I don't know the answer to that. It appears the bearing noise from the balance shafts is a generic fault, that said, oil dilution is not going to help the situation. What were JLR thinking of when they decided to cage a bearing in plastic? DPF? I would imagine it can be coded out, but not a route I would choose to go personally.
The kits used belonged to my customer so I can only post similar items I've located on the net: 1, BALANCE SHAFT/OIL SEAL APPLICATOR www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203997172510?hash=item2f7f2dd31e:g:N0gAAOSweF9ivafS&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0FDRBXYaaKVzEPXtHGX0qzHQlOAe%2FKKQS4BL9VLYmZUROAtboACHSemspwkOZS3cyj%2FaYz6uzW%2BJjwxW6tKp6Zv%2BdgbpPD4EvzZNhaouRxAeBVpAeiKyLR5L3jnqPKJbzvq2gutApQ7JE4NTcccTaTd0rBTqAkSFAka9UUy2u8lf3SBk9sp0WQLpXiYSDbzpCds%2Bm3hCwLZPizDA9myPpQHw8sVthetArolF03A3eZoPqf7QKqTcvn%2F72gOavXQNVOUBgAKTiTtTNKl%2Fnl8b%2Ftc%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8ziwo7xYQ 2, LASER TIMING KIT www.mm-4x4.com/timing-tool-kit---20-diesel-ingenium-aj200-engine-9959-p.asp
I own f pace 2016 2.0 diesel with 70K miles ,recently had to rebuild my engine due to compression lost in cylinder 4 . We have used only Genuine Jaguar parts for rebuild ... I was thinking about resleeve only one cylinder the worn one ,but local engine shop suggested to do all 4 new sleeves . Brand new oil pump ,new big end bearings ,brand new STD pistons ,everything was done the way jaguar manual written by with special tools for balance shaft timing so as lower&upper timing chain set up. Have spent well over 3K on parts alone . The outcome engine was put in back in the car and less than 500 miles engine is full of metal shavings !!! Very disappointing and expensive experience to me ... My local engineering shop cant explain the issue ... I would like to ask everyone of you folks who has similar issue what is the solution?? Maybe sleeves need to be heat treated ,or used special kind of metal like hardox? Any suggestions are welcome. Greetings from Ireland .
More than a little inconsiderate of the company to not flush the swarf THEY created within your engine, but always a good idea to flush/blow compressed air through just to be sure. I feel your pain though, how terrible to put in all that work for nothing. This engine (or the DPF re-gen protocol) is very poor ill thought out idea and for these engines to fail after such a short period of time/mileage due to oil dilution is quite disgusting. I'm sure Jaguar will say the recommend only to buy if you do high mileage, but that's not good enough in my humble opinion.
"everything was done the way jaguar manual". How is that possible when the manual doesn't include a rebuild process? You were badly advised at the outset or chose to take a risk. Either way this is your problem.
in the 90's I had serveral PSA 1.9 td PSA engines that ran reliably into the 100's of thousands of miles . The same can be said for the 2.0 HDi. A competitor had VW 1.9 Tdi's which likewise just ran. Another company I knew of had Toyota HiAce vans with the D4D engine in them . These vans racked up stella mileages , they never stopped!! fueling and servicing only . The owner would only have these vans.... What has gone wrong ??? JLR engines are just crap. BMW snapping and jumping chains. Vauxhall the same . Guides made out of cheese.. Chains in a place where it is a complete strip down...AND they have become a service part ! What happened to Duplex chains and tensioners with a toothed sprocket bathed in oil that lasted the life of the vehicle ? The caliber of the engineers must be called into question because failures of this kind can no longer be tollerated on a " prestige vehicle "...Their trade in value is almost nothing. would these companies be happy if they were making aircraft components and flying over the Atlantic.? Next they will be fitting wet belts to them. ...and none of this came to light in extensive testing ? Oh yes but by then the warranty would have expired......
Keep the head up lad👍👍👍
Wow. So much
Are there any aftermarket parts for more durable timing chains or kits which do not use plastic?
Land rover have really gone backwards in the engine department in the last decade.
Indeed....Leaving customer to pick up a substantial repair bill too.
@@deuceelec the limited warranty is killing sales , but if they had a Kia warranty it would wipe out the company.
Hi, thanks for the vid. Does the oil dilution cause the balance shaft bearing issue? Can the DPF be coded out?
I don't know the answer to that. It appears the bearing noise from the balance shafts is a generic fault, that said, oil dilution is not going to help the situation. What were JLR thinking of when they decided to cage a bearing in plastic? DPF? I would imagine it can be coded out, but not a route I would choose to go personally.
Why do they use plastic parts in an engine?????
The kits used belonged to my customer so I can only post similar items I've located on the net:
1, BALANCE SHAFT/OIL SEAL APPLICATOR
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203997172510?hash=item2f7f2dd31e:g:N0gAAOSweF9ivafS&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0FDRBXYaaKVzEPXtHGX0qzHQlOAe%2FKKQS4BL9VLYmZUROAtboACHSemspwkOZS3cyj%2FaYz6uzW%2BJjwxW6tKp6Zv%2BdgbpPD4EvzZNhaouRxAeBVpAeiKyLR5L3jnqPKJbzvq2gutApQ7JE4NTcccTaTd0rBTqAkSFAka9UUy2u8lf3SBk9sp0WQLpXiYSDbzpCds%2Bm3hCwLZPizDA9myPpQHw8sVthetArolF03A3eZoPqf7QKqTcvn%2F72gOavXQNVOUBgAKTiTtTNKl%2Fnl8b%2Ftc%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8ziwo7xYQ
2, LASER TIMING KIT
www.mm-4x4.com/timing-tool-kit---20-diesel-ingenium-aj200-engine-9959-p.asp
is this same tool with petrol?
I own f pace 2016 2.0 diesel with 70K miles ,recently had to rebuild my engine due to compression lost in cylinder 4 .
We have used only Genuine Jaguar parts for rebuild ...
I was thinking about resleeve only one cylinder the worn one ,but local engine shop suggested to do all 4 new sleeves .
Brand new oil pump ,new big end bearings ,brand new STD pistons ,everything was done the way jaguar manual written by with special tools for balance shaft timing so as lower&upper timing chain set up.
Have spent well over 3K on parts alone .
The outcome engine was put in back in the car and less than 500 miles engine is full of metal shavings !!!
Very disappointing and expensive experience to me ...
My local engineering shop cant explain the issue ...
I would like to ask everyone of you folks who has similar issue what is the solution??
Maybe sleeves need to be heat treated ,or used special kind of metal like hardox?
Any suggestions are welcome.
Greetings from Ireland .
More than a little inconsiderate of the company to not flush the swarf THEY created within your engine, but always a good idea to flush/blow compressed air through just to be sure. I feel your pain though, how terrible to put in all that work for nothing. This engine (or the DPF re-gen protocol) is very poor ill thought out idea and for these engines to fail after such a short period of time/mileage due to oil dilution is quite disgusting. I'm sure Jaguar will say the recommend only to buy if you do high mileage, but that's not good enough in my humble opinion.
"everything was done the way jaguar manual". How is that possible when the manual doesn't include a rebuild process? You were badly advised at the outset or chose to take a risk. Either way this is your problem.
@@deuceelec "THEY created within your engine". Prove it rather than make ignorant assumptions.
@@byteme9718 czcams.com/video/_lqJKQJ_xtY/video.html Watch the attached, then go and bother someone else with your sarcastic remarks
in the 90's I had serveral PSA 1.9 td PSA engines that ran reliably into the 100's of thousands of miles . The same can be said for the 2.0 HDi. A competitor had VW 1.9 Tdi's which likewise just ran. Another company I knew of had Toyota HiAce vans with the D4D engine in them . These vans racked up stella mileages , they never stopped!! fueling and servicing only . The owner would only have these vans....
What has gone wrong ??? JLR engines are just crap. BMW snapping and jumping chains. Vauxhall the same . Guides made out of cheese.. Chains in a place where it is a complete strip down...AND they have become a service part ! What happened to Duplex chains and tensioners with a toothed sprocket bathed in oil that lasted the life of the vehicle ? The caliber of the engineers must be called into question because failures of this kind can no longer be tollerated on a " prestige vehicle "...Their trade in value is almost nothing. would these companies be happy if they were making aircraft components and flying over the Atlantic.? Next they will be fitting wet belts to them. ...and none of this came to light in extensive testing ? Oh yes but by then the warranty would have expired......
Good ole Land Rover disgraceful