Building our Electrical System | S06E20
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We bought Atticus II because we knew she’d be a great platform to explore the world by sailboat, but from the very beginning we knew we were going to have to upgrade several components of our electrical system to live self-sufficiently at anchor, off -grid, and sailing offshore. So over the course of the next few videos, we will be doing an exhaustive DEEP DIVE into our journey of building our dream electrical system from the ground up.
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You are doing 20 years of maintenance and updates all at one time. Great channel!
One thing I like on your channel: When I’m watching RAN or UMA, I’m like: ”Wow those guys are genious, I could never do that by myself”. But when I’m watching your channel, I’m like: ”Wow, they did that pretty good, maybe I should try too”. Thank you for being inspiration. 👍
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I only watch this station occasionally but didn't you guys just spend near a quarter million dollars on a new boat? now you're rebuilding the electrical system? Yikes!
Can't wait for the up coming episodes.
I watch both of them , they are the best 👍👍👍👍
Great video... May want to recalculate adding a child or two.
Sounds like a great challenge. Looking forward to more.
Sounds like you’re headed to the future of electrical power for boating 👍 yesireebob
Great topic, you’ve done your homework and the information you’ve shared is very useful and much appreciated, thank you for sharing and may your needs be met when needed, take care safe travels and looking forward to your next episode…
Jordan, as a pilot redundancy is your friend, I see many similar comparisons between flying and sailing. Having a generator may be extra weight and the need for more space but when you are at 30 west crossing the Atlantic and the main engine won’t start and you haven’t seen the sun in 5 days you may wish you had the back up generator or in addition some wind turbine to get you through. Safety first!
That was my take away as well. Why would you have redundancy on your boat? So you can self rescue if everything starts going south. One thrown rod when your 1000 miles from help means everything that runs on batteries will be dead before long.
I can't wait to see this system get installed.
Looking forward to this series. Atticus II is such a beautiful boat, she deserves the best systems... and so do you guys.
great presentation as always, I cant wait to see the project in all its glory.
Outstanding Jordan. I love this one and am learning a ton. Thanks.
So freakin’ educational. Thanks for the perfect detailed overview. Looking forward to next week!
Great job providing this information.
Love the picture of getting into the refrigerator!
Deep dive into electrical!! Awesome sounds great! Looking forward to it! Go A2 crew go!
Wow I can’t believe I sat through a vid on electric systems and came out the other end thoroughly entertained.and informed. Now that’s a skill Jordan👍
I love those computer stands keeping your back straight can help when editing all day for sure! Keep up the great work guys!
Fantastic episode this week, and a great explanation of how much power you use and how you will deal with it. Basically you’re setting up a hybrid power system which uses the engine as a generator to top things up when you have less solar and more cloudy days. Brilliant idea.
You guys are great. Thanks for working so hard to take us along on your journey!
I'm not a sailor, don't know cra@ about electricity, never even been on a cruising sailboat... yet you held my attention for 24 minutes. Good job.
Can we a get 30 minutes of just sailing? It makes me sleepy and it's comforting.
The knowledge that you have acquired (and shared!) is astounding. You are a saint and a scholar!
This is going to be fun to watch. Really looking forward to it and seeing you at the show. Keep safe.
Yup, can't wait to see next week video for sure. Good luck you two. You will be teaching the audience a huge learning curve that we all have. Thank you.
This is the only show I "like" before I watch! Never, have I regretted it! Att II is cool and I like the little guy but you two are the best. I'm off to find the "free lunch"!
Wow, exciting and electrifying times ahead! Much the same considerations for the RV world as well or off grid living.
Jordan have you considered changing your 12vdc system over to 48 vdc with the loads you have a lot of savings could be in the wire size and weight. Rick Moore just changed his boat over to 48vdc for a lot of savings.
Very cool, can’t wait to see all the electrical
Very nice. Looking forward to seeing you all complete this endeavor 😎
This is what I have been waiting for!
Looking forward to seeing your progress as you carry out the electrical upgrade.
Great decision on the Lithionics batteries! Absolutely the best in this category!
Thank you for the education. Thank you for everything you do.
Fascinating!
Jordan, you are doing it right. Doing your research and doing it right under worse case scenarios. I applaud you.
Capt K
I'm really looking forward to the electronic upgrade series, I find electricity very scary, but will also have to learn to fix up my own boat. For the time being, I have been enjoying your journey in the broadest sense of the word for years. Keep it up and stay healthy
Great presentation and how you're breaking down each phase of the upgrade!
Well done informative presentation on the pros of having a nice bank of lithium batteries (system) in a blue water sail boat. I like Jordans balance view of their adventure so far. Old saying: "You can't appreciate the peaks until you've been in the valleys".
Wow, exciting watching you guys upgrade.
Jordan. Super video. I like your simple explanations to a complex system.
Great info on your upcoming electrical upgrade. Looking forward to the project. Cheers 🍻
Looking forward to more, please keep innovating, great !
I am always impressed with the quality of information you receive from viewers who know the technical upgrade issues you will be dealing with. Particularly with a subject like installing a new highly integrated AC/DC system. Tip O The Hat to the viewers.
Very nice. But we're really here for Oso! 😎
Bro! Jordan explained all this ! And i bet that most of us understood .. my professors know nothing about how to make a person understand something
I know these videos have a time lag, We cruise on our Oyster 485 and require about 50 percent more energy per day than your estimate, please consider a generator. If we "camp" our solar panels keep up, but if we live at anchor for days or weeks and make water the genset runs about 30-45 minutes per day. Our main engine is a Saber / Perkins with one Balmar 140 amp alternator and 70 amp for charging the cranking batteries.Our genset is an onan 9k, the main engine burns 1.3 g p h at 1800 rpm or 1 g p h at the 1200 rpms required to get amps out of the alternator. the genset burns 2 liter per hour and you don't put hours on the main engine.
If you consider a generator to be so important, give them the $25,000 to buy it. Their system sounds fine and way more affordable. My 1986 Yanmar runs perfectly with over 8000 hrs while powering a 120 amp Balmar when needed
@@tropicalsailor2908 if you look down in the comments SV Nepenthes' price was over 40,000 dollars
@@charonstyxferryman exactly and saver
It is so exciting all of the plans you have to upgrade not only the electrical system on Attics 2 but all of your other planned projects . I am excited for you both and look forward to each episode …..Best wishes ….Kevin ..New Zealand 🌷🌷🌷🌷
Another great video guys! Keep up the amazing work and I’m looking forward to the new sailing adventure with the new boat.
“Onboard life style” have an amazing electrical system. They also do an amazing job at explaining how they set it up.
The easiest way to reduce power consumption, is to conserve usage.
a wind turbine is recommended too, and a honda inverter 2000 will be great for backup/emergency
Thank you for this video. I didn't have a Nigel Calder to consult with, but thanks to CZcams I was able to implement most of these improvements to my Pearson 303.😅😅
Excellent presentation and explanation of where you are going with your electrical. I am looking forward to your new project. Thanks, J.R.
Good episode, looking forward to the next one.
Great show...very well explained!
Quite a dissertation on a sailboat electric system. Very impressed with your knowledge
This episode recharged my batts! Peace and ohm!
Thank youu for this very important and valuable pcs of electrical information.
Hi Jordan, nice video. Did you look a re-gen propeller for charging your battery when you sail. Enjoy you electrical refit. Cheers
Working on the same sort of upgrade on our PSC 34. Very educational. Recently looked at Episode 03, you have come a long way since then. All the hard work is paying off.
Most Excellent presentation. Howard Cosell was the only other man who impressed me with his ability to speak at length with out the usual "ah, umm, so, and uh, and so on. Well done!
@@pauleohl Something tells me YOU hated Monday Night Football in it's "Heyday" with Dandy Don!
Really interesting explanation, looking forward to see progress
This is so interesting and exciting!!
Oh Ya can't wait to see the whole story!
Susan & Tony here, great presentation!
You guys are so good at this format, this is going to be great! 👍
That's a big damn alternator. I would still consider something like one of the "suitcase" portable generators for some backup capacity.
Watched my favorite sailing couple again from long hiatus and found that your moving on from Atticus 1. Sad and happy at the same time.
Good Luck with your electrical journey ... it's a mine field !! Stay Safe & Fair Winds !!
Hi Jordan, My name is Dino, I had the privilege of meeting your parents at a restaurant last night. I live in MD but I have been traveling to Florida for 27 years. I see this (Big Guy) and he looked so familiar and then I looked at his wife and it all clicked. About a week ago I watched the episode with your parents on it. I asked them if their son was a boater? Great people!
Wow...so much to know but I'm sure once you're into it it won't feel so overwhelming! Good luck✌💜
Can't wait to see the final product
I really appreciate the thought and planning you both have put into electrifying your home. This electrical journey is going to be fun. Looking forward to this adventure. As always thanks, have fun and be safe.
hey guys another great video my suggestion for alternator would be 2 160amp alternators to meet your charge requirements, this gives you inbuilt redundancy because if you have an alternator failure you only lose half your capacity, bearing in mind a 3oo plus amp alternator is not going to be quickly replaceable remotely.
Oh really enjoyed that! Jordan Was great at explaining the new system, As well as entertaining.
Just animated enough to visually hold the interest and not distract from the message it’s perfect
It is easy to be confused when dealing with electric power. There is a lot to understand. We went a little more simplified on our solar/battery system for our RV. I installed two 100 ah battleborn lithium batteries and a 1000 watt inverter. I also ran a couple dedicated ac plug ins from the inverter. The other change I had to make was our RV converter was swapped out for one that is compatible with lithium. We don't try to run everything off this system. While boondocking we can watch a little tv and a few other things and the solar (200 watt ) keeps us going just fine. We also have a 2200 watt generator for backup on cloudy days. Coffee is made the old fashioned way on the stove. Fridge runs on propane as well as the hot water heater. Thanks for this video. You cover the subject well as usual. Could have used you in our mould shop at the glass factory back in the day!
I Hope to see you at the show. I'll be there on Friday!
This episode came out at the perfect time! Pure Providence. I'm currently planning/rigging up an off-grid system of Solar/LP for the 5th wheel that we are moving onto the new to us farm and you've passed along some invaluable and very useful information to help in that process. You guys always bring a smile to my face and I'm already looking forward to next Saturday morning. Thanks again for sharing your lives with all of us strangers.
There's a solar advantage with a 5th wheel. You can move the solar panel point and tilt angles to follow the sun as the earth rotates durning the day and as the days get shorter and the sun gets lower in the south with the seasons changes.
@@jhill4071 Thanks for the good advice. I was thinking it would be better to keep the panels mobile rather than mounting to the roof, especially since we only get about 8 hours of good light during the middle of winter. Was also planning on finding a good used windmill to run the well pump rather than using electric. Pumping water from 200' below up a 2" pipe requires quite a bit more amps than a typical 12 volt water pump in an RV or in a boat.
Sounds like a plan! Go. Atticus!
This was a awesome video! Good info. Look fwd to seeing you guys at the Annapolis boat show.
Look forward to the new electrical system 😀 🙌.
Thumbs UP !!! Another great video …
Great you are doing a thorough job and minimising the risk of fire. I think RAN Sailing covered that well.
So interesting-I learned so much. This is one of my favorite videos. Did miss Oso dog though.
We remember you guys from Bocas Del Toro! ❤️🇵🇦
Happy weekend!
Don't forget: When Starlink internet service becomes available for marine applications, you'll be dropping your cell booster and installing a (power sucking) satellite internet terminal!!! :)
Very American...North American, of you...110v - 120v/60hz...hope you think about transformers because the rest of the world uses 220v and 250v...50hz...just something to ponder guys...you have a lot on your plate and seem to have a very good company helping you. True, much of the appliances you take will be 110/60... Plugging in at a marina on the PAC side will prove an issue sometimes. As always, Jordan..have a backup bud!
I have a suggestion if you're interested. Water turbine. Charge the batteries while under sail or anchoring in a current.
Wow! This was a really informative 24 minute soliloquy that should be of interest to every sailor! I guess if I did what you are doing, I could stop buying so many extension cords to try to extend my cruising distance from the dock!
A couple of points. You’re estimates for energy consumption are almost certainly wrong. But that’s ok because it gives you a starting point to work from. It also makes you think about the electrical issues you’ll face. The design process then should be about the physical limits of the space you have (how much solar can realistically fit, physical space for batteries, what load can your engine push). Then it comes down to the ratio of solar to batteries and alternator. You also need to factor in the relative reliability of you’re energy sources. So solar, battery, alternator from most to least. I would also get out of the 12v mindset. 12v isn’t the best when the loads go up. It’s because of i^2r losses in cables and if terminals get corroded cause fires. If you can reduce the current by upping the voltage the risk is quickly reduced (that i^2 thing). It’s why 24, and even 48 volt batteries systems are safer from a fire perspective. General rule of thumb is when in doubt go bigger with the batteries. You’ll last longer on cloudy days and will have a longer life due to lower effective cycles.
It's definitely a complicated planning process. I agree with the points that James Boulton makes. Never hurts to have a few more batteries than you think you will need after doing your calculations. Higher voltage is more efficient when traveling through long wire runs but all the devices run on 12 volt so you have to step that 24 or 48 volts down to the 12 volts and that uses power and is one more item in the chain of items to fail. Also, I believe 24v and 48v alternators are CRAZY expensive. My concern is your dependency on the motor in your boat. I don't recall how many hours are on it or what HP and brand but I'd want a new or lower hour motor on my boat from the get go if my time line was 10 yrs of usage. With an older motor, I'd want the extra generator for peace of mind for inconvenient time when your engine quits. I see Yanmar makes a small diesel "portable" generator, 2000 watts for about $5k that weighs a bit over 100 lbs. A Honda 2200i gas generator is the no brainer re: cost and dependability BUT it's a different fuel type than your sailboat engine and carrying fuel for it rules it out. The weight of fuel and generator is more than the weight of the Yanmar diesel portable generator. Like everything with a boat, you have to make compromises and understand what things are most important to you. Fortunately, you've lived the bare bones lifestyle for 7 yrs and were able to find joy during that time. So you know you can tough out a few days without power or a week if necessary and you'll be fine.
You sir, sound and think like an engineer... An optimization process...
Very cool. Our Irwin is completely gutted, and this subject just came up. It can be a pia to figure out. and,, like you, we are starting over. This will be a awesome series. Can't wait to see which way you guys are going in this..
Really good vidéo ! So much information that are really pertinent!
This channel is just so informative
Great vid!!
Jordan, that was the best electrical review ever! Very clear and logical! You are on the right track by covering your max possible load survey. Well done!
Something to consider: sun shade in your aft area will significantly reduce the need for cooling. Just added solar with a couple of inches of gap on the underside will provide massive cooling from direct sun
Awesome episode
I never considered a boat with all the comforts of home. But, I beleive you may do just that. ALL SUCCESS TO YOU BOTH!
Much love. Yall are great
Wooohoooo for electric! We're just at the start of our journey but will also be DIYing an electric system :)
Wish I could be with you at Annapolis! This past June my wife, Sharon, and I spent a few days staying at the Annapolis Inn . We celebrated my 80 th birthday by sailing on the “Woodwind” followed by dinner at the yacht club.
I was reluctant to book the sail, thinking it would just be another tourist event… Was I wrong! We motored pst the moorings and set all sails and sailed out beyond the bay bridge! We reached a recorded 9 knots with the gunnel awash and all in our party cheering! It was the best 80th I could dream of! ( even the man overboard drill in effort to rescue my hat!)