Kings Dominion New for 2025 Coaster - Update 07-02-24
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- čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
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In this coaster update, I talk about the recent merge finalization between Cedar Fair and Six Flags, and take a look at Kings Dominion’s new for 2025 B&M coaster construction!
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As a former welder for B&M, I’m assuring you all, these are the Mercedes Benz of roller coasters. From fabrication through paint, these coasters are extremely well built and meticulously monitored during the building process. Each coaster they produce is truly a work of art. Best in the business IMO.
@@whisperingbuckeye that’s so cool! What coasters did you work on????
@@CoastinWithQuayz we never knew which ones we were building. It’s an amazing process though.
@@whisperingbuckeye that’s so cool! I live like 20 minutes from Philadelphia Toboggan Coaster Company. I would love to get a tour of their place sometime. I’m fascinated by the construction and engineering side of coasters.
@@CoastinWithQuayz we had a crew from TLC come in and done a show. I believe it was called roller coaster wars. It was around 2005-06. I’m sure there is a lot of videos about where B&M tracks are built. Just search Clermont Steel Fabricators on CZcams. The plant is in Batavia, Ohio. It really was an awesome job experience. I’m glad I was apart of it.
Nice, I'm a welder and always wanted to fabricate coaster track!
So glad its not orange!
I love the build up parks do for their new rides! I can’t wait to see where Cedar Point starts putting up fences. I’m pretty sure I know where it’s going
I love the coloration of the new ride!!!
Canada’s Wonderland 2025 coaster will be a Premier lsm coaster
Wing coasters are so average but popular and considering how intense the top 2 rides are at kinds dominion, i think this ride type will perfectly serve the public in much the same way a dive would
@@davidnevolo4402 I’m really excited for this ride! I agree that this will serve the public very well. I think this is going to be a fan favorite for sure. Even though they are not super intense, I really enjoy wing coasters. I’m hoping this has some “near miss” elements like GateKeeper at Cedar Point. Those keyholes are awesome!
@CoastinWithQuayz yea seems like people love these! I love the old inverted coasters for their inensity but theres no denying how popular a ride like x flight is at great america for example. And again since the park already has one of the most intense coasters on the planet, this really will fillva gap in the lineup. Excited to see it all come together.
@@davidnevolo4402 And, since there is only 1 launched wing in America this will be new to a lot of folks. It will be interesting to see how many risks Kings Dominion takes with this. They historically to like to go for it. Swing for the fences. I think this is why we had to wait so long and be placated with Tumbili. Not, that I dislike the T. We all wanted something big and unique. I do like how Kings Dominion is letting social media fan the flames of anticipation for this ride though. Quite clever!
Being launched with a dip in the launch track will give it more thrill than a lift hill, I’m assuming. I haven’t actually been on a wing model as of yet, but I will next year.
@scottnelson9 people seem to like them i guess. Im at the point though with b and m where i feel like, the ride system and seating position doesnt matter if they are gonna design everything to end up with roughly the same force profile. The flying coaster is awesome when done right, hyper is their standout model, and inverts are frankly the most fun, fast paced, and intense of them all.
So they got the wing coaster and wonderland got stuck with a launch coaster by premiere
YESS LETS FREAKING GO
I would have used Cedar Flags my number 1 is Twisted Timbers 2 Project 305 3 Dominator
@@michaelwise6020 cedar flags would have been cool! That’s what I would have preferred as well.
Clever thumbnail!
Just walk to Flight of Fear and you can see everything over the fence on that side.
I hope it's not a slow wing coaster like the one at Cedar Point. It was fun but not thrilling.
@@OneAdam12Adam I love GateKeeper at Cedar Point, but I totally understand what you mean about it not really being thrilling. Since the KD wing coaster will be launched, I think it may be closer to what you are looking for. I think it will be more like Thunderbird at Holiday World.
It needs the length of gatekeeper with the thrill of thunderbird
@@jasonhenage4944 I like the way you are thinking!!!!
@@jasonhenage4944 Kings Dominion also knows that they are competing with the legacy of Volcano. It launched to 72mph. I am very interested in seeing what this does. The tech has advanced since Thunderbird.
Yeah, dinosaurs don’t make sense in a current jungle theme, but since raptors are the only Dino species which actually adapted, “b, b, b bird, bird, bird, b bird is the word!”.
@@scottnelson9 yeah I get that. Maybe a pterodactyl? lol. A bird would make sense. So many wing coasters are themed to birds.
W b&m
I’m not impressed with the BM wing launch coaster. Nothing will replace the volcano. The blast coaster I live in Maryland if I go to parks, I will go up to Pennsylvania to Hersheypark. Better rides better food overall better experience. !!!!!!
"Control" is not a good word. Based on the titles post merger, Cedar Fair execs are running day-to-day. Six Flags former CEO is chairman of the board. At the end of the day, the Board is the group with final say on everything.
@@rantanamo the board is split 50/50. I think putting the six flags old CEO as chairman of the board was to actually kinda keep him out of most of the decision making. Chairman of the board is kinda a formality. The board makes decisions collectively. With the board being half cedar fair and half six flags, plus all the main leadership being cedar fair execs, plus all of the headquarters being both of the cedar fair headquarters, it is clear that cedar fair is making the decisions for this company.
The only reason the name is staying “Six Flags” is because if you say, “hey, I’m going to a six flags park,” people know that name in the general population. If you say, “hey I’m going to a cedar fair park,” people don’t know what that means in the general population.
You don't know how corporations work. Cedar Fair is running everything. 10 of the 11 executive team are Cedar Fair people. The 1 SF person is the integration officer, a made of title for first 1 or 2 years of the merger. All the SF people in the equivalent position lost their positions in the merger. The CEO runs a company along with the CFO. COO, f etc. The CEO in particular makes the key day to day to operational decisions, visions, guidance, etc.... To make it simple since you don't know business, There is a reason everyone knows whom Bob Iger is, CEO of Disney, he left for Chapek and Iger came back. Guarantee 1 in 1000 people know whom the Chairman of the Board of Disney without Googling it, You are probably Googling it at this moment. Disney's results are based on Iger's decisions making and when they don't meet expectations Iger gets the blame. Chairman just sit in the background and actually do very little , they really just massage major shareholders mostly. They attend a handful of meeting a year and possibly if things go really poorly can get the Board to vote out the CEO. Meanwhile the CEO and the executive team are the actual one's that determine the success or failure of a company and handle day to day operational issues, decisions, etc...(THESE ARE 10 of 11 CF PEOPLE ). FYI, Selim is a clueless wonder and everyone knows it, he was given the Chairman title to sideline him from making any more horrible decisions which he has made with SF. The guy knows nothing about the theme park industry. He ran SF into the ground to the point that SF needed to merge and have CF management take over, This was not a merger of equals. I know finance and business. An actual equal merger doesn't have the executive team be 10 of 11 lopsided for one side and all of one sides people fired. That happens when a company is acquired and/or is in managerial/financial trouble thus has no leverage to keep their executes b/c they have proven to be subpar, which SF's were.
worst possible replacement for volcano imo
You mean that ride that w a s awesome 25 years ago, but kept breaking down. Always had a line 3 hours long since it could only hold 16 people and lunched a car once every 10 minutes.? That one? It WAS awesome. Let it go.
@@derekwalls61 it was a very original and beloved coaster by everyone, I know that functionally it wasn’t good, but they should’ve gone for an original and reliable coaster, instead of a generic and uncomfortable wing coaster that everyone will forget a month after it opens…
They could’ve gone for something creative and innovative and also reliable but they decided to go for something uninteresting and forgettable that is very reliable ☠️
And now they have too.many parks to take care of, so theyre.all going.to go to heck now...except for a few they deem flagships
@@joshfreund6008 we shall see what happens. Since it is the leadership from cedar fair that is essentially taking over the merged company, I have faith. For now, I’m hoping for the best.
I’m pretty sure they know how many parks they have and what it will take. The parks already existed so the human infrastructure is already in place. The legacy 6 Flags parks need help. And, Cedar Fair knows how to do it (if they choose too - BIG IF!) I say that because of the theming they are doing at Kings Dominion. They are going all out at Kings Dominion because of Busch Gardens. Other CF parks don’t get as much love that way if there is no other competition nearby. Look up how the Intimidator roller coaster’s renames are being handled differently at Carowinds and Kings Dominion.😮
So, that concerns me. If the only competition close by is yourself, are you motivated to try? I look at Ohio for hope. CF seemed to want CP and KI to thrive. They can do it. Will they do it elsewhere? I can see them coming with a combo-pass for Kings Dominion and SFA outside of Washington. (I live in VA). But, they’d have to give it to me for free. SFA was the worst major park I’ve ever visited! I didn’t realize how spoiled I was.😕
@@Gheestarr Thanks for your comments!! Carowinds has received tons of money in investment. They’ve re-themed many areas of that park over the last five years. They revamped the back area into the boardwalk and recently transformed Afterburn’s area into Aeronautica. Copperhead Strike also received a ton of theming when that was put in.
I think I305 is getting a full retheme because that area of the park is getting completely rethemed with Jungle Expedition, and the paint job on I305 right now is horrendous.
Carowinds has received far more monetary investment over the last 10 years than Kings Dominion and Carowinds does not have the competition.
@@Gheestarr I don’t think they will pair up just these two parks as single pass. I think you will see three tiers of passes. One that gives you single park entry. One that gives you all the “cedar fair” parks OR all the “six flags” parks. And then a third option that gives you all the parks in the portfolio. How they phrase all that and organize all that needs to be very carefully thought out though.
I believe in traditional amusement parks. Parks that focus on people and families and not on profit. These parks are just coaster parks or thrill parks, over priced games and admission prices along with horrible food it's just coasters. We need more traditional parks not these corporate trash parks. Just my opinion.
@@shawnvancuren6936 I know those family parks you mention. Knoebels and Lake Compounce are definitely that traditional type of park. I think there’s a place for both types though. Cedar Fair has always done a nice job with balancing family attractions and coasters, as well as keeping parks presentable and clean. The food at Kings Dominion is really good. Firehouse BBQ in the planet snoopy area had juicy, fresh cut on the spot brisket as well as a lot of great sides to choose from.
With that said, all of these mergers do make me nervous. Some of the corporations are getting so big that I feel that individual parks may lose their individual personalities and charm if they are not managed well. Thanks for your comment! I appreciate your thoughts!
I don’t get how u can “believe” in something that’s not a religion… it’s an establishment, i promise it’s not that serious. LMAOO 😂😂😂😂
I prefer this type of park over “family” parks any day of the week. Just my opinion.
@@shawnvancuren6936 It’s a business. Businesses are suppose to make profits. What are you talking about? Trust me. Those “traditional amusement parks” have business meetings where they examine profits, how they are going to draw customers and how they will be able to afford to put in a new ride. Or not, and they can become the next Geauga Lake… just keeping it real dude. But, I will do my best to “stay off your grass”.
Season passes.for my family were less than $300, aside from it being an hour and a half drive, it's something we can do as a day trip, and at most we are out $35 for the food pass, and $20 for fuel. You don't have to play the games, you can go out into Doswell and hit up the local Mexican restaurant, or even drive 20 minutes and have access to all of Richmond, or Ruthers Glenn if you want more options.
I do like parks like Knoebels, but they serve different purposes. Same with something like Disney or Universal VS a Cedar Fair Park.
It’s interesting you bring up dropping the name “Six Flags” to the names of the parks because here in Southern California, no one calls it “Six Flags Magic Mountain.” We all call the park “Magic Mountain” without the Six Flags name in it. Lol. We all call it “Magic Mountain” nothing more, nothing less and everyone knows what we mean. 👍🎢
@@mixtapemanny7473 I live close to Six Flags Great Adventure, and it’s the same thing. If someone says let’s go to Great Adventure, we know exactly what they are talking about when they say Great Adventure.
That’s because we grew up with it before six flags bought magic mountain lol it’s always been magic mountain 😂