Skid Steer Quick Coupler Attachment Tips
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- čas přidán 23. 03. 2022
- We encourage nearly all tractor buyers to consider the skid steer quick attach system instead of the traditional pin-on bucket. Neil demonstrates how to connect an implement with the quick attach system, and provides some cautions to prevent a mishap.
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Great advice, Neil! Thanks for keeping us all on track with things that could easily be overlooked. I take for granted how easy it is to switch attachments, but I'm grateful I'm not doing it the old way! 👍💪
Great advice. My challenge is snow and ice causing issues with the quick attachment. Both packed in between the loader and implement and ice in the pin holes. Always looking for this problem in winter use for me.
Great tips for the SSQA. Take your time is very important.
I converted my B3200 LA504 loader to SSQA using a Kubota bracket and then had to buy a weld on plate for the original bucket. This was a great investment, and allows be to run a grapple. I can't imagine not having this on a newer model. Great video as always Neil!
I could sure use that equal Angle hitch hanging off that MoCo behind you! LOL
After 20 years with the B2410, the QA on the L4060 is a dream!
Just spoke with my dealer and after 8 months of owning my BX, I'm still waiting on my mid-mount mower LOL. Ugg...mowing season is coming, up pretty fast.
The SSQA is really a must have, even if you don't plan on taking the bucket off much, it'll help in resell value later on. I just have the bucket and pallet forks for my BX, not much else to really put on a sub-compact that isn't going to break things. Most of my work is ground type work, so box blade, roto-tiller, and hopefully soon a rear grading blade.
Coming from someone who runs heavy construction equipment everyday it was taught to me to always check to make sure your bucket or attachment is properly on and what we do is driving to the attachment pick it up and curl the attachment all the way back and shake it a little bit and then lock your pins then place the attachment on the ground and put weight on the attachment that make sure that it's properly locked
Those couplers look great, wish they had that setup when I bought my bx24
Good video. I always try to lift so that when I attach a different implement , I can see that pins seated properly and I have a solid connection.
I pickup and deliver for a Kubota dealer.
👍 can't imagine my 2650 without it! Uncoupling the bucket on some level blocks makes it easier to see and get my pallet forks under there.
Good into I've had some of these problems over the years myself.
Great video as always
Loved that you didn't mention JDQA with a green implement behind you. Slick move!
Seems like even they have moved on from that.
good points...my tractor it is hard to see the target area. I spray paint target area a contrast color.
I wouldn't do without it ,but one thing I recommend is grease the top locating lands because the friction stops the
implement aligning with the bottom location ,just like having dirt in between.
Yeah keeping those pins lubed up is huge
FWIW: i quite often remove the front bucket and leave it off when I'm using my tractor for field or orchard mowing.... it makes your tractor some 2-3 feet shorter out front, and its easier to see when mowing
Great video - any chance of getting a similar video on the coupler(s) used by the Kubota SCL1000 and the mini excavators? BTW is there any reason that subcompacts couldn't/don't use the same CII coupler as the SCL1000? The implements used on stand-on compact loaders would seem much more appropriately sized to sub-compact tractors.
Best thing I did was get it on my B2601. I use pallet forks almost as much as the bucket and have sometimes switched back and forth a couple of times in the same day.
My Emax 20 came standard with the quick hitch , great to have.
Thank you Sir! Great information!!
I had same problem with fitment with the SSQA so all i do now is step on the bucket or forks while clamping them down.
I just got a new 3902 HST with the LA526 loader and I’m not sure why but I have to fight getting the QA bucket back on the tractor. Doesn’t fall into place like my old 2501 LA525 loader QA.
It’s hooked at the top good and square and don’t see anything obstructing the fitment but I always have to swing the bottom of the bucket out and let it sort of slam against the loader QA to seat in place! Was hope it just needed to wear in a little bit and it would get better! I only have 8 hrs on the tractor. I guess I’ll have to look closer at it at some point and see why the problem is if it doesn’t get better on its own soon!
Yep! I bought a SSQA attachment off eBay and it had a very loose fit. It actually fell off while using it. They refunded me some money and I wound up shimming it. Works fine now but don’t just assume it’s going to be a perfect fit.
Another one to look out for is the pin getting rotated around and it won't engage with the lever. Depending on your current coffee content, you might stare at it a bit before you see the angled pin is backwards. This happens once or 2x a year on my B2601.
Definitely can relate to poor fitment on overseas/ cheap attachments. I bot a hay spear and not only is the fitment terrible, the spears themselves are poorly cast and they are much weaker than my previous hay spear.
A project of mine is to get one of my old "antique" tractors that still earn their keep switched over to Skid steer quick coupler. For now it sits with no loader because the loader is worthless without being able to switch between bale spear and bucket easily. The project is easy and straight forward, I'm just lacking the motivation and time to get it done.
I just recently switched attachments on my tractor loader for the first time and I was surprised how easy it was to do. I see people struggling with it all the time when they first start doing it.
I can't figure out how to detach the bucket. Any hints, after unlatching it, do you curl up or down, and how do you loosen it?
@@lisahatfield2642 curl down and then drop the loader and back out.
Hey Neil, does anyone make 3 point pallet forks? Thank you.
I converted my 1999 L3010 to SSQA several years ago. Wish I had done it sooner.
I would like to have a grapple hook for a 25-01 Kubota that does not have to have the third function valve to operate it
Just acquired an L3010 with a Woods 1012 FEL. Is there a SSQA for the Woods1012? I see options for other Woods models
Good info, something I would not though about good video.
I've made this mistake before and had my bucket fall off and into my trailer when I was loading up debris before. Let me tell you that bucket is heavier than it looks. Had to rig up some chains to get it out.
For me, it was switching from my snow pusher to my bucket to move around snow and ice. Well unbeknownst to me, the bucket was seated properly but the pin did not lock on one side due to ice in that section of my bucket. Before using the bucket, tested it, yanked on it by hand, the whole thing to be confident that it was safe to use. Alas, it wasn’t and off came the bucket on one side. Fortunately, I had the load about 6” from the ground and no apparent damage. Never made that mistake again. Even when everything looks good, is tested, it can still go wrong.
I found on my BX23S that the bucket didn't always line up correctly and the pins wouldn't seat properly when putting it back on, even when the debris had been cleared away. So what I end up doing is lifting the bucket up, getting off the tractor and pulling the bottom if the bucket out, and swinging it back towards the coupler. This aligns the bucket properly and the pins will push down into place.
Same tractor same problem I just jump on the bucket to get it to seat properly the lock the pins
But have no problem with any other attachments
@@rtlake The only other front attachment is a grapple, and it fits good every time.
On my BX23S which I bought brand new the bucket has never went on by itself from new . I have to jump on the front of the bucket to get it to seat. But the other attachments fall right on no problem.
Why don't you fix it?
I have an older tractor with a now discontinued Koyker loader. As an engineer/fabricator/welder I can make one that works, however, is there a good aftermarket one available, and roughly how much do they cost....
There is universal plates u can get probably save ya a ton of hassle and all ya would have to do is attach to your machine
When I was 15, I broke a hydraulic hose on a grapple bucket because it wasn't coupled correctly to the skid steer and it fell off... you definitely need to make sure the attachment is coupled properly!
Great Video as always - one question I have is can you still have the SSQA with a 4 in 1 bucket? or is this not an option?
Yes
Doing it Wrong is not easy except for ME but Neil can also find away! He just has to try much harder than I do!
Can I retro fit my 2016 BX25D with quick attach coupler? Thanks Rick G.
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On my Kubota tractor my Kubota bucket stays on well but my bobcat forklift and hay spear will fall off. Can this be adjusted? They work well on my bobcat.
Happens with cheap forks and stuff. Need to use a grinder on the slot on your implement.
My dealer told me after attaching using the quick attach always stand on the front attachment and jump up and down. He said "this makes sure it is attached"
does it add weight, reducing the amount of material you can pick up in comparison to pin ons?
SSQA does slightly reduce the max lifting because of its extra weight compared to pin ons. however the difference is not something that you will really notice, especially in the size of work you do on anything at the SSQA size, its really only when you get to proper front loaders like a jcb 407 or equivalent where the difference really is notable.
They add more weight and make the bucket further away. Not by much, but it does change the max weight that can be lifted
Hi Neil, Can I convert my New Holland 25S with the Quick Attach System?
Yes
Hey Neil, Do they make the locks on ssqa on tractors hydraulic like on some skid steers. Thanks for videos I don't own a tractor but still learn a lot from videos. Eric
Neither really have locks.
I am sorry Neil. I didn't word it correctly. Do Tractors have hydraulic locks like skid steers. Our new skid steer at work we push a button to unlock the attachments.
On t h e Grand L series you can get a hydraulic assist on your skid steer Attachments as an option. We ordered for ours which is coming in soon.
@@erichedges2948 Its an option on some, but not a popular one at all.
I have it on my L6060 and wouldn’t be without it. It will spoil you. If your changing between bucket and grapple it probably wouldn’t be as handy cause you still have to hook up third function hoses but if you constantly swap between bucket and pallet forks it’s amazing . I think it’s part #L2272 if you want to look it up
Euro global is much preferred! Over skid steer type. It’s self locking after picking up the implement
How many implements do you find for the Euro system in the US? He said 90% in US are skidsteer type.
If you’ve ever used Euro you would want anything else. Euro global is used heavily in the 75hp and larger tractors by REAL full time farmers it’s self locking and much much easier to line up and pick up implements with the loader. I totally agree that skid steer QA is the system of choice for 70 hp and below especially the compact and subcompact tractor market.
@@genewilliams7497 What percentage 75hp and up use Euro?
If only get one side locked you can bend the bar between the two plates.
#1 tip: Park and store implements on solid, stable, LEVEL ground.
The Land Pride grapple I got from you is super fussy to put on unless the tractor and the grapple are sitting perfectly level with each other. Not a complaint, just a helpful hint if you have are having trouble attaching an implement.
Unfortunately there are those of us who bought before the whole SSQA craze existed. So now we have our pin on attachments. What I find amazing is that if I invest in a SSQA adapter for my loader, I then have to destroy the pin on attachments by welding on an adapter plate. Let's be honest, the dimensions of the loader arms and hydraulics are pretty fixed for the machine in question. So why can't the adapter plates be made with pin on hubs on one side and SSQA on the other so that if a person wants to eventually sell an attachment the pin on option still exists as well as the SSQA. I have thought about converting my BX, but do I want to cut and weld my attachments....NO. Maybe you know someone who makes the adapter plate I mention, but thus far I have not found them.
You can get a pin on quick attach. I have one for my B2601 (SSQA is not a thing in NZ). The quick attach fitting only goes on the tractor, it uses the existing pins on your implements (on my bucket and on my forks). It's not as good as SSQA in some ways - more fiddly on and off, but it definitely is an improvement on banging pins in and out, and it doesn't rob quite as much capacity as SSQA does. And no welding/modifying your implements.
@@paullambert2668 thanks Paul. I realize you can get the tractor outfitted. It’s the actual attachment that has to be cut up to make it SSQA comparable that is frustrating. Why can’t the adapter plates be made with pin on hubs rather than cutting and welding?
@@davidmartin7660 I think you're misunderstanding. If you go with the pin-on style quick attach the implements don't need any modification at all. But if you want the SSQA style, then yes you need to modify the attachments. Making a pin-on SSQA plate would further add weight and push the attachments further forward. I also suspect it wouldn't be as strong.
Just buy/weld the pin brackets onto the SSQA implement plates? The SSQA conversion plates are flat on the implement side so seems like an easy job. Or if you have a lot of implements make them yourself and save a fortune.
Careful... don't roll back all the way or it can trap the handles.
Keep an attachment on it...
Clean debris off of it regularly.
GREASE IT.
Unless you're strictly working crops, why would anyone buy a Tractor? Skidsteers are so much stronger, faster working and, given the scores of available quick attachments, much more versatile - and all at a similar price to a 35HP tractor TLB compared to a Wheeled skidsteer. After using a tracked Kubota skidsteer (or Wheeled skidsteer with Over Tire Tracks - if cost or ground speed is a deciding issue), you'll look back on your use of a tractor as a rather silly waste of time.
So there will be several reasons. Your cost comparison is not really correct. You're including several implements on the tractor, but not on the skid steer. Many people don't want skid steers because of the turf damage they cause. The implements overall are significantly more expensive on the skid. We sell a lot of skids, but it's a different animal.
Never seen someone mowing their lawn with a skid steer. Just saying......
I was going to make a smart ass comment because I think your completely wrong, but something just occurred to me, and it is an honest question.
Do skid steers have rear PTO’s? If they don’t, ( and maybe they do) that would be just one more reason I think your wrong.
I have 6 implements/ attachments that I regularly use on the back of my two tractors.
Euro is better!
Where are you finding deals on implements with the euro attachment?
Imported implements nice way of saying Chinese Junk!