stock everywhere. Is there any other alternatives? 😢😢😢😢
I saw a youtube video where they use clearclick converter.
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Thanks a lot for the video, is there a Camcorder you could recommend to start out ? Curious about maybe getting one where i could attach a fish eye...thanks
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My guy got the contraption
Did you have to buy the lil spacer for the cord? Another video was saying the cable isn’t supposed to go in all the for this to work
My old sony DCR-TRV238 just died and i'm looking for a new system 😥
Did you notice any difference in iq with tapeless vs firewire with DV cameras?
Because those usually looked crisper and punchier when outputting via firewire or s-video rather than video composite (trrs/rca).
Also, firewire gave u uncompressed signal... which codec/bitrate/resolution does this immersive RC record?
Sure it's handy but i got very nice results with the FW method... like images looking crisp and almost HD-like but with that lo-fi vibe.
what camera did u use in the beginning ferrari clip?
I got a trv608 but the tape sign is just popping up what do you recommend?
nice
will this work with a minidv camcorder specifically the canon elura 85?
i use a capture card and run it into a laptop and record using OBS
hey! i have one sony handycam video 8 but it only have yellow and black outputs, video and audio. i dont have the 3 outputs, yellow, red and white, does it work? and how?
thanks
Thanks bro for not gate keeping
How did you make this sharp quality in the beginning of the video is there any filters or editing, or just RAW from ImmersionRC?
and did you record it from DCR-TRV525?
That was straight out of the immersionRC, no sharping on the clip. Just a little bit of colour grading and contrast.
Can I somehow make it to where I can add the audio with whatever I’m recording ?
Where did you get the cord? I can't find one yet hahah. Thanks ;)
cool idea. i checked out your IG, toronto based as well?
I got the powerplay but it doesn’t record audio, only the camera. Is there any option how to fix this problem?
where can i get soething like this? as in the camcorders
how much and how to buy it no buy option on website
What camera did you use in the intro?
where should I buy an immersive rc? Because the guys at devbuild seem to me to only sell cables and supports. Thanks!!
I just checked their site, they’re currently sold out of the Powerplay. Dunno if they will make more because these DVRs were quite specialist even within the fairly specialist scene of FPV drones. Many have moved to a digital system which would make this device redundant, though analogue broadcasting FPV still has its niche so maybe there will be more batches. Failing that it’d be worth seeing if they are being sold secondhand by someone who went digital and doesn’t need it any more
Does this apply to camcorders that the LCD screen is not functional anymore but everything works? I have a Sony HVR A1n camcorder from 2005, it records MiniDV as well
I have an ImmersionRC powerplay, the screen is fairly small but that’s an improvement over no viewfinder at all
i cant find the AV plug in/ i have a sony handycam vision steady shot CCD- TRV85 Ntssc what is my best option on how to film on a digital recorder
use a firewire cable instead
Have you got a link for the digitiser thing?
ImmersionRC PowerPlay in google.
How do you remove the icons when recording?
I ask the same. It disappears when you plug the AV cable?
I have a simular device from Clearclick that I record old video tapes too and my mini DV tapes as well. I never thought about using Luke that with my old 8mm Handy Cam. Only problem is. The Sony Handy Cam doesn't have any good batteries. I have compatible batteries for my video lights. But when I pop it onto the Handy Cam. It says not a genuine Sony battery and won't let itvwork
It's a bit overkill, but get a battery bank with AC output and use the DC plug that came with your camcorder, it's foolproof if you can't find a battery for it
@wetfeathers9971 Thanks I may have to try that.
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Does this work with a Sony DCR-TRV260?
I don’t have a A/V input that looks like that
Yes, Works with every hi8 mini dv vhs etc. camera as long as they have an A/V output. You may have three colored jacks, or a little jack that looks like an headphone jack but they both transfer digital video signal. Just look for the right cable that fits your camera.
@@gneskentertainment1041 thank you so so much!!
is that cable just a stereo 3.5mm to 3.5mm?
you would have to ask devbuild.jpg
it's a 3.5mm TRRS to TRS cable
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Please people dont listen to this guy. Mini DV is digital media, dont use analog connection. Use the firewire port to transfer video
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Does it record audio as well?
if it's one of those 3 ring 3,5mm plugs, it should include audio too. Like those Mini AV jacks that the Raspberry Pi2 has.
@@KRAFTWERK2K6 what's the cable name? Im trying to buying one on online shop but i dont know what it called. is it the same cable as audio cable TRRS to TRS? or it has spesific name or even its a different cable?
@@hellokick Well here's the catch. Sadly these type of AV RCA to TRS Cables have no standard what so ever. So the allignment of the channels to the TRS rings is always different. CZcamsr VWestlive recently did a great video about this issue with these cables. You should check it out and i hope it helps. You just gotta try out several cables that have the audio and Video connections set to the right TRS plug portions.
@@KRAFTWERK2K6 well if its the case, I will be broke after trying a lot of cable on e commerce cuz the cable is pretty expensive for me lol. But I think I wanna go to electrical technician to modified my trs to rca cable who came with the camera in the box when its new became trs to trss if its possible(I hope its possible tho). Thank u so much for the information. And i will check it out the video that u recomend
Does it alway recrod the ODS (On-screen Display) maybe I missed it but I didn't see any footage without the overlay. I'm not sure cameras of this era had "clean out"
I was wondering to
Can you still use a separate mic?
If it's connected to the camera input as it would be normally, then yes, it should work since the Audio output from the RCA plugs will export the sound from the microphone.
the immersionrc is way more expensive than doing tapes lol
game changer
does it record audio too?
Yes!
all the footage i've seen from this portable capture card looks a little too pixelated... i think i'll stick to the old method
Where can I get the Av cable ?
It’s just a trs to trs cable, cheap and ubiquitous
@@sharifsalem Trs to Trss to be exact
im trying to get that cable on e commerce in my country and it said "audio cable". is it the same thing?@@MightyEliOfficial
@@MightyEliOfficial *TRRS
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How can I get it here in Enugu Nigeria?
Please I need it.
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dug that's not a VHS camcorder, you can tell because it's not huge as shit
Those are Hi8 tapes and digital 8 not vhs!! Repeat not VHs
Just don't. These shitty things will discard one of the 2 fields into a 240p frame, which will ruin the quality of your video. I've also noticed that it's stretched into a 3:2 aspect ratio, so you should correct it to a 4:3 ratio by setting the pixel aspect ratio to around 0.8889 or 1.1853. Maybe you should either just record onto tape or get a capture card that inputs through FireWire.
...but if it never records to an actual tape, it's not going to look as "retro" as you're expecting it to. kind of pointless
LOL doesn't even know what format the camera is he is holding. That is not VHS. :)