YOU GUYS CLOVE WAS ALMOST KATNISS TOO!!! they only didn't cast her over Jennifer because the actress was 14 and they decided that was too young!!!! never forget!!!
@faiza ahmed Welp..we're just gonna say : SIMPS LIKE SIMPS. AND I AM A SIMP. Also,Katniss literally had TWO SENTENCES about Peeta's eyelashes. Cindy overthinks these things whyyyyyy...I love it though. Not gonna lie I laugh at that flour scene. ALWAYS. (Note that unintentional Hunger Games pun)
Yo i'm just confused that we're still out here sleeping on peeta's genuine non-toxic masculinity of being charming and unaggressive and baking cakes and being open about his simping. he's a Soft Boy and we should be raising those examples of masculinity up >:0 EDIT: that said, the books brought that across better. also katniss should've been played by an indigenous person (i swear she had 'olive skin' in the book i stg) PASS IT ON
God yes! especially cuz in the first book there was no chemistry or hint of romance between them, it was introduced in the later books, and with her narrating/inner thoughts in the book it seemed like she was really not all that into him either
Tbh I liked Peeta more than everyone else in the books. The movies did try to show Peeta's charismatic and clever side but it was very subtle? Like: him waving at the audience and holding hands with Katniss to gain attention from the audience, and hence sponsors. Him trying to use the love story of him and Katniss to attract sponsors. In catching fire too, there were a lot scenes like that. FFS that pregnancy bomb that he dropped on the Capitol to stop the games lol. He even saved district 13 in Mockingjay 1 with his warning on television. But the books did it all a lot better, of course.
with the topic of a different actress for katniss- i honestly wish all of the actors were actually age-appropriate à la rue. i feel like that would have compounded the fact that literal children are made to kill each other for entertainment.
most of the actors who played the tributes were around 12-19 but since minors aren't allowed to work a certain quantity of hours (im not sure ab the rule, im not from the us but i know it exists) they had to cast actors in their 20s for the bigger roles
why are y’all hating so much on my boy peeta 🥺 book peeta is like one of my favorite hunger games characters and i hate how weak and useless the movies made him look. were it not for peeta katniss probably would’ve died at numerous points throughout the games and he is also just one of the sweetest and purest characters ever.
I couldn't agree more! Peeta didn't have the typical male skills, but he had skills that were extremely useful and helpful. Peeta gets a bad rep, but I think that says more about our buy-in to masculinity than him as a character...which is sad.
@@L_kid2 Peeta getting his name called: I wonder if my bro will save me like that girl I'm simping for :) His one brother that's the right age: Peeta: His brother: Peeta: w o w
"why are the only black characters in the movie a little girl who's only being used for a tear-jerker moment for the main character and a guy we don't even see the death for." In a dystopian world there is hardly people of colour. Noted author.
Is it just me, or was this meant to be symbolic of racism? There's a district meant just for black people and their only means of survival is...farming (cough slavery reference? cough cough) And Katniss, a white girl is praised by said black people on a giant screen for dumping a bunch of flowers into a dead black girl's wound? Maybe this was said in the books somewhere, but I'm not sure if this was supposed to be racist or not. Am I missing something?
@@oneangryboi408 in books Rue's race was never specified, and generally districts are not that divided by race and far more diverse (so, like, person of any race could come from any district actually if it would be by the book). No characters except for Peeta's, Katniss' and Gale's family have specified skin color.
YUP! Katniss is handy and street smart but Peeta is socially smart and is a good planner. The star-crossed lovers, alliances, the way he knows how to handle people and be politically smart is so underappreciated!
@@mariah6395 yeeees! Exactly! Haymitch makes very clear that making the public liking you is absolutely important to survive and I mean I love Katniss and stuff but she's not the best at it (people like her best when she's not trying, but when she has to try..oh boy) but Peeta is the best on it and he 'makes' people like Katniss a lot though the books what is really important for her image
@@sweetlids2898 dude Katniss is alive literally because of him. And also the boy lose his leg in the first book and that's a lot why he get kinda slow (but in the movie they don't make that happen so he's just slow cause yes)
Every time I watch this movie I remind myself that while Katniss and her blond Caucasian puppy were dodging fireballs, death bees and hormones, my man Gale was sitting on his ass in a field thinking about how sad it is that his hunting buddy was gone.
i can't get over how katniss and peeta's ship name is literally peeniss. like who let this happen now 13 year old fans are gonna be walking around with peeniss on their shirts
Peeta was a SUPER threat, he was so much more likable, stronger and was less hot headed. Katniss knew that the only thing she had over him was her skills. He was the capitols golden boy.
i feel like katniss was implied to be indigenous (or at least mixed) in the books? her sister and mom were said to be pale and blonde, but katniss and her dad had swarthy olive complexions and black hair. it's pretty annoying how all the uprising scenes and scenes of injustice are depicted heavily with actors of color, yet the main cast (and most of the other tributes) are white? it makes sense that the kids from the "favored"/more privileged districts are white, but i feel like it would be more powerful if the other districts had more diversity to reflect america's racial economic inequality and regional divide. without diversity to reflect real life systemic inequalities, this story just becomes another "WOW what if inequality was real??" sob story for privileged people to wank to. boring
readwithcindy for whatever reason I saw sejanus in the BOSAS as Desi. He’s an antifascist king and I just feel like it would be a great statement as well.
Yes. Katniss and Primrose's dad was Native and their mom white, hence why Primrose was white passing with blonde hair. Katniss and Primrose should both be played by Indigenous actresses.
4:25 that old woman was not the one who gave her the mockingjay pin in the 1st book hence why you're so confused. In the books, it was Madge Undersee, the mayor's daughter and Katniss' friend from school, who gave Katniss the pin to use as a district token. It originally belonged to Madge's aunt who were also a tribute alongside with Haymitch. She was part of district 12's upper middle class so it wasn't a problem for Madge to give away that gold pin.
I was actually pretty disappointed that they left out that info in the movies. Not only was I expecting to see movie Madge, I was also hoping to see a snippet of Haymitch's time in the arena with Madge's aunt. The book also explained why Madge's mom had to take morphling (or a pain relief drug, not sure). Ans then there was a scene when Madge gave some bottles of it to Gale who was in pain fron the whipping he got in Catching Fire
i feel like this movie did katniss dirty. katniss in the book was able to talk to reader and give them insight, she has a sense of humor as well as sarcasm. but i’m the movie katniss is just like: 👁-👁
I thought the same thing too when I watched the first movie and I didn’t get why everyone loved her so much (I assumed that they just saw the book character in her). This isn’t shade at Jennifer Lawrence at all, I liked her in the second movie but I didn’t think she really shined here
Seriously, though, Rue's whole character arc was excellent in the book and actually explained why she wanted to hang with Katniss and why she wanted her to sing, but the movie was like "here have one 2 minute scene with Katniss and Rue together to establish their relationship. Now feel something when she dies."
Yeah, like you find out she's so good at climbing and moving through trees because she was in charge of sending messages to workers in the orchards back home. And the whistle she uses to communicate with Katniss is the signal she would use to tell people the work day was over and all the Mockingjays would spread it throughout the fields. And singing was like their only source of entertainment while they worked so songs and singing were really important to them. But lol all of that was glossed over in the movie and she was just kind of reduced to a poorly executed tear-jerker moment...
edit: she has grey eyes my mistake 😔 the way they turned “olive skinned, brown eyed, dark haired 16 year old” katniss into jennifer lawrence with brown hair will never fail to grind my gears...it was obvious in the book that the richer people in district 12 had blonde hair, blue eyes and pale skin like her mother and peeta :))) katniss constantly describes herself as looking like a “typical Seam resident” as well as Gale. it’s how they convinced the Capitol they were cousins plus when they completely wrote out Peeta losing his leg and having a prosthetic after the 2nd book i think the aging up of Katniss really ruined that whole love triangle, the point in the books seemed to be that she wasn’t interested in both in the first book, in the second she fell in love with the idea of distancing herself from the Capitol and marrying Gale like expected , in the second half of Catching Fire and the third book she realised that Gale could never understand what she had been through and Peeta felt her pain. to Katniss it wasn’t “which cute boy” but which life she would choose, to try and forget and be a tradwife or move forward and try to heal i don’t think people give enough credit to Gale turning her down to fight for other people either. despite him being almost weirdly groomed by President Coin into doing uncharacteristic things
Man thank you that's what I kept telling everyone. Race factors into the poverty issue so hard. But also the white washing of all the districts is weird af. Like the movies really made a whole district black and think that wouldn't come off as racist af. It felt like some weird form of segregation where all the black people were put together for no reason especially as that wasn't how it was in the books. Reading the book first and then watching this film was my worst mistake. I left the movies mad. But for real all the things they skipped sometimes frustrates me because it adds more to how awful this world and their lives really are and explains so many things that lack context because they werent shown well like not including the girl who escaped in the ending of the first book.
Omg yes! It is a wonderful dystopy that is so nuanced and layered. Also they rarely give olive skin to any character?? (All white characters are pale usually. I don't really know if Katniss is white though, she might be mixed)
I don't even think it's the fault of the movies. It was more clear in the books because we got to look inside her head, but even in the movies she never seemed particularly interested in Peeta or Gale romantically. And her "happily ever after" featured war flashbacks. I think the issue is that people watching it only saw "YA", "female protagonist", and "love triangle" and immediately came to the conclusion that it was frilly wish fulfilment garbage. Because anything teen girls like is obviously trash.
She was digging through the trash 😭looking for food cuz her mom was an alcoholic going through depression neglecting her daughters😭the mom was yelling at her to leave and she sat out in the rain begging cuz she had no where else to find food. And Peeta was being beat for “burning” the bread and it was all done on purpose to give her the bread to eat 😭😭
I read somewhere that the mother was so happy that their district may win this time because of certain someone in front of his face. I think that basically implied how she felt for him.
Your comments make me think of how when this movie came out, there was a controversy over how Jennifer Lawrence was cast instead of a POC because the description of Katniss in the book leads the reader to believe that she is of mixed heritage. The book even goes into the class distinctions between the citizens in District 12 and how their features differentiate from each other. It's why Katniss's mom has fair skin and blonde hair because she was from the "upper class" while Katniss's father was from the "lower class".
@@angelicordelia8041 IKR because if anyone with the right sense of mind just read the book, they would understand that Peeta's love for Katniss is genuine and he's a really good guy. Better than Gale who was a rock btw. And not to mention that 'thing' he caused in Mockingjay.
exactly!! Peeta was sooooo amazing. and he was perfect for her. she needed someone stable and kind for her to rely on and he became that for her. katniss grew to love him. she realized that she wouldn’t be able to live without him so she did everything she could to protect him. i love them together
cindy talking about how they should've hired a native american actress instead is galaxy brain we would've had flying cars by now if cindy was in charge of hollywood.
Really tho! That comment brought me back to being a fan of the books waiting to see who they casted and ultimately disappointed because the books described Katniss as “olive skinned” which Jlaw isn’t. I expected a WOC instead.
Peeta is one of the best romantic interests in books and on screen. He was a cool dude. Gale was hot garbage to begin with. He had 16 years to shoot his shot and got mad when she seemed happy with someone else. The toxicity.
I’m so glad you mentioned this😂😭 Like, The Hunger Games (all three books and all four movies) are BLATANT allegories and allusions and for them to be so white centric is beyond me. People stan dystopian rebellion narratives, but when they happen in real life with real people, the oppressed (black ppl specifically) are basically told to stfu. I’m tired 😭🤦🏾♀️
OMG THIS 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 people are really out here crapping on these protests, but were cheering for everyone in district 11 for rioting when Rue died. Like, pick your player; are you dumb or stupid 🙄 are you with it or are you not? But yess, your comment made me excited because I was waiting for someone to bring this up ✨✨
Literally though, the movie takes out soooo much detail and nuance...so many criticisms cindy had during this (which are valid in the context of watching the movie) are actually explained in the book
I love Peeta because I am SO tired of emotionless male characters who solve everything with violence. I'd take a sensitive sweetheart over that any day.
And the way people make fun of him (ik it’s a joke but still) really shows that people can’t handle anything more than the carbon copy of EVERY emotionless, toxic love interest. It kinda sucks tbh that we don’t see more characters like him
But like, here me out- I know my younger sister would die, I also know I would die. But if I was in the hunger games, you bet I’m going out making a big social statement. And be honored as a hero for volunteering. And that one percent chance I manage to just find a nice cave and sleep the entire time, and survive. The I’m living that sweet life.
@@fabuloushatlady7812 you know that's what i thought i would do when i first read the concept for the book, but then these dudes have cameras all over and chuck balls of fire or skin burning gas if you're being boring :/
Rachel Varghese, yeah... and by this point I don’t mind for death, like it would be nice to love, but if I die it’s oh well. I’ll just pull a Peet’s, hide so good they can’t find me. And nap until my teammates all kill each other. Of course I’ll refuse to kill (unless it’s a mercy kill and it’s better for them) and whenever I’m on stage I would be a bench to the capital people. Set the sparks of rebellion a flame.
Cindy when you said, "you're in poverty you can't afford to give away your pin for free." As a poor myself I have to say, I give away shit all the time to those in need and so do my poor neighbors. Just yesterday she gave me a stack of pencils for my daughter whose just learning to write and I gave her a box of capri-suns I got on discount. We give each other things all the time. I barely have enough to feed myself and my kids. We struggle out here but we don't hold on to shit. Desperation is shared and when you give out blessings to the world you get it back. Amen.
When my mother and father were doing badly early on in their marriage, they gave away a computer they really couldn't afford so that their friend's daughter didn't have to walk to the library in the dark by herself. Human kindness is not a plot hole. There's no one with community and compassion like people who know the struggle.
It's usually the poorest ones that are the most generous, let's be honest here. They give even when they don't have much and that makes it so much more meaningful. While on the other hand, people who have more tend to be far less generous and more careful about the benefits they might gain
The whole time I was watching the movie, all i could think was that Katniss, Peeta and Gale look too healthy to play characters living in extreme poverty.
I think Jennifer Lawrence said in an interview that she didn't want Katniss to be too thin because many girls would be looking up to her, and didn't want any of them to starve themselves trying to look like Katniss
@@caminunez8482 ofc no one wants a starved actor on screen to influence young people. But it was the equivalent of casting Timothee a chamalet as Thor. Just doesn’t make sense. I saw a comment that said Naya Rivera was almost cast as Katniss. Now that would’ve been more fitting
Kind of wish the movie makers included that scene in the book where Katniss rips Peeta’s heart out on the train back when she tells him it was all an act...
Arianna Howard There was a scene on the train on the way back to district 12 but it was basically just, “What do we do now?” “I guess we just try to forget.” Or something along those lines. It didn’t include Katniss telling Peeta the whole thing was an act.
@@joshwill3941 I think that's because most people understand the subtext... and the acting was great. You can tell that what Katniss means is "I want to forget about everything that happened in the games, including our fake romance" and the look on Peeta's face makes it crystal clear that he understands exactly what she means by that. I watched the movies before I read the books, and I totally got all of that from that one line and Peeta's reaction.
Can we normalise dating shorter men in 2020?! Also for all people talk about wanting to date nice and sensitive guys... Welll PEETA is one! We stan peeta mellark in this house.
These poor kids who are extremely attractive yet live in environments where starving to death is common enough that volunteering and putting your card into a bowl of inevitable death multiple times in exchange of food. Will someone just think of the children?
Few other things I thought of: 1. Peeta and Gale are way more interesting in the books. I actually liked how the author approached the relationships. Gale had a promising start as the romantic lead, but I got the feeling they ended up wanting different things out of life as time went on, he couldn't deal with her post-war PTSD and depression, and he had major resentment issues over Peeta. It got very toxic very fast. They way downplayed Peeta. 2. Peeta and Katniss had more chemistry in the book. He was generally more charismatic and less of an airhead. I felt genuine friendship, or at least the start of it, develop between them over the first book. I can't say whether or not she truly fell in love with him by the series' end, but there is no question of his devotion to her. I get why they ended up together and if that brings her some happiness I can't complain. 3. Katniss mother has a whole backstory. The short version is that she has severe depression and is almost always emotionally checked out. This is a major criticism Katniss has, as it forced her to be the adult/parent running the household at an early age. It is also a contributing factor to her own lack of reactivity to anything and heavily stunted emotions. 4. The other kids in the games weren't so cartoonishly evil. They weren't exactly good people you were rooting for, but a lot of their behavior was purely practical. They were survivalists first. 5. The choice to let them both win was a split-second decision on the part of the host, likely to please the capitol's upper class citizens and the districts. President Snow confirms that he disapproved and the movie reasonably hinted that he ordered the host to be killed. 6. The book description of Katniss is ethnically ambiguous, so making her mixed or having a minority actress could have been a neat way to add layers of subtext in the movie that weren't in the book. I remember people throwing a fit over whether or not she was white before the film came out though. People were also concerned about how they would portray a minority if they went it that direction. I wouldn't be surprised if Hollywood saw all that and decided it was safer to go with the white actress anyway.
@Bille Nye The Russian Spy I'll admit that I was a little surprised when Rue was black. I tend to skim over physical descriptions and just assign them myself based on who I know in real life (I'm a speed reader/skimmer), so I pictured them both as looking like my little sister at that age because that's the whole parallel between the two characters and I'm the same age gap as Katniss and Prim/Rue, so i couldnt tell you how they were described in the books. But I didn't understand why it was such a big deal that Rue wasn't white or whatever. I thought it added a little bit of layers to the movie, where they weren't just segregated by class, but also race. I just wish they had done a bit more with it if they were going to call attention to the segregation in the film
Amen. I only read the first two books, but Peeta felt so much less like a McGuffin and more like an actually valuable asset. He was valuable because he was charismatic and likable, which the rebels could use to convince people, but in the movies they portray a blonde simp pretty boy who they decided to save from the capitol because reasons. I enjoyed the movies, but they could have done better.
The movies also left out that Peeta became an amputee because of the leg wound. It was a big plot point in the books, Katniss was so guilty about it and it was one of the reasons she was so insistent that Peeta win the games in the second book, plus it’s repeatedly brought up that the artificial leg made him walk loudly so it made stealth harder.
okay so what i’ve learnt is if youtubers were put into the games cindy would win by a landslide bc girl is cashing in her sponsorships and i’m living for it
PLS THATS LITERALLY EXACTLY HOW IT WAS😭😭and its so funny cause shes _always_ scheming which i love but she just assumes that everyone else is the same so she sees everything peeta does as some kind of a trick lmfaoooo i love her
The relationship between Katniss and Prim is more than just sisterhood, Katniss thinks of Prim as her daughter at some point because she had to raise her while her mom had emotional issues. That is why is so heartwrecking when you know who died and Katniss doesn't have anything worth fighting for anymore😭
The way I hollered when I read this comment!! I nearly sharted myself. Believe me, I've had a few of those guys in my life and boy, they all have the exact same look right before they're slammed. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I what there to be a Karen in the Hungry Games now 🤭 "No, no, no! You will not put my daughter in those RATCHET games! Where is the manager? Where is the manager!"
Peeta is amazing. He loves katniss’s unconditionally, will help her when she needs it, and they can comfort each other when they have nightmares. The second movie really shows katniss loving peeta back. She is just as patient with Peeta as he is with her. I don’t need to make this longer than it needs to be, but they have a true love and I don’t care who disagrees with me. Movie flame does a great job explaining how peeta is the best and shows the evolution of their relationship through the films and books.
ABSOLUTELY. I wrote my junior year paper on this trilogy and all the important messages it was able to portray to a younger AND older audience. And I made the point of how society treated this story the EXACT same way that the watchers in the Capitol did. How we as an audience focused so much on "romance" and arguing about who was "better for her" that we willingly turned a blind eye to the actual point. 👏🏻
Yes yes yes, the romance and the perfect rebellious hero, because that's what people want to see. When in fact the point of the books was to show that both sides are kind of evil, war is awful, mostly just propaganda, and Katniss was just used for that. And for the romance part, she was mostly just thinking that she didn't have the time or nerve to think about it, and was annoyed to be pressured to make a decision, what a queen
dude yes!! it was all so so nuanced but the moment i got it was when the author made the leader of the rebellion just as awful as the main villain. like- damn, that rlly hit.
I've always liked how the abusive parent for Peeta was his mom, not his dad, as is always shown in books and movies. It's very realistic, actually, the dynamic between Peeta and his parents. His dad seems to hate the abuse, but is still with his wife despite what she's like.
"I can't tell who is who" This is so relatable tho. As an asian person i fucking swear i absolutely CANNOT differentiate three protagonists of Pacific Rim Like every white blonde boy is just the same fucking face over an over again
I think it was said that they knew they had to stop Katniss and Peeta from killing themselves because it would look like a giant "FUCK YOU” to the Capitol: "If you won’t have both of us then you will get none” They refused to kill each other and by suicide they would not only deprive the Capitol from their Victor but also show that they don’t have to play by Snow’s rules
Correct me if I'm wrong but I could have sworn in the books that Katniss and everyone else in district 12 had a tan skin complexion other than her mother and sister.
It was actually divided, Peetas family was also white and blond, but yea in the book Katniss and a good 60% of that district is described as having olive skin, thanks for fucking that up Hollywood
I was afraid it might be a term we only associated with brown skin in my country and yall might not have the same definition in other places, but google told me "Olive skin is a human skin colour spectrum. It is often associated with pigmentation in the Type III to Type IV and Type V ranges of the Fitzpatrick scale. It generally refers to light or moderate brown, brownish, or tan skin, and it is often described as having yellow, green, or golden undertones." So yea ;; not really _white_ white per se, and even then if someone does wanna see as just tan, Jennifer is a gem and i love her, but she is dead pale in that movie oof
@@bellsthesultana yeah, she's way too pale to be an pitch perfect match for Katniss. But I think that other than her skin tone, that should have been more tan, and her height/weight (Katniss is supposedly short and kinda petite), Jennifer sufficiently resembles the character (grey eyes and dark hair). I also don't get those that dislike her interpretation. She is Katniss, to me.
There was an "upper class) called the Merchants, and a "lower class) called the Seam. The Merchants usually had blonde hair and light colored eyes, and the Seam almost always had olive-skin, darker hair and gray-ish eyes
Also, to answer your question about why dont they die together: it's because people in the capital are also betting on who is going to win in the hunger games so if both of them die, everyone in the capital is going to riot because technically no one won so the organizer had to stop it. Also, if they both died together, it might cause a domino effect and set an example for other district tributes to die together without an actual winner, causing more dissatisfaction in the capital gamblers. I can't believe I used my brain cells to think this through than doing smth actually productive huhus
Joanna Mayol that and snow bangs on about hope. If they both died hope gone the end. With a bit of hope they drudge along in their lives - much like capitalism yay
when cindy said, “um, edward cullen who??” i suddenly remembered the fact that edward took the engine out of bella’s truck so she couldn’t leave and honestly why couldn’t twilight have been about alice and jasper instead of this toxic abusive relationship presented as romance
Meg Conquest he was and that’s disgusting, esp since that’s glossed over so quickly, but i saw someone say sth that i agree with which is that all the cullens would probably have racism to unlearn. i don’t think jasper would be the only one with a racist past you know??
Peeta and Gale together basically could combine to form one full YA love interest. Gale has all the possessiveness and fake woke vibes, and Peeta has the tender, nice-guy energy that's supposed to make us forgive the abusive part. More importantly, I really appreciate you calling attention to the plight of indigenous people in the US
11:09 this is actually a nice scene between Peeta and Katniss that the movie didn't execute well. In the books Katniss father had died and her mother got depression. Due to her Mom's depression she wasn't working meaning that there was no money for any food. In attempt to keep her family from dying from starvation Katniss goes to the bakery Peeta works at in hopes in finding food for her family. Peeta's mom finds Katniss digging in the trash and shoos her away. Katniss loses all hope and sits in the rain wondering how she is going to get food for her sister and mom. Peeta saw the commotion going on with his Mom and Katniss and goes ahead and burns bread on purpose so he has an excuse to take out the bread to give it to Katniss. Peeta mom sees that he burnt the bread and gives Peeta a black eye because anyways the Mellark family worked at the bakery they were tight on money and needed to sell all their food. So when Peeta's mom looks aways Peeta takes the bread and throws it to Katniss real quick. This gesture saved Katniss and her family and this moment Katniss had with Peeta was very meaningful to her. Also at 21:30 Idk why the movie made Peeta say that! In the books he never said he watched Katniss every day. In the books Katniss asks Peeta when he decided he liked her and Peeta said when they were in elementary and he heard her sing and how the birds stopped to listen and that’s when he knew he was goner. Then Katniss ask, “so you never noticed any other girls?” And Peeta replies with, “I did but they never made an lasting impression like you.” Honesty the books are so much better and the movie butchered Peeta’s character
"for a society that's so advanced they're way behind on ergonomics" they sleep on concrete slabs.. what do they care for scoliosis 😭 hilarious as usual!!
I’m the books Katniss, Gale, Haymitch, and many others in the seam were described with olive skin and grey eyes so it could make sense if they came from Native American descent. And many people from the merchant section. Of the district had Blue eyes and blond hair so in the book there was some sort of line between the rich (but still poor) and the very poor Also, the flashback scene is from when Katniss and her family almost died from starvation and she was trying to sell baby cloths for money for food. She was so tired she fell to her knees infront of the bakery where peeta saw her. So he burned the bread a little so he’d have to take it out. There he threw it to Katniss and she took and it saved her from dying. And then the next day it turns out he was beat for doing that by his mother. This was my first video I’ve seen from you and it’s super great so far!
I'd love a TV series where they have the first season be dedicated to the backstory of Katniss's relationship with her family (including before and after her father's death) and others. This would explain so much for later parts of the series.
"this is the hunger games not the frat boy games" "he looks like he auditioned for Peeta and didn't get it" 😂😂😂 Cindy, outchea coming for my man Alexander! Still love her!
'' i'm here to hit it, and quit it'' Honestly, this right there is why people HATE katniss and say all she ever did was getting played like a pawn and just go with the flow... BUT HERE I AM, loving her for it?!?! For once we have a 16yo protagonist who did not ask for any of it, and actually only wanted to live her life and later on wanted her sister and peeta safe and didn't give 2 fucks about the revolution. THAT'S precisely the reason i love.
"I wish Katniss had been played by a Native American actress." 💯 I always pictured her as such and it would be awesome for us to get some good representation.
@@kairossnt olive doesn't necessarily mean dark. It's a skin tone that comes in ranges and is especially common in the Mediterranean. You can be pale and have an olive toned complexion, your undertones are just yellowy/greenish. Same goes for black hair/dark eyes.
They really had Katniss in a love triangle between a frat-boy lookin crybaby and a three foot simp whose only skill was looking like a rock
today i learned my comments section is full of cyberbullies
Don’t forget that the Frat Boy high key commits war crimes in the later books lol
Finnick is the superior boy confirmed.
Dull chemistry vs Dull chemistry
Jules King don’t we all
gale had the personality of a rock, peeta had the talent of disguising himself like a rock- katniss clearly had a type
wait until she meets dwayne johnson...
And she got saved by a dude with a rock! I smell a recurring motif here...
and both were rock hard for her
Tony Phan this wins
Katniss x Rock
“he looks like he auditioned for peeta and didn’t get the role” CINDY HE LITERALLY DID 😭 HE ALMOST GOT THE ROLE TOO
why am i always right
He's a pretty good actor though. I'm sure he would have been a pretty great Peeta.
@@IHARumor yessssssssss. But now he has a good role in Vikings
YOU GUYS CLOVE WAS ALMOST KATNISS TOO!!! they only didn't cast her over Jennifer because the actress was 14 and they decided that was too young!!!! never forget!!!
Im so fucking glad he didnt cause that would have sucked
katniss and peeta are literally the personification of the “happily married to my 5’5 king” meme but y’all are too blind to acknowledge it
I ACKNOWLEDGE IT
Normalise dating shorter guys 2020!
Why care about height still?!
@@Alexfolledemoi This 👏💖
Y’all in the books Peeta is taller
@faiza ahmed Welp..we're just gonna say : SIMPS LIKE SIMPS. AND I AM A SIMP. Also,Katniss literally had TWO SENTENCES about Peeta's eyelashes. Cindy overthinks these things whyyyyyy...I love it though.
Not gonna lie I laugh at that flour scene. ALWAYS.
(Note that unintentional Hunger Games pun)
Yo i'm just confused that we're still out here sleeping on peeta's genuine non-toxic masculinity of being charming and unaggressive and baking cakes and being open about his simping. he's a Soft Boy and we should be raising those examples of masculinity up >:0
EDIT: that said, the books brought that across better. also katniss should've been played by an indigenous person (i swear she had 'olive skin' in the book i stg) PASS IT ON
Yes, thank you! I'm wondering the same thing. If a guy doesn't have toxic masculinity, he's called a simp
I think peeta def influenced the type of guys I’m into now. I remember not even knowing what he looked like but being so in love with his sweetness.
She rlly did! I had always read Katniss as arab or latina because of the way the book described her, seeing Jennifer Lawrance play her was kind of :|
She did! I also wish she had been cast as indigenous
You!!! my friend, i will st1n forever
this entire movie is just katniss looking at peeta like "sorry..... :/ i'm not going to peg you"
i wish i could pin more than one comment
He has Gale for that
bara satan Gale x Peeta ?! Haven’t seen that one before
LMAOOOOOOO NOOOO
This comment wins!
"you keep forcing this chemistry we dont have"
I felt that.
dammit gale!
God yes! especially cuz in the first book there was no chemistry or hint of romance between them, it was introduced in the later books, and with her narrating/inner thoughts in the book it seemed like she was really not all that into him either
Its even worse in the book
@@BelladonnaHarker I’m always confused when people say they prefer Gale if they’ve read the books. 😬
@@tinymxnticore I watched the movies and was thrown off as a kid when they kissed. I thought it was weird af (and out of pity lmao)
I don't get why people hate Peeta. He was a pretty likeable dude.
People hate him bc they didn't educate themselves and read the books. He's SO MUCH BETTER in the books and is an absolute genius smh
He's okay, in the books at least.
I don't get it too, he is my favorite character!
he's literally just a himbo and people hate him for that
Tbh I liked Peeta more than everyone else in the books. The movies did try to show Peeta's charismatic and clever side but it was very subtle? Like: him waving at the audience and holding hands with Katniss to gain attention from the audience, and hence sponsors. Him trying to use the love story of him and Katniss to attract sponsors. In catching fire too, there were a lot scenes like that. FFS that pregnancy bomb that he dropped on the Capitol to stop the games lol. He even saved district 13 in Mockingjay 1 with his warning on television. But the books did it all a lot better, of course.
Peeta is a saint with a patience of an angel and he's a MVP. I don't take any criticism whatsoever.
✨👏✨👏✨
Agree this video was hard for me to watch because of all the Peeta slander lmao
He’s so sweet💘
The only comment I can accept
This!
"Gale is so a conventionally attractive man, but is so boring at the same time... what a waste" every cute guy on TikTok
i shudder
This is ACCURATE
I see no lies.
Listen
The boys on feminist tik tok are lovely tho
with the topic of a different actress for katniss- i honestly wish all of the actors were actually age-appropriate à la rue. i feel like that would have compounded the fact that literal children are made to kill each other for entertainment.
very true!
also i believe thst some of the characters are POC
The rue actress was thirteen then...
staramuletart and Rue was a twelve year old girl
most of the actors who played the tributes were around 12-19 but since minors aren't allowed to work a certain quantity of hours (im not sure ab the rule, im not from the us but i know it exists) they had to cast actors in their 20s for the bigger roles
why are y’all hating so much on my boy peeta 🥺 book peeta is like one of my favorite hunger games characters and i hate how weak and useless the movies made him look. were it not for peeta katniss probably would’ve died at numerous points throughout the games and he is also just one of the sweetest and purest characters ever.
I couldn't agree more! Peeta didn't have the typical male skills, but he had skills that were extremely useful and helpful. Peeta gets a bad rep, but I think that says more about our buy-in to masculinity than him as a character...which is sad.
i so agree! just because he isn’t the typical manly man a lot of people dislike him. though the movies do make it worse by making him seem useless ://
Peeta is definitely my favorite character
I only like book peeta
They Ron weasley’d him
I like how we’re all saying Peeta is a “short king” because his actor was 5’6” but like,,, in the books he was like 5’10” and Katniss 5’4”
lmao
lmao exactly! he was a wrestler in the book iirc
Lol
Friendly reminder Peeta had like three brothers and none of them volunteered for him
good
Two were too old and the other didn’t care
@@L_kid2 Peeta getting his name called: I wonder if my bro will save me like that girl I'm simping for :)
His one brother that's the right age:
Peeta:
His brother:
Peeta: w o w
Frank -Undercover Dragon- His brother really said “oh well, sucks to be you bro don’t die”
They were looking st each other after Katniss volunteered like “and nobody’s going to help him??? Wowww some world we live in🙄🙄🙄”
"why are the only black characters in the movie a little girl who's only being used for a tear-jerker moment for the main character and a guy we don't even see the death for."
In a dystopian world there is hardly people of colour. Noted author.
Is it just me, or was this meant to be symbolic of racism? There's a district meant just for black people and their only means of survival is...farming (cough slavery reference? cough cough) And Katniss, a white girl is praised by said black people on a giant screen for dumping a bunch of flowers into a dead black girl's wound?
Maybe this was said in the books somewhere, but I'm not sure if this was supposed to be racist or not. Am I missing something?
make katniss and peeta POC u cowards
@@oneangryboi408 in books Rue's race was never specified, and generally districts are not that divided by race and far more diverse (so, like, person of any race could come from any district actually if it would be by the book). No characters except for Peeta's, Katniss' and Gale's family have specified skin color.
kinda Anastasia i think it is mentioned in the first book that most people in the farming district are black as a large majority
@@athenaatkinson6074 I read translation, so it could've been ruled over. In translation they don't have that
Peeta is a freaking genius. I get so frustrated when people don't get how inteligent he is and the times he actually saved Katniss
RIGHT
YUP! Katniss is handy and street smart but Peeta is socially smart and is a good planner. The star-crossed lovers, alliances, the way he knows how to handle people and be politically smart is so underappreciated!
@@mariah6395 yeeees! Exactly! Haymitch makes very clear that making the public liking you is absolutely important to survive and I mean I love Katniss and stuff but she's not the best at it (people like her best when she's not trying, but when she has to try..oh boy) but Peeta is the best on it and he 'makes' people like Katniss a lot though the books what is really important for her image
@@sweetlids2898 dude Katniss is alive literally because of him. And also the boy lose his leg in the first book and that's a lot why he get kinda slow (but in the movie they don't make that happen so he's just slow cause yes)
@@sweetlids2898 alot better. He's a freaking genius.
Every time I watch this movie I remind myself that while Katniss and her blond Caucasian puppy were dodging fireballs, death bees and hormones, my man Gale was sitting on his ass in a field thinking about how sad it is that his hunting buddy was gone.
Ooooh burn 🔥
OMG NO
Oop. Facts 🍵
where’s the lie tho?? 😗🍵
“Blond Caucasian puppy” I love this holy shit.
Peeta has “claps when the plane lands” energy
my god youre right
Pffft
I just choked on a chicken nugget
Noo ahaha 😭😭😭
no cap oh man
i can't get over how katniss and peeta's ship name is literally peeniss. like who let this happen now 13 year old fans are gonna be walking around with peeniss on their shirts
I find most of the Peenis shirts were fan made. Any comerically sold merchandise had Everlark instead 😂
good for them
And the problem is...?
Peeniss and Gayniss 😌😌
Also kapeeta . It makes more sense in Portuguese
Peeta was a SUPER threat, he was so much more likable, stronger and was less hot headed. Katniss knew that the only thing she had over him was her skills. He was the capitols golden boy.
Ikr Katniss isn't really likeable and Haymitch also said that he made her likeable
@@misterminutes4504 which was his goal from the start.
i feel like katniss was implied to be indigenous (or at least mixed) in the books? her sister and mom were said to be pale and blonde, but katniss and her dad had swarthy olive complexions and black hair. it's pretty annoying how all the uprising scenes and scenes of injustice are depicted heavily with actors of color, yet the main cast (and most of the other tributes) are white? it makes sense that the kids from the "favored"/more privileged districts are white, but i feel like it would be more powerful if the other districts had more diversity to reflect america's racial economic inequality and regional divide.
without diversity to reflect real life systemic inequalities, this story just becomes another "WOW what if inequality was real??" sob story for privileged people to wank to. boring
I agree!!!
readwithcindy for whatever reason I saw sejanus in the BOSAS as Desi. He’s an antifascist king and I just feel like it would be a great statement as well.
Yes. Katniss and Primrose's dad was Native and their mom white, hence why Primrose was white passing with blonde hair. Katniss and Primrose should both be played by Indigenous actresses.
Not like being white means you can't be poor
olive skin and dark hair can also mean Italian though or Greek. So to me, I don't care who plays Katniss
katniss: he's just planning everything
peeta: whh;a t if w e kk;ijss ed 😳😳😳 nghh,; and h hheld hwands 🥺
c-can we hold hands UWU!!!
Interesting fact: A director actually wanted Naya Rivera to play Katniss.
WHAT
I need this. Imagine her reading all the other tributes for filth in the interview! I would have lost it
Omg I didnt know this :0
OMFG that would've been perfect! RIP Naya
WE COULDA HAD IT *AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLL*
4:25 that old woman was not the one who gave her the mockingjay pin in the 1st book hence why you're so confused. In the books, it was Madge Undersee, the mayor's daughter and Katniss' friend from school, who gave Katniss the pin to use as a district token. It originally belonged to Madge's aunt who were also a tribute alongside with Haymitch. She was part of district 12's upper middle class so it wasn't a problem for Madge to give away that gold pin.
It also meant a lot that it was her aunt’s, an innocent girl who was killed because of the Capitol
I was actually pretty disappointed that they left out that info in the movies. Not only was I expecting to see movie Madge, I was also hoping to see a snippet of Haymitch's time in the arena with Madge's aunt. The book also explained why Madge's mom had to take morphling (or a pain relief drug, not sure). Ans then there was a scene when Madge gave some bottles of it to Gale who was in pain fron the whipping he got in Catching Fire
Clearly, the producers thought our minds would explode if Katniss was even somewhat friendly to another girl besides Prim and Rue 👀
Also one of the reasons Haymitch was a mess. he felt extreme guilt for not being able to save her.
@@tinymxnticore lol, I think my mind would explode. It happens too often
i feel like this movie did katniss dirty. katniss in the book was able to talk to reader and give them insight, she has a sense of humor as well as sarcasm.
but i’m the movie katniss is just like: 👁-👁
so stoic,,,, so mysterious
LOL: meanwhile Katniss in makeup on Caesar's show: 👁👄👁
👁👄👁
I thought the same thing too when I watched the first movie and I didn’t get why everyone loved her so much (I assumed that they just saw the book character in her). This isn’t shade at Jennifer Lawrence at all, I liked her in the second movie but I didn’t think she really shined here
I WHEEZED
I feel like there was more romantic chemistry between katniss and any food that pops up onscreen.
the vivid descriptions of food were one of my favorite part of the books tbh! katniss LOVED food hahahah
They should've casted the muddy bread as peeta!
Lmaoo especially her lamb rice stew thing
That’s why it’s called the Hunger Games
@young neil saaaame. my fat ass still gets annoyed when i start a new book and realize that the author isn’t hella descriptive of the food :((
“Are you sad because she kissed someone who’s shorter than her” aight we starting off strong
hehehe
No lie I thought the same thing and then laughed way harder the second time, when we actually got to the point in the video and was like..... How?
I literally just heard it and went -oop , new subscriber
*"SIMBA"*
cindy i laughed so hard i actually started crying lol also you missed your chance to say "simp-a"
Dang ur right!!
I laughed so hard oh my god. I immediately went to the comments and was so surprised this didn’t have more likes.
Alternate Title: Cindy trashing Peeta for being a simp whilst simping for Thresh and Cinna.
Yes and?
Seriously, though, Rue's whole character arc was excellent in the book and actually explained why she wanted to hang with Katniss and why she wanted her to sing, but the movie was like "here have one 2 minute scene with Katniss and Rue together to establish their relationship. Now feel something when she dies."
oh i didnt know she had more going on with her in the books!
Yeah, like you find out she's so good at climbing and moving through trees because she was in charge of sending messages to workers in the orchards back home. And the whistle she uses to communicate with Katniss is the signal she would use to tell people the work day was over and all the Mockingjays would spread it throughout the fields. And singing was like their only source of entertainment while they worked so songs and singing were really important to them. But lol all of that was glossed over in the movie and she was just kind of reduced to a poorly executed tear-jerker moment...
And yet I still cried
edit: she has grey eyes my mistake 😔
the way they turned “olive skinned, brown eyed, dark haired 16 year old” katniss into jennifer lawrence with brown hair will never fail to grind my gears...it was obvious in the book that the richer people in district 12 had blonde hair, blue eyes and pale skin like her mother and peeta :))) katniss constantly describes herself as looking like a “typical Seam resident” as well as Gale.
it’s how they convinced the Capitol they were cousins
plus when they completely wrote out Peeta losing his leg and having a prosthetic after the 2nd book
i think the aging up of Katniss really ruined that whole love triangle, the point in the books seemed to be that she wasn’t interested in both in the first book, in the second she fell in love with the idea of distancing herself from the Capitol and marrying Gale like expected , in the second half of Catching Fire and the third book she realised that Gale could never understand what she had been through and Peeta felt her pain.
to Katniss it wasn’t “which cute boy” but which life she would choose, to try and forget and be a tradwife or move forward and try to heal
i don’t think people give enough credit to Gale turning her down to fight for other people either. despite him being almost weirdly groomed by President Coin into doing uncharacteristic things
thats too much nuance for this movie
readwithcindy ITS MY ONE FRANCHISE I WILL DEFEND WITH MY LIFE CINDY!! IT GOT TWILIGHT CRITICISM FOR NO REASON 😔😔
Man thank you that's what I kept telling everyone. Race factors into the poverty issue so hard. But also the white washing of all the districts is weird af. Like the movies really made a whole district black and think that wouldn't come off as racist af. It felt like some weird form of segregation where all the black people were put together for no reason especially as that wasn't how it was in the books. Reading the book first and then watching this film was my worst mistake. I left the movies mad.
But for real all the things they skipped sometimes frustrates me because it adds more to how awful this world and their lives really are and explains so many things that lack context because they werent shown well like not including the girl who escaped in the ending of the first book.
Omg yes! It is a wonderful dystopy that is so nuanced and layered.
Also they rarely give olive skin to any character?? (All white characters are pale usually. I don't really know if Katniss is white though, she might be mixed)
I don't even think it's the fault of the movies. It was more clear in the books because we got to look inside her head, but even in the movies she never seemed particularly interested in Peeta or Gale romantically. And her "happily ever after" featured war flashbacks.
I think the issue is that people watching it only saw "YA", "female protagonist", and "love triangle" and immediately came to the conclusion that it was frilly wish fulfilment garbage. Because anything teen girls like is obviously trash.
She was digging through the trash 😭looking for food cuz her mom was an alcoholic going through depression neglecting her daughters😭the mom was yelling at her to leave and she sat out in the rain begging cuz she had no where else to find food. And Peeta was being beat for “burning” the bread and it was all done on purpose to give her the bread to eat 😭😭
yeah Peeta's mother was hinted to be pretty abusive towards him and incredibly mean spirited.
I read somewhere that the mother was so happy that their district may win this time because of certain someone in front of his face. I think that basically implied how she felt for him.
No shade but why does Petta look like the blonde version of Tom Holland
💀
HOW TO UNSEE
i think it's the permanent surprised pikachu face that sells it
He even auditioned for spiderman I think
@@doritamills oh i never knew that
Your comments make me think of how when this movie came out, there was a controversy over how Jennifer Lawrence was cast instead of a POC because the description of Katniss in the book leads the reader to believe that she is of mixed heritage. The book even goes into the class distinctions between the citizens in District 12 and how their features differentiate from each other. It's why Katniss's mom has fair skin and blonde hair because she was from the "upper class" while Katniss's father was from the "lower class".
interesting!!
Omg flashbacks
I thought I made it up she was mixed race. Good to know that was actually in the books.
I wonder if Cinna's back hurts after carrying the whole trilogy.
it prob does
he really did carry it... even after he died
Mockingjay just explained anything pretty or high tech by saying Cinna did it before he died
Nah, he had Finnick Odair to help
Gracee Lathrop Cinna, Finnick, and Joanna all carried this trilogy and they need their coin and recognition immediately ✨✨
I can't stand all this peeta shade, he's honestly too good for katniss and you can't change my mind
Facts even Haymitch told Katniss that she could live 100 lifetimes and never deserve Peeta
@@angelicordelia8041 yes
@@angelicordelia8041 IKR because if anyone with the right sense of mind just read the book, they would understand that Peeta's love for Katniss is genuine and he's a really good guy. Better than Gale who was a rock btw. And not to mention that 'thing' he caused in Mockingjay.
exactly!! Peeta was sooooo amazing. and he was perfect for her. she needed someone stable and kind for her to rely on and he became that for her. katniss grew to love him. she realized that she wouldn’t be able to live without him so she did everything she could to protect him. i love them together
COULDNT AGREE MORE !!!!
✨ normalise snapping your partner's neck when they don't contribute to the group project ✨
im emailing this to my lawyer
cindy talking about how they should've hired a native american actress instead is galaxy brain we would've had flying cars by now if cindy was in charge of hollywood.
we could've had it all....
@@El-bk2ow Wait wait wait...she was? Where???
@@addyrovirosa1800 the entire video lmao she starts at 2:54 and mentions it a couple more times after that throughout the video
I'd settle for a good public transit system, tbh. 🙃
Really tho! That comment brought me back to being a fan of the books waiting to see who they casted and ultimately disappointed because the books described Katniss as “olive skinned” which Jlaw isn’t. I expected a WOC instead.
alternate title: cindy calling peeta a simp while simping over thresh for 25 minutes
if thresh had played peeta instead, things woulda been different...
Thresh deserves it he is the best
Peeta is one of the best romantic interests in books and on screen. He was a cool dude. Gale was hot garbage to begin with. He had 16 years to shoot his shot and got mad when she seemed happy with someone else. The toxicity.
I’m so glad you mentioned this😂😭 Like, The Hunger Games (all three books and all four movies) are BLATANT allegories and allusions and for them to be so white centric is beyond me. People stan dystopian rebellion narratives, but when they happen in real life with real people, the oppressed (black ppl specifically) are basically told to stfu. I’m tired 😭🤦🏾♀️
OMG THIS 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 people are really out here crapping on these protests, but were cheering for everyone in district 11 for rioting when Rue died. Like, pick your player; are you dumb or stupid 🙄 are you with it or are you not? But yess, your comment made me excited because I was waiting for someone to bring this up ✨✨
Looks like in the absence of Christianity sjws have made fiction books their religion
“This video is sponsored by SparkNotes”
What are you talking about this whole movie is sponsored by SparkNotes
i hope sparknotes sponsors me next
lmfao underrated comment
Literally though, the movie takes out soooo much detail and nuance...so many criticisms cindy had during this (which are valid in the context of watching the movie) are actually explained in the book
Cindy: *makes fun of Peeta's simping*
Also cindy: *immediately simps for the actor of Thresh*
yes and???
Well I mean who didn't
"I just can't afford to think like that" is a boss line and would've hit so much harder w/ a POC saying it.
Thats racist 😝
@@ryanmalarik4398 I'm diné but ok
I love Peeta because I am SO tired of emotionless male characters who solve everything with violence. I'd take a sensitive sweetheart over that any day.
YES!
And the way people make fun of him (ik it’s a joke but still) really shows that people can’t handle anything more than the carbon copy of EVERY emotionless, toxic love interest. It kinda sucks tbh that we don’t see more characters like him
the same reason why I love stefan salvatore
the hunger games features genuine, self-sacrificing love between siblings, and for that, i believe it qualifies as fantasy.
u right
Couldn't agree more
But like, here me out- I know my younger sister would die, I also know I would die. But if I was in the hunger games, you bet I’m going out making a big social statement. And be honored as a hero for volunteering.
And that one percent chance I manage to just find a nice cave and sleep the entire time, and survive. The I’m living that sweet life.
@@fabuloushatlady7812 you know that's what i thought i would do when i first read the concept for the book, but then these dudes have cameras all over and chuck balls of fire or skin burning gas if you're being boring :/
Rachel Varghese, yeah... and by this point I don’t mind for death, like it would be nice to love, but if I die it’s oh well. I’ll just pull a Peet’s, hide so good they can’t find me. And nap until my teammates all kill each other. Of course I’ll refuse to kill (unless it’s a mercy kill and it’s better for them) and whenever I’m on stage I would be a bench to the capital people. Set the sparks of rebellion a flame.
Gale: So... I've been thinking...
Katniss: About what?
Gale: Murder is kinda uncool
Katniss: 😍😍😘😘😘😍😍😍🤩😘😍
WOKE KING
hes ok with war crimes though ☺️😋
@@polarbearsss lmfao right 😭
Rhysand is nothing compared to the woke king that is Gale
@@polarbearsss Yeah, if it's bombs on capital kids instead on hunger games with district kids he's totally fine with murder.
Cindy when you said, "you're in poverty you can't afford to give away your pin for free." As a poor myself I have to say, I give away shit all the time to those in need and so do my poor neighbors. Just yesterday she gave me a stack of pencils for my daughter whose just learning to write and I gave her a box of capri-suns I got on discount. We give each other things all the time. I barely have enough to feed myself and my kids. We struggle out here but we don't hold on to shit. Desperation is shared and when you give out blessings to the world you get it back. Amen.
thats awesome that your community can help each other out like that, i hope yours and your communitys situation improves!
When my mother and father were doing badly early on in their marriage, they gave away a computer they really couldn't afford so that their friend's daughter didn't have to walk to the library in the dark by herself. Human kindness is not a plot hole. There's no one with community and compassion like people who know the struggle.
It's usually the poorest ones that are the most generous, let's be honest here. They give even when they don't have much and that makes it so much more meaningful. While on the other hand, people who have more tend to be far less generous and more careful about the benefits they might gain
my only flex as a 5’1” girl is when i looked up josh hutcherson’s height (5’7”), I went “oh, he’s tall!”
bro same everyone be like "he is so shorttt!!" and I'm like tf he is so talll compared to me!!
Samee 😁
literally like what am i grumpy from snow white?
no, he is actually 5'5 or 5'6
He’s 5’5 but ig it still counts
The whole time I was watching the movie, all i could think was that Katniss, Peeta and Gale look too healthy to play characters living in extreme poverty.
truuuuu
I think Jennifer Lawrence said in an interview that she didn't want Katniss to be too thin because many girls would be looking up to her, and didn't want any of them to starve themselves trying to look like Katniss
@@caminunez8482 ofc no one wants a starved actor on screen to influence young people. But it was the equivalent of casting Timothee a chamalet as Thor. Just doesn’t make sense. I saw a comment that said Naya Rivera was almost cast as Katniss. Now that would’ve been more fitting
Kind of wish the movie makers included that scene in the book where Katniss rips Peeta’s heart out on the train back when she tells him it was all an act...
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AWESOME
it would’ve helped with the second movie showing why they were so cold toward each other
They didn't?? Damn, did I imagine a whole scene when I watched the movie?
Arianna Howard There was a scene on the train on the way back to district 12 but it was basically just,
“What do we do now?”
“I guess we just try to forget.”
Or something along those lines. It didn’t include Katniss telling Peeta the whole thing was an act.
@@joshwill3941 I think that's because most people understand the subtext... and the acting was great. You can tell that what Katniss means is "I want to forget about everything that happened in the games, including our fake romance" and the look on Peeta's face makes it crystal clear that he understands exactly what she means by that.
I watched the movies before I read the books, and I totally got all of that from that one line and Peeta's reaction.
Peeta invented being a soft boi but y’all ain’t ready for that conversation
Peeta caught bodies nigga fuck you talking about soft...
Literally. He shaped my type of men from a very young age and I cannot stand most love interests cos the toxic masculinity is just 🤢
Can we normalise dating shorter men in 2020?!
Also for all people talk about wanting to date nice and sensitive guys... Welll PEETA is one!
We stan peeta mellark in this house.
Say it louder for those in the back!👏👏👏
I love Peeta so much and the comments about him in this video were so sad to hear for me lol 😂
Peeta is literally 6 ft in the books 😭
@@muskaan3711 lmao frr but I don't even mind Peeta being short in the movie because I love Josh Hutcherson
We are still normalizing it in 2021?🥰
I love how both Peeta and Gale are conventionally attractive yet so boring.
yawn
Like a beautifully decorated cake that’s filled with cardboard on the inside
These poor kids who are extremely attractive yet live in environments where starving to death is common enough that volunteering and putting your card into a bowl of inevitable death multiple times in exchange of food.
Will someone just think of the children?
@@vcagande7998 or a beautifully decorated cardboard with cake inside. everything is cake. its all cake.
Comphet in a nutshell lmao.
Cindy: she's just making VANILLA ASS jokes and everyone's laughing. Such an easy crowd.
All 215k of us Unsubscribers: 👀 WE LOVE OUR QUEEN.
if i were getting interviewed the crowd would be dead silent
readwithcindy I would cheer
@@withcindy dw, you have us simping for you
As a native woman, I really appreciate someone with such a large platform raising awareness for us ❤️
Of course 😊
I will not stand for this peeta slander😤 he may be a simp but he’s our short king
Okay imagine how sick the whole movie would be if Katniss just killed Peeta while he was sleeping in the cave
that'd be metal AF
Id love that
Few other things I thought of:
1. Peeta and Gale are way more interesting in the books. I actually liked how the author approached the relationships. Gale had a promising start as the romantic lead, but I got the feeling they ended up wanting different things out of life as time went on, he couldn't deal with her post-war PTSD and depression, and he had major resentment issues over Peeta. It got very toxic very fast. They way downplayed Peeta.
2. Peeta and Katniss had more chemistry in the book. He was generally more charismatic and less of an airhead. I felt genuine friendship, or at least the start of it, develop between them over the first book. I can't say whether or not she truly fell in love with him by the series' end, but there is no question of his devotion to her. I get why they ended up together and if that brings her some happiness I can't complain.
3. Katniss mother has a whole backstory. The short version is that she has severe depression and is almost always emotionally checked out. This is a major criticism Katniss has, as it forced her to be the adult/parent running the household at an early age. It is also a contributing factor to her own lack of reactivity to anything and heavily stunted emotions.
4. The other kids in the games weren't so cartoonishly evil. They weren't exactly good people you were rooting for, but a lot of their behavior was purely practical. They were survivalists first.
5. The choice to let them both win was a split-second decision on the part of the host, likely to please the capitol's upper class citizens and the districts. President Snow confirms that he disapproved and the movie reasonably hinted that he ordered the host to be killed.
6. The book description of Katniss is ethnically ambiguous, so making her mixed or having a minority actress could have been a neat way to add layers of subtext in the movie that weren't in the book. I remember people throwing a fit over whether or not she was white before the film came out though. People were also concerned about how they would portray a minority if they went it that direction. I wouldn't be surprised if Hollywood saw all that and decided it was safer to go with the white actress anyway.
Sarah Taylor amen
this
@Bille Nye The Russian Spy I'll admit that I was a little surprised when Rue was black. I tend to skim over physical descriptions and just assign them myself based on who I know in real life (I'm a speed reader/skimmer), so I pictured them both as looking like my little sister at that age because that's the whole parallel between the two characters and I'm the same age gap as Katniss and Prim/Rue, so i couldnt tell you how they were described in the books. But I didn't understand why it was such a big deal that Rue wasn't white or whatever. I thought it added a little bit of layers to the movie, where they weren't just segregated by class, but also race. I just wish they had done a bit more with it if they were going to call attention to the segregation in the film
Im pretty sure the book said that Katniss had olive skin and long dark hair
Amen. I only read the first two books, but Peeta felt so much less like a McGuffin and more like an actually valuable asset. He was valuable because he was charismatic and likable, which the rebels could use to convince people, but in the movies they portray a blonde simp pretty boy who they decided to save from the capitol because reasons. I enjoyed the movies, but they could have done better.
The movies also left out that Peeta became an amputee because of the leg wound. It was a big plot point in the books, Katniss was so guilty about it and it was one of the reasons she was so insistent that Peeta win the games in the second book, plus it’s repeatedly brought up that the artificial leg made him walk loudly so it made stealth harder.
Yeah idk why they cut that
As a Native American, I approve. Also, a guy in my theater literally screamed "Edward" when Peeta talked about following Katniss home. Good memories 😂
"The Gamemakers are like when you play the Sims and get bored and you set their whole house on fire." I've never felt so attacked. 🤣
that is also how i play the sims
That’s just 2020 in a nutshell...
🤣🤣🤣🤣
okay so what i’ve learnt is if youtubers were put into the games cindy would win by a landslide bc girl is cashing in her sponsorships and i’m living for it
heck yeah i would
The Hunger Games:
Peeta: Wow she really DOES love me
Katniss: Wow Peeta’s a REALLY good actor
That’s it, that’s the whole thing
🤣🤣🤣
PLS THATS LITERALLY EXACTLY HOW IT WAS😭😭and its so funny cause shes _always_ scheming which i love but she just assumes that everyone else is the same so she sees everything peeta does as some kind of a trick lmfaoooo i love her
The relationship between Katniss and Prim is more than just sisterhood, Katniss thinks of Prim as her daughter at some point because she had to raise her while her mom had emotional issues.
That is why is so heartwrecking when you know who died and Katniss doesn't have anything worth fighting for anymore😭
I still cannot forgive them for killing off Prim😭
I seriously prefer watching you reacting to movies rather than watching them myself.
haha im honored!
Me tooooo
Same!
Peeta is a short king. He threw Katniss some bread. Idk about you but if a guy throws me bread we're mating for lyfe.
raise ur standards pls
@@withcindy 🍞 🍞 🍞
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@@gnatnevlik9249 omgosh haha im totally a duck
Let’s get this bread
peeta's face when he gets shoved against the wall is the key piece of evidence in my theory that Peeta wants to get pegged in this essay I will-
The way I hollered when I read this comment!! I nearly sharted myself. Believe me, I've had a few of those guys in my life and boy, they all have the exact same look right before they're slammed. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
They really should've cast younger so that the whole movie would be as disturbing as Rue's death
Liam Hemsworth playing Gale is the only reason some of us shipped him with Katniss
Truth
Nah, I ship him with me
I am dangerously in love w Liam/Gale! ❤️ and I didn’t really notice Thresh in the movie (too busy looking for Gale lol!) but he is very handsome!
The queen has served us this fine day😌
She has made it a fine day 😊
it's a fine day to make fun of simps
I what there to be a Karen in the Hungry Games now 🤭
"No, no, no! You will not put my daughter in those RATCHET games! Where is the manager? Where is the manager!"
Peeta is amazing. He loves katniss’s unconditionally, will help her when she needs it, and they can comfort each other when they have nightmares.
The second movie really shows katniss loving peeta back. She is just as patient with Peeta as he is with her.
I don’t need to make this longer than it needs to be, but they have a true love and I don’t care who disagrees with me.
Movie flame does a great job explaining how peeta is the best and shows the evolution of their relationship through the films and books.
The Hunger Games book trilogy was one of the smartest I've ever read in the way it critiqued American society. We underappreciated it for the romance.
i agree!
ABSOLUTELY. I wrote my junior year paper on this trilogy and all the important messages it was able to portray to a younger AND older audience. And I made the point of how society treated this story the EXACT same way that the watchers in the Capitol did. How we as an audience focused so much on "romance" and arguing about who was "better for her" that we willingly turned a blind eye to the actual point. 👏🏻
Yes yes yes, the romance and the perfect rebellious hero, because that's what people want to see.
When in fact the point of the books was to show that both sides are kind of evil, war is awful, mostly just propaganda, and Katniss was just used for that.
And for the romance part, she was mostly just thinking that she didn't have the time or nerve to think about it, and was annoyed to be pressured to make a decision, what a queen
Iconic comment
dude yes!! it was all so so nuanced but the moment i got it was when the author made the leader of the rebellion just as awful as the main villain. like- damn, that rlly hit.
"You root for your favourites, you cry when they get killed" I'm pretty sure Gale just summed up every Fandom ever 😂😁😊❤
gale is a fanboy
Cindy: This movie needed more diversity.
Me: Why do you want more dead POC on-screen Cindy?
the main characters dont die!!
I've always liked how the abusive parent for Peeta was his mom, not his dad, as is always shown in books and movies. It's very realistic, actually, the dynamic between Peeta and his parents. His dad seems to hate the abuse, but is still with his wife despite what she's like.
"I can't tell who is who."
all you need to do is shoot the one that is one head taller than the other no biggie
My God you're right
"I can't tell who is who"
This is so relatable tho. As an asian person i fucking swear i absolutely CANNOT differentiate three protagonists of Pacific Rim
Like every white blonde boy is just the same fucking face over an over again
still to this day i have no idea where tf he got the materials to turn himself INTO A ROCK. like tf did haymitch send you prosthetics whats good
his artistic talent knows no bounds
I think it was said that they knew they had to stop Katniss and Peeta from killing themselves because it would look like a giant "FUCK YOU” to the Capitol: "If you won’t have both of us then you will get none”
They refused to kill each other and by suicide they would not only deprive the Capitol from their Victor but also show that they don’t have to play by Snow’s rules
Correct me if I'm wrong but I could have sworn in the books that Katniss and everyone else in district 12 had a tan skin complexion other than her mother and sister.
It was actually divided, Peetas family was also white and blond, but yea in the book Katniss and a good 60% of that district is described as having olive skin, thanks for fucking that up Hollywood
But olive skin is still white, like Mediterranean looking, and grey eyes are still light.
I was afraid it might be a term we only associated with brown skin in my country and yall might not have the same definition in other places, but google told me "Olive skin is a human skin colour spectrum. It is often associated with pigmentation in the Type III to Type IV and Type V ranges of the Fitzpatrick scale. It generally refers to light or moderate brown, brownish, or tan skin, and it is often described as having yellow, green, or golden undertones."
So yea ;; not really _white_ white per se, and even then if someone does wanna see as just tan, Jennifer is a gem and i love her, but she is dead pale in that movie oof
@@bellsthesultana yeah, she's way too pale to be an pitch perfect match for Katniss. But I think that other than her skin tone, that should have been more tan, and her height/weight (Katniss is supposedly short and kinda petite), Jennifer sufficiently resembles the character (grey eyes and dark hair). I also don't get those that dislike her interpretation. She is Katniss, to me.
There was an "upper class) called the Merchants, and a "lower class) called the Seam. The Merchants usually had blonde hair and light colored eyes, and the Seam almost always had olive-skin, darker hair and gray-ish eyes
War flashbacks to all the teenage girls who constantly used "I volunteer as tribute" in their social media jokes....including me
2012 flashbacks
Also, to answer your question about why dont they die together: it's because people in the capital are also betting on who is going to win in the hunger games so if both of them die, everyone in the capital is going to riot because technically no one won so the organizer had to stop it. Also, if they both died together, it might cause a domino effect and set an example for other district tributes to die together without an actual winner, causing more dissatisfaction in the capital gamblers.
I can't believe I used my brain cells to think this through than doing smth actually productive huhus
Joanna Mayol that and snow bangs on about hope. If they both died hope gone the end. With a bit of hope they drudge along in their lives - much like capitalism yay
when cindy said, “um, edward cullen who??” i suddenly remembered the fact that edward took the engine out of bella’s truck so she couldn’t leave and honestly why couldn’t twilight have been about alice and jasper instead of this toxic abusive relationship presented as romance
he did WHAT
readwithcindy I KNOW!! i forgot about it until i saw a tiktok which reminded me and honestly i’m disgusted
wasn't jasper a confederate soldier tho
Meg Conquest he was and that’s disgusting, esp since that’s glossed over so quickly, but i saw someone say sth that i agree with which is that all the cullens would probably have racism to unlearn. i don’t think jasper would be the only one with a racist past you know??
@@milliaboo765 fair but making him the protag is still kinda :/// to me
“Sponsors where are you?” *immediately gets an ad*
Noice
Peeta and Gale together basically could combine to form one full YA love interest. Gale has all the possessiveness and fake woke vibes, and Peeta has the tender, nice-guy energy that's supposed to make us forgive the abusive part.
More importantly, I really appreciate you calling attention to the plight of indigenous people in the US
Of course 😊
"This film is sponsored by sparknotes because we were too lazy to actually show the background story."
Best response to lazy exposition 😂😂
sparknotes better sponsor my vids next
imagine not simpimg for katniss tho??? she’s so badass like......?? i love her
peeta has taste
Exactly 😍
@@withcindy a simp with taste is still a simp lol
"Dude, honestly, he's kinda cute" like she hasn't been saying it since his first appearance. 😂
hehehe
All the token minority’s in the background while the main cast is all mayonnaise on white bread
>Katniss should be played by an indigenous actress
So Scarlett Johansson?
i---
In a black wig obviously
She's Asian ugh
Emma stone, obvi
I _wish_ ScarJo played Katniss, it would've been great to have an Asian protag
All I remember is Katniss just never being into either of them
good for her
Did you read the books?
@@lexserenity they clearly didn't
11:09 this is actually a nice scene between Peeta and Katniss that the movie didn't execute well. In the books Katniss father had died and her mother got depression. Due to her Mom's depression she wasn't working meaning that there was no money for any food. In attempt to keep her family from dying from starvation Katniss goes to the bakery Peeta works at in hopes in finding food for her family. Peeta's mom finds Katniss digging in the trash and shoos her away. Katniss loses all hope and sits in the rain wondering how she is going to get food for her sister and mom. Peeta saw the commotion going on with his Mom and Katniss and goes ahead and burns bread on purpose so he has an excuse to take out the bread to give it to Katniss. Peeta mom sees that he burnt the bread and gives Peeta a black eye because anyways the Mellark family worked at the bakery they were tight on money and needed to sell all their food. So when Peeta's mom looks aways Peeta takes the bread and throws it to Katniss real quick. This gesture saved Katniss and her family and this moment Katniss had with Peeta was very meaningful to her.
Also at 21:30 Idk why the movie made Peeta say that! In the books he never said he watched Katniss every day. In the books Katniss asks Peeta when he decided he liked her and Peeta said when they were in elementary and he heard her sing and how the birds stopped to listen and that’s when he knew he was goner. Then Katniss ask, “so you never noticed any other girls?” And Peeta replies with, “I did but they never made an lasting impression like you.” Honesty the books are so much better and the movie butchered Peeta’s character
It’s a sad day for liking Peeta
"for a society that's so advanced they're way behind on ergonomics"
they sleep on concrete slabs.. what do they care for scoliosis 😭
hilarious as usual!!
they need to reconsider their furniture design
I’m the books Katniss, Gale, Haymitch, and many others in the seam were described with olive skin and grey eyes so it could make sense if they came from Native American descent. And many people from the merchant section. Of the district had Blue eyes and blond hair so in the book there was some sort of line between the rich (but still poor) and the very poor
Also, the flashback scene is from when Katniss and her family almost died from starvation and she was trying to sell baby cloths for money for food. She was so tired she fell to her knees infront of the bakery where peeta saw her. So he burned the bread a little so he’d have to take it out. There he threw it to Katniss and she took and it saved her from dying. And then the next day it turns out he was beat for doing that by his mother.
This was my first video I’ve seen from you and it’s super great so far!
I'd love a TV series where they have the first season be dedicated to the backstory of Katniss's relationship with her family (including before and after her father's death) and others. This would explain so much for later parts of the series.
"this is the hunger games not the frat boy games"
"he looks like he auditioned for Peeta and didn't get it"
😂😂😂
Cindy, outchea coming for my man Alexander! Still love her!
'' i'm here to hit it, and quit it''
Honestly, this right there is why people HATE katniss and say all she ever did was getting played like a pawn and just go with the flow...
BUT HERE I AM, loving her for it?!?! For once we have a 16yo protagonist who did not ask for any of it, and actually only wanted to live her life and later on wanted her sister and peeta safe and didn't give 2 fucks about the revolution.
THAT'S precisely the reason i love.
no one:
not a damn soul:
cindy: HOLLYWOOD ISNT READY
hollywood is full of cowards
I mean she is not wrong tho
"I wish Katniss had been played by a Native American actress." 💯 I always pictured her as such and it would be awesome for us to get some good representation.
yesss!!
Is no one gonna talk about how Katniss is supposed to have olive skin and black hair?
In classic literature olive skin tone was used to describe Italians. So they had Katniss look a bit tan
@@kairossnt olive doesn't necessarily mean dark. It's a skin tone that comes in ranges and is especially common in the Mediterranean. You can be pale and have an olive toned complexion, your undertones are just yellowy/greenish. Same goes for black hair/dark eyes.
literally she should be portrayed by devery jacobs if there's a better remake.
i always thought it was funny that lenny kravitz and his daughter were in competing book adaptation franchises