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  • @Syntell
    @Syntell  Před 25 dny +21

    For those that missed our amazing livestream yesterday we talked to everyone and tried to answer as many questions as we could. Thank you to everyone who participated. We can't wait to do another one. czcams.com/users/liveiPT0DpLL8MM?feature=share

    • @HuntingViolets
      @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny +1

      It was very interesting. I still end up commenting on this reaction on its own terms. :) Looking forward to the last two and season three.

    • @deemo7868
      @deemo7868 Před 24 dny +3

      The livestream was great. I always talk to you guys when I watch your reactions. It was fun to have you talk back

  • @Anneee27
    @Anneee27 Před 25 dny +132

    the money was not for kate. just for edwina and mary. kate is not related to the sheffields (which is also why edwina is the one who had to marry, and not kate. she would have been the one to get married if she could have), she doesn't get any money.

    • @kaseykey7378
      @kaseykey7378 Před 24 dny +37

      Exactly! Kate isn’t trying to better herself and get money and power. She just wants that for Edwina, to have the life Edwina should have had as Mary’s daughter if not for Mary marrying Kate’s father

    • @sarahcoleman9912
      @sarahcoleman9912 Před 24 dny +17

      Correct. Kate was going to go home and get a job as a governess.

  • @lefromthecity
    @lefromthecity Před 25 dny +79

    🙄 Kate denies Anthony at every turn and they still think she’s the one that doesn’t understand her duty 🤦🏾‍♀️.
    *sigh, it’s fine it’s just a reaction

  • @jdr796
    @jdr796 Před 25 dny +165

    i love edwina don’t get me wrong but her saying anthony can’t give her what she wants as if kate hasn’t been telling her that for god knows how long is so unserious😭

    • @dancemachine1919
      @dancemachine1919 Před 24 dny +8

      Eh I think it makes sense to say because just from how he looked at Kate at the altar it was clear he was capable of love and he was already in it with her own sister. Until that sunk in, I believe Edwina thought there was a chance for love to grow between her and Anthony.

    • @em8066
      @em8066 Před 24 dny +9

      Anthony in Ep 2: "I can't give you what you truly deserve, but I'll marry you for duty."
      Edwina in Ep 2: "Oh, at least he's honest."
      Anthony in Ep 6: "So, we gonna marry for duty?"
      Edwina in Ep 6: "No! You can't give me what I deserve!"
      xD
      No one is clean in this mess, including Edwina. I'm glad she came into her own and stopped making a "one day wager" on a man. We know all about Anthony and Kate's lies by omission. Edwina's dishonesty was in expecting Anthony to love her because she said so (the day by the lake), despite what he told her, what Kate told her, and despite her noticing he doesn't look at her that way. Edwina gave the impression she accepted Anthony's terms, then pressured him to accept her terms and finally became angry it didn't work. Edwina had every right to be angry about Anthony and Kate's hidden relationship, regardless of the fact they hadn't planned it that way and were trying to end it with Kate's move. But Edwina was playing a dishonest role, too. I don't hate her for it, but she needed that growth and I think she handled it as gracefully as she could in the moment. Such good character writing this season!

    • @aya-_-3045
      @aya-_-3045 Před 13 dny +1

      She definitely thought he would change his mind later and that the love would grow, because he was treating her well. She didn't know about his trauma and that the main reason he was courting her was because he knew he would never love her.

  • @applepie3276
    @applepie3276 Před 24 dny +70

    So frustrating that y’all were rooting for him to “be happy” w Edwina when he clearly does not want to be w her. He’s courting her bc he feels obligated

    • @adddash8637
      @adddash8637 Před 24 dny +4

      Hes courting her because he wants someone he wont love, he wants to avoid love so he goes to her. Its all so weird that they want him with her and think hell be happy. Or Edwina.

  • @joiedevivre55
    @joiedevivre55 Před 25 dny +208

    Rather rich of Edwina to lecture Kate when Kate has been telling her since day 1 that Anthony does not believe in love and warned her about him.

    • @marirezende8478
      @marirezende8478 Před 25 dny +55

      That's why Edwina has her part to blame in this mess along Kate and Anthony

    • @meskoulaikrame6988
      @meskoulaikrame6988 Před 25 dny +45

      thats always the funniest part for me lmao. like the audacity

    • @vasudhasharma5532
      @vasudhasharma5532 Před 25 dny +55

      And calling her ‘half-sister’… then wondering why Kate is not 100% transparent with her and her mum.

    • @jdr796
      @jdr796 Před 25 dny +17

      exactly lol, talking about “i know what i deserve” girl

    • @jayashreemuduli8584
      @jayashreemuduli8584 Před 25 dny +31

      Mary literally treated her like a step daughter.The bigger prblm is writing this season they shld hv given something abt Kate's patents .nobody is realising that kate is practically an orphan lost her both parents and trying to fit in in this family

  • @Laudi28
    @Laudi28 Před 25 dny +154

    Edwina is truly a comedian. "I can't marry you because you don't love me. How dare you not love me??" Well, if you had been listening to what both Anthony and Kate have been saying for like ten years, maybe you would have had a clue that that's in fact why he's marrying you.... It's honestly hilarious to have her get this "girl boss" moment when it's just her finally opening her eyes to what everyone has been trying to show her since the very beginning.

    • @oliviadcs03
      @oliviadcs03 Před 25 dny +11

      exactly!

    • @vasudhasharma5532
      @vasudhasharma5532 Před 25 dny +17

      Yeah! It’s like she expects to be loved back just coz she loves the other person.

    • @ujji2203
      @ujji2203 Před 25 dny +12

      Ikr... everyone could see Anthony and Kate were into each other... she was blind. And she dreamed of love knowing and being told that that would never happen

    • @Easybreezylemonsqueezy928
      @Easybreezylemonsqueezy928 Před 25 dny +4

      Only the people who have been in love/married saw it. So not “everyone”

    • @ujji2203
      @ujji2203 Před 24 dny +9

      @Easybreezylemonsqueezy928 maybe... but if she was in love with Anthony like she claimed wouldn't she notice that his behaviour towards her is wildly different from his true nature? Or that he is only polite with her, not in love with her? She deluded herself into thinking he'd love her and that he was a totally different person... we see that in the conversation she has with daphne. She refused to belive daphne and says "maybe I bring out the best in him".... this is before they were even engaged... she was trying to fit him into her little fairytale and refused to see the truth. She's equally at fault here

  • @srishtiagarwal4748
    @srishtiagarwal4748 Před 25 dny +126

    37:03 Kate came here to get money and status for Edwina and Mary never for herself…. She clears this with lady Danbury in the beginning. Kate from the beginning has said she wants to secure Edwina’s and Mary’s future and she herself will go back to India. You’ll are making it out as if she wants money and power for herself.

    • @ujji2203
      @ujji2203 Před 25 dny +41

      It's sad to see how they've misunderstood her

    • @em8066
      @em8066 Před 24 dny +35

      These two are watching a different show

    • @unbreakablekathi
      @unbreakablekathi Před 24 dny +11

      Idk if we are all watching the same show at all Bcz Kate did say she would go back to India n would become a Governess …. SMH 😂😂 something is OFFFFF!!!!😅😅

    • @Zora87Peace
      @Zora87Peace Před 22 dny

      They just missed it. Remember, in their defense, they are watching and commenting at the same time. Hopefully they've caught on from the comments.

  • @explorationofbeauty6406
    @explorationofbeauty6406 Před 24 dny +94

    I’m always unmoved by Edwina’s speech every time I have heard it. Outside of the lies she had no issue with Kate setting her life aside to ensure her happiness and giving her everything she wanted. But at the first time she cannot have what she wants, she spins it as if Kate wants her to be her which is untrue. If Edwina felt uncomfortable with Kate choices for her or really wanted to make decisions on her own she need just speak to her mother. If she had listened from day one she would not have been here. Too bad for her 😒

    • @user-dx2dm8oq8g
      @user-dx2dm8oq8g Před 24 dny +23

      I agree. She was ok with a loveless marriage and got pissed when she realized he loved her sister. So did she want love or not? Anthony was always outspoken about it being a business deal. Kate def should have said something, but Edwina did it to herself by not looking for someone who had at least a crush on her that could turn to love. Anthony is also wrong for playing along, proposing when it was clear who he wanted after Daphne verbalized it. Edwina was delusional and lying to herself too, like Kate and Anthony.

    • @diamcole
      @diamcole Před 24 dny +5

      Edwina should have listened and Kate should have been honest, all of it was avoidable - in my opinion.

    • @em8066
      @em8066 Před 24 dny +4

      "Edwina had no issue with Kate setting her life aside to ensure her happiness and give her everything she wanted." Yes, and apparently without even having the knowledge that Kate did all that because their family was running out of money. Edwina just took it for granted.
      I think Kate did wish she could be with Anthony at this point, even though she wasn't if his feelings were more than physical. So at this moment, Edwina is right. And probably right about Kate wishing she could go into society if she only had a dowry. But Kate didn't put Edwina in Anthony's way like a puppet. Kate was against the match until Edwina said she was in love. Ironically, Kate stepped back out of respect for Edwina's wishes and independence, to allow Edwina to court a guy of Edwina's choosing - even though Kate knew it wouldn't work out. Everyone needed to be more honest in all this. But Kate didn't deserve to be demoted to "half-sister" and painted as conniving or self-serving.

  • @DonkeyWomb
    @DonkeyWomb Před 25 dny +99

    37:01 Yall do know that Kate wasn't gonna get the money right??
    The money was gonna set up Edwina and the mother. Kate was literally getting nothing out of it😂

    • @em8066
      @em8066 Před 24 dny +36

      Aaand Kate made sure Edwina didn’t know about the family’s lack of money so Edwina could choose a suitor without that pressure. Kate took on all the worry while Mary was grieving Kate’s father. Edwina did say she wanted love, because of the love their parents had. Kate isn’t perfect or always right, but she wasn’t doing all this for money. Like, what?

    • @ShaniceXO26
      @ShaniceXO26 Před 24 dny +19

      They don’t care about the truth when the lie is more entertaining. At this point they’re just writing their own storyline because they don’t understand a damn thing that they’re watching 😭

    • @DonkeyWomb
      @DonkeyWomb Před 24 dny +15

      @@ShaniceXO26 I really do respect people having different opinions but they gotta pay attention to the show they're watching 😂

    • @kk_sj3635
      @kk_sj3635 Před 23 dny +3

      @@em8066 Yeah nad Kate just lost a father, too. No one was actually on her side.

    • @Zora87Peace
      @Zora87Peace Před 22 dny +1

      @@ShaniceXO26 In their defense, they are watching and commenting at the same time. They just missed this part about Kate not getting anything and going back to India to be a governess. Hopefully, they'll see their error or that they missed that part.

  • @FSG765
    @FSG765 Před 25 dny +78

    Kate’s dead mom looked at Anthony’s dead dad in heaven and said hold my beer our kids are idiots. “I’m going to get my baby girl her bangles back and f up this wedding”.

    • @judination1
      @judination1 Před 24 dny +10

      Best comment 😂😂😂

    • @jayashreemuduli8584
      @jayashreemuduli8584 Před 24 dny +17

      They went full bollywood 🤣🤣

    • @ShaniceXO26
      @ShaniceXO26 Před 24 dny +5

      😂😂😂

    • @beksan1
      @beksan1 Před 24 dny +3

      😂😂😂

    • @StellaMinaj736
      @StellaMinaj736 Před 14 dny +1

      Ahaha I can’t 😂😂😂 best comment plus Anthony was gonna stop the wedding one way or another 🤷🏾‍♀️

  • @em8066
    @em8066 Před 24 dny +65

    These two really bout to go into season three like, “Ok, ok, this is Cressida’s season.” 🤷‍♀️

    • @mitchmo8125
      @mitchmo8125 Před 24 dny +21

      I wouldn't be surprised....they over here inventing storylines.... Shonda should hire them😂😂😂

    • @Laudi28
      @Laudi28 Před 24 dny +12

      I'm curious about their reaction to season 3, though, especially on the marriage aspect. Are they gonna do the same and root against the main couple just because someone "can decide to marry someone they don't love and end up loving them in an arranged marriage"?

    • @HuntingViolets
      @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny +9

      This made me laugh.

    • @HuntingViolets
      @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny +1

      @@Laudi28 It will be interesting. I can't wait.

    • @ashleypowell1722
      @ashleypowell1722 Před 24 dny +1

      They will show grace to the yt couple which is on par

  • @em8066
    @em8066 Před 24 dny +53

    The whiplash of these two wanting Edwina to marry for money and power, while dragging Kate because they think she wants Edwina to marry for money and power. lol
    Edwina has spent more time with Anthony than Kate, yet she barely knows him and he doesn’t love her.
    “It’s innocent if Kate wants Edwina to marry, get the inheritance, and Kate can return to India to work as a teacher.”
    -“Then why doesn’t she just SAY that??”
    Y’all. I’m dying 🤣🤣🤣

    • @jayashreemuduli8584
      @jayashreemuduli8584 Před 24 dny +11

      When edwina says anthony is so even tempered 🤣🤣

    • @HuntingViolets
      @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny +9

      And she doesn't even want Edwina to marry for money and power. That's the part.

    • @em8066
      @em8066 Před 24 dny

      HuntingViolets, exactly lol

  • @Pfruit0916
    @Pfruit0916 Před 24 dny +33

    “He could choose to be happy with Edwina” if he was not already in love with someone else. He is settling for her and she deserves better. He’s putting Edwina in the position where she will never know why she can’t fully win the love of the man she adores. Him proposing to avoid his feelings put all 3 of them in a terrible situation.

  • @CoutureSimmer
    @CoutureSimmer Před 24 dny +41

    LOL at Edwina talking about True Love is not deception, like Anthony didn’t tell her from Day 1 that he’ll do his duty but won’t give her the love she wants.

    • @ShaniceXO26
      @ShaniceXO26 Před 24 dny +6

      Thank you 😭😭 No wonder they thought she was 14

    • @HuntingViolets
      @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny +5

      Yes. He did. And all she said was how great it was that he was honest about that.

  • @Aya_97_
    @Aya_97_ Před 25 dny +37

    Now I love these reactions but I do think yall are misunderstanding the situation a little. Kate wasn’t getting any money. She would have to go back to India. The money would go to Edwina and the mom. She truly wanted Edwina to marry for love thats why she did not say anything to Edwina because she knew Edwina would want to do whats best for the family. Kate made a lot of mistakes but I don’t believe it was about control or power. Her mistakes only involve the fact that she fell in love with Anthony. Her intentions with Edwina finding a match was always good.

  • @srishtiagarwal4748
    @srishtiagarwal4748 Před 25 dny +60

    24:48 this is the point I feel you’ll are missing when you’ll say that Edwina and Anthony’s marriage could work if they tried. The point is Anthony chose Edwina only because she was declared as the diamond and because he knew he cannot fall in love with her. Falling in love in an arranged marriage can work you are right about that but only if the person is not already in love with someone else. How do you expect Anthony to forget Kate after they are married and fall in love with Edwina. It’s just absurd.

    • @snootyvegans
      @snootyvegans Před 25 dny +1

      Thank you for your comment. I think it is possible for people to love more than one person in their lifetime. There are people who have multiple marriages for one reason or another. I think falling in love can be an intense initial feeling but it can also occur over time when two people go through life and life experiences together 🤷🏽‍♀

    • @diamcole
      @diamcole Před 24 dny +13

      ​@@snootyvegans And I think that would hold more weight had Edwina and Anthony both not been as set in their desires from the beginning. Edwina wanted a love marriage, not one that developed over time but one that blossomed from the beginning of their courtship - that wasn't an option for Anthony and he made that pretty clear. He wanted the safety and protection of being with someone he wasn't in love with and would have no possibility of falling in love with. I guess on paper they would have made a nice couple but just that. Some things can't be forced.

    • @jayashreemuduli8584
      @jayashreemuduli8584 Před 24 dny +7

      @@snootyvegans yes it could when two people want to work fr that relationship how can it work if one person is never interested in knowing other person and is closed off with that person.

    • @HuntingViolets
      @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny +9

      @@jayashreemuduli8584 I don't think Anthony could ever really be in love with Edwina, even if he tried, though. She is not like Siena or Kate, the two most important women in his romantic life. She looks right. She will be a good mother. But she is too sweet. Daphne saw that.

    • @aya-_-3045
      @aya-_-3045 Před 13 dny

      @@snootyvegans Yes it could work if both people in the marriage tried to make it work. However, Anthony never would've put in the effort that Edwina would've because 1 he wanted a loveless marriage and the main reason he was courting edwina is because he knew he would never love her. and 2, he was already in love with someone else.
      He knew both sisters and spent the same amount of time with both sisters (actually a little more with Edwina), and yet only fell in love with one of them and not the one he's supposed to marry, I think that says it all about how horrible of an idea it would be if these two got married. Edwina is perfect on paper as viscountess but besides that, she and Anthony have nothing in common and she's the opposite of his type. He would've just been settling for her. She would've spent that entire marriage wondering why the man she adores cant love her, and he would spend the entire marriage still thinking about kate and what could have been.

  • @FSG765
    @FSG765 Před 25 dny +34

    Regarding your discussion after the episode on Kate being dishonest with Edwina : Kate started raising Edwina around the age of 18. Shes basically a child raising a child, so that’s probably where the bad habits of shielding Edwina began. She hasn’t treated Edwina like her sister for years now because Mary abandoned them both after their dad died. Kate has to relearn to treat Edwina like a sister and not a guardian. This episode is hopefully the beginning of that!

  • @ShaniceXO26
    @ShaniceXO26 Před 24 dny +19

    I stopped taking y’all serious when you cheered for Anthony proposing to Edwina not seeing that the only reason he proposed was because Daphne pointed out to him that he loves Kate 😂😂 They would not be happy just cause y’all think so. That man don’t love her. Like Daphne pointed out he needs someone who’s like him and Edwina is beyond naive so that would not work. Anthony loves a challenge and Edwina is not that.

  • @Fallen616
    @Fallen616 Před 24 dny +20

    In a show about love-true love at that-and they’re pushing for an arranged marriage is so funny to me. What part of Bridgerton is about settling for what’s adequate lol

  • @El_Ezra_Meitar5
    @El_Ezra_Meitar5 Před 24 dny +32

    I love your channel, I do. I just do not get you guys 😂😂
    Syntell, I love that you had an awekening moment with Edwina here in this episode, but for me this was the total opposite 😂 I experienced Mikael's disgusted response(which was so funny lol) to every word out of E's mouth 😂 she literally made zero sense.
    all big words and declarations with no substance to back her choices, no ground to stand upon...
    when Kate says to her "he cannot provide you with the love you deserve" she answered with "that makes him an honest man, not a bad one.". when Anthony says he is not a man of poetry and flowers, but he is loyal to his duty, she's mesmerized and swoons, as if he didn't just admit to not having strong feelings for her.
    and then when she gets the messege, she's suddenly a woman? no. she's a whiny kid who didn't listen to what anybody told her for months and made up a whole delusion in her mind (somewhat to her confession there, in fact. she does admit it lives in her own mind. you know why? cause it DID! ). then got mad when reality came knocking 😂
    your point about the love that can grow from arranged marriages is very true indeed, however this isn't the case. this isn't arranged, they were courting, that's for starters. then she also made it very clear that for her it is already a "love match", after the (incredible) dinner scene with the Scheffilds, while Anthony made very clear to everyone-including E, truly, that he wishes to never fall in love, not before nor during his marrige. "love shall have no part of my marrige. I seek an amiable partner with whom I can share a pleasant life".
    I also don't get the thought of her as becoming her own woman in that specific moment when she "said her truth" ... all along the season, E was the one who wasn't afraid to speak her mind. "I want him. I love him. help me Kate. I need this, go against your better judgment, Kate, so I can get what I want".never hesitated cause she knew her sister would help her in whoever she wishes. meanwhile, Kate is the one who inspects the situations and decides to shut her self wants down in order to provide for her family members (who are the only ones who will enjoy the money, in fact, you guys got that a bit wrong, some comments detailed how so I won't get into it lol). so I think we saw different things in this episode. what I, in fact, saw, was a delusional teen, getting worked up over her own doings (as she is responsible for her feelings, too!) and using the most hurtful words possible to hurt the one person who sacrifices everything they have or want for her which is her sister. (or "half sister" as mean E decided to pull at K at the last minute).
    now don't get me wrong, I do agree with you about how Kate has good intentions along with bad baaaad decision making (as does Anthony, for they are one and the same those two 😂 yet somehow you find justification when it comes to A...? ). no one here is saying Kate has no part of the blame, especially not Kate. but we, unlike E, have the whole picture, so we can see why her actions aren't as damming as you put them.
    and of course, lest we forget, K is a 26 sister-mother to E. and E is freaking 16 or 18. they are young, stupid, inexperienced. both of them. how many stories of over protective mother or mother figures who keep secrets from their loved ones "in order not to burden them" do we know? countless lol. E is a bit more dumb as she's younger and a true teen, so that's understandable. that doesn't give her the stand of righteousness, but it allows to feel empathy for her little tantrum.
    that's it 😂 I said what I had to say. hopefully you'll read this sometime.
    love you reactions nonetheless!! ❤

  • @jdr796
    @jdr796 Před 25 dny +69

    ofc i 100% get why edwina was hurt but calling kate her “half sister” was heartbreaking, kate has always tried to earn her familys love and she sacrifices constantly bc she knows that they could easily drop her. edwina saying that proved all of her worst fears

    • @StellaMinaj736
      @StellaMinaj736 Před 14 dny

      Ugh thank god she’s married to a family that loves her 🥹 like being a stepsister myself that shit made me cry and heartbroken 😢

  • @CoutureSimmer
    @CoutureSimmer Před 24 dny +20

    Kate didn’t tell Edwina about the Sheffields because she didn’t want the stipulations set out by them to influence her sisters choice of husband. Also, Kate wasn’t getting any money and I don’t think she would want it even if Mary and Edwina wanted to share it with her because she knew the sheffields looked down on her father. Kate always intended to return to India alone and earn her own money.

  • @Callisto_52Hz
    @Callisto_52Hz Před 24 dny +23

    its so funny watching yall defend anthony after his argument with daphne. daphne is right, anthony is making stupid decisions that nobody is forcing him to make. he is not obligated to marry edwina for family duty. that was entirely his choice and he was wrong for it. he got himself into this mess. while the only thing kate could have done is tell the truth and hope edwina sets her sights on another man, anthony could've entirely skipped this mess by not marrying edwina. he didn't even have to participate in the season. are we forgetting how much of a fuckboy he was on season 1, where was the sense of duty then?

    • @HuntingViolets
      @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny +3

      If Kate told the truth, she also risked Edwina hating her, something that was unbearable to her.

    • @supersucks
      @supersucks Před 24 dny

      SPEAK ITTTTTT CLOCK IT! It baffles me they’re rooting for Anthony when he has the choice

    • @ujji2203
      @ujji2203 Před 24 dny +2

      Yeah... idk where they got the idea that it's his duty to marry the diamond... its not. He could be with anyone that had debuted. He could've fairly pursued Kate since her legal mother Mary does belong to society... the only reason he went for Edwina the Diamond is because he didn't want to care... he literally didn't care who he married. Going for the diamond made it easy for him to not have to think

    • @HuntingViolets
      @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny +2

      @@ujji2203 Yeah, he wasn't that pleased with the crop, so he thought, okay, let's see who the diamond is, and then in their dance, Edwina had all her stock answers ready and he was like, okay. If she hadn't passed his test at that point, he would have moved on. But he felt things for Kate from the moment he met her (which was before he met Edwina), and the only reason she wasn't the one he courted (which actually is grown from a lot of things but mainly the death of his father) is that he was running away from love instead of towards it. Edwina worked as the person he felt he could never love but who still seemed "appropriate."

    • @aya-_-3045
      @aya-_-3045 Před 13 dny +1

      Yeah I was confused about this too. He didn't have to marry Edwina for his family lol. He could've courted any woman, even Kate, and still fulfilled his family duty. This guy had no idea wth he was doing, made dumb decisions, then resented his family for it.

  • @vickster5001
    @vickster5001 Před 24 dny +18

    I was uncomfortable throughout the episodes with the triangle element as I did feel bad for edwina. But, I did think it was ridiculous when she got mad that Anthony didn’t love her and was going on about her wanting love. He said right at the start that he wasn’t offering love. That’s why Kate didn’t want her sister to go near him and she told her that. She knew her sister wanted love. It’s unfortunate Kate ended up falling for him, but it wasn’t her plan and she did always want what was best for her sister. Anthony was in the wrong completely for his actions, but I suppose he knows he never offered love.

  • @zinthaniel9913
    @zinthaniel9913 Před 24 dny +16

    you both have insane reasoning skills, lmao. This is not you against angry fans, this is you two against common sense.

  • @winterlove7758
    @winterlove7758 Před 24 dny +16

    Yeah I think you misunderstood. The money would not ever go to her because she isn’t blood. That money was for Edwina and Edwina only. The stipulation would help mama. And her and Danbury had a convo where she said that she would marry the first person she saw if she knew what the stipulation is.

  • @TraceyJean
    @TraceyJean Před 25 dny +21

    Hoping that following the live chat you guys finally understand that Kate gets no money and no dowry. She did not have the option to seek a partner. Her only possible husband is a man with no need for a dowry who was willing to marry her without one, which is different from Duke Simon who gave Daphne her dowry.

    • @adddash8637
      @adddash8637 Před 24 dny +4

      They didnt even touch on that from what I remember. :/

    • @em8066
      @em8066 Před 23 dny +1

      It was brought up, but they went in circles and it never landed. I'm just gonna pop some corn and watch them get Jerry Springer mad at the rest of the season lol Just nodding at my screen like, "Mm-hm, that dirty low down Kate, yup."

  • @srishtiagarwal4748
    @srishtiagarwal4748 Před 25 dny +38

    40:02 they both couldn’t have pursued someone because Kate cleared in the beginning that sheffields will not pay for Kate’s dowry only Edwina. So only Edwina could marry and that to a man with nobility(condition of the Sheffields)

    • @Mayday9112
      @Mayday9112 Před 22 dny

      Most watchers don’t know what a dowry is & why it’s important. I thought most would figure it out when it held up the Fetherington sister from marrying Finch. It was seriously focused on in three different episodes, yet some ppl still don’t understand its importance. So wild. I’m surprised how much these reactors are not getting this season bc their Queen Charolette reactions were really good. They understood the way the society worked and why certain things were what they were. But man they keep missing the mark on this one.

  • @e.l.fahgase9484
    @e.l.fahgase9484 Před 25 dny +19

    His wedding was cancelled so that kiss wasn’t with the bride’s sister on the wedding day technically 😅 They did after Edwina call her wedding off

    • @HuntingViolets
      @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny +4

      Yeah, they kept expecting them to kiss and/or have sex every episode and that didn't happen. I'm not saying Kate and Anthony deserve a prize for that, but they had a lot of feelings on boil for quite a while.

  • @wendyylovee
    @wendyylovee Před 24 dny +10

    As someone who wholly believes in intuition, I don't feel as bad for Edwina as you guys do, but I can understand why. She literally ignored everything Kate AND Anthony been telling her since day 1. She's young & naive so I wasn't too harsh on her but she really was a fool. Even if Kate didn't love Anthony, that man was never gonna love her, he told her as much on more than one occasion. The next episode gonna be hilarious, I can't wait to see your reactions

  • @jayashreemuduli8584
    @jayashreemuduli8584 Před 25 dny +22

    Didn't kate explained the reason of not telling abt sheffields to edwina in 1st episode itself .Its interesting to note that anthony's family his sister and mother could see anthony falling fr kate bt mary and edwina can't. Doesn't it explain that mary and edwina never cared fr kate if mary had been present she could hv seen it bt she was an absent mother after kate's father died she is the one responsible fr everything how come her mother never thought abt their financial issues and how come edwina was super excited to meet her grandparents when she knew that they disowned mary and disrespected his father .

    • @explorationofbeauty6406
      @explorationofbeauty6406 Před 24 dny +14

      Agreed. Mary says she cares for both but her actions say otherwise. Both her and Edwina were perfectly fine with Kate putting herself on the back burner for as long as her father had died. Not once did I hear Edwina or Mary ask Kate how she felt during the season, if anyone has indeed caught her eyes or if her perspective on marrying has changed.

    • @user-dx2dm8oq8g
      @user-dx2dm8oq8g Před 24 dny +7

      Even Danbury noticed. Kate was basically Mary and Edwina's parent. She is a strong woman. She's an orphan, not related to the Sheffields and she's the one who worked out the deal to get a dowry not Mary. Mary couldn't even look out for her own biological kid, so to think she'd be a mother to Kate, that's laughable. She should have swallowed her pride and either found a rich husband or went back home to her parents in England once Edwina was of marrying age. Kate could have stayed with Danbury if it got bad for her there until she married. If Edwina married rich, her husband could pay for Kate's dowry and both girls would be set.

    • @jayashreemuduli8584
      @jayashreemuduli8584 Před 24 dny +3

      @@user-dx2dm8oq8g and the deal was fr dowry not they agreed to give security or money fr rehabilitation .why the fuck nobody realised how will edwina marry if there is no dowry they didn't hv money so she did whatever she thought right .

    • @jayashreemuduli8584
      @jayashreemuduli8584 Před 24 dny +3

      @@user-dx2dm8oq8g well kate was 26 and considered was a spinster she never thought abt marrying as she thought she does not deserve to getmarried or love

  • @MachineCheese
    @MachineCheese Před 24 dny +14

    Edwina called Kate her half sister was trifling. I get she was upset but that’s cold. Even though Kate should have been more informative abt the situation and I get Edwina being emotional but she was also very foolish

  • @e.l.fahgase9484
    @e.l.fahgase9484 Před 25 dny +14

    Arranged marriages do happen and sometimes they’re more successful but only when you’re completely over of your crush/ex or have no longing for them…Most of the time people become unhappy when they realise they could’ve chose different…

  • @gyjlover
    @gyjlover Před 25 dny +22

    the turmeric (haldi) ceremony is a ritual indians (bengalis and other south asians as well) do before the wedding, turmeric paste makes your skin glow. sometimes the bride and groom have their own haldi ceremony, sometimes they do it together, depends on the families traditions. while their ritual was taking place, the ost in the background is the orchestral version of a hugely popular bollywood song from the classic indian family movie khabi khushi khabi gum (sometimes things are happy, sometimes things are sad), i thought that was such a sweet touch.
    i think syntell really clocked kate's development well in the discussion part of this review. once again, kate's character really mirrors anthony's in that they both have good intentions towards their family members, but a lot of their decision making does not include their family member's choices because they believe themselves to be the most correct and most mature of their siblings due to the trauma that forced them to take a responsible stand for much of their lives. they're also really stubborn and bull-headed so it takes them a great deal to understand that they are in fact fallible. but that's also why i find them so endearing.

    • @yashaswinikrishnan1878
      @yashaswinikrishnan1878 Před 25 dny +2

      only hindus do it, so you can say Indian and not south asian 😭

    • @El_Ezra_Meitar5
      @El_Ezra_Meitar5 Před 24 dny +8

      100% agreed. I love this channel but I am however baffled by the distinction they make between Anthony and Kate's intentions. Just from the similarities you mentioned. how come when Anthony speaks his mind to Daphnie they take it as bars but when Kate does the same this they're disgusted? 😂

    • @gyjlover
      @gyjlover Před 24 dny

      @@yashaswinikrishnan1878 some muslims do have it actually, my family does and there are hindus outside of india as well

    • @gyjlover
      @gyjlover Před 24 dny +5

      @@yashaswinikrishnan1878 bengali muslims & christians hold a haldi (gaye holud)

    • @HuntingViolets
      @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny +5

      @@El_Ezra_Meitar5 That part. This is the same guy who corners Kate and breathes in her ear. "Oh, but Kate should leave the room." So? He still shouldn't do it in the first place, then. Who is the vulnerable person if they are caught, the rich viscount who should consider her position or the young woman with no title or much money?

  • @tammym8966
    @tammym8966 Před 24 dny +16

    Edwina has to be the one to marry. She is the only one who could have received the dowry! And Kate is NOT chasing the money for herself. Agree to disagree on this one.

    • @HuntingViolets
      @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny +6

      I can't agree to disagree because they're wrong on facts on that part, and the misunderstanding is informing the opinion. You can have different opinions, but you have to start from the facts.

  • @Chan_K97
    @Chan_K97 Před 25 dny +28

    Don't forget that even though Kate came to gain money, it wasn't for herself, it was for her mother and sister. She plans to go back and work as a governess and earn her own money. She has no rights to the Sheffield inheritance.
    Kate isn't all innocent but not all the blame is on her. Anthony pursued Edwina because he's too scared and traumatised to go for the one he actually wants to be with and dragged an innocent girl into it, kind of using her as a shield but not really wanting her. Edwina also didn't listen to her sister's warning about Anthony not marrying her for love and it all blew up in her face at her own wedding. She only realised she wouldn't be happy in the marriage when Anthony told her he only married her for duty and not love like he she wanted. Which is what Kate has been trying to warn her all along but she just didn't want to see the truth and just had her head in the clouds.

  • @shaharadegan9993
    @shaharadegan9993 Před 24 dny +10

    Just finished watching this and you guys have some misconceptions of who gets the money…not Kate. So her lie was for financial stability for her family not for herself. She would have nothing. No she is not looking for power another misconception. Yes, Kate did not give Edwina the benefit of the doubt that she could make the right decision. Everything Kate did was to secure Edwina and Mary’s future, not her own.

  • @adddash8637
    @adddash8637 Před 24 dny +12

    I really really hope that you guys listen to the comments on this episode! I know you read them and we were on the live yesterday but this is the full perspective now from everyone's pov. Because I do not understand how you can still have this wrong idea that Anthony could have grown to love Edwina and open himself to love her eventually. It was NEVER going to happen.
    Please understand the entire and sole reason he even proposed was because he realized he was in love (with Kate) and ran straight away from that, because he didn't want love, he was trying to avoid it so he went to a person he knew he'd never love. Since the very first episode he's wanted a loveless marriage, only someone to bear his kids with a good status. That's the only reason he went to Edwina. Because he refuses love due to his father.
    Edwina doesn't know Anthony at all, he has been showing her a facade to get what he wants (yet she claims to love him), she is not a good match for him or his family, even his family noticed and said that at some point. He needs someone like him, stubborn and who challenges him, he'd be bored otherwise.

    • @AmyL._orcgirl
      @AmyL._orcgirl Před 24 dny +3

      The pall mall game they played, he was the most honest about himself. Not 100%, but more honest than he had been. Edwina was clearly uncomfortable with everything during the game and chose to look past it completely.

    • @adddash8637
      @adddash8637 Před 24 dny +3

      @@AmyL._orcgirl suring the game and after with his family. When daphne talked to her. The whole time its just showing us they are not a good match

    • @StellaMinaj736
      @StellaMinaj736 Před 14 dny

      They don’t care clearly 🤷🏾‍♀️ they just love the mess and engagement they are getting

  • @jamila_freya
    @jamila_freya Před 24 dny +11

    Fact is kate will not get any of the money its only Edwina and mary. kate is not related to the Sheffield’s that why she would go back after edwina’s wedding. And Mary was an absent mother after her husband’s death so she has no idea of there finances

  • @ShaniceXO26
    @ShaniceXO26 Před 24 dny +16

    I finally understand all the Kate hate. Y’all don’t know sh*t y’all watching and it shows 😂😂 Getting money for Kate? That’s what told me all I needed to know because that money wasn’t gonna be Kate’s. She’s leaving so that money is for her mom and sister. I’m so happy I’ve watched tons of great reactions to this season when it came out so I can’t let this one reaction upset me like it’s done a lot Kate fans. Getting upset at y’all over the misogyny against Kate just doesn’t make much sense. We’re practically at the end and your takes have only gotten crazier 🤣

    • @HuntingViolets
      @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny

      This was filmed before the livestream, so I am hoping they will take time to read through all the comments and explanations on there before the next episode.

    • @em8066
      @em8066 Před 23 dny +2

      @@HuntingViolets I hope so, too. But idk, they already watched this episode before the livestream, and the whole livestream was reiterating these opinions regardless of comments that pointed out major errors. Pretty sure they're just going to be mad at the rest of the season, which is honestly pretty entertaining. xD

    • @em8066
      @em8066 Před 23 dny +1

      @ShanicXO26 I agree with you, except there is some misogyny in their bias against Kate while forgiving Anthony. From their perspective, it's okay for Anthony to marry for business reasons and cheat, but it's not okay for Kate to want a business arrangement and cheat. The only difference between them is gender, and there's a long history of the woman being blamed when a man cheats, regardless of the circumstances. They even brought up the Kama Sutra once and implied that Kate must have slept around before now, as if she's some vixen out to tempt an innocent man. As if she couldn't have learned about love from watching her mother and father, as she said. When Kate speaks, they don't hear. It's weird. On the other hand, they root for female characters who want to follow the rules of a patriarchal society regarding arranged marriage, like Edwina and Danbury. Those two can do no wrong in this corner of the internet.

    • @HuntingViolets
      @HuntingViolets Před 23 dny

      @@em8066 I did not like using the Kama Sutra to argue Kate was somehow experienced (although I think someone in the chat brought it up, it was distasteful). Are we supposed to think that Indian society didn't have as strict rules as English society for women in this period? Edwina is from India too and reads books too. The Kama Sutra was available in England, so let's not pretend being from India gives you some special access or that women from India are somehow looser than women in England.
      Kate may know about sex (because, honestly, I figured it out myself as a kid and I can't believe none of these girls have that much of a brain) or not, but it's clear she has lived for her family only and has never had romance of any sort. This is affecting her quite intensely and she is bewildered by it. It's new. (Although the show has really gone into parody with the sexual ignorance of girls. But even if a woman has known love before, it's not some evil mark against her!)
      I have had a bone to pick with Lady Danbury throughout this season. She has gotten in the way more than once when Kate has wanted to tell the truth and has given her bad advice to keep down this road (sunk cost fallacy). Early on, she said to tell Edwina the truth but later she actively works against that. We all know that Anthony would always let Edwina be the one to officially break the engagement regardless. And after what we see Danbury suffer in QC, it's odd. And Kate doesn't need to be Lady Danbury. She only needs to be Kate.
      I also don't really see Lady Mary as sunken in and beaten down. She married for love; her husband had a good career (secretary to a prince is nothing to sneeze at), and she was probably a lot happier than if she'd stayed in England and married the man her parents picked for her. She was felled by his death, much like Violet. There is a real parallel with Eloise, who is going against society by sneaking out to meet Theo, and I wish/hope that will be addressed. As much as I love it when they like Theo and Eloise, she is not behaving "properly" here, if that is so important. People would understand Anthony keeping a mistress more than Eloise seeing a boy outside the ton.
      I am really curious about what the last two reactions will bring. And then we can go to the next season . . .

    • @ShaniceXO26
      @ShaniceXO26 Před 23 dny

      @@em8066yeah there’s definitely a lot of misogyny in their Kate takes. Anthony is the ‘villain’ here yet he’s getting praised while a she’s getting shitted on. They literally cheered when that man proposed to Edwina ignoring the fact that he only proposed because Daphne pointed out that he loves Kate 😂 I don’t wanna be ageist but their age definitely shows watching this. It’s like watching a homophobic person react to a show and then when a gay scene comes on they get a itch to start talking mess about it. Older black folks annoy me sometimes and I’m saying that as a black woman from jamaica with homophobic parents who have complained about things I’ve watched. They don’t like it so they complain to justify their hate for it even if it makes no sense

  • @jermanijohnson.3481
    @jermanijohnson.3481 Před 25 dny +9

    edwina wanted love..she wanted to believe that anthony loved her at this moment, “not falling in love” over time which could’ve happened of course but anthony also would not leave late alone. edwina is stronger than kate and always has been just in different ways and i think we should look at that too when we discuss what kate has never had, and what anthony could not move away from.

  • @livelovelife32
    @livelovelife32 Před 24 dny +7

    Wanted to comment something: I want y'll to remember this discussion and your belief that Edwina and Anthony could have worked if they tried when you get to Season 3. I also want you to try to remember that when his father died, Violet was of no help and the entire weight of carrying the family fell on Anthony. When you watch the 1st episode of season 3 and we come to a scene of Kate doing what actually looks like some of Anthony's paper work, **remember** you said a marriage between Edwina and Anthony could work. Then remember Anthony's requirements for a wife before he got caught up in having the diamond of the season.

  • @aswaswasw2323
    @aswaswasw2323 Před 25 dny +12

    Kate was dead wrong for pushing her emotions to the back for others happiness. But i still love Kate cause her intent was good, she just fkkd up. I give grace to that. Still love the reaction. Keep reacting, i keep watching

  • @wise1wise187
    @wise1wise187 Před 24 dny +9

    Anthony was never going to marry Edwina.

  • @HuntingViolets
    @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny +5

    Anthony is not a count. He is a viscount. In England, an earl would be the equivalent of a count. He is also not royalty. The ranks of nobility are, in descending order: Duke, marquess/marchioness (a rank that sometimes can be held by a woman on her own -- marchioness, in that case), earl, viscount, and baron. Then, not part of the peerage, is baronet/baronetess, which are not part of the above list but can sometimes be hereditary. They are above knights except Knights of the Garter and Thistle in Scotland and Knights of the Garter in England. (Info from Britannica online.)

  • @shaharadegan9993
    @shaharadegan9993 Před 24 dny +6

    I have to say the hate for this situation with Kate when Edwina confronts her about her feelings for Anthony has reached a level that not even I can stand. Really?😢Could we step back just a bit and look at both sides of this coin. Yes, Kate was wrong not being truthful about everything, but her intentions were from the heart and not malicious. Cut my girl a little slack please….😢

  • @HuntingViolets
    @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny +4

    Shonda Rhimes did not write any episodes for _Bridgerton_ and is not the showrunner. She is an executive producer and bought rights to adapting the books after reading them. The showrunner for the first two seasons is Chris Van Dusen. Rhimes did write most of the episodes of _Queen Charlotte._

  • @heatherrose5594
    @heatherrose5594 Před 24 dny +14

    I have 5 half siblings, and we also refuse to use that word - “half” - just like these sisters did initially. Hearing Edwina call Kate her half sister was a punch in the gut.

    • @em8066
      @em8066 Před 23 dny

      Oof, it was such a low blow.

    • @jLachelle3
      @jLachelle3 Před 15 dny

      Listen I’m going to low blow if I’m made to look like a fool on my wedding day

  • @sarahcoleman9912
    @sarahcoleman9912 Před 24 dny +3

    That they didnt get how Antony did not feel for Edwina from the beginning is why they never gave Kate a chance. Antony can’t choose to be happy with Edwina. He was marrying her specifically bc he didn’t want to marry for love and he didn’t love her. It’s like they purposely don’t pay attention bc they like Edwina.

  • @HuntingViolets
    @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny +4

    The shadow children -- Gregory and Hyacinth. Full list is Anthony, Benedict, Colin, Daphne, Eloise, Francesca, Gregory, Hyacinth. Francesca, the true shadow child, is out of town for most of both these seasons.

  • @SC-hp5dn
    @SC-hp5dn Před 24 dny +4

    3:21 turmeric ceremony and Hena ceremony are both parts of Indian Hindu weddings. Hena/ mehendi was skipped here. Haldi / turmeric ceremony is done to ward off evil for the couple to be wed. It’s done for both bride and groom. Turmeric is also part of a home made facial pack kind of thing so it helps the couples’ skin brighten up and glow on their wedding day

    • @drinajoseph6950
      @drinajoseph6950 Před 24 dny +1

      Not just Hindu, but South Indian Christians and Bengali Muslims also have Haldi ceremony.

  • @tenpenthouse
    @tenpenthouse Před 16 dny +1

    3:10 So! That's a pretty standard Hindu/Vedic tradition where the bride has turmeric paste spread on her body, and then it's scraped off.
    It's inspired by the (general) story of the birth of Ganesha (the elephant-headed god of entrances/beginnings/etc).
    The goddess Parvati was going to take a bath and didn't want to be disturbed. Since no one was around to guard the door, she did the above. She then molded the scrapings into the shape of a little boy, gave it life, and gave it the job of blocking the entrance to her bath.
    Other things happen - how he gets the elephant head changes locally. A common story is - Shiva, Parvati's husband, comes back, sees this kid blocking the doorway to his wife and beheads him. Parvati freaks the fuck out on Shiva, and in order to appease her wrath, he brings the kid back to life. But since the head is.... kind of not working, he sees an Elephant mother who also lost her son... and he sort of merges the two. Ergo, Elephant head but human body.
    Parvati was still pissed at him - and other Devas, I believe - so they decided to further honour her brave, cute little boy by making him in charge of entrances/beginnings. What this means is - if you're going to pray/do aarti to any Vedic gods, you have to pray to Ganesha first. And offer him some candy (he likes candy).

  • @veronicaknowsbest
    @veronicaknowsbest Před 25 dny +21

    Very good discussion. I have never seen Kate as perfect. I love her flaws and her growth that happens by the end of the season. One thing that you two keep getting wrong is Kate getting any money. She is not getting any money from Edwina being married. Edwina and Mary are the only two getting the money from Edwina marrying . I can't wait for the final two reactions and your final thoughts on Kate

    • @snootyvegans
      @snootyvegans Před 25 dny +1

      Thank you for your comment. I get that the money is for Edwina and Mary but I also believe they would send her off with some of that money and not allow her to live in squalor 🤷🏽‍♀

    • @ujji2203
      @ujji2203 Před 25 dny +13

      ​@snootyvegans maybe. But you can't assume that... and from what we've seen about Kate you can tell she'd never really take that money... you make it sound like she was hoping for a cut of the inheritance 😅 it was selfless on her part... if she wanted, she could've been selfish and told the truth and married Anthony herself... she didn't try to break them up once... quite the opposite. She begged the love of her life to marry her sister because edwina wanted to marry him and was in love with the idea of him

    • @justtunedin
      @justtunedin Před 24 dny +13

      @@snootyvegansbut the show states she plans to be a governess and that the Sheffield will only support Mary and Edwina. You should take into account what is actually said in the show when judging Kate’s motivations otherwise it looks like trying to invent a storyline that doesn’t exist in order to justify seeing her as worse than she is. Putting someone on a pedestal is a problem, but so is creating a ditch and shoving them in it when they deserve to just be on level ground.

    • @HuntingViolets
      @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny +3

      @@snootyvegans Someone else said that Kate would never take the money if it were offered since the Sheffields looked down on her father and her, and I believe they are right. She would not touch that money; she's much too stubborn and has too much pride. Any money from helping Edwina get settled would be tainted for her. Also, as a governess, she would not live in squalor. She would live with the family whose children she taught.

    • @ashleypowell1722
      @ashleypowell1722 Před 24 dny +2

      @@snootyvegansthis is a joke right
      When has Mary and Edwina cared about Kate well being

  • @meskoulaikrame6988
    @meskoulaikrame6988 Před 25 dny +10

    i will not say anything about anything you guys say in this video as we already had a very fun chat yesterday in the livestream about all of this 😂😭💓
    also love your reactions🤗

  • @beksan1
    @beksan1 Před 24 dny +3

    If I hear “on his wedding day…” one more time… 😂😂😂

  • @kk_sj3635
    @kk_sj3635 Před 24 dny +3

    The thing is Kate never wanted anything for herself - like let's establish that. Not a man, not the money and power. Anthony was a surprise who threw a wrench to all her plans. That's what they're trying to point out this season. You have 2 of the most dutiful people be undone by love.
    Also other points:
    - She never told Edwina about the Sheffields because Edwina would have married the next convenient for person instead of for love.
    - She didn't even want the money for herself - it's for her mom and for Edwina's dowry.
    - She just wanted them to be in a better position before she goes back to India to live her own life.
    - The only actual time she gave herself anything was this episode when he kissed Anthony. Every other interaction with Anthony was an involuntary reaction (i think, I'm asexual so I don't have those).
    - She wanted to shelter Edwina from everything. Kate's mistake was never trusting Edwina to make her own decisions. As much as she tried to control everything, she's also just a misguided orphan who tried to do everything for her family. I feel bad for Edwina and she's also one of my favorite characters, especially her growth. Just kinda feel bad that no empathy was spared for Kate here.

  • @HuntingViolets
    @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny +2

    Every time you say the Count, I picture Edwina with the Sesame Street character.

  • @marirezende8478
    @marirezende8478 Před 25 dny +10

    Since we already chatted in the Livestream I won't say anything lol

  • @elizabethbarringtonthealia911

    As I understood it, Kate was basically hardened by the past, and made the executive decision to not explain things to Edwina from the start.. She took it upon herself as a way to spare Edwina that same sort of burden. She wanted Edwina to remain innocent in that way, as part of her desire for Edwina to be happy, basically trying to live vicariously through her. (Because she essentially gave up hope on her own ability to be happy).

  • @HuntingViolets
    @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny +2

    "When they blame her, is Penelope going to stand up? She better." We'll see.

  • @HuntingViolets
    @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny +1

    When they showed the actor who plays older Brimsley the casting for his younger self, he thought it was too flattering.

  • @devyn1772
    @devyn1772 Před 24 dny +2

    The “shadow children” do have names and they’ve said them several times. Gregory and Hyacinth.

  • @devyn1772
    @devyn1772 Před 24 dny +2

    I can’t even. Anthony would crush Edwina’s spirit eventually because he would never love her.

  • @heidispencer3639
    @heidispencer3639 Před 25 dny +16

    When you see Season 2 before Queen Charlotte you think Queen Charlotte is just embarrassed when the King appears.
    Kate was not trying to get money, power, and respect for herself. She was trying to make sure Edwina and Mary’s lives would continue without poverty. She herself planned to have a life of service. Kate believed their lives would be better without her, especially since the Sheffields wanted to pretend she didn’t exist. Also, Kate at 26 believed her chance of marriage had already passed especially as she had no dowry. The Sheffields were not willing to provide anything for Kate but they were willing to do everything for Edwina.

  • @sarahcoleman9912
    @sarahcoleman9912 Před 24 dny +2

    Welp, we have found the people who manage to ignore everything good about Kate, while forgetting everyone else doing those exact same things. It’s so frustrating but I’m having to accept you get different opinions when you watch reactions. I just can’t fathom this one. Kate did have the purest intentions. So much so that she ignored her heart for far too long.

  • @Rashi0220
    @Rashi0220 Před 23 dny

    Anthony runs away from love because of his mother, he saw how vulnerable love made his mother and how she neglected the whole family because of it so he chose Edwina because he wouldn’t feel the same attachment and love his mom and dad felt for each other and wouldn’t hurt others as well.. he is running away from Kate because he doesn’t want the passion and love

  • @sarahcoleman9912
    @sarahcoleman9912 Před 24 dny +3

    I’m sorry for so many comments but how can someone be disgusted by an outcome that was the point of the love story from the beginning? I think they missed that and it colored their whole reaction.

    • @jLachelle3
      @jLachelle3 Před 15 dny +1

      I get this is Kate and Anthony’s love story, but I still don’t like their actions. People don’t have to like what characters do just because it’s their story.

  • @eirinikomotini
    @eirinikomotini Před 24 dny +8

    I have tried being nice about explaining the things you don’t understand (and so have others), but man you are exhausting! I probably shouldn’t even comment this, but I’m done watching. Maybe for the next show try to actually listen and understand the actual storyline and not the one you decided should happen

    • @HuntingViolets
      @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny

      You might want to come back for the next one. They did a livestream on this, but it was after this was filmed. I can't really say, though.

    • @supersucks
      @supersucks Před 24 dny +1

      Me too, it’s to the point that I can’t even bring myself to watch their other reactions to other shows. Its a shame.

  • @melvinrivera2477
    @melvinrivera2477 Před 21 dnem +2

    IS 👏🏻 ANTHONY👏🏻 AND👏🏻 KATE’S 👏🏻 LOVE 👏🏻 STORY 👏🏻

  • @HuntingViolets
    @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny +3

    Sure, some people in arranged marriages grow to love each other, but not all. Anthony wouldn't be happy with Edwina. She is too much of a delicate flower for him. I love her, but they would not grow to love each other. They would be disappointed in each other. Perhaps Anthony wouldn't be disappointed because he doesn't have any expectation of being happy, only of being dutiful. He would continue indifferent and she might grow to hate him.

  • @Playwriter1234
    @Playwriter1234 Před 24 dny +2

    Katie was doing what Anthony has done for years with the family. Two strong people who put their wants and need to the side and put the wants and needs of the family first. That why Duchess say that to him about the family pity him because the family would love him to have happiness also just like them. That why the mother always push love over status.

  • @Playwriter1234
    @Playwriter1234 Před 24 dny +3

    Kate wasnt going to get any of the money. It was all going to the mother and sister. She wasnt going to get anything. I believe your miss that part. She not blood related so she couldnt get anything. Only the mother and her sister could because they were blood related to the family.

  • @Bnw482
    @Bnw482 Před 19 dny

    I love how you guys mentioned the colour of the dresses! I think there’s a lot of mirroring between Anthony and Kate’s character which is why they are both so frustrating to watch. The self induced torture and need for control brought on by the loss they both experienced and the need to grow up super quickly at such a young age. They are basically typical oldest siblings who haven’t dealt with their trauma 😭. Also Edwina deserves sooo much better than Anthony so I’m glad that wedding didn’t go ahead.

  • @rasheikachambers824
    @rasheikachambers824 Před 20 dny

    I believe that Kate was not completely in the wrong simply because from the beginning, she had been telling her sister that Anthony would never marry her for love just for duty, and despite her constantly telling her that and him telling her himself on the dancefloor, she did not listen and was still expecting love out of the Marriage… which is crazy. The only thing I believe Kate did wrong was not informing them of the Sheffields situation earlier.

  • @mermaidreviews4693
    @mermaidreviews4693 Před 25 dny +6

    Great reaction and Lol remember the shadow children

    • @HuntingViolets
      @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny

      I don't know why they're calling them that. They are on enough to be aware of and part of the family, but they aren't going to balls yet or having romances (thank goodness) and that's a lot of the focus for the show. I've been happy to see we've had Gregory and Hyacinth on straight through. I would call Francesca the shadow child, as she is the one out of town for most of both seasons.

  • @user-dx2dm8oq8g
    @user-dx2dm8oq8g Před 24 dny +2

    Penelope's family is also broke, they got titles, but they're of lower rank. She could probably be the main breadwinner with that LW money she's hiding if it came to it. Like her mother, she's resourceful. If Pen is found out, her family's titles might get stripped, she might get locked up or publicly shamed and they'll be out on the streets. Her fall would be greater than Mme Delacroix's, it would bring her entire family down. Edwina is also to blame like Anthony and Kate, the man kept saying it's a business transaction and not a love match and she still went for it. She should have figured out if she wanted love or not before marriage.

  • @allier1867
    @allier1867 Před 24 dny +4

    to say disgusted is taking it too far imo. but wtv

  • @mitchmo8125
    @mitchmo8125 Před 24 dny +13

    I keep thinking that as they watch, they will review from an informed perspective. But now i see they just nit picking for views.
    Kate literally has no rights to the inheritance, technically she cannot inherit., she can not inherit. She told Lady Danbury that she is returning to India to be a governess.
    But now you are saying she wants the money for herself. Making up story lines instead of actually reacting.
    Dont get heated guys, they just want views...

    • @ShaniceXO26
      @ShaniceXO26 Před 24 dny +8

      You’re so right. It’s clear they don’t understand a thing they’re watching so they gotta make up stuff to seem entertaining 😭😭 Even during the episode where the Bridgeton and Sharmas were competing they were coming up with their own ideas of Kate. It’s weird 💀

    • @ashleypowell1722
      @ashleypowell1722 Před 24 dny +5

      @@ShaniceXO26they understand it they just like everyone else have misogynistic views

    • @supersucks
      @supersucks Před 24 dny

      If this is what a “reaction” is then I don’t want it.

    • @awkwardly_me
      @awkwardly_me Před 14 dny

      They have been replying in the comment section of these videos with the same harsh opinions, some even worse. They haven't changed their minds. The comments in earlier videos of this season are fairly recent too.

  • @alissacathy8860
    @alissacathy8860 Před 17 dny

    The money was never for Kate, the Sheffield’s money would be solely for Edwina as they didn’t see Kate as their Granddaughter. That’s why she was to return to India, to work and live her own life

  • @alissacathy8860
    @alissacathy8860 Před 17 dny

    Kate feels deep responsibility for Edwina, protective over her similar to Anthony/Daphne in s1. She feels like she can hold the entire world on her shoulders, and believes it’s the right way, the only way to do it. Always putting her sister above all else, but that gets seemingly harder the more she realises the connection between her and the Viscount. Constantly resisting it until the very end. Her actions are not perfect bc they are a result of unfamiliar passion that can’t be controlled no matter how much both sides try. Also, she wanted Edwina to find love without being burdened by financial pressures! Kate explains this but I think you miss these moments by being too caught up in the wrong thing 😅

  • @Bhagi167
    @Bhagi167 Před 24 dny +2

    1. Kate DOES NOT gain any money. She gains literally nothing from all this. She did what she did, for Edwin and Mary. She didn’t want to share the burden because she wanted Edwina to marry for love. Edwina chose her fate even though both Kate and Anthony clearly explained Anthony could not give her the love she wanted.
    2. Anthony is seeking for a woman for the household in Edwina. Not a wife. He does not want love. He has a type and Edwina is not even close to that.
    3. Kate was Edwina's mother. A literal child raising another child while Mary was grieving or whatever. And that girl dared to talk to her like that. Kate sacrificed all she had for Edwina. If Kate had taken one more step towards Anthony previously, Anthony would've welcomed her with open arms. But she did not. Why? Cause she didn't want to ruin everything for Edwina even though, unconsciously she was breaking Edwina more. But as Kate is someone who is used to sacrificing so much, she genuinely thought the love they had for each other would fade away with time.
    4. Kate might be 26. However, love is a foreign feeling for her as well. Including sex. Indian society at the time never even talked about sex. Women got to know what sex is on the wedding night. Even today, this happens in rural areas of India.
    5. Kate and Anthony are two sides of the same coin. Daphne saw this. She saw through both of them. She just wanted to stop Anthony from marrying Edwina cause she knew this would happen in one way or another.
    6. Arranged marriages work when both people have a common ground to stand on. And Edwina and Anthony do not have a common ground. If Edwina proceeded with the marriage, she was bound to be unhappy. Anthony had no intention of working the marriage with Edwina. His first interactions with other women showcase this very clearly. The man was interviewing women for the job of being Mrs Bridgerton.
    Gosh, there are lot more to explain. I expected you guys to gather these cause I did when I watched the series for the first time. I love you both. I absolutely adored your reaction to Queen Charlotte. C'mon guys. Open your eyes. Kate is my favourite character yet. She is so complex yet relatable. Try to see things from her perspective.

  • @claratackla3953
    @claratackla3953 Před 15 dny +2

    Edwina is so spoiled. That's all that I have to say lol

  • @Shskzkskska1423
    @Shskzkskska1423 Před 24 dny +1

    People blaming Edwina for the mess as though she wasn’t lied to by both her fiancé and sister and then caught out on her WEDDING DAY makes no sense. Calling her “half sister” was generous because Kate’s behaviour wasn’t in the same realm as sisterly.

  • @deemo7868
    @deemo7868 Před 24 dny +2

    Another fascinating post. I enjoy the varying reactions to the same material. In the conversation it was asserted that a couple can grow to love each other. I stipulate that you can grow to love or you can grow to hate. Perhaps, I watch too many true crime series, but, the pendulum swings both ways. Be careful what you wish for.

  • @givesweet1776
    @givesweet1776 Před 24 dny +3

    been enjoying your reactions so far, but i might say frustrated at times lol, you guys’ opinions are valid but well…the settings are in like 200 years ago idt it was that easy for kate to just tell everything, if that’s the case this season will just end in 1 ep, thanks to your reactions i now get where kanthony haters are coming from 😂

  • @BgChef
    @BgChef Před 24 dny +6

    I think it’s funny you two have guidelines on the comment section because ya’ll getting schooled. I really don’t know what show you two were watching, I don’t really comment on a lot of videos but you two infuriate me. PAY ATTENTION TO WHATS HAPPENING IN THE FREAKING SHOW!!!! I mean, Lord, get a clue. I would rather you both stop watching and reacting to this season because it’s going over your heads 😒

  • @donnab4306
    @donnab4306 Před 24 dny

    This is based on a romance novel so it helps that the two main characters are in love lol.

  • @HuntingViolets
    @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny +2

    The Queen takes snuff, not that unusual at the time but more unusual for a woman. (It's shredded tobacco.)

  • @hannahbanana8981
    @hannahbanana8981 Před 25 dny +3

    Y'all are amazing

  • @jaztz1720
    @jaztz1720 Před 23 dny

    It was not horrible because the marriage was a deal for duty but Anthony was in love with kate
    At the end they realised that they can not make others happy of they're not happy

  • @leroyderange5080
    @leroyderange5080 Před 24 dny +2

    Hey guys, love ya'lls reactions. It's amazing. On this episode and the ones before where everyone is telling him to choose love. And you guys keep bringing up arranged marriages as a defense point. I can get it, however it's not apples to apples.
    Let's not forget that Anothny was willing to cast everything aside in the last season for the woman he claimed to love. And then he got butt hurt and chose this new way of thinking as a knee-jerk reaction. Not to mention that if he is doing this with Edwina's sister, now what is to stop him from doing it later on with someone else, or worse, he ends up resenting edwina??
    Also, I believe you do not start a marriage out with lies, so the fact that he never once decided to come clean with her shows what little respect he actually has for her. Especially after everyone was giving Kate crap after the last episode due to her hidden deal with the grandparents. Plus I agree with Daphne, you don't get to sit there and make choices, claiming it was for us and then get to resent us for it. Let us not forget who he was gonna marry Daphne off to in season one for the good of the family. And had it not been for the Duke telling him what was what. He'd have given her off to him. So he doesn't get to use Daphne marrying a duke as something his choices helped to bring about. So if you guys see this, I would love you guy's take/feedback to my comment. Keep up the great work.

  • @wiccangirl1985
    @wiccangirl1985 Před 23 dny

    I think the show did Anthony and Kate well, while the outcome of their unspoken desires coming to light was chaotic. The 2 of them had a lot of restraint. In the book, Anthony kisses Kate while he is still pursuing Edwina.

  • @glynnR275
    @glynnR275 Před 19 dny

    Y’all are spot on to my own reaction! I hated S2 because the couple infuriated me. Poor Edwina smh….

  • @Playwriter1234
    @Playwriter1234 Před 24 dny +1

    And she knew if they knew the truth that she wasn't going to get any of the money she wouldn't go along with it.

  • @MinSugaCheonjae
    @MinSugaCheonjae Před 17 dny

    The only reason I'm watching this is because I know the lady here will hate it 😂

  • @warriorprincess7901
    @warriorprincess7901 Před 20 dny

    Edwina saying her marrying anthony would have nothing to do with kate because it's her decision and her choice and meanwhile there is kate who's whole life revovlved around edwina, and every choice she makes is because of Edwina, ahe literally wouldve been married by now if not for Edwina and marry but they're just ungrateful because unlike them kate doesn't shows off her sacrifices and as the matter of fact they never made any sacrifice for kate amd the first chance edwina got to actuallu to something for kate she turned a whole 360° and showed her true colors

  • @midnightmadness7156
    @midnightmadness7156 Před 24 dny +4

    The way I can't stand your reactions. You guys make the quickest snap judgements based on assumptions and never waver because ya'll are stubborn. You had no issue with Lady Danbury messing with a married man in QC, but now suddenly you guys are worried about "morality". 😅

  • @explorationofbeauty6406
    @explorationofbeauty6406 Před 25 dny +1

    Now why would y’all say that about the featheringtons at the wedding. They way I cackled and could not stop when he said take them ugly dresses to the back 😂😂😂

    • @HuntingViolets
      @HuntingViolets Před 24 dny

      It is funny they were so far up, but I suppose because the Bridgertons have semi-adopted Penelope and they can't just give her a good seat and not her family.

  • @sashaparrish228
    @sashaparrish228 Před 24 dny

    Love your reactions and I’m definitely team Syntell on this one! (Although idk abt Kate being motivated by money and power. Maybe for her family but not for herself bc she gains nothing from the dowry) I will say people have to have more smoke for Anthony (who I love) bc this is literally all his fault 💀 I know people in arranged marriages can still find love but he gave a whole speech about how he would be unfaithful to Edwina if he married her then stared at Kate during the whole wedding lol.