Installing Lithionics Batteries on our Sailboat | S06E22
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- čas přidán 22. 10. 2021
- This week we continue to tear into Atticus II to install our new Lithionics Batteries + high output alternator electrical system. We wrap up all of the wiring, swap out our batteries, and hold our breath while we test the entire system to find out if we did anything wrong!
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Please carry extra belts. That said, You guys are great. Jordan, you are a natural teacher!! You explain everything in a way that is easy to understand and to absorb. A real pleasure to watch.
Extra belts and those custom Pulleys, Great electrical work for sure.
Neil: *pause* "that was awesome"
Pretty much sums it up!
Something that I found works great for adding labels, is to use clear shrink wrap tubing to hold the labels in place. That way you don't need to make a "flag" with the label that gets caught on things.
That's how I have been doing it for a long time
Thanks I have been thinking about a better method!
Do you know if regular heat shrink tubing is adequate for marine environments or whether epoxy lined is the best bet?
We use regular clear shrink wrap tubing over the labels on the end of our Cliff Rescue ropes to denote their age and those ropes go through some nasty conditions. I've never seen the tubing come off and if it gets oogy, probably time for a new rope anyway!
Jordan I cannot compliment you enough. With my 12 or so years of avionics and industrial electrical and controls systems background. Your OJT on-the-job training was truly impressive. Your head must be busting at it seams. The team that you hired was perfect, especially when they used the temp-checker to verify the installation. That was so spot on and that you included it in the video was well done. Yes hooking everything together before you can "check and test" can be mentally challenge. Seeing that amperage as compared the temp was truly fantastic. Again further testament to the team that made all of this happen. Manifesting a vision in ones mind into a reality is quite the accomplishment.
Those wires are really hard to work with. The level of engineering depth and planning will pay off in the long run. One of the key pieces to the entire system, if I i got it right, was the main switch update, which provides the ability with no electronics to start the engine by two power sources.
What I missed is, can you power your electronics directly off the batteries even if all the "power distribution" circuit shuts down. Meaning, in emergency can you keep your communication equipment running and/or charge things like the sat phone?
Finally your candid statement that you are fully aware of the risks that come with the level of technology giving out at the wrong time. There is nothing like a having a "traditional high-quality sextant & compass" to navigate with, besides plastic charts of where you are sailing. Of course with the level of your seamanship and down-to-earth approach, you probably already have a bag with these items .
Again congrats to the both you as you build your blue water dream boat. One more thing, Captain Otto looks really cool with that hint of brown mustache. Very dignified looking more and more like a seadog he is!
Be safe the both you. As I look forward to your videos, just wish I had the time to help you guys, more than I can.
FYI: On other channels that do off-grid solar systems, they sell the schematics, as well as in-depth how-to video's.
You’ve come a long way Bud. From the Key West to this. Just wow!! Can’t wait to see y’all down south and loving the sun and enjoying all this hard work…
That Livestream with Nigel Calder was totally awesome. So so much wisdom from long experience. He's a gem.
So glad you changed that cable tie, was halfway through harping on about it and was duly surprised to hear it was the final topic lol. Was not even worried about the heat just the friction over a couple of years and the fact that it would be a solid earth ( starting batt) on the almighty positive. Well done on all accounts now.
same
Neil is a cool dude. Real Pro.
These technical videos just hit different, the planning, research and execution are awesome to watch great video!
I want Neil and Scott on my boat. They show awesome care and service. Top notch guys.
You guys are consistently one of the best Sailing channels on CZcams! Thanks for sharing this info on electrical systems - very useful info.
Congrats on going lithium! I'll be looking into that when I get a boat. Oh, and an update from a comment I made on one of your last videos- I passed my ASA sailing classes! 🥳
One of the newer sailing channels that hasn't even sailed anywhere just was gifted with a full set of Battleborn lithium batteries (I'm guessing $5k worth at least). I bet a lot of people are seething with envy.
Really impressive electrical system installation. Your marine electrical contractor did such a neat job. Everything is so well laid out and organized. I think you have a very reliable and serviceable system there. *** Please, make sure that you carry a couple of alternator drive belts in your maintenance kit, always; the belt is going to fail eventually. (Just sayin')
Thanks for sharing this amazing journey into the world of electric systems on a boat! Never thought it to be so complex and intriguing at the same time.
Electrical 'stuff' has always been in the category of 'magical' to me. You guys are amazing, and we know Desiree was there all the way as support crew, chief cook and bottle washer, dog Mom, general caretaker to allow you the space... loved the explanations even I could understand. "More power Scotty!"
You are so smart, having the boat wired by professionals, eliminating imperfections. After upgrading to Lithium we were forced to change our shore-power battery charger, specifically designed for Li-Ion batteries.
Buds!!! This is my dream system that I've been imagining for my boat. I too got giddy as I saw the amps rapidly climb past 100 and beyond to "ludicrous speed". The detail and level of craftsmanship is top notch. Thanks so very much for sharing the project.
I am so glad i watched until the end. Because when i saw the wire zip tied to the alternator i was thinking.....well 2 hours of motoring and the boat will be on fire. Im glad that was addressed.
Cool beans guys, you have reached the epitome of electrical boat systems for your fine rig. When you have the best of the best, it's comforting.
I admire your courage and dedication!
Wow that is a impressive charging current. Well thought and well done. 👍🏻
Some great ideas and very worth while exploring !! Stay Safe & Fair Winds !!
What I know about electricity is "On-Off," so watching this and last week's episodes would seem to be completely mind boggling. And since I don't own a boat, even more so. But am I wrong in thinking lots of viewers with the same skill levels as me, find it all to be really interesting. I hope so because it is these episodes I find as interesting as all the blue water ones, past and future. Thanks for sharing the building, wiring and installing information. Fascinating. Now I need to go make coffee, so another miracle of electricity. "On".
I couldn’t agree more!
I took electric shop in high school and that's about the extent of my electrical knowledge. So I'm no mechanical genius or wizard, but I'm equally fascinated by the carefully planned and seemingly perfect execution of this project!
Love the "and there was light!" moment even though it wasn't celebrated greatly. :-)
That was awesome, you guys did a fantastic job and so planned and presented
Wow! So cool, lots of great information. Grateful for you guys and your instructional videos! It was great seeing you at the boat show and getting to absorb some of your wisdom on boat buying! Have a safe sail down to North Carolina!
Great episode! 👍 what a setup you guys have so impressive. 👌
I really like the use of the infrared therm to test the heat in the cabling while running the system, I have never thought to use mine for that. Absolutely beautiful installation fellas, thanks for sharing!
Very nice installation! Very well thought out. It's almost time to go cruising!
Another great episode dude Now across ocean hopefully 😁
amazing system - the best I have ever seen. Great job.
I was impressed by the heat testing on components to make sure there are no hot spots. Super smart, and that gun was cool! :)
Hey guys! First off…amazing episode and congratulations on installing an amazing system!
Second, I’d like to mention how much we appreciate that you haven’t gone down the rabbit hole of inserting a *hit ton of ads in your videos!!! We totally appreciate the time and effort you must put into your content for amazing, informative and entertaining videos! Many of our channels that we’ve subscribed to are losing us as they put so many ads in their videos, it becomes too disruptive to enjoy watching them. I’d much rather contribute directly to you via PATREON (yes, we have yet to do that but it’s coming!) than watch endless ads. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. Many of us are on CZcams to avoid watching ads like on TV. Keep going guys! Can’t wait for you to cast off for your next journey and you WILL see a financial contribution from us very soon! You can hold our feet to the fire on that one…we’re working on our boat for next summer cruise up to Haida Gwaii in BC, Canada and our boat gets first dibs.
Thanks again.
Phil
Well done! Two thumbs up! 👍🏼
I’m ready for just sailing videos again.
Jordan, this is some MacGyver stuff! You are on it buddy!
This is a awesome info! Learning a lot to use on our project Thanks for making these!!
Really happy to see a successful install. Nice to also see that you checked the temperature of the connections and wires. 2kW is pushing a lot of power for 12V.
Very educational and interresting. I try to soak up everything and use the knowlegde on my own boat during this winter 😃
WOW, that was a major step you guys needed to accomplish to get back out off shore!
Haven't heard from you guys in a while! So nice to see you again. Man did that dog grow!
Captain Oso is awesome
Great installation, really informative video. You knocked this one out if the park. Really enjoyed this one. 👍👍
All the best Team Atticus
Amazing power system, congratulations!!!!
Very exciting.. Thanks again guys.
an awesome video with so many lessons learned.
Good job and good video! Thank you for showing us, a great adventure for sure! J.R.
Thank goodness you addressed the alternator cable I was already writing my text at 23 minutes into the video as my retired mechanic self started getting irate hahaha
To think that Delos used to be my go-to sailing channel and now I can't wait to see J-Dog and D-Ray, even if they're doing super boring stuff. haha
Greetings from FIJI 🇫🇯.
May not be feasible for some people but when I was a diesel mechanic we made battery cables. Took the end lugs and put in a vice. Heated them with a propane torch and filled them half full of solder and then inserted the cable into the molten metal. Followed up with heat shrink. They wouldn’t corode like a crimped lug would.
This is the second sailing video today installing Lithium-Iron systems. I just watched Expedition Evans do the same thing.
I completely rewired our 1980 Hughes 38 three years ago. Although now much more complicated, the reliability is 100% and it gives great peace of mind when offshore.
EXCELLENT WORK!!!!
Thank you!!!
Looks like an amazing upgrade! Hope everything works well offshore! Best wishes! Hi Oso!
What a great install, great team work! ⚡⚡⚡Next stop Annapolis Boat Show! ⛵🚤🛥🚤
Thanks for throwing in a couple minutes of eye candy for those of us who struggle with some of the deeper technical stuff. Cap’n Oso is so amazing! Can’t wait to see him sail next week.
This is great, every sailing Channel I watch has just recently had a video and going lithium
Looking gooooood!
Amazing well done
This has been very educational and exciting! When. I get my next boat and go electric motor, I'll be hiring your guy to help me. Thanks for the info and video!
In case your were curious, Sailing Parlay Revival STILL brings people to your channel. Nevermind the fact that Umatticus brought us here the first time. But the 2nd time earned the sub, haha.
Congratulations Jordan good job
Love The OB sticker in the battery compartment. My home town.....
We love you!
Who needs the “Electrical Book for Dummies”? Give me Jordan! Well done 👍. Cheers 🍻
Neal, that was exactly what I was thinking for a bracket on the alternator. I was also thinking about a plexiglass cover over that wall of all your connections. We've used small red fiberglass insulators as stand-off supports for the plexiglass. You can't see through plexiglass with IR cameras so we tell our customers to cut 1/2 holes through the entire panel. That way you can still see through it enough to use an IR device. The plexiglass is just to keep you from accidentally touching anything energized.
I'm a retired IBEW test technician.
That was a beautiful installation. You guys did an excellent job. 🤝🤝🤝👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Heck yea!!! Well done ! ⚡️ ⛵️✌🏼♥️
I absolutely love you guys & Project Atticus. I do feel a bit out of place in the comment section. Im totally not a boat person. The only thing I know about sailing comes from watching Project Atticus.
Love the final comment about wIre zip tied to alternator. I saw that and was surprised given how everything else was done so perfect. Was going to say something like you knew I was going to make a comment 🤣. Looks really good. I am surprised a bit about how there are only two batteries but they look huge. The just keeping getting denser
The install looked clean to me! Very nice.
I do have to agree with Tim Trampenau about the "get home" plan, that is a lot of electronics on a sailboat.
Most excellent...nicely done! You can get exhaust system brackets that have rubber mounts at any muffler/exhaust shop. They come in handy for lots of stuff and are very inexpensive.
Thank you!!
Nice setup
Woo hoo it's done!!
I have put a layer of rubberized caulking and would smear a layer around the designated sockets I would use for electrical work. A colored caulking is better for knowing when maintenance needs done. Great video
WOW......Just awsome!!
Three videos on your battery and solar array. Jordon I'm glad it's being done professionally.
So glad it all worked ! I installed a Wakespeed last year in the bus and have yet to get it to charge our lithium, however I did smoke a $700.00 56v alternator in the process 😆 I forgot to learn that I needed to derate the field current to 25% since it’s 12v and not 48v. some day when I get Wakespeed to actually send me the correct program they said they would I can use my system lol
Awesome!
It is always a great feeling when a project comes together and works as planned on the first try!
I am a little surprised that you didn't go with a bit higher voltage and smaller cables. Also, I always silver soldered wire that could be exposed to corrosion, ie saltwater, however, the time and effort may have been more than the risk/ benefit.
Hey Guys,
I just have to say thank you so very much for your videos on this subject... it is so very helpful. I have been seriously considering upgrading my 12v electrical system on my Pacific Seacraft 44 . It is almost identical to you whole system.. and I also want to add in some solar just like you have done. Yes your upgrade from what I have seen will be a carbon copy of what you have done. Yes some small differences , I do have a Kabota generator , with a Bomar 200amp hr and a 140amp hr on the same engine you have .. made by the man that invented your belt drive system . Oh yes I purchased 3 additional belts for spares and he told me who am I going to .. Put in my Will , whom will receive those additional belt when I am gone...lol I was told that the belts will almost never need replacing. I do want to know how it all works out for you in the long run.
Robert
North Star
IF YOU WANT TO OWN A BOAT YOU FIRST MUST KNOW HOW TO BUILD ONE FROM TOP TO BOTTOM!!! JORDAN BRO... YOU'RE VERY SMART GUY... DEFINITELY MADE MY PEA BRAIN HEAD SPIN!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍❤️
LUVYALL....AND OSO!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️ BETTER THAN ANY TRAVEL CHANNEL SHOW I'VE EVER SEEN!!!! RELAXING TO WATCH AFTER A LONG DAY OF NORMAL GRIND ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😁
I love your Ocean Beach sticker 😍
Absolutely loved the technical off-grid install tutorial. You content was clear and easy to understand. My only question is the high voltage alternator. I personally am going with an 800w wind turbine because I’ve watched the guy from Saillife really struggle with a similar concept. That being said , I really hope it works for you guys . Loved the episode!!
Sam
A most fabulous episode ‼️ And, yes, we are saving this with the others to use as reference for when we have our boat. May even get to Robinhood Marina and engage Neal and Scott. Thanks for all this effort. ✨🌊🌬⛵️🏝👙🌞✨
Wow, that’s a lot of technology in one boat.
Awesome! Thanks for clarifying moving the cable away from the alternator as my initial thoughts in seeing this was “Get it away from the hot alternator”.
I liked that you used skilled help with the install as that was a smart move. I’m watching Expedition Evans and he is installing Lithium Batteries on his own which I think is a bad mistake as I don’t think he even has the right tools. He should probably have thought about thinking through the whole process like you did!
Well you changed over everything brightened up
I know these last few videos/live streams have been and are very helpful to many people. But, to be selfish here, I look forward to getting back to the regularly scheduled program :)
Great to see this progress! Then, it will all go down on whether you will be able to troubleshoot it halfway to Galapagos in a 3 day dead calm with 60degC sunshine and when your watermaker should work full speed but something wrong with the System... Looking forward to sea trials!
You need to find James and Plukkey! Show off your installation!
Great episode! Lots of information in this one! Nice job on all that wiring! Hope you git lots of wiring layout drawings hehe looks like a serious electrical system! Might want to get more engine belts!! Nice job and I do think capt oso could have dines a great job on that ot 4 cabling :) hehe
I sure would recommend carrying a couple of extra drive belts. I would think that that load will shorten belt life considerably.
Your moment with Captain Oso was hysterical…had me ROTFL.
Fun on the water is directly proportionate to how close I am to it!
ya buddy a video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i been lost with you two hahaha
Very detailed video, love the wide alternator belt..certainly would carry 2 spares. Complex Alternator regulator with 50 wires ? would carry one spare one, Nice wiring job, certainly the Cable company loves you guys. If you do not have that already, I would install a separate temp sensor with temp gauge for the a) Batt compartment b) Alternator ...... Nice job, cheers from Sechelt, BC, Canada
I noticed that the disconnect at the alternator is directly inline with the belt. If the belt should let go, there is the possibility it could take out the switch, and cables. Perhaps a guard of some sort might be prudent, if you can’t relocate the switch.
Awesome videos, content and production.
Congratulation guys! This is going to be a King Kong improvement in the quality of your daily life aboard when off-grid. Wishing you all the best on the next phase of your journey….