Guns and Gear Used with Special Operations Vets "Coch," Dave, Dorr, and "Dutch"
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Special Operations Vets "Coch," Dave, Dorr, and "Dutch" talk about the guns and gear they used during their careers.
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WOW!
I love how Dorr was hella quick to Coch's defense on the angled grip.
Those SEALS are thick as theives
But he was right some people become overly obsessed with cloning not understanding certain thing can’t be used on their weapons because of restrictions in certain states
I like how dorr came to coch's aid with the miscommunication between he and dutch on the 308. "You're my boy coch!" 😂
Love the longer format, cheers boys
I started out inn 1966 with the M-14. On deployment, we got M-16s & 1911A1s. Eventually I went to another unit and had a XM177E2. Loved it and got my hands on a M-79. Had a great time. Became an instructor on the M-60 much later in my career. Enjoyed having my uncle pay for my ammo. After I retired, I spent 30+ more years as a cop. Take care guys love your shows.
You all are the best. I served navy 1980 1997 . Team 3
How do you not want to drink a beer with Coch!!!
I picture Dutch shooting a M60 with a big cigar hanging out of his mouth
Gay. Picturing dudes…gay.
That's a lot of bad assed heroes in one place. Thanks for the awesome content guys!
I can't tell you how it felt to hear "Kitty Hawk" mentioned in this video. My dad served on that ship in Vietnam and for several years after. He died when I was a kid and it felt like he walked in the room when I heard this boat mentioned! Thank you guys! Thank you DUTCH!
This is definitely one of the most interesting gun channels on you tube. It’s not easy to come up with original content, with new and entertaining ways to present information yet the guys at T/H manage to do it time after time. The depth of practical knowledge is amazing without being too overt. Brilliant.
Agreed, I look forward to seeing a notification with a new Coch and Dorr video
I could listen to these guys for hours on end.
Who needs sleep anyway.......
Yesterday you brought us on “the patio “ with D & C and today it’s on “the backyard bench” with triple D’s & C !
Special thanks to Dorr for helping the old guys with their weapons memory.
I always enjoy these sessions.
I’m still waiting for Wilson to make an appearance?
As always stay safe and healthy guys.
Ron
Ps; I can say the old guys because I’m older than all of them!
As for people sleeping through war, I grew up 50 yds away from a major rail line, two clock away from where it met an intersection. In other words, every train, multiple times a day traveling at high speeds, with 200+ cars vibrating every wall in my house blaring the horn for 1 minute straight. When we moved to that place, I feel like I didn’t sleep for 1 month. After that, slept like a baby for the following 5 years. Never noticed them. Been 20 years since I lived there and for some reason, to do this day, I hear a train horn and i get mad.
Dorr that was so nice of you to lend Dave your UDT shorts
Thank you all for serving and protecting our country! I thoroughly enjoy listening to your experiences in the US military! Keep it coming I can’t get enough!
About to finish my 20yrs in the AF. I’m knew to the Hive and want to let you guys know this grey beard talk is legendary. Dorr I know you’re my age. Just saying, all you need is camp fire and tell “locker room” sorties ( stories) and it’s great. Keep it up/ just got a cap from you guys and hope you’re all in SoCal soon
Somethings funky with the sound. Sounds warbly and modulated. Noticed this on the last few videos.
Yeah, sound like they forgot to remove a sound track
Yeah it’s super distracting
Cool to see the different in military cultures play out in their personalities and answers. Love this long form content.
Driver, and loder carried the grease gun. I was a 19E, and 19K. Because they would be used on the LP/ OP for you Defense positions.
Gentlemen, thank you for making this video. I was on active duty with the Army from 75 to 96, but I never heard a shot fired in anger, and then in civil service with the Army from 97 to 2019. I learned a lot from this video that I did not know. Your conversation about the different types of bullets and twist rates in the older guns was extremely informative. I have a little research project going and your information just gave me a completely new area that I will need to checkout. Again, thank you I sincerely appreciate the information.
Fun video boys. I enlisted in the Army as an 11B in 1997. M16A2 during basic, AIT and then when with 2nd ID in Korea. Only Squad and Team leaders had the M4A1. Team leader and up got PVS7-D Nods as well. Our company still had the M60 when i got there, but got the M250B before I left. I was also a SAW gunner and then grenadier (M16A2 with M203) before I PCSed. Then I went to Bragg and was amazed that everyone got a flat top M4, PVS14 nods as well as PEQ2. Never had to carry an M9 as that was only the M60 / M240B gunner. I did get stuck carrying a dragon while with 2nd ID.
I joined in '93. We had FN M16A2s in OSUT at Benning in 1994, already beat to hell.
My first unit had M16A1s with A2 furniture. M249E2s, M60s, and we had M14s for ceremonies (TOG).
I did a year in the line then went to Recon Platoon, where we had M16A1s, M21s, and M24s, as well as a bunch of various AKs from different nations. We did OPFOR Augmentee to JRTC multiple times per year. Right before I left, we turned in our beloved M16A1s and got brand new M16A2s.
Went to 2nd ID, 1-506th in Korea in Feb 1996.
In Korea, we had National Match M14s in Recon, M24s for Sniper Squad, M16A2s, and M16A2/M203s in the Recon Teams.
In the line, there were PAQ-4Cs with brackets for the FSB on M16A2s, and PVS-7s for key leaders, gunners, and AGs.
Went to Corps LRS at Ft. Lewis after that, M16A2s, got deactivated, went to 25th ID 1st Bde, and drew out brand new M4s in fall of 1997.
We went to Panama with 2/75 Nov '97, and they all had M4A1s with KAC RIS, Para SAWs with little rail sections mounted to the standard handguards, ACOGs on M240s, Aimpoint Comp Ms on SAWs, Aimpoints on M4A1s, and PAQ-4Cs.
They had London Bridges assault packs and LC-2 LCE. Grenadiers had TLBVs with 40mm pouches.
I went to SFAS after that in March '98, then got attached to 1st SFG awaiting Q.
In 1st Group, I had an M4A1 with KAC QD Suppressor. SOPMOD was trickling into SF at the time, so some ODAs still had M4 dual shield HGs, while others installed their RISs and all the accessories, including that POS Reflex sight.
what an amazing channel & video ...
thank you so much for this guys !
& THANK YOU for your service to this great country .
Love their stories. Wealth of experience and life changing events in the history of these guys. Respect!
Of course, Dutch started out in a tank. He's built like one. Great video guys!
Definitely need more conversations like this. Its awesome to get these guys perspectives on what actually works. great convo!
For the Ranger. I was a GMG 80-84. And both ships ammo ship and sub tender we had 870s M14s M60s 45s and M79. For guarding nukes port security etc.
War room is awesome, I joined and have not regretted it.
Thanks for your service fellas glad you lived through it all. Be Safe.
Enjoyed this one guys. I wish you would have touched on 300blk. My understanding is when it first hit the teams there were reliability issues but they have since been ironed out. I guess it’s being used with great success these days.
The .300blk was a derivative of the ..300 whisper which was designed specifically for the Unit. They were designed for their quietness with suppressed guns mostly for 100 yards and in & CQB.
Thank you guys, I was in a SOW unit for 3 years and in a fighter wing for 7. 1990-2000 I always appreciate other forces, because I was In the Air Force and they never let me carry a gun but just to qualify. I was an avionics troop. Huey N1H1, H60 Blackhawk, CH53, C130 and then the F-16.
Love listening to the stories of the guys like this. Great content, keep up the good work. Unfortunately I'm just a commoner that can't afford the war room but I will keep watching anyways.
95 SOPMOD,
SUA SPONTE
RANGERS LEAD THE WAY
1ST PLT 1SQD A TEAM RSOV TEAM
I could seriously listen to you guys talk for hours. I'm a firearms nerd and this
sh!t is fascinating. Keep up the good fight and for the Seals keep balancing those beach balls. -God bless
Love the old pictures. So cool to here these stories. Thank you for your service
You guys are awesome, thanks for your service and keep the videos coming.
iv been really liking the episodes u guys have been putting out the last few weeks
Truly appreciate the insight and knowledge y'all share for the benefit of anyone willing to shut up long enough to learn.
"German Desert Eagle" is the best nickname for the Mark 23.
Served With The One Of The Greatest Mr. Lamb In Somalia & Back The We Didn’t Have The Best Of The Best HK-416 To The Front. Now From Kuwait To The Highway Of Death To Afghanistan & Anywhere We Went On All 7 Continents Of The World Our Careers ( 32 + For Myself) Honor & A Privilege Throughout The Years. I Would Do It ALL Over Again. Regardless Army Ranger Sniper To Tier 1 JSOC I’m Glad Its In My Mirrors Now.
I was hoping to hear Coch mention the Stoner.
BEST Video yet! Thanks guys!
This was awesome. I was an infantry marine from 2006-2011 and always been a military history nerd especially gwot and post Vietnam stuff. this video answered so many questions I’ve wondered. Thanks so much guys!
Some of the coolest info exhchange I’ve heard. Super fascinating to hear the theory’s and learning that went on with in the early days. And a comparison between the two
You guys are to funny. Luv'd hearing the evolution of your eras. During Nam if you weren't team guys we saw some A1s but otherwise M14 or shotguns. Side arms were 1911 unless you had your own revolver. Saw some CAR16s with SF guys. River Boats had 60s and some 30 cals and some M16 if I remember correctly, but since I was a diver assigned to an MSO I only saw M14 , shotgun, and 45. The ship had a 50mm on the bow lol. A shotgun would do wonders to a sanpan hull. Man did things change listening to you guys😎
Great video loved the banter and knowledge!
Very Cool. Nice break from the new war.
Yes gun talk
Always nice talking about the good old days, I remember the first surefire weapon lights that came about to us conventional forces we thought they were so bright and now days we’d scoff at them.
Great stories and info, thanks Gents!
great video!!! love listening to the wealth of knowledge from these guys!!!
Absolutely brilliant, great content and great personalities
Another good one thanks guys!
Eyy yall did the ep where I was hoping the navy SOF and Army SOF talk about guns and gear. Awesome vid! With T1 and T2 perspectives, even if the T2 guys are a little younger too lol
I am curious to if it was only back then that Coch could buy an m1a and use it overseas for work. Don't they prohibit deploying with personally owned guns now? If so, when did they start prohibiting it, how did ya'll get to bring them and use them back then, and was it solely just a Navy SOF thing?
A video with a Ranger, two SEALs and a Delta.
I thought it would be more chaotic
Tankers shoot bigger loads. I was a tanker in Germany in the 90's on the M1A1. Personal weapon was a M9 with the shoulder holster. 120mm main gun, M2 .50 BMG for the TC, M240 for the Loader, and M240 Coaxial machine gun. There was a M16A2 in the loaders station used for security LP/OP. The Army was a professional force in the early 90's. We did have to learn infantry tactics because of the peace keeping BS in The Former Yugoslavia. Great video fellas.
Great idea for a video and great group of guys
Great conversation...
Great information thanks.
True statement… we shot what we brought. I learned more after I was discharged regarding ballistics and how it all works. Semper Fi boys, keep it going.
Damn that hour flew by quick! Great content fellas 👍🏻👍🏻
Loved this episode!
Thanks Coch, Dave, Dorr and Dutch! :) :us
Being a Roof Rat on the Kitty Hawk y’all’s comments on Ship life was very funny. I loved the smell and taste of jet fuel so much I became a Aircraft Mechanic. I’ve been retired 3 years now and I go get a fix of jet exhaust every now and then to keep the withdrawal in control.
The 1911 that I had in Basic, you could almost field strip it by shaking very hard.
Amazing content, thanks
Brilliant
We were running the Saw in 1991 in Guam and K bay, after coming back from Iraq.
Very interesting thanks guys
0:23 pistol grip where the stock should be - got it!
Great content
Can't wait till this gets relabeled as "An Hour of Ex Special Forces rambling to fall asleep to"
Then don’t watch.
@@SaundersE5 It was a compliment to the video and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It was meant at a rib to the algorithm that makes those videos shoot to the top. But hey, take my comment as a negative and be mad bro.
Awesome content.......imagine the cool gear ya'll could've had if you had gun nerds instead of committee's help you select it. That's what is so cool about looking back like this. If only we used history for a reference point more often right? Thank's again Gent's. Great stuff indeed..........
Just one of the most informative and funniest videos you guys have made 😂
love it
You are the best group of people for realizing that only the laws of physics are real
Mossberg 500 and Beretta M9 at RTC Great Lakes and then the M16A2 and M9 at ECS in Gulfport, Mississippi
Great video
Fun and interesting
Great vid
I ran the jet shop on the America, so I'm wondering if Dutch was with us in '94. Very impressive seeing those Rangers practicing tactics around the hangar bay. Of course, I kept my shop bubbas busy helping the helo guys. NSDQ. Perhaps the best short cruise I ever went on.
20 years active Navy - managed to avoid both carriers and Norfolk.
Dorr: "This was the Abrams?"
Dutch: "...no."
Come on, haven't you made the poor guy feel old enough 😂
30:32 It's true. I've experienced it. If you sleep through the sound of dogs, motorcycles, and roosters... Your body has trained itself to not be bothered by those sounds while you sleep. Sometimes it's silence that wakes you up.
There was a gas check collar in the 60 could be put in backwards and you got a single shot sniper 60
'93 in the Army was 14.5 A2 Colts, Beretta or 1911 depending on what you were doing. I got a Block 1 somewhere in '98.
Fuck I miss having similar convo with my guys. One crappy part of being retired now
When you realize you may have " met" one of these guys while playing the delta force /blackhawk down pc games when having seal team insertions and coop missions...
You can still get Leatherwood optics with the art system from hi-lux . They have the m1000 and m1200 for pretty affordable. $500 and $600 msrp.
Coch’s backyard looks like Tiki heaven
Interesting topic. Tell us more about MP5's used in deployment, especially those dope MP5SD.
47:40 is the way to our hearts
I was shocked to hear that SEALS don't have a ballistics training course or something.
I'm glad the AR ban had a sunset. Over the last 20 odd years I have tested and researched so much so I knew exactly what to use for various senarios.
Really enjoyed this one. Lets get a tattoo breakdown video
Does Dave get more buff every video? Whatcha feeding this man... 😅
Love to see this type of content. Ever thought of collabing with Karl and Tactical Rifleman team and doing a vid?
What is the L2RP round you guys were talking about that you used in MK12’s? I’m searching for it and can’t find it anywhere :/
Great video makes me think of some of the legends surrounding the Afghanistan and Iraq wars like the Museum of Baghdad and the giant of Kandahar.
TY T.H
I always carried 2 mags of black tip for my M14.
Hey, for all you army guys, and especially Unit guys, support Larry Vickers who just got convicted of a felony by the ATF and is facing 25 years in a federal prison (meaning no parole or early release) because his SOT expired while he was getting treatment for cancer in the hospital, and raided his house the very next day and confiscated all of his guns. He served 5 years in SF and 15 years in Delta Force and was one of the two designers of the HK416 (which is Delta’s and Devgru’s main carbine). There’s a video about it on guns & gadgets channel.
There's a bit more to it than that, and he wasn't convicted, he pled guilty.
Yeah it’s WAY more complicated than an “expired” SOT, it was clear and blatant abuse of his SOT🤷🏻♂️
@@studentofthe556 all he had to do was provide proof of demo to Leo’s and all of that could have been avoided. I feel kind of sorry for him, but he could have been smarter.
Sure. He is a legend 🙏🏻