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- Charles Barkley didn't mince words after the Brooklyn Nets were eliminated in the first round of the playoffs in a Boston Celtics sweep. Barkley called Nets' player Kevin Durant a 'bus rider', going on to say " If you ain't driving the bus, don't walk around talking about you a champion." Durant, or course, didn't take that lying down. With plenty of time on his hands now that the Nets' season is over, KD took to social media to post all of the times in his career Barkley had been a 'bus rider' himself. Nick Wright and Chris Broussard share their thoughts on this feud, and decide who has proven to be the real 'bus rider' over the years.
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Didn’t Durant win 2 straight final MVP’s? Wasn’t Wade the bus driver too?
Shaq, Barkley and LeBron used the REFS to get to where they are... FACTS
KD steady building his softest superstar resume
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joining a 73-9 team is the definition of bus riding
Exactly.
The reason why some people dismiss (I don’t think they dismiss it, more just don’t give it as much credit) the KD finals MVP’s is because teams were unable to double KD, because you were giving up 3’s to the best shooters ever. So essentially KD, who is one of the best scorers of all time, got to play 1on1 on the offensive end almost entirely.
That and the fact that we all know Steph and Klay deferred to him during his Warriors years so that he could enjoy his stay and remain in GS, make him feel that he is the #1 guy
A real fan that knows the game would agree 100% with you brother. ✊🙌
Amen!
Facts brother facts...I live basketball and this is the truth
Why should a team be able to double KD In order to prove that he can win lol. Better yet why would I want to play against double teams to prove I can win? Steph didn’t make the playoffs cause he was getting doubled last year, very flawed perspective.
Barkley carried 76ers and Suns. Durant rode the Warriors bandwagon
Super facts, and yet people still can't see that
Didn't durant carry okc and Brooklyn last yr? They both didn't win a chip when they carried.
@@chadd980 Did he win a championship?
Barkley wrecked. He has no chips period. Even when he decided to ride the bus ring chasing.
@@chadd980 Carry OKC? He had prime Westbrook, Harden as a 6th man, Prime Ibaka, and only reached the finals once
Nobody should call themselves "the God" especially not after getting swept in the first round when you were title favorites most of the year and were bad 4 straight games.
The sad thing is he’s still doing it 😂😂😂
Lebron lost in the 1st round but still won them 2 games... lmao..kd is trash.
@@TheNBAfan101 right? Smh
Why, cause u think the Christian “god” is the only god?
You don't know what you're talking about. It's a religious thing. You notice how KD said Nick was a god too, but chooses to be a peasant? Do you think he was just humoring him?
Kyrie is the driver and KD is in the front seat.
KD tells Kyrie "let's go right." Kyrie says "nah I'm turning when I want to."
KD doesn't want to ruin his friendship with Kyrie so he says "OK keep going straight"
Exactly. KD wouldn't have gone to Brooklyn if Kyrie didn't put the idea in his head. No one should get it twisted: The Golden State Warriors was Steph's team before KD got there, it was Steph's team _while_ KD was there, and it's still Steph's team long after KD's been gone. KD has the résumé to drive the Nets' bus, but continually defers to the passive alpha Kyrie, even as the bus is heading for the cliff at top speed.
Straight into a wall
@@NeilTruick Dafuq kind of take is that. You know KD won finals MVP twice while STEPH was there right? It might have been stephs team because he was more loved than KD but y'all need to stop treating kd like he was a 6th man coming off the bench. Take KD off Golden state and Steph has one ring two MVPs and a bunch of shooting records. I'm not saying KD doesn't owe Steph and the warriors but y'all sound like haters claiming it was a one way street and didn't benefit Steph at all.
Nah, even w/o KD, if they could get a Kawahi, a Butler or even an older star SG/SF with decent defensive abilities and team guy( ie not Melo), they would've won 2018 at least, and 2017 would've been close.
And as they go along Half-Man-Half-Season stops at a rest stop for weeks.
Kevin Durant drawing a direct comparison to himself and Charles Barkley rookie years is actually a self burn
In a logical world you are correct. Doesn’t apply to twitter though lol
That was dumb because it says that KD was a bus rider in OKC
@@cflo1386 he was he blamed Russ
KD is 34 years old this year, this is the kind of talk that should happen when you’re in your early 20s.
I just see him as an immature guy who doesn’t really care for criticism, and that’s not changing with the few great years he has left.
I don't get honestly KD has had a way better career than Barkley and he has won period. He has a right clap back he has the accolades and stats a to back it up
@@christopherfelton5169 yes, but that make barkley wrong. He is very correct. Kd sometimes looks like he wants more to respond to tweets then prove haters wrong.
@@christopherfelton5169 KD has a better career, but Barkley has a better point. Being good doesn't mean you're always right.
@@nateolison7553 thank you
Exactly. He comes across as immature. Just look at how he ended his engagement too.
Barkley was specifically talking about people who call themselves champions, and he’s never called himself a champion. So this clap back from KD is useless. Barkley would admit openly that he was a bus rider in those pictures.
Bro I swear I was the only one who thought that when did Barkley call himself a championship lol
No he wasn't. The one picture was from the 1987 Sixers were he was by far the best player. In the 1999 rockets he was by far the best player in the playoffs, in 1997 second best by a slight margin to Hakeem and in 1986 he was the best player of the sixers the second half of the season and especially in the playoffs when Moses went down.
@@georgestamatakis697 doesn’t matter anyway. He never said he was a champion.
@@Lexyboogie The point is that he wasn't a bus rider.
@@georgestamatakis697 Barkley spoke on the picture and said he wasn't the "bus driver" on those old Sixers teams. 1987 was only his 3rd year in the league, and the first time he ever made an all-star game.
KD is one of my favorite players but he clearly has not fully matured yet. He just got swept and all he’s worried about is the critics. There comes a point where you just shut everything out and focus on getting better for yourself and for your team. LeBron turns off all social media during the playoffs and thats how he carried his team to 8 straight Finals, lost most of them but he made it.
Why should he not respond, it's not like he's still in the playoffs! 🤷🏾♂️
@@jakjones8680 100% true. Im just saying this shouldn’t be his biggest concern, if he goes around calling himself “The God” he wouldn’t need to validate anything to anyone. He should just move on and focus on the important issues. Let the critics do what they do, he just needs to be what he says he is.
@@Airestotle09 still he's human bro. He's frustrated he's out of the playoffs and it wasn't due to him. I don't mind Durant taking a shot bk at Chuck. Chuck chased a ring too, in Houston, but he was old.
barkley chased a ring wherever he went , yes in Phoenix also , don't fall for the he got traded to suns BS narrative, he orchestrated the trade by wanting out of Philly
@Life O'Connell this is how the new athletes are now bro. I don't like all of it, but this situation I understand Durant. Because I remember Barkley's career and he was a great player, but he was an A hole. Things you just don't do, he did it back in his day. Not to judge him, but how he went at Durant, I understand Durant pointing a mirror 🪞 at Chuck.
I know for a fact KD would play better if he brushed his hair
ha ha ha warriors team I can be unstoppable at 51
spurs teams was welled coached and great they could beat the warriors
But he wouldnt be KD
😂😂😂😂
Charles Barkley isnt wearing a Chicago Bulls uniform standing next to Jordan Pippen and Rodman
true NBA math: Dirk Nowitski's one ring is worth more than Kevin Durants two rings.
Agreed. However, I don't know why KD is being singled out for buying cheap rings. Throw LeBron in there too...
@@auntiez4917 LBJ is the bus rider,always has been :4 FMVP
@@komaddog KD has 2 FMVP. What's your point? Why is the fake King treated differently 🤷♀️. He's never won anything without a star studded cast.
Yea I was confused, of course he didn’t mention the part of his career when he was beyond great 🤦🏾♂️
Charles can’t sniff durants greatness
@@titvngaming7693 you trippen look at the numbers. Barkley was beyond great he just played in a Era where MJ existed
Ultimately, this goes to show how much impact inside the NBA has on the game. Barkley really didn't say anything that hadn't been said before.
But HE said it. And now we got whole segments on shows on different channels. And KD just had to respond.
Or every comment by a famous nba star or former star is talked about on these nba/NFL shows
Was little funny he forgot to post his suns tenured where he done most of his damage and won A MVP
Cuz the point was to show that chuck ring chased also. Not a summary of his whole career. It was a direct response to chuck
@@chadd980 chucks point is not about championship, rather it is about leadership. Which he certainly did have during his phoenix run.
Funny how you idiots act like a 10 year run in okc before golden state where he won multiple scoring titles mvp and took his team to the finals with the same player y’all deem is so unable to win with.
@@chadd980 If that's the case then Durant just proved what everyone has been saying: He went to Golden State to ring-chase.
Kevin really needs to think about what he is trying to say before pressing the Send button.
Makes no sense for him to post that, you didn’t see Chuck bringing up KDs MVP days in OKC
KD should know that Barkley was good enough to win a chip if he happened to play in any other era than the one Michael freaking Jordan played in
tell this to larry bird, magic, hakeem etc...
@Iuri CASUAL alert... they're in no way comparable... bird and magic were both playing for DYNASTIES and MJ was by himself, pippen was a bum when he first started for the bulls and how tf are you comparing HAKEEM to barkley? Hakeem a top 10 player and barkley nowhere near that
What happened when MJ retired in 93? Hakeem stepped up and he didn't. No excuses
He could have won a title in then, all he had to was go to the Knicks. Imagine instead of Mason or Oakley you had Chuck along side Ewing. But no way he being in his prime would have done that.
@@invalidusername201 so now pippen was a bum! Jordan w/o pippen 1-9 jordan with pippen 6-6. Be better dude with your argument. Calling pippen a bum to elevate jordan c'mon man.
No one ever mentions that when KD got Hurt in the second round of the 2019 playoffs the warriors still went to the finals.
And lost
@@bohammondlee7472 losing I'm the finals is a whole lot better then getting swept in the first round.
Klay went down in that finals also
Pascal siakiam became a household name after that finals very unsung hero
And lost
You don’t get to call yourself a “God” and boast about how good you are when the entire world saw how horrible you played for 4 games straight
Cooold blooodeeed😂
Irvin is the problem not KD
@@ppsicharis6915 Both
KD was the best player in Warriors but that’s in large part again to Steph Curry who sacrificed and deferred to KD because Steph was that unselfish. And like CB said teams game planned for Steph. He avg 27 ppg in 2017 Finals and 28 ppg in 2018 Finals. 31 ppg in 2019 without KD in many games. But Steph was key and teams wanted to take him out of the game and stop him so badly from shooting the basketball. KD was co-pilot but not in the Drivers seat, agreed 💯👏🏽
He was not the best player y’all have to stop with that
Steph is better than kd facts
I can’t believe Wildes is defending this. Durant was along for the ride. The dude went to a 73 win team. What is so hard to understand about that?!?
Not hard enough
We got robbed to see the best series ever
Warriors Vs Cavs
After KD, it was over
The 2 finals mvp is what makes that hard to understand. Pretty obvious
Durant ain't call them though they wanted him
Can't be along for a ride if you're the best player and finals mvp
@@jctslice 73 wins WITHOUT kd....why did they need him again??
Wildes said KD is the leader because 2 FMVPs, but what about Iggy having 2015 FMVP? Steph's ego was so low that he allowed others to shine. But we all know, Steph is the huge reason for the Warriors allowing them selves to build around him and it paid off, they didn't build around KD. KD came to build himself around Steph. End of story
I mean I gotta agree with Nick, KD is amazing, dude is top 15 all time however he didnt really beat adversity. Yes the pressure was crazy in Golden State because if GSW lost, KD would be looked at as the biggest scrub in history however they werent going to lose. That Warriors team were essentially unbeatable. He intentionally entered into an unbeatable situation because he wasnt able to win a ring by himself. There were like 3 other players KD could have given the ball to to bail him out if things went wrong. The defense wasnt focused on him because they had to focus on Curry and Klay as well. Dude was playing ball on easy mode. Sa what you want about Lebron, but Lebron won rings on beatable teams.
Winner winner. Nailed it.
If gsw win the chip this year kd should just give back his ring gsw as the same team that they have
@sm•What you are choosing to overlook is the fact that the GS players flew to KD's home and recruited Kevin to come lead them! Yes they were all good, but Kevin led them although it was Steph's team. No one says they came to him, but they do say falsely that he went to them. KD IS 5-1 AGAINST LABRON, AND THEY NEEDED THAT.
How is he too 15? Based on what? What’s his playoff record without Steph?
@@thej1615 Idk, I dont really have a ranking, Im just going off of what most people believe he would be placed. Like I know ESPN or some other major sports journalists ranked him like 12th all time or whatever.
Agreed with Charles Barkley, KD wasn't the bus driver at Warriors team & that's one of the reasons why KD left Warriors (he wanted to be a bus driver). Everything built around Curry & that including the way Warriors basketball created/ball movements (Bay area fans know & want Curry to be our bus driver). Klay, Dray and KD were the co-pilot. Curry is/was the face of Warrior's organization/team.
KD came along for the ride with 73 winning team, and he wouldn't have any ring today if he didn't join the Warriors. KD even jealous of how much the Bay area fans love & respect Curry and so he left. KD, tried to build a new bus and 3 years later, the bus he is driving today (overlooked by Kyrie), still has NO ring. He is 34 years old & will NEVER win another ring with this dysfunctional organization/team. KD is lucky to get his two rings & two FMVP with Warriors and that is!!! The truth always hurt & that's why KD fired back at Charles Berkley who has a very good assessment of who was/is a bus driver at Warriors.
I always felt that he left the Warriors because of that whole situation with Draymond. Steph and Klay are Draymond's brothers. Period. They will never fall out. Everybody else can get it from Draymond.(aka Justin Poole) Now that's what I believe the real deal was...and will always be! The last thing nobody wants to give some serious thought to, is that KD joining the Warriors just doesn't impact he's career, but Draymond's, Steph and Klay's as well. If KD gets an asterisk by his name for those championships, then so does everyone else, including the coach and organization. Now what say to that AMERICA??? Peace and blessings to ALL!!!
Steph Curry took Kevin Durant out against OKC and went on to win a championship 'FAX'! Kevin Durant has never taken Steph Curry out! the warriors was a championship caliber team before Kevin Durant came, because they won a championship before Kevin Durant, and stepped on Kevin Durant to go get it. Steph has proven that he can put the numbers up to win a championship, while Steph did not win MVP! none of the championships would have been won without Curry's 30+ points! Period!
the reason why Kevin Durant won MVP, is because Steph was double teamed at half court, and Kevin Durant had more opportunities to score! Steph Curry is The XFactor! Steph Curry won against LeBron James, and went back to the finals the next year without KD; KD would have never won a finals MVP on his own, because he didn't before Steph Curry and KD didn't do it after Steph Curry! The end! Curry 3 championships over KD's 2, and 5 Finals Warriors appearances; the constant in the scenario is Steph Curry not Kevin Durant! FAX!
Quick correction, it was the Cavs and LeBron who won the chip when Steph and the warriors took out KD and OKC in 2016
@@MrGameonthis 👍 correct.. thanks, but the number still stand. Off a year.
The only time Steph won a championship without KD was in 2016 only they got lucky that year when Kyrie and Irving and Kevin Love got injured and missed the finals. They need KD to beat the Cavs in the finals when they were at full strength.
And KD was finals MVP both times they won it together. I know you'll say it was because Steph got double-teamed. But great players like MJ, Kobe, Lebron , Shack got doubled and still won finals MVP. And what about the years Steph played in the finals without KD in 2015, 2016 and 2019 and still wasn't named finals MVP?
I wonder if KD would have ever won a ring if he never went to GSW?
Also if the Warriors didn't sign KD they would've found a replacement not as good but I bet they make the finals a few more times and win another ring or 2.
He wouldn't have any rings right now. What a cop out!
DRUGS
obviously not uhh
The warriors were not beating the rockets are cavaliers without KD. Stop it.
Now he has his chance with Phoenix. I think he can do it.
I can name 15 players from that era that couldve won that same GS ring.
Javaaaale mcgee got 2 with them.. So i think you can make it 50 players.
Every all-star in the league couldve won that same GS ring.
Nick nailed this take. If you don't understand it then you don't understand sports.
Nick: The most clutch player of the GSW-dynasty was Klay Thompson. Klay averaged 16 ppg and 46 FG% in the two finals series with KD.
@@penkima4923 Let's presume a game gives on average 80 shot attempts (it will probably have less). KD and Curry will get their share which usually is 20 each. So you have more 40 to divide by 8 players (3 starters and bench unit). If you give Klay 20, it becomes 20 to 7 players. Don't you see a problem with this numbers.
@@pedromoreira2875 Don't I see? I paraphrased what Nick said.
KD actually was riding in one of those motorcycle side cars following the bus
We dismiss the finals mvps because he didn’t need to score 30 a game for them to win. Him simply being on the court is enough to never face a double team if you’re Steph or klay. Those rings are micky mouse clubhouse rings and until he wins one without a 73 win team he has zero rings in my eyes
He earned the rings. He also earns the narrative that comes with it, until he proves otherwise. Because of attention span purposes his greatness, as all other otherworldly players, will always be unquestioned, rings or no rings......
KD is a crybaby and his ring is weak. But the year before KD joined the Warriors, they performed the greatest choke job in the history of the NBA Finals when they blew a 3-1 lead with Draymond crying in the parking lot calling for Durant to join them. So, yeah, the Warriors REALLY NEEDED KD to win. Couldn't win otherwise. Cleveland had them figured out.
That 73 win team didn't win a championship without him either. The only time they won without him was when the team they faced in the finals was missing two of their top three players. The 73 win team couldn't beat that Cavs team at full strength without KD.
@@pedrofior2562 this story has been debunked so many times though. It's tired
@@rovingwarrior3710 That is debatable since Draymond got suspended (rightfully so but still relevant).
Kd could've flew his own helicopter around OKC, or flew his Private Jet to any other team. But no. He chose to hop on the GREY HOUND with steph and head to CALIFORNIA ...just that simple..
KD would be ringless without Curry. He’s Carmelo Anthony with 2 rings
Lebron would be ringless without Wade, Kyrie or AD…Jordan without Pippen….what is your point….
For the 2018 playoffs Durant Averaged 29 8 5 , Curry averaged 25.5 6 and 5. Curry dictates the entire offense. Yet they want to make it seem like Durant Carried the warriors to victory.
Quite the other way around. KD got the easiest looks of his life while defenses honed in on Steph, leaving KD in isolation because they’d rather have KD beat them over Steph. That shows us who was actually better on that team.
that's not true....draymond green dictates the offense....and when DG is not playing the warriors struggles....facts!
8:08 i love how after 8 minutes explaining what charles meant this guy just goes on to completely miss the point XD
Hate to say it but KD comes off shoft he always crying when someone critizes him !
Can't take a grown man who kisses his mother in the mouth.
Is KD suffering from like memory loss because he completely left out Barkleys' Suns tenure
There is no such thing as a co bus driver.. either u driving the bus or you paid money to be on the bus..which kd did.. took less money to play for golden state..which means he paid to ride Steph bus
Stupid choices photos of KD.
Barkley was a shell of himself after injury with the Rockets.
The point Chuck was driving at was when he was "the man" with the Suns.
Suspiciously, KD omitted including Chuck's real prime where he was the beast bus driver of the Suns with KJ & Majerle.
KD not only bum in the sweep but also dumb in reasoning out against Sir Charles.
I don't know why KD gets so much credit for those Finals MVPs. All the double teams were going to Curry, and KD got more open shots and paths to the rim than he's ever had in his career. Go watch Thinking Basketball's analysis video on KD/Steph. KD's playoff numbers in Golden State fall off significantly with Steph on the bench. Steph's numbers are basically identical with KD on the bench. Which is exactly why defenses prioritized Steph. And people still want to act like KD was the best or most important player on those Warriors teams. Add any scoring superstar to a Steph/Klay backcourt, and of course their numbers will go way up. People love pointing out KD's shot over LeBron... excuse me, can you imagine what prime LeBron would do with Steph and Klay?
Bill Russel???
Wildes clearly doesn’t get it
KD worried his Brooklyn nets time has been failure so far
It’s that He doesn’t care . That’s the problem lol he said it numerous times he plays for fun
In the analogy, Steph was definitely the elder captain of the plane, and KD was the younger co-pilot, a competent pilot in his own right, but he definitely is not the one in charge of giving instructions out to other crew members.
Durant also chose to ignore Barkley being on the 1992 and 1996 dream teams
KD JUST CARRIED THE US TEAM TO GOLD BARKLEY DIDNT
@@factsonly2764 Chuck was the top scorer at the '92 Olympics. Let's not act like he was Christian Laettner.
@@factsonly2764 Chuck was literally the best player on the 92 Dream Team, in terms of performance.
@@jonathanbaird8109 carried and best player are two different things right
I love Kevin Durant, but he ain’t too 10 all time. Top 15 maybe?
So if Jordan Pool win 2 ring with GS can we put him in the same tier as KD🤔
Barkley doesn't have to worry about getting credit for being the bus driver on a championship team.
Remarkably you guys are so so good with reference to years and stat numbers ✅✅✅
Barkley not lyin
Barkley was the entire bus.
Built and drove it.
There's a difference between being the best player and being a leader.
The thing that bugs me is; much like with the games themselves I feel like the people covering it and even KD are just watching clips and forming their opinions off of that. Like the criticisms of Barkley are things he already said about himself, and apparently nobody heard that part.
Kevin Durant s pictures selection is like saying yes I’m a bus rider and you were too
The way KD could polish up his image/legacy is to go get it done in OKC, he left there with unfinished business.
Steph “allowed” KD to be great!
When you have 2 of the best shooters beside as teammates that are all stars plus mvp caliber.. I think it's way easier to win. It's like a video game.
Barkley is one of my favorite because he most of the time talking about the winners, Just keep it up.
There are a lot of victims of Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls such as Clyde Drexler and Charles Barkley.
Barkley is only partially right because the Nets are absolutely terrible without Durant and Irving. Drexler and
Barkley had great teams in Portland and Phoenix. Not to mention the great team like Seattle Supersonics
with Gary Payton and Shawn Kemp who could not avoid the Chicago Bulls.
that's facts
Drexler won a chip tho.. in 95 with Houston.
because the media built Jordan . media was soft back then
Thanks for the replies. So Kevin Durant should be able to lead the team to the championships but there is no way when the team is absolutely horrible except for the one teammate.
Well said Nick ! 👍 we all know KD is soft mentally…he’s a mamas boy.
Same with LB clapping back at Charles too. Both those 2 guys are soft as
never thought I'd never say I'd agree with Nick, but spot on about Barkley
you cant join a 73 win team and call yourself a co-pilot 🤣
KD was the most clutch on those golden state teams not Klay stop it.
Game 6 Klay would beg to differ. Ask KD about Game 6 Klay, he got a taste of it in the 2016 WCF finals when him and Westbrook choked
It’s easy to be clutch when u got two deadly snipers you have to worry about . Y’all need to stop it.
It was klay. Without klay, they have 2 less rings
If KD was surrounded by Steph Klay and Draymond against these Celtics he would look like a finals MVP too. So would any super star. It’s why those Golden State years mean nothing towards whether or not KD can lead a team which is what he’s trying to prove he’s done. Someone needs to come out and say to KD’s face you have never lead a team anywhere. You needed that leadership more than they needed your talent since they won before and are winning after
Durant is really good at twitter. He knows what he was doing by not putting up pics of chuck in phoenix.
Facts and context really dont matter on twitter lol
Thank you Sir. well said.
Charles Barkley if you can't beat em.. Join em.. KD learn well from you Chuck.. 🤣🤣🤣 Ray Allen on that list too
ray won before. just cause he joined later doesn’t negate that
@@Cloud-ii7dg he never beat that Prime Heat team in a series.. Him Rondo KG and Pierce couldn't win against them
@@jvtopflight796 ok but he had already won and that was an old team at that point. Boston blew it all up like the very next year. Dont compare Ray Allen's move to KD's come on lol
@@Adam-zy9fv Blew it up because they lost him.. And no they blew it up after the lost to the Knicks.. Which Allen was heading into his 3rd yr with the Heat when they traded KG and Paul..
never Charles was not ring chasing he was greatNess chasing
We gotta stop comparing these dudes to Lebron that artificially inflate there career... I believe KD is a great phenomenal player but there are undeniable levels to being a superstar I know you all know that I'm just simply reiterating it.
Gosh！Why everything is about Lebron? He is not a measuring stick to judge other NBA players. When we talk about KD, we should measure him with historic legends. Same goes with Lebron. Lebron is not yet a historic legend. He is still being measured.
@@sjsupa how is lebron not a historic legend
@@Tom-dn6zy To Lebron fans, he is.
@@sjsupa Did you really just say LeBron is not a historic legend? My guy do you even watch basketball?
@@MrFreakazoid23 To Lebron fans, he is. I give you that.
Can't believe I finally found something Nick's said that I agree with.
skip would say KD faced the most pressure when he was on the warriors having to stare lebron down in the finals.. made me realize why i stopped watching undisputed and started watching this as much as i used to watch that
Durant is not a leader... his definitely a bus rider.... enough said..
have we forgot already how Wardell Curry went in to Brooklyn this year and torched KD and Harden and had them sitting on the bench the whole 4th period listening to Nets fans Cheer Curry? Steph's only had 1 Co-Pilot....Klay. and he did'nt even need him early this year when he torched his son KD.
Thank you!!
I definitely agree with Nick and Chris 🤣 honestly
bro KD joined like a 70 win team in Golden State! lol he definitely a passenger no darn co pilot LMAO
Why don't they keep the same energy with LeBron the dude has done the samething lol 20 year career half of it with superteams... the other half won 1 mickey mouse chip still Give him credit for that more than all the other b.s his done his entire career
Golden state is special for me there are 3 drivers, klay dray and steph but overall it's steph team but you need this 3 players to call them the warriors
Kevin Durant knows Barkley is right. That's why he is hurt
I dismiss KD's two Finals MVP trophies. Cavs vs Warriors was pretty even in the Finals the first 2 years. When Durant joined the Warriors, it became such a mismatch that there was little pressure. If LeBron James joins the Warriors next year and wins Finals MVP, are we really going to celebrate what he accomplished or are we going to say he just joined a situation that made it infinitely easier for him?
And KD apologists will make it seem like GSW got swept by lebron with NO chance of winning if they just ran it back the next year…ridiculous
Let's simplify it further. There's only one driver seat. So if KD was the bus driver in GSW, so Steph was just a bus rider? LOL. I don't think so. Steph's number might be lower with KD on team, but everyone in the squad knows it's Steph's team. Not Durant. So clearly KD was just a bus rider.
The motion offense works because of Steph. KD fit in and did great, but it wasn’t his team.
tell kd to watch kobe win back to back when he chose to be the man
We’re caught up playing the impassioned protagonist in our Subjective Narrative of Self 🎈
Bus & co-pilot metaphors for sports instead of sports metaphors for life. I thought Wildes would be happy but he thinks they're the wrong metaphors. 😁
those 97 Rockets were definitely a super team
it’s dishonest to say Hakeem, Barkley & Clyde were “too old” or “past their prime” when the league’s top superstars at that time (MJ, Karl Malone, Pippen, Stockton, Ewing, D Rob, Reggie etc) were also in their early to mid 30s
the 97 Rockets were considered title favorites when they linked up. no excuses
That's not the point. The point is Durant has never won anything as The Man. He wasn't The Man in Golden State. In OKC he couldn't close out the team he ended up joining. And now Durant is perceived as The Man in Brooklyn but he is deferring to another person (Irving) who thinks he is The Man but don't have a clue about being The Man.
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Broussard shouldn't change the parameters of the discussion by saying there are co pilots.
It's either your team (bus driver) or not (passenger).
Don't cuckold your rightful position.
Wow, one of those rare Nick arguments that not only make sense, but also absolutely correct.
After the finals…..KD signs a 4 yr contract to secure his large cash bag but had no intentions of staying….now looking for a bus ride w the SUNS! 😅😂🤣 what a clown 🤡🤡🤡
Funny how they didn't mention KD taking the OKC thunder to the finals before his prime as the bus driver. KD's point was that at this exact same age that hes at, Charles had given up on leading his own team and went to a super team that he still didn't achieve a championship with. Not to mention KD has gone through a torn achilles which no one even thinks about. KD is still trying to lead a team and frankly was the Nets ONLY consistent player the entire season.
KD went to the finals as the “bus driver” and lost, same thing happened to Charles when he went to the finals as the bus driver, even tho okc had a three headed goal granted all before their primes but when you see suns photos from those 90s teams it’s a lot of only one guy that guy being Charles. Kd went to an established championship caliber team that just came off a 73-9 season and a chip to join 3 guys all in their primes where Charles grouped up with a bunch of guys outside of their prime. In all fairness to Kd recency bias is crazy and he was injured and he has been the most consistent nets player and he has two rings and finals mvps whether you say he was the bus driver or rider on the gsw but to react on social media is a cop out to the disappointment of his nets tenure so far and to negate Charles prime in his photos just gave the media more fire. Charles just said it’s hard to be the leader and take all the blame and to basketball fans have those titles with the warriors and leave to do it alone and not succeed but be widely considered the best player with the most skilled player.
Wildes is tripping Steph deserved the first finals MVP with Durant 26-8-9 at 6'3 while being doubled and tripled/game planned for and he was on his way to deserving the second year with Durant finals MVP before that god awful game 3 in which he just was off and it happens when you're being doubled and game planned for meanwhile KD saw single coverage all game long and was even being sagged off and given free lanes to the rim because they didn't want to give up a three to Steph or Klay.
Nick is 36, talking about go look it up kiddos about a 1993 nba game. 😭 you was like 5 mr.
They really latching on to this bus driver metaphor
wildes really got on live TV and lied about kd being the focul point of the motion offense that he disrupted by tryimg to go iso in the houston series whic is a huge reason it went 7
exactly and notice in 2019 when kd got injured they beat them in 6 and went 6-0 to the finals without him
Durant took the coward's way into a championship. Deep inside, he knows that.
Nick Wright bases all his viewpoints on stats. All he knows is a league where if you don't score 95 points a game and put up 15-20 3 pointers a night.
Thank you Wilds
Charles Barkley should just shut it!! He always hating on my Boy AD calling him Street clothes. Now you hating on KD stop it mannnn…..
You make it seem like he wrong 💀
everything you just said was stupid
i could only imagine why AD is now nick named street clothes
@@malik1active Charles Barkley a hater. Where his rings at………. I’ll wait
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Nick
How is 6 Finals losses… “Lebron always rising to the occasion in pressurized situations”???
He manufactured championships by gathering league-stars in their primes!!!
Durant manufactured his by joining GSW!!!
They’re the same! Not different!
They both get asterisks!!!***
Lebron being the best player in the world… loss 6 Finals series!!! As in… ya got 7 chances to be the best.
He lost 60% of his Finals Appearances!!
Legacy
lebron's moves are not the same as kd's moves theyre not really comparable. And lebron has always been better than KD until like maybe this year and even then we dont know.
Lmao u ah troll apparently I was gonna go off but u obviously not serious
Kd blew a 3-1 lead to the gsw to get to the finals. Then joined gsw after they won 73-9. Lebron got beat by Celtics then went to a heat team that gutted their team then had to rebuild it from ground up. Kd joined gsw where he practically just replaced Harrison Barnes. The team mostly stayed the same. Dude went to the team that embarrassed him 😂😂😂
@@ja1boi lebrons move to Miami is like kd’s move to Brooklyn only difference is he failed
Y’all can adjust to these soft dudes if y’all want. I must be from a different era, when alphas didn’t call each other up all giggly talking about joining forces.
It was harder to put up those point totals. back then too-
Chuck dropping some philosophical thoughts that are making people have arguments about what he said.
Kd is already a top 10 player all time, he swept arguably the goatin his prime in back to back finals, post achilles kd got nothing to prove, he arguably the greatest scorer too, if he wins one more in Brooklyn he moves to #5 on all time greats
argument
You, KD and maybe his mother are the only one's who believe what you just typed
Uno basketball well never see another kd
@@stinger5127 it’s facts kd can do it all
I can see KD‘s frustration. It’s almost like people want him to win and have to struggle with no other guy on his team that can pull weight. And outside of Dirk In 2011 who else has done that the last 25 years or ever?
Not tryna hear that excuse he went to a 73-9 team no one in the history of the nba has had that kind of help.
Funny how these guys get so caught up on these analogies .
Nick is just horrible
Are you that better you ?
He's spitting FAXX
@@lanafelix8649 can you make sense first?
@@jeremiahsmith7706 maybe to the 🤡s
@@Tuesflex wack