Watch this to Prevent a Costly Quick Attach Repair
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- čas přidán 28. 09. 2016
- Front end loader quick attaches are awesome tools. You can take your bucket off the tractor by raising two levers (one on some tractors) and curling out then you can put on pallet forks, a bale spike, a grapple, etc., then lock everything down by reversing the process. Most newer small tractors (except Deere, they had to be different and have their own system) use the skid loader-compatible quick attach systems. That means anything that will fit a skid loader will fit your tractor. It's a great system, as long as the two plates that are on the front of the loader fully extend into the female bracket that's on the attachment. Problem is, sometimes they don't.
If you're new to tractors, or, like I was, you're in a hurry, it's possible to get your attachment on the front end loader, but it's not really ON, and occasionally the levers that move the pins don't get seated. What usually happens is one side is on with the pin in the correct place, the other side, well, the pin is outside of the bracket, so basically your attachment is half on and half off. So, it you put it under load, something has to give and many times the front plate on the loader gets tweaked and that's an expensive fix.
You'll probably understand this a little better when you watch the video, it's one of those situations that's hard to explain. I always make sure the plates are totally flush with the bracket on the attachment, and after I've pushed the levers down I tilt the bucket so I can see if everything looks right. A little time spent while hooking up will insure that everything is seated properly and you're ready to go to work safely.
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And, of course, a great big THANK YOU! for all the great videos. Most of what I needed to learn for my purchase was on your channel. Awesome work.
Mike - Awesome tip. I will be using this in a few weeks when we are back on our property. This is an important workflow for using the quick attach. I haven't had any problems yet but I can see how I would be fooled without knowing it and the incur an expensive repair or damaged equipment. Thanks!
Hey Mike! Love your videos and watch them all! Here is a quick note that may help somebody someday,, and it's what NEVER to do! One winter night I needed to put my bucket on to clear my driveway, I live out in the country. I went to mount my bucket, but some ice had built up in the holes on the bucket, and the little tabs wouldn't go into the holes. So, I lifted my loader up so I could get underneath with a big screwdriver and hammer, to clear out the bucket holes. I had the loader up high, and the bucket was basically swinging freely from the top of the SSQA plates.. (in other words, the bucket was just hanging from the top of the plates). As I started to hammer the ice out of the holes from underneath, the bucket got just enough swing to fall off of the QA plates and came straight down, barely missed my head (the bucket actually scraped my nose on the way down), and landed on my feet. Luckily, I had steel toe boots on, so it didn't smash my toes.. but man it still HURT! And I learned a VALUABLE lesson.. don't ever trust a bucket, pallet forks, or anything else to hang on by the top of the plate only. Lesson learned and thankfully without a concussion (or worse)!
Mike, I've got about 25 hours on my NH TC45. I have been consulting your videos periodically to great effect. A hearty thank you ! GZ
You're welcome! You'll really like that tractor...
Love your vids: short, sweet, to the point, then OUT! Also, appreciate the way you respectfully request a viewer subscription instead of saying, "Subscribe, share, and like." (That absolutely gets under my skin.)
As with many others, this has happened to me in not getting the bucket flushed. Now I pick up my bucket (or other attachments, lean them back and jiggle the system (back and forth). This seems to help it settle in and I've never missed having it connect since I learned that.
Yep, had this happen once but I always attach slowly, lift FEL attachment only several inches and give an up and down shake. I then back away from anything that could be harmed/damaged and slowly raise and curl the FEL so I can see the 2 pins protruding the appropriate retention lock slots. Then with bucket in proper position, give the FEL a slight jiggle to make it bounce. Once it's in place, it's safe. Thanks for the good safety tip Mike. It could save tractor users from injury or costly repairs.
Great recommendations. I had this happen once early on. Fortunately I checked by sending the loader and buckets through its motions and had no load on the bucket. This is when I found the issue. Now I always verify that the prongs are protruding through the correct holes and don’t just trust that the implements are attached. Better safe than sorry.
Mike love all the advice and vids, I guess since I got a new 38hp Green machine this doesn't really apply but I like having the knowledge in case I have the chance to operate other stuff sometime down the road!!
More great advice. Thanks, Mike!
As always thank you for the post. I realize it is 6 years old at this point, but the information is still valid. Why comment? As I understand it the number of comments posted is somehow important for you. Could be I just am bored or what to feel “special”.
You're welcome! Your comment may have made CZcams's algorithm feel special about me and it is much appreciated! I'm not sure how all of that works, but comments somehow show your level of interest and will help YT feed you more similar videos so you continue to watch until your eyeballs fall out :)!
Good Video Mike. Thanks
Another great video.
Thanks mike
It also helps to stand in the bucket to "set" the bucket on the quick hitch plates. Make sure there isn't an object that is between the bucket and hitch plate that is preventing a positive lock of both handles.
Mike I wish my tractor had a loader. Big mistake not getting it when I ordered the tractor. Cheers.
Almost had that problem Thursday but luckily I caught it before it came off.
I give my bucket or forks a small bounce and then stand on them locking quick connect. Don’t rush anything around tractor, never got hurt but broke stuff rushing..
Good informative video. Did forget to mention Euro mount styles, very common, large and small HP sizes.
Yeah, that's a really good point. I've been resisting discussion about Euro because I didn't want to confuse folks who are new and still trying to figure out what a quick attach even is. You get up around 70 hp it's very common and it's pretty much all there is on the bigger tractors because their lift capacity exceeds what skid loader Q/A's are rated for. That will be a video I'll do this winter when I need topics. Thanks for pointing that out!
Tractor Mike Yes I've been blessed with a TN-70A with a Euro mount, I like it, easier to use than a skid steer, of course my T-5 115 has skid steer mount. can't really interchange attachments without adapters, but the 100 HP+ Euro mount wouldn't interchange either so I guess it's a moot point. Are you close to Springfield MO? I'm just south of Harrison. Enjoy your videos, Thanks
Well, that is WHAT I DID WRONG. Now the quick attach piece on the loader is a bit twisted, any advice on how to fix it?
1st: Thank you for all your informative videos. I watch them often. Secondly, do you have a video showing how to hook up with a skid steer type attachment? I just got a new tractor with that on it and I'm having a heck of a time changing attachments. I used to have a JD and it was simple to hook the arms into the top loops, curl it back and put in the lock pins. Now, I find myself moving back and forth, up and down, all around trying to hook the lip on the attachment to lift it and set the pins. I find myself not wanting to use the tractor if it means changing the loader attachment that's on it. Can you offer any advice?
I'll try to do a video on that soon. A lot of it is just practice, after a while you get a "feel" for the correct angle to come at the bucket when you're attaching. It's hard to estimate from the tractor seat how high off the ground the quick attach is and what angle it's at, I find myself making last minute adjustments and I don't always hit it the first time. That will make a good video...stay tuned!
just an FYI westendorf also has their own quick attach system
How long has the quick attach been around? I am looking to buy a 5 to 6 years old tractor. I hope it will have the quick attach feature. Thanks for the informative Video.
It's been around at least 25 years. There's a really good chance a 5-6 year old used tractor will have it. There are companies that make conversion kits if it doesn't but it's a little expensive to change.
Can tilt the bucket if I move to the right real easy, if I move it normal speed it tilt back. All other positions work great but tilt forward and it flips back.
The neighbor has a Bobcat with hydraulic locking for the bucket. sometimes it won't close properly and I have noticed the the "plates" on the loader are NOT flat and parallel anymore. Often times an operator gets in a hurry and with manure or other debris on the plates the don't lock in all the way and when the bucket ends up coming loose, one side or the other gets bent.
I want to know if anybody has had any success at straightening the plates so they lock in properly? He has an old bucket that he never uses and I thought about trying to connect one side of the loader arms to the opposite side of the bucket and use the offset bucket to push against an immovable object"cement footing" to try to bend the plates back square with the frame. It may sound crude, but if it will connect that way, it might make enough leverage to help fix the problem.
Thanks for the video. I have a TN75 w/quick attachment. If you're looking at it the right one has been hard to get down into the locking position for awhile now. Yesterday, I was hooking up a bale spear and I can't get the right one down at all. I took off the spear and can't even get it down with nothing on there. Any ideas how to break it free? Thanks..
I'm afraid you've tweaked the quick attach faceplate. Some of New Holland's quick attach systems weren't all that heavily built and that's a common problem. You may be able to figure out where it's bent and get it hammered back into position, but once they're tweaked, it's really hard to get them to fit right again.. If you have to order a new one, check out the ones on my website. They'll be heavier built that the original and not near as expensive as a new one from New Holland. You should be able to find one for your loader at this link: asktractormike.com/ford-new-holland-quick-attach-replacement-plates/.
I recently purchased my tractor (a Jinma) with a "universal skid steer" FEL. Turned out the FEL plate didn't quite follow the universal standard (14.5" high instead of the 16.5" high plate). The dealer's solution was to just weld a plate to the attachment, which would not work for renting a quick attach grapple/ bush-hog/ etc. Is there a simple solution for finding a truly standard plate that fits my FEL bolt pattern?
I'd like to tell you there was a simple way to fix what you have but I'm afraid it would be somewhat involved and a little expensive. Depending on where you are I could probably direct you to someone who specializes in making tractors without skid steer compatible quick attaches get them. You have to scrap what's on the front of the loader and replace it with a new one, and you have to make detailed measurements of the front end loader arms so a replacement could be made. Then, you have to get universal skid loader plates (the female part) welded on whatever attachments you now have, after chiseling off what's on there now. It would be easy to rack up $600 or more in the process to get the universal quick attach. The same process is involved in trying to go from a pin-on to quick attach. I wish I had better news...
Mike,
Can you tell me if a Bush Hog 2346QT loader is skid steer attachment compatible?
Thanks!
I'm not sure, but I don't think it is. Early Bush Hog loaders had their own quick attach that, if memory serves, looked like a skid loader compatible mount, but weren't. Check with your local Bush Hog dealer and they'll be able to tell you for sure, or e-mail me some pictures of both the loader mount and the bucket part at mike@asktractormike.com and I should be able to tell.
Will do. Thanks for the help Mike!
I have a rear tire that is filled with liquid and it is leaking through the valve stem. The valve stem is broken, and i can't take it out with a valve stem tool. I am thinking about jacking it up and cutting the valve stem off to get all the liquid out to make the tire lighter. Do you take off your tractor tires or do you call someone?
I'd recommend taking it to a tire shop that does that kind of work. That's what I would do, but I have one pretty close. Some of those shops do mobile work.
Hey Mike is there away to add a bobcat power attach? That way you don't have to get off tractor when changing implements. Can not find a video on CZcams. Thanks.
Ryan, not that I know of. That would be a great feature, I've seen it on construction equipment, never seen it on a tractor.
I think it could be done fairly easy with a diverter valve jumping off the curl or lift circuit. Then a cylinder from left to right along the loader side quick attach with a pivot to engage the pins. I would recommend looking into how a kubota r630 hydraulic attach works. I prefer the style that is on a small cat wheel loader as the cylinder runs vertical for engaging the pins as opposed to horizontal for the kubota. On a tractor it might be more fabrication though.
I've got a brand new bucket for my Branson tractor and cant get it to connect. The grapple has worked great but those tabs wont fo down more then 1/4". Driving me crazy. Any suggestions
Hit the whole mechanism with WD-40 first. If you're not lined up just right, one or both of the levers may not go down. Make sure the faceplate is flush with the back of the bucket (like what I was showing in the video), also that the faceplate is center with the female part on the bucket. All the way to one side or another and they may not go down (and usually there's only about 1/4"-1/2" play. You may have to get a pipe to go over a handle to force it down. Here's bad news, if you've ever hit something with the bucket or not gotten the bucket on all the way and started using it, you can tweak that faceplate and then they get real hard to hook up. Sometimes they can be hammered back in place, other times they have to be replaced and that can be expensive. I hope its not that, that's what the video was referring to. Good luck!
@@TractorMike I tried everything and for whatever reason it just wont fit. There was about a 1/4" crack at bottom of plate so it's not flush. I ended up grinding the holes on the bucket about 1/8" and got it hooked up
How does one get the pins unstuck?
My quick attach has not been used for 20 years.
Levers go up only 1/2 way.
I have sprayed PB Penetrating oil on it every day for 1.5 weeks & tried to hit the pins up from the bottom with a sledge hammer & 1” SS rod.
No movement can be seen
Thoughts?
is it binding on anything?
I have a b2320 Kubota that has a 23hp diesel engine. it's a 2008 with 700 hours. I change the fluids more often then required. my question is how many hours can I expect from this tractor?
It's not uncommon for tractors to give productive lives of 4,000-6,000 hours. You don't quite average 100 hours a year, but if you did, and you got 4,000 hours out of it, that's 40 years. Unless you need different features or a larger or smaller unit, you may well have purchased the only tractor you'll need. Oh, if we could get our cars to last that long :)!
Thanks for answering my question.
Hi I am using a kubota b2231. I have only 8 hours on it and this is my first tractor. Today I removed the standard bucket, and installed the pallet-holder. Afterwards, I cannot go back to bucket, because it simply does not fits - I cannot close one side of the pins. One part is fine, second part - seems like the hydraulic cannot close completly. After I leave it, it opens little bit slowely and stays. I can put it back with the joystik, but it's still not engouch to close the pin, and after few seconds the hydraulic is opening little bit. On the end I cannot attach my bucket. Wonder what went wrong?
I'm not exactly sure what happened there, I sure hope the front face plate isn't bent or tweaked. Good luck!
I’m having trouble trouble finding conversion kit for a mahindra 4110 and ml 112 loader, can you help me out?
Keith, here's a link to what you need: asktractormike.com/product/mahindra-ml08-ml108h-ml112-ml114-front-end-loader-pin-style-bucket-to-skid-steer-quick-attach-conversion/. The kit includes the quick attach faceplate that converts the loader to skid loader compatible quick attach and a weld-on bracket for the bucket that converts it. They currently take about 10-12 weeks to build and ship. Please let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks! -Mike
That's why Deere's is so much better I have both but really like the deere system better
Deere has a much better system
But you can't buy the parts for it.Don't bend your pins or it will cost 88 bucks for 2.Noone sells just the pins
you could have left your bucket and went back to get it after the rain
Amature mistake,wow