Jared Goff’s Comeback | The Play Sheet | The Ringer
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- Jared Goff's numbers and eye test results are much better this year than on his former team, the Los Angeles Rams. What's behind the turnaround? The Ringer's Ben Solak makes the argument that being more comfortable under pressure, playing in smart offensive schemes, and having reliable offensive weapons around him have combined to give Goff a second wind during this Detroit playoff run. Watch 'The Play Sheet' on CZcams or Spotify every Wednesday at 8 a.m. PT.
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People who actually watch film appreciate Goff alot more than ppl who don't.
ppl who actually watch film realize how mid he is.
@@adamleicester9327 lmao ok
@@adamleicester9327 Literally the one thing he doesn't do well is move out of the pocket lol. The Lions offense has been built to minimize that weakness and Goff has run it about as well as any other QB could in this scheme imo.
@@adamleicester9327from a casual fan view point I can understand , if you actually watch film Goff is probably one of the most accurate quarterbacks in the league
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That Michael Macdonald visual gag at the end was super strong - hell yeah.
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Not too much of a Goff resurgence as it is more someone with a brain seeing this guy is actually good. Too bad Goff has had to remove the stain that McVay put on him and the media bought to finally get his recognition. Remember McVay put the Rams superbowl loss on Goff when he had zero running game since Gourley was fried and good ole Cooks dropped 2 perfect passes for TD’s from Goff
Goff is more willing to take a hit to complete a pass than he was, he's allowed to change protections (which he wasn't in Los Angeles), he's better at navigating the pocket, he has more experience at reading defenses, and he is now allowed to read them and figure out what works (as opposed to just being told where to throw under McVay). He handles the blitz better, and while he's still very susceptible to pressure, he's much much better at realizing when there might be pressure and making a quick decision before it can affect him.
He is better than he was in LA.
@@popeslinky This is definitely true. Certain top defenses can turn him back to 2018 but he has far progressed from his captain checkdown tendencies. And the pass offense he operates in shows that. He's not put in play action as often so when he can read coverages head on pre snap, he has the tools to make those adjustments (pass pro, motion, etc.) Overall the Lions have upgrades that helped him as a QB in the past (great O-line, efficient run game) but also new things he's incorporated to better his game. Like the pass game Ben Johnson lifted out of the Rams playbook for Stafford which has more shotgun looks. Then utilizing motion to move guys to help Goff read his pre snap coverages faster.
"Howdy. I'm Ben Solak and welcome to the Play Sheet." The two highlights of my week are fresh chocolate chip cookies from Cookie Corner and that phrase.
I think a lot of this was Goff going to a team that didn't have great expectations when he arrived in Detroit. From the minute he was drafted, the Rams had been in win now mode and there wasn't time to bring him along slowly and let him read defenses in game to learn on the job. It's how we got all the stories of going no huddle or quick huddle to get to the line of scrimmage for McVay to read the defense to him. He was a young quarterback who didn't have that as an NFL skill yet and the Rams were not in position to let him develop it.
Then he gets shipped to a Lions team that ripped it down to the studs. He didn't look good that first year and the idea that he was just a bridge QB got louder, but the thing he DID get to do that first season and then into the second was he was trusted to get up the the line and read the defense himself, to make adjustments both at the line and as the play developed. Then, second half of 2022 and now into 2023 we're seeing those decisions bear fruit. Not only is Goff a more complete QB who can make adjustments in ways he couldn't when he was younger, but he's also earned the trust of the coaching staff and his teammates.
Good on Brad Holmes for targeting Goff and on Dan Campbell for giving him that bit of rope to go out and develop. It's an indication of a quality franchise and as a Lions fan, we've never had that here until now.
It's been interesting to see the surge of good not great qbs that have been given coaching help and time and how it results in improved play. Baker, Geno, Jared, Tua.
What an epic laugh
Goff has always been a QB more than capable of winning a super bowl. He got an unfair bad rap because he was the fall guy for McVay's god awful coaching performance in the 2018 super bowl.
It wasn’t just the Super Bowl. We all saw the Bears game in SNF that year. We all watched Goff from the end of the 2018 season-midway through last year struggle to put together consistent stretches of good play. He’s gotten a lot better lately and good for him.
McVay very publicly took the blame for that Super Bowl.
I dunno bout winning an SB but there was certainly more to offer to his game post 2018 than I thought. No longer is he captain checkdown and having to make crazy post snap reads often after he turned his back to the defense. With the Lions you see more of the good stuff of his game in structure and even on late passing downs.
1) McVay just hired an assistant because he is self-aware enough to realize that sometimes he can't think quickly & clearly in the clutch. 2) He is one of The Best Offensive Play-Callers in the NFL 3) Most people cannot juggle these two disparate facts. Can someone here please _try?_
4) Here is the problem: no One System suits everyone. McVay teaches everyone what they need to then fly free without him holding their hand.
Goff _needs someone_ to hold his hand. *Watch* plays from his Lions highlight reel. He throws to places on the field *he can't even see* with more confidence than he improvises on 3rd down with. *That's* his strengths & weaknesses right there.
The precise reason he traded for Stafford was after meeting him McVay realized Stafford already knew how to do what Goff seemed incapable of learning. Skill-wise they're the same QB. Both can sling the ball. Personality-wise they are Very Different people.
Stafford suits more being the stereotypical QB people expect, Goff doesn't want that much responsibility. As a result, he does way better in a Ben Johnson style offense that throw To The Route. This incidentally is why Amon-Ra does so well there as well. He doesn't have breakaway speed or even great route-running ability. The Lions scheme it so that the timing makes most things work.
This is why the Lions are likely to continue having trouble with younger receivers & winning. The younger kids like having the freedom to run routes Their Way. The Lions' coaches, their HC in particular doesn't allow for individual freedom.
I'm willing to bet every other receiver they have would do better elsewhere.
Great explanation of how this player has changed over his career. Thanks for another great episode.
This was great
I’ll admit that I had little faith in Goff when he first was traded to the Lions. Frequently musing about who his eventual replacement might be when the rebuild really gets started. That whole 3-13-1 season I didn’t see much improvement until the end. Gambling Dan Campbell repeatedly put his faith into Goff and in his second season in Detroit something was different. It took almost half the year for that young team to learn how to win but now that they had a taste for it they just wanted more and that’s what we’re seeing this year. Go Goff! Go Lions! MCDC for coach of the year.
Solak revealing his inner 14 year old with that laugh
Great breakdown, thanks for sharing
I may not appreciate all of his NFL analysis, but there is no denying that Ben Solak was great in The Boss Baby.
Go Lions!
I love this series
You put a lot of emphasis on Goff's comeback on his additional experience, but I'm not sure that's the right way to frame his success.
To complete your example of additional experience you used the improvements of other Shanahan "system" quarterbacks like Kirk Cousins and Jimmy G. Those two quarterbacks show, in my opinion, what has really been the catalyst for Goff's reemergence: Confidence.
Kirk Cousins had flashes of talent in Washington, but he wasn't *that* dude. However, when he went to Minnesota and was given the keys to the car and pressure was put on him to succeed he showed his abundance of confidence and developed into a top-15 QB.
When Jimmy G came to the Bay after leaving New England, he had enough confidence to share with his entire team -- but under pressure in the playoffs he lost it. He questioned everything he did after that point; which is likely why he isn't successful anymore.
In the NFL, some players have intrinsic confidence that just has to be directed; others have to have their confidence built up. Kirk always had that confidence and just needed it directed by the Vikings. Jimmy G had his confidence built in NE -- and he likely would be a very good QB there right now had he never left.
In my opinion, Goff didn't have confidence when coming into the league. He needed it built up and McVay didn't do a good job of doing that. However, the entire Lions franchise committed to Goff and let him make mistakes as learning moments and not do-or-die moments. The pressure of needing to be great right this moment wasn't what he needed, but it's what McVay and the Rams wanted.
The difference between LA Goff and Detroit Goff is confidence. In Detroit he's going to do what he needs to do because he knows he has the support of the organization. He didn't have that support in LA.
Well said
Good point about the DCs. That said, Johnson is no slouch with being inventive. Damn good video though and nice breakdown of how Goff grew up. 💪
It's a real life Disney movie. No one believes in you. You prove the doubters wrong and now they're cheering for you.
Nice sneaky Mike McDonald image swap. I saw what you did there.
We love Ben Solak
A lot of Niners fans have been trashing Goff and the Lions. Goff is a better QB than Purdy, with way more experience. He's faced their style of defense already. If the Lions start running wild like GB did (which they can and should with a better o-line and RB's than GB has at this point in time), he can really tear up the Niners off play-action and even out of the gun. Sometimes Shanahan has a hard time adjusting when his game plan stops being the best way forward. Ben Johnson can exploit this defense, and I'm smashing the Lions at +7.
He's great with a top 5 offense line. No top 5 line and he's in trouble.
you could say the same with 95% of starting QBs in the league rn lmao
Go lions
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People fail to credit that Patriots defense against the Rams/Goff in that Super Bowl. They only saw the game as boring because Belichick and his defense portrayed a fucking masterclass.
Goes to show its easier to explain master class offense than defense in football. But its also more intuitive to explain master class defense when they have specific game plan to stop a juggernaut offense with weak links.
That’s a stupid sounding laugh 😂
Dude that saints receiver ran back into the defense instead of making a play on the ball. In the NBA we call this free throw hunting or flopping.
If you watch closely you notice that the wideouts are doing this basically every time. If they realize the ball is not catchable they throw their body into the defense and hope for a whistle. The Packers and chiefs specialty this year lol
DPI hunting has been more prevalent with how pass happy the NFL has been. Its strong because its a fresh set of downs and the ball spotted where the foul occurred.
Goff is disrespected because he shit the bed in the Superbowl bad and also cause he's a tad boring some times.
Listen, blonde Kirk Cousins is the truth. If Nick Foles can do it then so can Cousins, Goff, even Baker or Dak maybe idk
Why do people think the saints play is a foul. The ball is passing them as he hits him. That's allowed
lol u cant be serious
Now that I’ve watched a few of this guys videos it is so obvious he creates the narrative he wants. On the Purdy video he showed all the bad plays. He showed none of Goffs. That dropped INT in the end zone was terrible among others. if you walked away thinking Goff is anything more than a just good starting level QB you’ve been fooled. If you want a more honest QB evaluation watch The QB School. This guy sucks.
man ben, need a manlier laugh lol
genuine laugh is the best laugh