The Godfather: Part 2 (3/8) Movie CLIP - You're Nothing to Me Now (1974) HD
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Michael (Al Pacino) banishes Fredo (John Cazale) from the family, both in business matters and as a brother.
FILM DESCRIPTION:
Francis Ford Coppola's legendary continuation and sequel to his landmark 1972 film, The Godfather, parallels the young Vito Corleone's rise with his son Michael's spiritual fall, deepening The Godfather's depiction of the dark side of the American dream. In the early 1900s, the child Vito flees his Sicilian village for America after the local Mafia kills his family. Vito (Robert De Niro) struggles to make a living, legally or illegally, for his wife and growing brood in Little Italy, killing the local Black Hand Fanucci (Gastone Moschin) after he demands his customary cut of the tyro's business. With Fanucci gone, Vito's communal stature grows, but it is his family (past and present) who matters most to him -- a familial legacy then upended by Michael's (Al Pacino) business expansion in the 1950s. Now based in Lake Tahoe, Michael conspires to make inroads in Las Vegas and Havana pleasure industries by any means necessary. As he realizes that allies like Hyman Roth (Lee Strasberg) are trying to kill him, the increasingly paranoid Michael also discovers that his ambition has crippled his marriage to Kay (Diane Keaton) and turned his brother, Fredo (John Cazale), against him. Barely escaping a federal indictment, Michael turns his attention to dealing with his enemies, completing his own corruption.
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Cast: John Cazale, Al Pacino
Director: Francis Ford Coppola
Producers: Francis Ford Coppola, Gray Frederickson, Fred Roos, Mona Skager, Robert Evans
Screenwriters: Francis Ford Coppola, Mario Puzo
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Man, that chair looks comfortable.
I Bramblebush LMAO! Them rocking chairs do be comfy though.
I Bramblebush
"He used that chair to make a point in a way I never anticipated." - Francis Ford Coppola on John Cazale and the rocking chair.
Gigi P What was the point?
+I Bramblebush The point was he was a weakling and a moron, so much so that he couldn't even get his chair to work properly. He worked life as well as he did that chair.
+I Bramblebush Indeed.
Funny how the chair rocked/vibrated as he got spastic - only enhancing poor Fredo's ineptitude.
Wonderful acting by Cazale.
John cazale made 5 feature films in his lifetime, all were nominated for best picture and three of them won. What a man
Were they feature films because of him or was it because he landed in good movies? I'm not discrediting him just wondering
Alix McCann in proportion he won more awards than Juventus won CL titles. Awesome. (A Cazale fan and a very bitter Juve fan :( )
Saw John Cazale in GF 1 and 2, Dog Day Afternoon and Deer Hunter. Beautiful job of acting in all 4 by Cazale. Yes, the fact that he was cast in 5 Oscar nominated films speaks to what a quality actor he was. Tragic that he died so young. Had he not died when he did would have gone on to star in many more quality films, won some major awards and probably would have ended up married to Meryl Streep.
The only actor in Hollywood history to have a perfect filmography in 5 crucial 70s movies.
@@yeon723 Yes.
_"He was the greatest actor I ever saw."_ -Al Pacino on John Cazale.
RIP
@andrion waser I think his starking appearance locked him into some specific characters.
John Cazale was wonderful. So sad that he left us so soon.
I was going to upvote this until I saw 666 upvotes..just seemed sort of right for a legend like Cazale..
They both learnt off each other. Cazale was a different breed.
There's an interview with Pacino you can find online where he talks about how John Cazale was such a perfectionist that he demanded several retakes during this scene when he thought he hadn't delivered a line exactly right, even when Pacino and Coppola thought they were good. He knew this was the keystone scene of the movie and that it had to be perfect. I'd say he succeeded.
Do you have an link from that Interview? I am very interested
was his 5 minutes
That's one of the main scenes I quote
That's one of the main speeches I repeat
“That take is the way Coppola wanted it”
“IT AIN’T THE WAY I WANTED IT!!!”
We've all felt like Fredo at least once in our lives.
And some of us cursed with a Fredo in the family have felt like Michael at least once in our lives. Because right now my fucking Fredo is killing me!
I basically am Fredo right now...underappreciated, underestimated, treated like a child. By cousins, siblings, aunts and uncles, you name it.
But if someone gave me a billion dollars tomorrow, they'd all line up to kiss my ass. Fuck this world
Well in all actuality Fredo is an idiot. He almost had michael killed because of his naivety and poor judgement. So are you basically just calling yourself an idiot?
I don't think he's saying he's an idiot. I think he means we have all felt how Fredo feels in this scene.. Underestimated, that everybody think he's an idiot and he gets zero respect.
Max Alonso Ok that makes much more sense when you put it like that
"I'm your older brother Mike and I was stepped over!!" The intensity of that line said it all.
IceveinsProductions As an older brother myself, i can sympathize with that one. Being taken care of by your younger siblings....
As the oldest sibling, you're supposed to be the alpha of the litter. This applies to oldest sisters as well, bur since males tend to be the inherently dominant ones, its even more significant to an oldest brother.
It's like a parent relying on their kids to take care of them.
I wouldnt call it pride based, though that is a part of it.
It goes against the natural order of things. And Its a horrible feeling. :(
Daniel Cannata yeah
I agree that always gets me... More so than "I'm Smart!" .... I'm the youngest of 6 btw 3 girls 3 boys.. oh my name you ask?? You guessed it, MICHAEL.
Fredo's death sentence verdict in essence.
Rastafarian Targaryen lol
The three sons were embodiments of vitos personality. Sonny the violent part michael the intelligent and ruthlessness part and fredo the soft compassionate part. Pure masterpiece
In that case Michael was the only part of Vito that was needed and that could get the job done
@@NOTENOUGHCSH nope the empire was built on favors vito did for people because he had a generous nature. Michael never did favors for anyone
@@noName-kn1lx I kind of spoiled myself because I’m in the middle of part 2 but I was under the impression that Michaels ruthlessness and callus intelligence would expand and make the empire unstoppable
wow I had never thought of that line of thinking brilliant
In the book, it’s actually Sunny who’s the sweet and caring one. He is the one that cares for his family the most-which is the reason he got killed as he tried to beat his sister’s wife beater of a husband. He lets his emotions rule him.
Micheal was cold and the most like Vito, as said by the author himself. He has the silent methodical pace of mind that helped Vito himself create his criminal empire.
Fredo, in the book, was once the strongest of the brothers. But for some reason, implied to be due to trauma when watching his father get shot, he had a psychological breakdown. And when he moved to Vegas he got better, even impressing others. He did well for himself and was even considered magnetic-but he was banging the cocktail waitresses and convinging them to have abortions, which was unforgivable to Vito who still holds Sicilian m/Catholic values. Fredo became the family’s biggest disappointment at that moment. Because he seems to have taken most of his family’s vices without their best strength. He doesn’t have Sunny’s passion which made him a feared Don, nor Micheal’s methodical strategizing that made him the true successor.
The moment Michael turns to Fredo and doesn't even acknowledge what he just said about wanting respect and admiration from his younger brother, and goes straight to what would help him, the investigation, and Fredo just helplessly slumps in his chair.
Absolutely heartbreaking. The opposite of love is not hatred, it's disinterest.
This clip doesn't show this, but at the end Michael says, "I want nothing to happen to Fredo, while my mother is still alive." He didn't say "our mother."
Lake Tahoe ghost?
Michael was a cold mfkr. I understand what Fredo did was unforgivable to Michael,I still feel sorry for him for being manipulated by Roth he was just really stupid and after the attempt on Michael he realized his grave mistake and didn't want to talk to those guys and didn't want anything else from Roth. These are modern Romans vs Jews. Michael was Julius Caesar and Roth a King Solomon. Once again the Romans show their might and defeat their foreign enemies. History repeats itself.
@@itjustlookslikethis He said "my mother" because he was talking to Al Neri. If he said "our mother" it would imply Mama Corleone was Neri's mother too.
He was disinterested in Fredo's bullshit. Fredo didn't accidentally tip an expensive vase over and it broke. Fredo KNEW what he was doing. Pretended he never met Ola back in Cuba.....I can go on but I made my point.
"It's your hairline Fredo, no one can take you seriously."
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💯💯💯. Seriously sonny and Michael had better hairlines then you look at fredo and he looks like a moon
😁🤣
lmfao.
Lol
😂😂😂
I love the use of the chair. No matter how hard he tries to he just can't get up. It's really symbolic for his character. I saw a youtube video about it that explains it. Its brilliant.
+Madz Midz The Every Frame a Painting Video? That was fantastic.
+Madz Midz That's awesome. Great point. Thanks for this comment.
Can you send me the link to the video please? :)
+Kate N it's on the CZcams channel "every frame a painting" really good analysis of furniture in film :)
Thank you x
A generation was robbed of John cazale, what an exceptional actor he was.
Yeah, he would've made the movie world 10x better.
He's damn great actor.
He played a weak, broken character, that tries too hard to show his brother he is something more. His voice, body language, him failing to make a stand up. Perfection.
🐐 actor
What set Cazale apart from so many other actors was his willingness to play a weak man. There are many actors, even great ones, who have no problem playing sociopaths, killers, rapists, but whose vanity or ego won't let them play someone weak. But Cazale would. It's what makes his Fredo so unforgettable.
@@JimmySteller i think Santino was the strongest corleone in the books
It’s easier to relate to a character that’s considered “weak” or being “stepped over”, everyone has felt this way at some point. This performance was ahead of its time.
It was also why he was great in "Dog Day Afternoon."
When you reference all the actors who can't stomach playing a weak character, I can't help but play devil's advocate and ask: such as who? And how do you know? All in good humor, what you say is perfectly logical, I'm just always curious to get to the source of information 😊
I love how his voice breaks when he says: "I'm smart!"
Tries to sound angry while scared shitless...
.. it breaks because he knows there's no truth in what he's saying... He's just smart enough to realize his lot in life. this scene is filmed beautifully. It's Michael standing over top of Fredo, Fredo looking up to Michael as he's saying it.
So wrong
PoweredByAudio scared shitless of his kid brother? Unbelievable lol
A middle aged wimpy bastard. What did Fresno do tho?
Chauncey Perkins He ran the brothel where they set up Senator Geary to wake up w a dead ‘ho in his bed. He also banged cocktail waitresses two at a time-players couldn’t get a drink a the table.
0:52 “That’s the way pop wanted it.”
“IT AIN’T THE WAY I WANTED IT!” That hit hard, you can just hear the pain and sorrow in Fredo’s voice.
I almost cried when he said, "It ain't the way I wanted"
It really IS heart wrenching due to Fredo's, shall we say, disability. He SHOULD have been more important in the family because he was in the life and Michael wasn't. I always felt that may have been the result of his having pneumonia when he was a baby. Perhaps it wasn't really pneumonia and it did some kind of permanent damage. I also can imagine what Vito was feeling when he had to bypass his older son in favor of the one he never wanted in that life. Its just heartbreaking all around. And of course, there is Michael who has Fedro killed and breaks down in front of the cardinal in Rome when he confesses. I will NEVER forget what the cardinal said to Michael. "Your sins are terrible....and it is just that you suffer."
@@joshuatobanus3223 weak men don't understand that it is what it is. And the world is filled mostly of weak man
@@retroguy9494 but they knew he was weak and a weak man can't lead. He doesn't know or doesn't want to accept that(common theme amongst weak men). It's funny how much ego an insecure person has
@@su2004 I think you missed my point. I think the 'weakness' you describe is due to his mental disability. In other words, its something he could not help. That same disability is what prevents him from understanding WHY his father passed him over. That is what makes it so heartbreaking.
When fredo says " it's not the way I wanted it" he is so creepily similar to Brando as Vito in the "you can be a man scene" his jaw even moves in the same way when he speaks
Never noticed this but an incredible detail! Cazale really was one of the greats
I noticed it also. Incredible.
He even looks like Vito a little when he was younger. Like if Vito was soft.
Yes, I always thought he really resembled Vito's appearance in this scene.
I thought the same. And then it got me thinking that he couldve done a really good young Vito. As great as de niro was
Even though John was only in 5 movies before his death I still consider him as one of the greatest actors of all time.
Even Pacino thought that John was one of the greatests
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Every movie he was ever in either won best picture or was nominated.
Did he die before Deer Hunter was actually released?
All because Fredo had pneumonia as baby. He was seen as fragile and not groomed for the family business.
@Roman von Ungern Sternberg Didn't stop him banging cocktail waitresses two at a time
@buriedxinblack This could well be true.
@buriedxinblack Fredo says to Michael at one point that their mother Carmela used to joke "You don't belong to me. You were left on the doorstep by gypsies."
He was just stupid.
He was fragile and couldn’t be a don. Look at him. Too emotional and not firm enough. Couldn’t even defend his dad when his life was in danger
I think the scene where Fredo talks about him being smart was brilliantly played and nuanced. He’s in this broken chair, which is the epitome of him, weak, feeble, and when he tries to stand up for himself he tries to make the chair upright to seem strong, but then he falls back, showing his true nature all over again. Meanwhile Michael is stoic, rooted, upright, towering over Fredo, completely unimpressed by his brother’s false show of strength.
BRILLIANT.
As an added insult Michael turns away when he begins the monologue.
This
Pretty damn good observation there. I never thought of this scene in that way. 👍🤔
The chair is not broken. That's how it is designed.
And didn’t even get an Oscar nomination for John Cazale
This has got to be my favorite scene in the whole trilogy. The way Fredo is shouting about being respected when he can't even sit up in the chair is brilliant. And after that outburst that he's probably held inside his entire life, Michael's cold emotionless response is absolutely brutal.
I honestly can’t get over the way Fredo looks at 1:09. Just like a scared dog hoping for mercy from its master. Fantastic acting from John Cazzle.
he passed away too soon, he was only in a few movies and they were all amazing. Dog Day Afternoon, Deer Hunter, Godfather pt1&2 and the rest. great career and amazing actor.
Dog day afternoon is a really underrated film. Both Pacino and Cazale were magnificent in that film
Cazale's performance is the most under-rated - he didn't have as much screen time as Al Pacino but when they shared a scene he went toe-to-toe with him, you can see the despair and feeling of inadequacy in every gesture, the way he sits, walks and even observes others
I don't think it's under-rated. Everyone I know thinks Cazale owned this scene.
heema b He's such a great character.
+heema b Cazale's performance was in no way, shape or form "underrated." His gifts were astonishing, and everyone appreciated how incredible he was at his art. After this, he went on to make "The Conversation", "Dog Day Afternoon" and "The Deer Hunter." Hardly the resume of an underrated actor.
+Sina Taleban He was engaged to be married to Meryl Streep when he died...
heema b he definitely kills it, especially in this scene. I was definitely hurt as a teenager when they finally killed him in the end, it is just a film but damn that still bothers me to this day.
“I’m your older brother mike and I was stepped over!” I think that’s my favorite line from the whole trilogy, the emotion in his voice makes it seem so real
that's the way dad wanted it.
Very true tho some people lil brothers just got more heart
@@superfoo8258 no they don’t they just want to usurp their older brothers
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Fredo needed to realize where his strengths and weaknesses were. Yes Mike was his kid brother but they're clearly adults now, and Mike been through a lot more than Freddy. Freddy could've had all the percs with none of the headaches.
Perks not percs lmao unless you talking about oxys
@@eyl4745 yea I was talking about Fredo crushing up and snorting phamacuetical pills. I also farted
It’s not easy being the oldest sibling in a family.
All he had to do was be Michael right hand and he would have been ok. Fredo downfall was his own ambition it’s sad.
Fredo was not smart or strong enough to be a leader, but he was also not dumb enough to be complacent in his position. If he was stupid all the way he would’ve actually thought he played a vital role in his family (instead of running errands) and felt pretty good about it.
0:50 begins 20 seconds of some of the finest acting there is. John Cazale was incredible. I think people tend to gloss over a performance that has this level of vulnerability and weakness, in part because Cazale convinced us he was weak and broken in this scene and it just carries over to our thinking. Just incredible.
Cazale's yelling as Fredo yelling was intense, but Pacino's response was chilling, the amount of intensity he put just through speaking is insane
+Manoli Stavrinakis cazale,joe cazale,now i know you are not italian ah ah ah aahhhh
No Im not Italian. Im Greek.
+Manoli Stavrinakis greek name
It really is too bad how Fredo argued with Michael in this scene. When he said "I'm smart, and I want respect" you knew that Michael was not going to take that lightly.
I cant stand these characters, but it is good acting
The way Cazale uses the chair in his performance is outstanding.
The chair was a character in the scene.
I thought the chair was distracting and he was overdoing the whole body shaking stuff but to each their own i guess!
Truly Amazing , Like Houston we Have A Problem
The way a chair submitted the Fredo is on point.
The Amaze in an Actor..the Camera loved him
"I learned more about acting from John than anybody" - Al Pacino. That says a lot considering the level of Pacino's acting.
Acting is often reacting , even for method actors. Great actors really make it easy for everyone else.
"I'm smaat, not like everybody says!" Best line EVEERRRRR
John Cazale was such a brilliant actor. This is my favorite scene in the film.
He only appeared in five films, all nominated for Best Picture.
And Meryl Streep's first husband till his death.
ElTuco84 And the one that didn't win (The Conversation) lost to Godfather II, so there you go, lol.
Johnny Utah They weren't married, they were just a couple, but yeah she took care of him when he was dying.
njyankeesfan Yeah. Nobody could ever have the heart to act as somebody as weak.
John really left wayyyy to soon. Imagine if he lived as long as Pacino. We would've gotten some marvelous performances
would have won an Academy Award too :(
It’s amazing what we got from him, he was in five movies and all of them were critically acclaimed.
@@pelicanchampion8629 all 5? Wdym
He was dating Meryl Streep when he died. She was with him when he passed
@@u_p3847 John Cazale who played Fredo appeared during his whole career in 5 films. All of them were best picture nominated and three of them won. He died during the production of his 5th and final film(The Deer Hunter) of lung cancer
The voice cracks and the anger and emotion are so realistic and also so relatable. What an actor.
I'm surprised no one mentioned how much he looked like his pop in this scene. Imo, he was mimicking the nuances that Marlon Brando brought to the role, his facial expressions, the way his hair looks, even the way he talks.
Everyone talks about fredo's pain, but nobody talks about this beautiful scene. When Fredo talks, the background shows intense rain and turmoil water, but when his brother talks, the background is calm and foggy, but when they show the panoramic of the room, it's pouring down outside. Great representation of the emotions using nature. All in one scene. Absolutely amazing.
what are you talking about? there is no intense rain, and the water is always very calm. And it is clearly snowing outside, a rather gentle snowstorm at that. Look closely out the window, especially at :50 on.
@@ronyeahright9536 Ron .... jeeze ... I'm going to look at this again on my phone to see if I can see it .
@@ronyeahright9536 Ron ... as far as I can see on my phone you're right except I don't see snow coming down .
never paid attention to that..brilliant catch!
The cold breath from the Don. Ice in his veins.
Imagine what John Cazale would have done during the rest of this career.
Seriously... we only got to see a fraction of his talent.
exactly what i just thinking about
Agreed. Such a loss.
5 movies in 7 years, all nominated for Best Picture; 3 of which won.
Probably he would incarnate Edgar Allan Poe in a drama film of him.
"...Something in it for me."
John's delivery is perfectly heartbreaking.
He really hits home the reality that Fredo just wanted the same things as his brothers even though his own personal circumstances could never allow it to be.
Fredo can be easy to sympathize with on the one hand, but from a business standpoint would always be a threat. Emotions are powerful things and can lead a person to make a lot of impulsive, self-gratifying choices. The sheer amount of frustration, bitterness, and insecurity coming out of Fredo is quite amazing. Michael knew from this point on that, in addition to always being excess baggage for the family, Fredo was a lot more unstable and dangerous than he ever figured. Don't let the goofy, awkward presentation from Fredo deceive you. A man with that amount of jealousy and rage inside of him is never going to be content with what he has. Had he lived, it would only be a matter of time before something involving him happens again, possibly with an outcome in which Michael isn't so lucky.
All the more reason why Michael had Fredo killed. He really had no choice. Fredo would always be angry he never ran the family.
@@itjustlookslikethis I want to ask a question? How would you think vito handle it if he was in the place of Michael?
@@swaroopboyina4236 Vito would never kill family, He didnt even kill Carlos because he knew his daughter would hate him forever if he did so left that up to Michael. I think Vito would have him cut completely off from the family business and watched 24/7 and distance himself from him. After Vito was shot in the first one I dont think he talked to Fredo again until he died.
also because fredo was smashing cocktail waitresses two at a time. Vito didnt like that lol
@@voncinnamon1 True ...He didn't even look at fredo after he came home from hospital
I always felt that Michael was giving Fredo one last out with the "and you believe that story?" bit. If Fredo told Michael that he truly believed it would have been good for the family, then Michael would have forgiven him; he'll give him an extra scolding for being dumb and naive and likely keep him away from family business, but he'll still forgive and love him. However, once Fredo started going on about "something in it for me", it became clear that he wasn't thinking about family first, and merely was looking out for his own gain. That was when Michael could really no longer trust Fredo.
Well said
I think differ. The chance you said, as true as it may be, was alreadg given to Fredo at Moe Green's hotel. He stood for Moe, who just insulted Corleone family. I think there is no chance of redemption or forgiving in this scene. We all know who Michael is. He wouldnt take his words back once they are made. I honestly think Fredo's fate was sealed at the nude theater.
It was a rhetorical question and you are reading too deep into it.
@@anstjsdlr i saw a vid and it made a good point. the last chance was in part 2, when the new year party was interrupted and people fleeing from the communists. there was a scene where michael was fleeing in a car, he saw fredo and yell 'FREDO COME HERE' so they can both book it, but fredo doesnt go with michael, and that was the end of their brotherhood. there was a rift in their trust in the immediate prior scenes, so two brothers splitting cuba in two different ways was the symbolic split in their relationship.
He was never going to forgive Fredo because he conspired with Roth who tried to have him killed at his house. Dont tell me Fredo did'nt know it was going to be a hit. He might be stupid but he's a conning little basterd.
“Fredo... you’re nothing to me now” that line was delivered so ice cold. Micheal Corleone was DONE... OVA! At this point!
Fredo was done, Michael was just getting started.
EDIT: He was a bit utilitarian in his ethics, and I forgive it, since Fredo double-crossed Michael at least twice. It was the family's future versus Fredo's ambition and the latter had to die since the alternative is 100x more tragic.
@Nicholas Ricci Fredo's ambition being realised. He made it clear he wanted to be the Don: "I'm your older brother, and I was stepped over"
Yeah his own brother. "Woh to the man that places money over blood"
@@KWizard__ Woe*
"“Fredo... you’re nothing to me now” that line was delivered so ice cold."
Michael's breath is _literally producing vapor_ as he speaks those lines
Damn straight gangster Al Pacino showed himself in this scene.
Also the man who played Fredo showed such sincere emotion.
Trying to show strength through pride but all knowing he did wrong and cannot undo what was done then shows grief and a sense of regret.
Such a great scene. I love it
John Cazale is one of the great actors ever, and this scene demonstrates his enormous talent. The sheer vulnerability and willingness to be a fool, the pain he feels is so real, so authentic, so passionate in his outburst, so willing to let it all hang out, is remarkable. And his physicality - the use of the lounge chair is so creative and spontaneous - it's as if the chair is an extension of his body. The specificity of his choices and the details of his character's life is out there, summarized in this scene. The character's insecurities, follies, and weaknesses are this actor's strength. The HBO video, "I Knew It Was You," is worthwhile seeing as a great homage to this remarkable actor who left us way too soon.
I agree, particularly what you said about that chair. Props are key to making performances at times. I remember watching an actor named Art Smith as a psychiatrist and the way he held his glasses is what sold me on his performance.
I feel so sorry for Fredo when his voice breaks while shouting ”im smart not dumb like everybody says”.
I’m smart, not like everybody says. Like dumb. I’m smart!
@@brandonfranzen5191 he's smart enough to get himself killed
He's like a smart person
Just good acting
He’s so distraught he can’t even form a proper sentence to prove his point.
Fredo look like his dad Vito so much in this scene.
Yeah
@@nicomrad2360 the first son usually looks like his dad the most
@@batissta44 Totally
@@batissta44 He isn't the first son. He's a middle child.
Oh yes!! He most certainly did!
As an older brother, I can tell you this not only happens, but also the feeling persues.
The thing is that I don't think Fredo was actually dumb - I think he just didn't have the cutthroat, cold-blooded mentality to survive in the Mafia. While Michael succeeded in the business due to his intense paranoia, Fredo was too trusting, which wouldn't have been a problem in legitimate business, but proved fatal in the mob. We've been shown that Fredo has social skills and is able to host and entertain guests; he likely would have succeeded in marketing or advertising or something non-criminal.
Good observation. Well said.
Ha . You think marketing and advertising is non-criminal ?
I'd want to be realistic. I think if Fredo became successful in this, Michael would be jealous.
I think he was a womanizer so something related to women maybe, like a pimp or a strip club owner, so he could mix business and pleasure together, maybe even an adult movie actor,.
Nowadays, being trusting in any legitimate business is a fatal error too
What's more chilling then seeing Michael turning on Fredo is seeing Michael slowly alienating himself from his family. His father Vito is dead, Sonny is dead, he is soon to lose his mother, he has just disowned Fredo, and is also about to lose Kay. I find it fascinating that by the end, Michael has won everything (his war with Roth) but in the process lost everything that was most dear to him. so Michael in a sense lost too, something more meaningful, fuller, and richer then anything in his crime business could have won him.
+Nathanael Stasinski
Watching the Godfather Saga tonight, and going back to Connie's wedding. The group family photo at the wedding must have been really depressing to Michael to look at by the end of Part II.
His parents are dead. Both brothers are dead, his wife is estranged, Connie hates him for killing her husband who was responsible for Sonny's death.
It's like the wedding reception was the domino where things really started unraveling and going to hell for him.
+Nathanael Stasinski I think people around Michael was weak, wasn´t Mike´s fault, they all at some point doubt about his decitions
+Juan Pablo Genetti True, it was beyond Michaels control but he was sort of in a lose/lose situation in regards to what was happening. His decision may have been the right one in preserving his business, but it came without sacrifice and the sacrifice was his family. Michael may have been the more ruthless Godfather then Vito, but Vito always put his family the highest on the chain, something Mike never was able to do or could do.
+guardian08527 Totally. I see The Godfather movies (the first two) really as a tragedy in a sense. It shows the life of a young man who is trying to live a life outside his family business. He served honorable in World War 2, went to college and just wanted to live his life away from it all but eventually succumbed to it which would lead him to nothing except his demise which Godfather 2 really shows well. It shows the slow and gradual destruction of him and what he used to be. Of course a little bit of his "goodness" shines when he recollects about Fredo and the birthday party but by then he nothing more then an empty shell.
Nathanael Stasinski You are not enterely right, Vito had a wife that understood his business, Michael did not have that luck.
Nobody ever talks about it, but John Cazale did amazing work as Fredo.
everybody do
Actually a lot of people talk about it , including Al Pacino who was his best friend.
@@arthurhiou1305 actors? Sure. But I have never had a conversation about the movie with anyone where people singled out his work. Not once. So, among movie lovers, he just isn’t talked about.
@Justin Christopher you do realize most people who watch movies aren’t actually social media people right. Nobody I’ve ever talked to outside of the internet has even mentioned his acting. So no, not everybody does. Remember when everyone started calling Cuomo on CNN “Fredo” and tons of people had no clue why? I rest my case. Get in the real world instead of living life in this one. It’s a whole new experience.
look at this clip's comments. EVERYBODY talks about how incredible Cazale was in this movie. It's a major sin the Oscars never even nominated him for this movie.
"It aint the way I wanted it!!!!"
Remains the most passionately delivered line in any movie I ever watched. RIP
Makes me realize how many times I have been Fredo...
1:30 - The way that Michael looks down on a slumped and deflated Fredo is artistic. The ultimate humiliation for Fredo.
His dad failed him. Fredo wasn't cut out for the mob life. Why not groom him into politics. Fredo was a people person and could have handle politics.
Even if he screwed that up, invest in the guy somehow. If nothing else, give him a supply of waitresses so he’s worn out and cares less.
Yeah, especially in the books. On the other hand, I think his father's judgment was that Fredo was not strategic at all. He was simply not competent at anything that required serious follow through in the eyes of his father.
He wasn't cunning enough for that. He used to trust people blindly. Which makes him not suitable for politics.
@@RussoPeter_1 I think you could kind of make him like a front man for a political thing but you couldn't really rely on him to do it like on his own.
In the books it is even more believable because he's supposed to be very handsome then extremely charming and we don't get to see that very much in the movies. Like his wife in godfather II is not believable given the actor unless she's just straight a of gold digger. But gold diggers can't predate on mob guys.
@@iwpoe yupp. That's why they sent him to run casino, which was important as a 'front' for the main business of the family. But he became greedy, and enemies took advantage of his weakness by offering him a personal deal.
About Fredo's wife : There are not much details about her in the movie. She was a gold digger alright, and Fredo even somewhat tolerated her tantrums and disrespectful behavior. It is possible that she was daughter of some wealthy businessmen, or some congressman, and family approved of this marriage in order to gain political connections.
fuck it, i'm gonna re-watch the entire movie.
Do you get any channels like Cinemax or HBO? They occasionally run the first two movies, but in chronological order. So there aren't any flashbacks. I believe you can get it like that on VHS still, but it would cost you.
That's a HORRIBLE way to watch the movies. A big part of the art of Godfather II is the parallels between Pacino's character in the 50s and young Vito in the 1910's. The edits between the two periods are brilliant. You miss a big part of the storytelling when you get rid of those.
Incredible how much he looks like Vito in this scene, but without the dignity and honour and strength. What wonderful acting John Cazale. Amazing.
The stress in his mind and body, the feeling of helplessness....you can see Cazale's adam's apple illustrate this with the gulp around the 1:20 mark. Insane acting ability to get your body to simulate that like it was 100% real. Literally swallowing the little shred of pride he may have had.
"Fredo, you're nothing to me now. You're not a brother, you're not a friend. I don't wanna know you or what you do. I don't want to see you at the hotels, I don't want you near my house. When you see our mother, I want to know a day in advance so I won't be there."
Michael severing ties with his brother was cruel enough, but killing him was just pure evil.
Fredo knew at least that Roth's people meant Michael harm didn't do anything to stop them nor did he warn Michael. Plus he disobyed Michael's warning from GF 1 which was to never to take sides for anyone against the family again. Michael had to cut him off. Now I wouldn't of killed Fredo if I was Michael since blood is everything but I don't blame Michael for doing it.
Michael only had Fredo killed because Fredo tried to help Roth have him killed out of jealousy that Michael was Don and he wasn't because Fredo dumbass that he was thought he should be the Don just because he was older than Michael even though he was utterly incompetent and the Corleone family would have fallen apart within days if Fredo was Don. In what world is killing a brother who tried to have you killed pure evil? If anything it was Fredo who was pure evil not Michael. Fredo opened the windows in Michael and Kay's bedroom and didn't care whether his sister in law Kay, his sister Connie, his nephew and niece Anthony and Mary and his own wife Deanna died too as long as Michael was killed by Roth's gunmen with them. What was Michael supposed to do? Let Fredo live just because he was his brother? Even if he had it would only have been a matter of time before Fredo's jealousy overtook him again and he worked with someone else to have Michael killed.
FunnyVideoMaker77 - The only difference between Fredo and Mike was that Fredo's attempt to plot against his brother's life failed because Mike outsmarted him and never trusted Roth. They always say "oh, how could Mike be so cold and have his own brother killed?" but they never ask "oh, how could Fredo be so malicious and plot with enemies of his family to have his own brother killed?" Not to mention that Fredo didn't even give a damn about Kay and the children's lives when he pulled the curtains in Mike and Kay's bedroom aside to give Roth's gunmen a clear field of fire. Does anyone believe they would have hesitated for the fraction of a second to kill everybody in the room just to get Mike?
Rouskey Carpel blood don't mean shit sometimes.
First of all, the windows weren't open, the drapes were. And no one says at any point in the movie that it was Fredo who opened them.
Another thing really good about this scene is that despite how defiant and 'angry' Fredo is, he remains seated, still submissive and in a lower place.
Very true! He's a COWARD!
MrHallofFameHBK1 What do you expect him to do fist fight?
great use of high status / low status
The fact that he remains seated is just another way of showing that he is totally incapable of standing up for himself even when he gets angry!
MrHallofFameHBK1 good observation
John Cazale still one of the greatest actors of all-time and this scene still hits me like no other in the film.
Fredo just got fired!
John Cazale broke my heart in this scene.
Great acting by Cazale. What a shame he died at such a young age.
Great acting! He was taken from us far too soon but he's in a better place now.
i know it was you fredo
He was dying when he made that scene. He left this Earth doing his best.
Painful to watch.
Can we talk about Michael outfit though - the jacket, sweater, collared shirt with the ascot. Classy AF.
It's hard to pick the best scene in this trilogy when there are so many. This scene is a pure masterpiece. The pain, sorrow and fear all mixed together perfectly.
Amazing scene.. what a group of actors.. could be any pair of siblings arguing over something... what chemistry..
0:49-1:07 might be one of the best acting I have ever seen in my life.
Yeah, it's so good. Fredo the character might be stupid but John Cazale is a genius. The way his voices breaks when he says "I'm smart!!" makes him sound like an entitled and hopelessly dumb manchild, which is exactly what Fredo is supposed to be. Sublime acting if I've ever seen one.
dude all of the actors in Godfather are legendary. Don Vito, Sonny, Mike, Fredo, Tessio, Clemenza, Pentageli, Moe, Roth, literally everyone. You'll notice, the shots are single and steady in every scene, it's the acting that lights up the scenes.
Absolutely. It says a lot when John Cazale can hang with actors of that caliber and steal the scene.
Riveting wasn`t it?Michael, who had become so selfish and so self absorbed, finally came to know how jealous and agonized Fredo had become because of the way he had been treated.
But one thing was missing.Michael should have been eating an orange.
Later, Michael tells Al Neri "I don't want nothing to happen to him while my mother is alive...." and Al Neri had a very sad look on his face due to receiving the cryptic order.....
I took it as Al being shocked that Michael would go that far.
Then what if Mama Corleone had lived all the way up to the 70s or even the 80s? Would Michael really wait 20-30 years for revenge?
@@urkersen5246 If Fredo was dumb enough to stick around that long, yeah.
@@urkersen5246 Ten bucks says Michael would have waited that long. Or at least make his death look like a accident.
@@urkersen5246 Yes. As much as Michael hated Fredo for betraying the family, he loved his mother and knew what it would do to her, having to bury another one of her sons.
The energy and chemistry on screen between these two is genuinely palpable
Fredo Coumo was fired
“When you see our mother I wanna know one day in advance so I won’t be there...” oh ma lord! 🔥
This scene made me feel for Fredo, hell this whole movie did. Throughout his life his family treated him like a second rate member, people often dismiss him but he has been the black sheep of his family for his ENTIRE life. His parents never respected him, his own mother used to tell him that he was adopted and repeatedly too, joking or not it affected him to the point where he still held on to the memory. His father didn't think much of him because he was weak, when Tom told Sonny that he was as much as son to the Don as he and Michael were, he completely left Fredo out of the equation. Sonny ordered him around like a servant and dismissed him if he tried to say anything (think the ending scene of this movie). Michael was probably the closest one to Fredo but in the end he resented him for being the golden child. Michael could never understand his brother though he loved him, and this scene made me understand that. All Fredo wanted was respect and a place to belong, when he was at Vegas he latched unto Moe Green because the man initially treated him good hence why he stood up to defend him in part 1. He has constantly been put down by the others and you wonder why he was weak? Fredo was a man with no confidence because it had constantly been ripped apart from since childhood.
+Namea123 for real. what you wrote was some deep true real talk right there but fredo should have walked out on them just to test them if they would have cared. maybe the, they would have learned to not overlook fredo
Very true!
+Namea123
I agree. For whatever reason, his parent treated him like shit from the beginning. He wasn't born this way. The way he was treated made him insecure.
+Namea123 You're overthinking about it. Fredo not being included was most likely a writers mistake, not the movie. Fredo was still Vito's and Carmella's son, you should read the novel.
he could have easily fought back and told everyone to go F themselves but he didn't he took quietly till the end. Maybe he was not weak but his passive nature and womanizing did make him weak in the eyes of the family
Although fredo had a legitimate reason to be angry....you never go against family...ever...
The way Cazale uses his hands has always struck me. An underrated part of the scene.
What an amazing actor John Cazale was. If he was still alive, he would have at least two academy awards.
+tdevil101 so true
Wow you taught me something new, just looked into it, I'm just missing 1 of the 5 movies think I'll watch it tonight
I always thought he would have been in Resevoir Dogs" if he were still alive. Can't tell you why.
I really pity all of Vito's children. Vito was just so perfect in every way. So very wise. He managed to be the best Don there ever lived... The power and riches were a means to an end, which was the safety and security of his family. The respect he commanded from literally everybody is a true testament to that. How could anyone match up to that? Even Michael spent his whole life thinking 'what would pop do in this situation?'. Fredo's frustrations are understandable. Like Mike said, "It's not easy being his son"!
Problem is, is that Vito was on the streets for quite a amount of his own life. He only became respected when he ended up killing the other Don who cost him his job at the grocers. That and the fact that he went and killed Don Chici made him respected.
Michael however didn't want to be forced into the role of Godfather once Vito had died which is why he enlisted into the Army when Pearl Harbour happened but everybody minus Fredo didn't like his decision because they, as Tom said, were too heavily invested in Michael's future.
Neither Michael nor Sonny nor Fredo had the skills necessary to replace Vito. Michael lacked compassion and warmth, Sonny was too brash and hot headed and Fredo was too weak willed and easy to manipulate.
Remember that Vito's still a filthy mafioso, no honour in that horrible business.
Vito is fictional. That's what made him perfect.
@@elmermedina1713 I feel that Michael once had the compassion and warmth, but lost it when Apollonia and Sonny died. After that he became cold
We all wanna be Michael but we usually end up like Fredo
True
Yeah..
I Understand the comment but "Michael" as a state of mind is even wose than Fredo, it's just too cold.
It’s such a shame we never got more John Cazale in films. The man has a short filmography but it’s by far one of the best. Rip
John Cazales acting in this scene is unreal. Maybe the best pure emotional acting in the trilogy. When he says "I'm your older brother Mike and I was stepped over? (Thats the way Papa wanted it..) "THAT ISN'T THE WAY I WANTED IT!!!" .... goosebumps everytime. I bet Al Pacino was like Holy shit this is good.....
John Cazale was a terrific actor. R.I.P dude.
Steve Kimble S. Dint fkin dude him man
Dont
In his brief movie career, he would play a weak character. I don't know if he was typecast but I agree with terrific actor.
Chris Cuomo Fired By CNN - December 4th, 2021 (colorized)
And long overdue!
Time to go fishing Fredo!
😀😀😀😀
I love how Cazale uses his arms and hands. The nervous energy and blatantly false posturing is amazing to pull off spontaneously
I wonder how many takes did they do for this scene? He is intense here; it's a great emotional ping -pong.
@@insuchaway Apparently a lot of takes as John Cazale was a huge perfectionist.
John Cazale should've won an award for this role.
+vbacs22 I really liked De Niro's performance. He won the oscar for best supporting role. But to be honest, I think Cazale was even better. De Niro gave so many great performances but in Godfather II, Cazale outperformed nearly everyone. Only Pacino and Strasberg were on the same level.
+Cosmic86x Cazale had the most difficult, most nuanced and most unsympathetic role imaginable, yet he makes his character's motivations on the screenplay come alive in a way that even the dumbest Fredo in the audience could relate to. He was one of the greats, and left an incredible legacy on film as well as remaining to this day the greatest love in Meryl Streep's life.
+Cosmic86x what about Michael V. Gazzo
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yes sure, he was also fantastic!
bart93107680 Gazzo took on a role that had to be created because the actor who played Clemenza in the first Godfather wanted an outrageous paycheck and wanted the producers to allow his wife to write his lines. He got the boot for killing the golden goose, so the character Frank Pentangeli was created. Now, it is impossible to imagine Godfather Part II with Clemenza instead of Pentangeli, and Gazzo was extraordinary.
The fact that Michael didn't even react to fredos thoughts about being stepped over must be also humiliation
Putting him in that chair was perfect.
John cazale was a phucking titan actor on this.
I love when Michael says "That's the way pop wanted it." Then Fredo says "It's not the way I wanted it!" They always obeyed their father Vito, and respected him very deeply. To hear Fredo say that shows that other side of him, it was like an act of defiance, that's been pent up in him for years, for never really being respected or as loved as Vito's other children. It was like Fredo said "Fuck what he wants, I don't want it." It's just very compelling.
If fredo had any smarts, he would have bowed down to his brothers that clearly were built from a different, stronger cloth than him.
100% agree
Fredo was just selfish and greedy and put himself over what was best for the family- "There was something in it for ME." He betrayed his brother and family because there was something in it for him.
It is incredibly eloquent and packed too
@@devindoty4989 You would, sissy
Look at Fredo's face @1:09 mark. It encompasses every moment of the character. From when he dropped the gun in part 1 to betraying his family name to feeling passed up and forgotten.
It's heartbreakingly great acting.
When the Don was getting hit, that was Fredo's big moment. If he could've just kept his cool and saved his father, think of the respect and praise he would've gotten. Think of how his life might've turned with that kind of positive attention within the family. He was a sweet, sensitive boy not cut out for the mobster life but, for better or worse, he was in it. Even the most simple-minded can feel when they're not wanted and disrespected. How it must've shamed him knowing even the lowest soldier laughed at him behind his back...but Fredo dropped the gun.
YES! That expression is so powerful that if you showed it to someone who’s never seen the movie and provided a description of each character, they could pick Fredo’s description easily.
his eyes after he says he wants respect are like a scared child that just stood up to their father but expect to get a beating. Perfect.
You can tell by Fredos body language when he yells at Michael that even though he’s angry with him he’s still afraid of him. Great acting by John Cazale !
Even when Fredo was yelling he still showed his weakness.
John Cazale was an amazing actor. Fredo was such a sweet, vulnerable soul and he played him superbly. It was so sad that John died so young .
You can hear the pain in his voice
Poor Chris 😂😂
cuomo? 😅
It was that moment, Fredo saying he wanted respect and getting mad that sealed his fate. Michael may have spared him, but his attempts to justify his betrayal are what got him killed.
I agree. Michael makes up his mind at around 1:06. You even see him nodding his head a little. And right after that Fredo is like "aaaaaah shit, I showed my true feelings, I done goofed" XD.
Even in the original Godfather, they say you can forgive a man, but he will never forgive himself.
Yup. And after that he condems himself even more. And then some more. Guy was not fit for a family like that.
Unfortunately, mercy and forgiveness are alien to Michael's & Fredo's world. In this world, betrayal can only be dealt with ONE WAY. Heck, even if you DON'T "betray," you can be screwed: In "Casino" [SPOILER] the teamster boss didn't betray ANYONE but the bosses had him killed "just in case."
Tone Montana Fredo wasn't strong enough to protect his father when he was being assasinated. Fredo betrayed Michael, his own blood just to attempt to be a major player in Vegas amongst some of Corleone's enemies. He rightfully deserved to die for turning on his own family. fuck him!
I can actually relate to Fredo. I’m the oldest of my brothers, but I’m on the autism spectrum. My younger brothers have moved out and started their lives, while I’m still living with my mom.
But, I would never betray my family the way he did. Maybe my dad and a few uncles, but *never* my brothers.
I think older siblings really understand fredo, as good as you want your siblings to be, as much as you want them to prosper, we still want their respect as their older brother. No one wants to feel pathetic. Respect to you and keep being a rockstar and a good big brother. Life is what we make it.
@@billygoat1547 I'm not a rockstar, but I try to be a good older brother when I can be.
Thank you. I really appreciate you saying that. 🙂
Cool so you are in the mafia?
@@politicallyincorrect4452 God, no.
@@ZukoHalliwell You’re gonna make it, don’t worry 😊
As an actor he did such a phenomenal job! Excellence
Not a chance I can act like he did. Legend he is
That voice crack on "smArt" could not be more perfect
Fredo would've been a horrible Don, he should've been content with his Mickey Mouse Nightclub.
Well, that's sort of the point. He WAS dumb. He WASN'T smart but realizing your own limitations isn't always that easy.
"A man's got to know his own limitations" Harry Callahan in "Magnum Force"
Number1Dougster I don't think Fredo was dumb, he was just not build to be a gangster mob type of guy while Michael was perfect for it. The problem was that Fredo wanted so much to be loved and respected like Michael that he pushed himself into this world. If Fredo just played the hand that was given to him, he would have been alright.
ya think?
We're sort of saying the same thing, just disagreeing about whether Fredo was "dumb" or not. Let us not quibble over small details. Let's just agree that Fredo would have made a horrible Don and that their father made the right choice in passing him over in favor of Mike.
CHRIS COUMO IS FANTASTIC
I love how fredo looks so comfortable laying there and is flipping out
The acting by the actor playing Fredo is spot on.
John Cazale! Learn that name before making any references to "The Godfather" again.
@@santiagorincon92 and dont ever take sides against Cazale again. Ever.
@@santiagorincon92 haha yes I know the great John Cazale! Fantastic actor
@@Noutchka props to you for responding years later lol. Have a great day 😎
Has to be one of the greatest scenes in cinema history
It is vic :)
Same as every other scene in this movies
Best movie of all time
Even better than Godfather I
Chris Cuomo really nailed it here.
My father always favored my older brother. After i graduated college, I moved away. Got my career, wife, and children. My own family. 20 years after I moved away, 2 months before he died from cancer, he called. He mumbled an apology. I was at the funeral.
RIP John Cazale. underrated legend. i still dont have the courage to see the last one in your filmography :(
the most intense scene in the whole trilogy. John Cazale at the height of his powers.