We need more actors like Sam Witwer that are genuine fans of the things they act in. It not only improves their performance, because they care about it more than if they didn’t know anything about the project, but also builds good conversation between fans and the actors, as they’re more involved with the community.
We need more fans like Sam. It’s so refreshing hearing people actually talk about deeper ideas and themes. Most if not all of the Star Wars channels I see either cry about woke or cry because they’ve memorized the pretend history of a fantasy franchise and seem mentally incapable of looking into the deeper ideas
@@alwaysabiggafish3305 people enjoying something is shilling. You’re genuinely not allowed to have an opinion on Star Wars unless it follows the NPC script it’s so crazy man
Sam's insight on the fantastic universe of Star Wars is never not a joy to listen to. He has such in-depth thoughts and feelings that are always so incredible to hear. I had the pleasure of meeting him at a 'con last year and got to chat about the Siege of Mandalore for a couple minutes, and he was so nice and detailed about it. A true fan if ever there was one!
What insight? I’m 4 minutes in and not only is everything he’s said just objectively wrong but also just a total superficial take on what makes a person good..
The insight he gives extends way beyond more than just four minutes. Take a look at his breakdown of the Maul/Kenobi duel from Rebels as a prime example. And when you look at the core foundations of Star Wars, it's mythologies, themes, meanings and beyond... I'd consider its contributions to the discussion of what it means to be a good person quite the opposite of superficial.
I love that Sam Witwer can see the good craftsmanship in Star Wars, the bad always ends up bloating my liking of the show but we definitely need more people like him.
@@InjusticeJosh Exactly. Kind of like what Mark Hamil does when ever talking about the sequels. He's very quick to point out the good, and he more implies what the bad is. Because there is SOME good in Disney's canon. The stuff that's not their own sadly, mainly the stuff that's good, already existed but within extended materials and not so much live action, or even animated. Like Obi-Wan finding out Anakin is still alive, it was seen in a comic, but was never shown on TV/Big Screen. It's funny hearing Sam explain the Obi-Wan/Vader stuff, but when the subject switches to Reeva, he kind of gets a little disinterested and just kind of gives off her main plot points. Pretty funny, you can tell he loves Star Wars (and doesn't want to be black listed)
Yeah but since we are in the Disney cinematic universe would you rather not have a starkiller or having him but MAJORLY NERFED. Starkiller in the Disney cinematic universe can't have all these cool force abilities that he had in the games since Disney redconned them
@@maximosnikolaidis7026 starkiller wasn't as powerful as he was in the games, everyone was op in tfu. people like luke or ahsoka could have pulled star destroyers out of the sky too if they were in that game.
@@thescruffinator8830 His force abilities are still busted regardless of which game or movie he's in. I think him remaining in the expanded universe is the better option.
I think that’s the problem is that starkiller uses his likeness, therefore he either plays live action starkiller some day, or they cast him in a new role as a different/new character and forget his role as starkiller, or they simply allow him to voice maul and maybe some other characters and he never plays a live action character at all, but I believe they are saving him for live action starkiller some day
From the moment Anakin said, "I'm a person. My name is Anakin," Qui-Gon should have understood that he could not be a Jedi. Say what you will about the blindness of Yoda and Mace in the prequel era, they both agreed he was too old, and they were right, but it wasn't because of his attachment to his mother. Anakin's conception of his personhood is how he coped with the reality of being a slave. What the Jedi offered demanded that he sacrifice his sense of self. When Darth Vader "killed" Anakin, he destroyed his sense of personhood, and he does not regret it, because he believes he was responsible for the death of Padme. The Tragedy of Anakin Skywalker is that he re-enslaved himself.
The thing is, Qui-Gon was going to train Anakin in the ways of the Force even if it meant leaving the Jedi Order. But he died and Anakin, who was in the real need of a father figure, was placed in the care of Obi-Wan. Their relationship wasn't that of a father and son but that of siblings. That naturally fosters rivalry, even if it's subconscious. The story of Anakin Skywalker is about the importance of the whole nuclear family. No child can reach his full potential without both a mother and a father. Anakin needed both, which is why Palpatin ensnared him so easily. The whole Jedi Order was absolutely wrong about separating children from their families. Well, what they did certainly worked for their goal of making perfect unquestioning zealot soldiers, but definitely not for the kids' wellbeing. That goes really well with the idea of losing the sense of self, all in the name of greater good, and how it causes so much grief in the end. I know people like to harp on the Prequels and how George went all crazy because nobody told him "no," but the themes of the family and the parent/child bond are in the center of the whole 6 movies because of the way the Prequels were written. That's what made it so timeless.
It is that demand that one sacrifice themselves, their individuality and their place in the mortal world, that is what makes the Jedi no better than the Sith. To demand such indifference is unbelievably cruel. And that's the thing; the opposite of love is NOT hate, but indifference. Hate comes from a place of love. To know hate is to know love. To only feel indifference, is to not feel love at all.
To be 100% honest the prophecy did say that the chosen would balance the force in which he did as he destroyed the sith and the jedi by doing what he did the force is like nature you cant bend and control it to one side, it always balances it self out. The jedi did an error taking in anakin, but so did the sith and they both got destroyed by the balance of the force. I feel like anakin was the best character to show that in life you always need balance as one path or the other is always going to be destructive to those around you.
The main problem was that things did not play out as Qui-Gon wanted them to in the first place. Qui-Goin wanted the Jedi to embrace what Anakin was and train him properly. Had they done so, things would've turned out differently. He was The Chosen One, but Qui-Gon was the only one who could sense the potential where everyone else saw a threat. This distrust in Anakin, was what made Anakin turn. Qui-Gon was able to see what was right for the Force rather than the Council, hence why he never wanted to be on the Council. Qui-Gon saw the error of the Jedi ways and knew that Anakin could lead them in a better direction. But in the end, Yoda & Mace pushed him away and left him with a complete novice, Obi-Wan Kenobi, who was still a Padawan himself?! That was why Anakin turned to the dark side. After he was pushed away from the Jedi, this was the only way for him to fulfill the prophecy. Following Qui-Gon's death, Anakin should've been trained by either Mace or Yoda. That was the breaking point in the story - Leaving him with Obi-Wan was their biggest mistake
@@DansilSchroederit’s not really, if you think about it from the perspective of a Jedi, they wield this power that if misused is a capable of great destruction, and one of the things that lead to the Dark Side is succumbing to negative emotions (Fear, Anger, Greed, Jealousy etc.) so in a way, the Jedi need to detach themselves from attachment and to a certain extent emotion, because as many fallen Jedi have proved, the path to the dark side is one easily traveled down and is paved with good intentions. To say that the Jedi are no better than the Sith is also imo incorrect, the Sith seek to serve the self, not the force, they seek to destroy, corrupt and enslave the galaxy and it’s inhabitants and desire more and more power without thought to those they are harming, say what you will about the Jedi, are they flawed? Absolutely, are there things they do that I disagree with morally? For sure, but fundamentally their order is based on selfless principles in service to the force and innocent life, the complete opposite of the Sith
5:41 "Should you choose to add this to your version of Star Wars" I love that he uderstands that ultimately we decide what Star Wars is for us, individually, not the people who own the rights to it.
His thoughts and description of the force ghosts is similar to what they did in the Mortis Arc in Clone Wars, where Obi-Wan sees Qui-Gon and questions how it is possible and Qui-Gon tells him that he's there because of Obi-Wan, like a conduit pulling him into existence/physical imagery
I used to like this guy now I love this guy!! He verbalizes his thoughts so well and has such respect for fellow actors and their work. His show Being Human was so underrated.
The simplest explanation for Qui-Gon being able to manifest himself as a force ghost in Obi-Wan is that he learned it while communing with Yoda after he went through the trials in TCW. I base this off Filoni speculating that Obi-Wan and Yoda would've taught Anakin how to become a force ghost after he was redeemed so he could appear to Luke at the end of ROTJ. Rebels supports this theory too with how Kanan was able to linger as a spirit of sorts and manifest through that wolf Dume, before finally passing on. So if a Jedi has unfinished business there is like a window of time where they're in limbo between the living force and the cosmic force, and in that space between life and death they can still learn to maintain their consciousness if another force ghost is willing to teach them.
@@spikespiegel7964 Your criticisms of omission of information don't count if you require every single thing in the entire story to be explain for you to like it. A story that leaves specific explanations up to interpretation after they provide you sufficient information, which they do, is good.
Sam Witwer is one of my favorite actors, especially in Star Wars. It amazes me how deep he gets sometimes, and how his deep thoughts often mirror my own. Amazing guy and incredible actor.
I love that he says “if you choose to include this in your version of star wars.” What a great way to view that, that we all get to pick and choose what is and isn’t a part of our personal canon. I go back and forth with Kenobi. On one hand I love the final scene and there are plenty of scenes throughout that I would go back and watch on their own, but it kind of weakens Kenobi’s dialogue in a new hope and makes the finale of revenge of the sith less special. I love seeing more of the relationship between Vader and Kenobi but the more time they spend together in between episodes III and IV, it takes away from both movies so I tend not to include it.
I tend to agree that the more time Ben and Vader spend in each other's presence between RotS and ANH dilutes the impact of both, but I also think the show balanced that with giving us just enough that the two scenes they do share give us value as the audience without diluting the impact of the movies so much that they're worse for it overall. For Ben in particular, I think their scenes together, along with Ben's interactions with Leia, help bridge the grieving general Obi-Wan Kenobi of RotS and the weathered-but-centered old hermit Ben Kenobi of ANH. But, that's just how I view Star Wars, and I agree that we all get to decide which parts have value for us and which don't.
I find that viewpoint a consistent frustration I have with the Star Wars fandom. You don't get to choose what is and isn't a part of the continuity, you aren't the writer. You can choose what you like, what you feel does the series justice, but you don't get to choose what is and isn't part of your "personal" canon. You don't decide canon. You take the good with the bad, and the bad often has an effect on the good.
To see Obi-Wan feeling so guilty about Anakin's turn to the dark side makes total sense. Obi basically straightaway became a master after just being a padawan. The responsibility he bore was too much to handle (especially with Anakin's temperament). From his perspective, he is completely at fault for things turning out the way they did. Thereby I was very happy to see him overcome this guilt and realizing that he couldn't have saved Anakin, that Anakin chose this path. He has now freed himself from the emotional ties that prevented him from truly becoming a master and is ready to pass on his teachings to Luke in the OT.
im a canon purist so i never wanted Vader and Kenobi to fight, I agree with your comment about Kenobi's growth as a character but i feel like he could have done this without Kenobi fighting Vader. i like to think Kenobi would have spent his time growing his character and overcoming his trauma, guilt and his fear of death, knowing that one day he WILL have to face Vader again, his own apprentice, but this time he has complete trust in the force and he will let Vader strike him down, he will willingly fall so Luke will succeed. realistically Kenobi should have come to the conclusion that Anakin was too far gone the moment he left him on Mustafar, not 10 years later, but thats my opinion, and my canon i guess.
@@thisbubblygoodness7611 I dunno.... when you rewatch ROTS and see ANH, you can’t help but wonder why isn’t Obi-Wan shocked at Vader be8ng alive and not dead since well, burnt to a crisp at a volcano planet.
@@justinesun631 in the extended universe, Kenobi found out Vader's survival by overhearing other normal civilians talking about the Empire's recent victory thanks to a 'boogie man weapon' called Darth Vader. and i believe the Empire may have even used Vader's image as propaganda to instill a degree of fear, like posters or something (im pretty sure) so he managed to be able to see what Vader looked like without ever having to confront Vader himself. and in my opinion, Kenobi confronting Vader on the death star without ever having physically seen him before, and NOT be phased by it, is 10 times more of a flex in confidence and trust in the force, then Kenobi confronting Vader '9 years later' after their duel in the Kenobi series
Between Maul, Starkiller and Crashdown from Battlestar Galactica this dude is practically a Sci-Fi God and yet still just as much of a fan as the rest of us. One of my favorite on screen and voice actors ever, keep it up Sam! Edit: all of this applies to Katie Sackhoff too with Bo Katan, Starbuck and the fandom as well.
You mean a nightmare, to get to play a bastardized version of your fave character??? It pains me to see so much production, studios, effects, performances go to waste because someone had an agenda or wanted to game of thrones it. It's like seeing your own child be graped in front of your eyes and you can't do anything about it. I would be ashamed to ever participate in such violent assault
that scene was not only outstanding in terms of the dialogue and all of its emotional layers, but even the lighting was incredibly well done. not to mention the acting of course. one of the best star wars scenes of all time
A lot of people have talked about the possibility of Corran Horn being reintroduced to canon due to some easter eggs in Kenobi, and personally I think Sam Witwer would be amazing for the role.
Sam witwer is always Interesting to listen too when it comes to starwars the man is obviously a huge fan and knows alot about the characters and the lore
he was so awesome in the force unleashed i hope his character comes back into disney cannon the idea of a sith becoming a jedi is really cool story we have seen jedi turn sith or jedi giving up
The best explanation that I can think of for Qui Gon dying but others surviving is that while Jedi accept death and feel at peace with the force, sith and dark side users are fueled by revenge and hate, and are motivated to keep fighting. Hence why Jedi can become force ghosts, because they have accepted their fates. In Reva’s case, as well as Vader, Maul, the Grand Inquisitor, and even the Emperor, they were too driven by anger to accept defeat and death.
That's a lot of cope man! It's Vader, she should have been killed multiple times when failing him and absolutely obliterated after attacking him. He wouldn't let her live. It was stupid in the same way as the trench coat. There is no explaining it. Plus you are saying that nearly all dark side users are invulnerable to explain bad writing which is just not true.
@Lord of D Lol there is no "shoulds" if you actually knew Vader. If you knew what you were talking about, he lets Piet live with a warning "This is the last time you will fail me" as in do it again and you're dead. Piet never failed him again before dying but reva had a lot of chances and also attacked him. It is completely out of character for him not to destroy her, you should know this if you have ever watched/read the OT/EU. Even the fact she knows he is Anakin is a death sentence, that has been cannon for decades. So what is your argument for an emotionally compromised Vader, letting obi-wan run away after the fire when he had just put it out? I thought he was so bat shit crazy he would do anything for obi-wan but he lets a 2 meter fire stop him from catching him when he is inflammable?!? You can't have it both ways. What you said about dark side users is true but where you are wrong is thinking this is a common trope. Not all of them can do this and to have it happen twice in 1 episode to 2 different characters is beyond dumb. You're doing some really good mental gymnastics but that's all it is. And I don't find it stupid because I don't like it. I don't like it because it is STUPID. The whole show is. Leia interacting with Obi, Reva fighting beru and owen and meeting luke, the fucking trench coat etc. There is a hell of a lot more stupid stuff about Kenobi. It's a show made for 8 year old's and marketed to adults. And defended by shills.
The bit about the force ghosts becoming more real as luke progresses his training is amazing. I would love to meet sam and just talk about star wars at a philisophical level
Sam is a hero of mine. He is more than an actor. He is a genuine fan. The fact that when they found the voice actor of Ben Kenobi, instead of saying “don’t kill my character, I have so much more to put into him,” he says “So like, that’s the guy, right?”. Sam genuinely loves this franchise. I admire him so much.
I've been saying the same thing in some video's CZcams comments. Vader is bragging about having killed Anakin, but what intentionally from him happens as a result of that brag is he absolves Obi-Wan of his guilt. Vader's like "Don't you dare take credit for killing Anakin dude, that was all me. That's MY accomplishment." Really cool what Sam said about the "weakness still remains" line. I hadn't fully understood what Vader was referring to there yet. Doubt is the difference between a good person who tries to find the good in the worst people and an extremist. That's also why Reva couldn't kill Luke. Although she has fallen far, she still has doubt about whether or not killing Luke will bring her peace.
Focusing on the good aspects of something doesn’t mean you think it’s good overall. Also publicly criticizing the work of your employers is usually not a good idea
The problem with that is they would have to nerf him cause he was more powerful then vader in the games and could even become more powerful to kill palpatine
@@xUseTheForks Or they could just set his character in the future/away from the OT in general. The whole Vader/Palpatine part of his story really were the weaker parts anyway
I think that Qui-Gon couldn’t fully manifest himself before because of his inability to Accept Anakins Future as Darth Vader, Yoda’s training consists of knowing yourself, your darkside, your fears and the future and letting go and coming to acceptance, when anakin kills the tuskins Qui-gon screams “no” implying he hasn’t come to terms with Anakins future so it’s reasonable to assume after Anakin falls to the darkside Qui gon is then able to accept his fate and complete his training
At the end there when he talked about Qui-Gon not appearing to Luke because "he's never met the guy" I was expecting someone would jump onto that statement to say "then what about when Lucas replaced Sebastian Shaw with Hayden?" I would have liked to hear Sam's response to that.
@@wingthomaux I didn't ask the question, I'm fully aware he is still Anakin. I only said that I was expecting that someone who doesn't like that change to the movie would jump in to ask Sam "then how do you justify this?" Because I know these people have the argument that: Why would Anakin show up in a way Luke has never seen him and wouldn't recognise him?
I don't think they tried hard enough on Reva's story. An Inquisitor story line would've been so interesting but it did not fit in the show. There was so much explanation missing and I would be less nitpicky about it if they simply explained how all these people keep surviving lightsaber wounds that killed Qui Gon lol
@@willfanofmanyii3751 Reva shouldn't have been in the script at all, her character serves very little purpose in a show that should be solely dedicated to Obi-Wan's and Darth Vader's relationship. Had they introduced Reva in an Inquisitor's show about hunting Jedi, perhaps as the main protagonist, they could have built her character up properly, exploring her motivations and past and I bet she would have been received far better by fans. At least fans would know what they are getting in such a show, instead of shoehorning a new character into a show that should be solely focused on two legacy characters. The Kenobi show tried to focus on her arc too much, and no one wanted that because fans tuned in to see Obi-Wan and Vader, which caused resentment. It felt very much like a bait and switch. It didn't help matters when Star Wars came out and started implying there are a lot of racist fans that will say mean things to the actress. It's the internet, people say mean things because they can get away with it, this is nothing new and has nothing to do with racism. But the implication was if you criticised the character of Reva, you are a racist and toxic fan. All this drama could have been avoided with better decision-making...
She was a youngling who used the dark side to survive getting stabbed by Anakin when she was a kid and then grew up to be an angry psycho hell bent on revenge lol her story was pretty clear man.
@@highlivin1917 When the hell did the writers imply she used the Dark Side as a child to survive a stab wound to the chest? That should be a fatal injury to anyone, ask Qui Gon Jinn, he's calling Bullsh*t in the corner. Then after surviving what did she do? Apply to join the inquisitors as a ten-year-old with a stab wound that should have killed her almost instantly like her friends? Do you really think Vader would be that sloppy as to leave someone alive? Why recruit a child when you could turn surviving Temple Guards, Padawans and Jedi Knights into Inquisitors? The writers explain none of this. Instead, fans of the show are writing their own head canon to justify crappy writing.
@@jonarbuckle778 for her to have survived. she would have to use the dark side. so using our thinking skills we can infer that she started to fall to the dark at that young age.
I'd absolutely *love* to see Witwer appear as a live-action character in Star Wars, just not as Starkiller. I'd even be down for him playing Galen Marek, just not as the OP apprentice of Vader.
I'd personally love to see force unleashed become canon but in a way that brings starkiller more in line with other characters. I loved his family crest being the symbol of the rebellion and I loved his arc
The Force ghost thing is one of the few Star Wars related things that I disagree with Sam on. I agree that it somewhat relies on the person who the ghost is trying to speak to but I feel like it also slightly cheapens the training it requires to become a Force ghost because you can partially complete it now and still get the full benefits of it. Normally I’d just treat it as a nitpick but now that I’ve seen how lightsaber wounds are treated and in comparison with the past, I can see how much of a slippery slope these things can become. The process of becoming a Force Ghost is a very taxing procedure where you have to have the sentience to rip yourself from your euphoric mesh with the force, which in itself is a very painful process. Then you have to pick where you what time period and location you want to appear in while also building a physical form capable of being seen in the material world. That’s the reason the training is so important, to prepare you for what’s to come. If no one calls it out, how long will it be before the training is no longer required to become a Force Ghost?
It sucks that he’s got to be so careful about what he says about Disney content. But ai understand his position and wouldn’t want him not being involved in their version of “based on” Star Wars.
We need more actors like Sam Witwer that are genuine fans of the things they act in. It not only improves their performance, because they care about it more than if they didn’t know anything about the project, but also builds good conversation between fans and the actors, as they’re more involved with the community.
Yup. Like The Witcher/ Henry Cavill
yeah
He still shilled here.
We need more fans like Sam. It’s so refreshing hearing people actually talk about deeper ideas and themes. Most if not all of the Star Wars channels I see either cry about woke or cry because they’ve memorized the pretend history of a fantasy franchise and seem mentally incapable of looking into the deeper ideas
@@alwaysabiggafish3305 people enjoying something is shilling. You’re genuinely not allowed to have an opinion on Star Wars unless it follows the NPC script it’s so crazy man
Sam's insight on the fantastic universe of Star Wars is never not a joy to listen to. He has such in-depth thoughts and feelings that are always so incredible to hear. I had the pleasure of meeting him at a 'con last year and got to chat about the Siege of Mandalore for a couple minutes, and he was so nice and detailed about it. A true fan if ever there was one!
What insight? I’m 4 minutes in and not only is everything he’s said just objectively wrong but also just a total superficial take on what makes a person good..
The insight he gives extends way beyond more than just four minutes. Take a look at his breakdown of the Maul/Kenobi duel from Rebels as a prime example. And when you look at the core foundations of Star Wars, it's mythologies, themes, meanings and beyond... I'd consider its contributions to the discussion of what it means to be a good person quite the opposite of superficial.
@@jayzherka4943 “He CANT have insight, I dont agree with what he’s saying!”
I love that Sam Witwer can see the good craftsmanship in Star Wars, the bad always ends up bloating my liking of the show but we definitely need more people like him.
Of course he’s going praise it so he can get more roles lol
@@lukeyost7566 At least he’s “praising” it in a way that helps us make sense of it and not just “Oh yeah I loved that it was the best thing ever”
Well yeah. Just look at the original 6 movies. There’s a ton of bad and stupid stuff in them, but we still love them.
@@InjusticeJosh
Exactly. Kind of like what Mark Hamil does when ever talking about the sequels.
He's very quick to point out the good, and he more implies what the bad is.
Because there is SOME good in Disney's canon.
The stuff that's not their own sadly, mainly the stuff that's good, already existed but within extended materials and not so much live action, or even animated.
Like Obi-Wan finding out Anakin is still alive, it was seen in a comic, but was never shown on TV/Big Screen.
It's funny hearing Sam explain the Obi-Wan/Vader stuff, but when the subject switches to Reeva, he kind of gets a little disinterested and just kind of gives off her main plot points.
Pretty funny, you can tell he loves Star Wars (and doesn't want to be black listed)
@@InjusticeJosh don’t feel comfortable and people in lying
For the love of all things Star Wars, Disney get this mans back so he can be a Starkiller in the games and the cinematic universe!!! He gets it ❤
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Yeah but since we are in the Disney cinematic universe would you rather not have a starkiller or having him but MAJORLY NERFED. Starkiller in the Disney cinematic universe can't have all these cool force abilities that he had in the games since Disney redconned them
If they brought back hayden they’ll 100 percent bring back sam
@@maximosnikolaidis7026 starkiller wasn't as powerful as he was in the games, everyone was op in tfu. people like luke or ahsoka could have pulled star destroyers out of the sky too if they were in that game.
@@thescruffinator8830 His force abilities are still busted regardless of which game or movie he's in. I think him remaining in the expanded universe is the better option.
I have been lucky enough to meet and talk with Sam Witwer 2 time's in my life Such a Kind man, Thanks for sharing this love this💯👏
How has Sam not been cast in a live action show or movie for Star Wars? Maybe let's get a show with Starkiller in it!
Well, he was in "Solo" indirectly, returning to voice Maul and Ray Park being the physical presence again.
There's a rumor going around that Christian bale has been cast as starkiller in a upcoming star wars project
I think that’s the problem is that starkiller uses his likeness, therefore he either plays live action starkiller some day, or they cast him in a new role as a different/new character and forget his role as starkiller, or they simply allow him to voice maul and maybe some other characters and he never plays a live action character at all, but I believe they are saving him for live action starkiller some day
I can answer that hes a white man lol
@@Dp_is_Op yeah nah.
From the moment Anakin said, "I'm a person. My name is Anakin," Qui-Gon should have understood that he could not be a Jedi. Say what you will about the blindness of Yoda and Mace in the prequel era, they both agreed he was too old, and they were right, but it wasn't because of his attachment to his mother. Anakin's conception of his personhood is how he coped with the reality of being a slave. What the Jedi offered demanded that he sacrifice his sense of self. When Darth Vader "killed" Anakin, he destroyed his sense of personhood, and he does not regret it, because he believes he was responsible for the death of Padme. The Tragedy of Anakin Skywalker is that he re-enslaved himself.
The thing is, Qui-Gon was going to train Anakin in the ways of the Force even if it meant leaving the Jedi Order. But he died and Anakin, who was in the real need of a father figure, was placed in the care of Obi-Wan. Their relationship wasn't that of a father and son but that of siblings. That naturally fosters rivalry, even if it's subconscious. The story of Anakin Skywalker is about the importance of the whole nuclear family. No child can reach his full potential without both a mother and a father. Anakin needed both, which is why Palpatin ensnared him so easily.
The whole Jedi Order was absolutely wrong about separating children from their families. Well, what they did certainly worked for their goal of making perfect unquestioning zealot soldiers, but definitely not for the kids' wellbeing. That goes really well with the idea of losing the sense of self, all in the name of greater good, and how it causes so much grief in the end.
I know people like to harp on the Prequels and how George went all crazy because nobody told him "no," but the themes of the family and the parent/child bond are in the center of the whole 6 movies because of the way the Prequels were written. That's what made it so timeless.
It is that demand that one sacrifice themselves, their individuality and their place in the mortal world, that is what makes the Jedi no better than the Sith. To demand such indifference is unbelievably cruel. And that's the thing; the opposite of love is NOT hate, but indifference. Hate comes from a place of love. To know hate is to know love. To only feel indifference, is to not feel love at all.
To be 100% honest the prophecy did say that the chosen would balance the force in which he did as he destroyed the sith and the jedi by doing what he did the force is like nature you cant bend and control it to one side, it always balances it self out. The jedi did an error taking in anakin, but so did the sith and they both got destroyed by the balance of the force. I feel like anakin was the best character to show that in life you always need balance as one path or the other is always going to be destructive to those around you.
The main problem was that things did not play out as Qui-Gon wanted them to in the first place. Qui-Goin wanted the Jedi to embrace what Anakin was and train him properly. Had they done so, things would've turned out differently. He was The Chosen One, but Qui-Gon was the only one who could sense the potential where everyone else saw a threat. This distrust in Anakin, was what made Anakin turn. Qui-Gon was able to see what was right for the Force rather than the Council, hence why he never wanted to be on the Council. Qui-Gon saw the error of the Jedi ways and knew that Anakin could lead them in a better direction. But in the end, Yoda & Mace pushed him away and left him with a complete novice, Obi-Wan Kenobi, who was still a Padawan himself?! That was why Anakin turned to the dark side. After he was pushed away from the Jedi, this was the only way for him to fulfill the prophecy. Following Qui-Gon's death, Anakin should've been trained by either Mace or Yoda. That was the breaking point in the story - Leaving him with Obi-Wan was their biggest mistake
@@DansilSchroederit’s not really, if you think about it from the perspective of a Jedi, they wield this power that if misused is a capable of great destruction, and one of the things that lead to the Dark Side is succumbing to negative emotions (Fear, Anger, Greed, Jealousy etc.) so in a way, the Jedi need to detach themselves from attachment and to a certain extent emotion, because as many fallen Jedi have proved, the path to the dark side is one easily traveled down and is paved with good intentions. To say that the Jedi are no better than the Sith is also imo incorrect, the Sith seek to serve the self, not the force, they seek to destroy, corrupt and enslave the galaxy and it’s inhabitants and desire more and more power without thought to those they are harming, say what you will about the Jedi, are they flawed? Absolutely, are there things they do that I disagree with morally? For sure, but fundamentally their order is based on selfless principles in service to the force and innocent life, the complete opposite of the Sith
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"Should you choose to add this to your version of Star Wars"
I love that he uderstands that ultimately we decide what Star Wars is for us, individually, not the people who own the rights to it.
His thoughts and description of the force ghosts is similar to what they did in the Mortis Arc in Clone Wars, where Obi-Wan sees Qui-Gon and questions how it is possible and Qui-Gon tells him that he's there because of Obi-Wan, like a conduit pulling him into existence/physical imagery
It’s so cool to hear someone who was involved in Twilight of the Apprentice voicing praise for this show doing “it’s like poetry”
I used to like this guy now I love this guy!! He verbalizes his thoughts so well and has such respect for fellow actors and their work. His show Being Human was so underrated.
The simplest explanation for Qui-Gon being able to manifest himself as a force ghost in Obi-Wan is that he learned it while communing with Yoda after he went through the trials in TCW. I base this off Filoni speculating that Obi-Wan and Yoda would've taught Anakin how to become a force ghost after he was redeemed so he could appear to Luke at the end of ROTJ. Rebels supports this theory too with how Kanan was able to linger as a spirit of sorts and manifest through that wolf Dume, before finally passing on. So if a Jedi has unfinished business there is like a window of time where they're in limbo between the living force and the cosmic force, and in that space between life and death they can still learn to maintain their consciousness if another force ghost is willing to teach them.
Agreed
Nope just shitty writing.
it doesnt count if you write the story for them
@@spikespiegel7964 Your criticisms of omission of information don't count if you require every single thing in the entire story to be explain for you to like it. A story that leaves specific explanations up to interpretation after they provide you sufficient information, which they do, is good.
@@lexark except we know thats NOT what Disney or Lucasfilm are doing. nice strawman though
What a cool guy. So happy that someone as big of a fan as he is got to be as involved in the lore as he has. Good for him
Sam Witwer is one of my favorite actors, especially in Star Wars. It amazes me how deep he gets sometimes, and how his deep thoughts often mirror my own. Amazing guy and incredible actor.
I actually thought that was what was left of Anakin, giving his old friend relief and screaming for help to lure him closer and kill him
complete trash.
This man signed my Kobe’s at Star Wars celebration
I love that he says “if you choose to include this in your version of star wars.” What a great way to view that, that we all get to pick and choose what is and isn’t a part of our personal canon.
I go back and forth with Kenobi. On one hand I love the final scene and there are plenty of scenes throughout that I would go back and watch on their own, but it kind of weakens Kenobi’s dialogue in a new hope and makes the finale of revenge of the sith less special. I love seeing more of the relationship between Vader and Kenobi but the more time they spend together in between episodes III and IV, it takes away from both movies so I tend not to include it.
I tend to agree that the more time Ben and Vader spend in each other's presence between RotS and ANH dilutes the impact of both, but I also think the show balanced that with giving us just enough that the two scenes they do share give us value as the audience without diluting the impact of the movies so much that they're worse for it overall. For Ben in particular, I think their scenes together, along with Ben's interactions with Leia, help bridge the grieving general Obi-Wan Kenobi of RotS and the weathered-but-centered old hermit Ben Kenobi of ANH.
But, that's just how I view Star Wars, and I agree that we all get to decide which parts have value for us and which don't.
Works better with it being a fan project as far as story goes. Show completely introduces plot holes into already established story.
That's how I've always viewed star wars, it just feels better that way with how much lore there is between canon and legends.
@Justahuman what?
I find that viewpoint a consistent frustration I have with the Star Wars fandom. You don't get to choose what is and isn't a part of the continuity, you aren't the writer. You can choose what you like, what you feel does the series justice, but you don't get to choose what is and isn't part of your "personal" canon. You don't decide canon. You take the good with the bad, and the bad often has an effect on the good.
To see Obi-Wan feeling so guilty about Anakin's turn to the dark side makes total sense. Obi basically straightaway became a master after just being a padawan. The responsibility he bore was too much to handle (especially with Anakin's temperament). From his perspective, he is completely at fault for things turning out the way they did.
Thereby I was very happy to see him overcome this guilt and realizing that he couldn't have saved Anakin, that Anakin chose this path.
He has now freed himself from the emotional ties that prevented him from truly becoming a master and is ready to pass on his teachings to Luke in the OT.
im a canon purist so i never wanted Vader and Kenobi to fight, I agree with your comment about Kenobi's growth as a character but i feel like he could have done this without Kenobi fighting Vader.
i like to think Kenobi would have spent his time growing his character and overcoming his trauma, guilt and his fear of death, knowing that one day he WILL have to face Vader again, his own apprentice, but this time he has complete trust in the force and he will let Vader strike him down, he will willingly fall so Luke will succeed.
realistically Kenobi should have come to the conclusion that Anakin was too far gone the moment he left him on Mustafar, not 10 years later, but thats my opinion, and my canon i guess.
Yess, agree wholeheartedly .
@@thisbubblygoodness7611 I dunno.... when you rewatch ROTS and see ANH, you can’t help but wonder why isn’t Obi-Wan shocked at Vader be8ng alive and not dead since well, burnt to a crisp at a volcano planet.
@@justinesun631 in the extended universe, Kenobi found out Vader's survival by overhearing other normal civilians talking about the Empire's recent victory thanks to a 'boogie man weapon' called Darth Vader.
and i believe the Empire may have even used Vader's image as propaganda to instill a degree of fear, like posters or something (im pretty sure)
so he managed to be able to see what Vader looked like without ever having to confront Vader himself.
and in my opinion, Kenobi confronting Vader on the death star without ever having physically seen him before, and NOT be phased by it, is 10 times more of a flex in confidence and trust in the force, then Kenobi confronting Vader '9 years later' after their duel in the Kenobi series
@@thisbubblygoodness7611 It still should be shocking to Obi-Wan seeing Vader face-to-face. That's why I personally liked the Kenobi series.
Between Maul, Starkiller and Crashdown from Battlestar Galactica this dude is practically a Sci-Fi God and yet still just as much of a fan as the rest of us. One of my favorite on screen and voice actors ever, keep it up Sam! Edit: all of this applies to Katie Sackhoff too with Bo Katan, Starbuck and the fandom as well.
Glad Maul is not getting jealous about someone hating Obi Wan more than himself
he has such an understanding and love for star wars, i feel like he should _write_ Force Unleashed 3
zero understanding on display here.
I love how much the actors in any Star Wars media are also huge fans. That has to be a dream come true.
You mean a nightmare, to get to play a bastardized version of your fave character??? It pains me to see so much production, studios, effects, performances go to waste because someone had an agenda or wanted to game of thrones it. It's like seeing your own child be graped in front of your eyes and you can't do anything about it. I would be ashamed to ever participate in such violent assault
I love how much of an idiot he is here.
Sam Witwer is a galactic treasure.
Such depth in understanding the characters and their actions. Thank you, Sam! It's a real treat to hear you talk about Anakin and Obi Wan
Dude everytime I see him I am all star killer
Cool to see he's such a big fan of SW in general
that scene was not only outstanding in terms of the dialogue and all of its emotional layers, but even the lighting was incredibly well done. not to mention the acting of course. one of the best star wars scenes of all time
Please tell me the emotional layers in the basic dialogue in this episode
@@emuman09 listen to what witwer said about the dialogue. That's what I was referring to when I said emotional layers
@@oliwardcomics he's wrong
@@emuman09 oh okay
i love how sam views it, everything he's worked on in star wars i've enjoyed and also loved his role in supergirl as agent liberty
This was cool, thanks for sharing it with us.
A lot of people have talked about the possibility of Corran Horn being reintroduced to canon due to some easter eggs in Kenobi, and personally I think Sam Witwer would be amazing for the role.
Hold up.... I never even considered that. Holy crap, that'd be amazing!
Great perspective on the Force ghost thing (that was one of my really minor nitpicks about Qui-Gon being back)
Sam Witwer would've made a great Grand Inquisitor.
Sam witwer is always Interesting to listen too when it comes to starwars the man is obviously a huge fan and knows alot about the characters and the lore
he was so awesome in the force unleashed i hope his character comes back into disney cannon the idea of a sith becoming a jedi is really cool story we have seen jedi turn sith or jedi giving up
The breakdown of the force ghost was so cool. I loved hearing it
Finally...someone who knows what he is talking about when it comes to Star Wars. His insights..an eye opener
I love that Sam is back. I haven't seen if anywhere except for a few months ago
He streams regularly on twitch.
Sam Witwer could talk about the composition of a can of paint and I would still be thoroughly engaged and get something out of it.
The best explanation that I can think of for Qui Gon dying but others surviving is that while Jedi accept death and feel at peace with the force, sith and dark side users are fueled by revenge and hate, and are motivated to keep fighting. Hence why Jedi can become force ghosts, because they have accepted their fates. In Reva’s case, as well as Vader, Maul, the Grand Inquisitor, and even the Emperor, they were too driven by anger to accept defeat and death.
That's a lot of cope man! It's Vader, she should have been killed multiple times when failing him and absolutely obliterated after attacking him. He wouldn't let her live. It was stupid in the same way as the trench coat. There is no explaining it. Plus you are saying that nearly all dark side users are invulnerable to explain bad writing which is just not true.
@Lord of D Lol there is no "shoulds" if you actually knew Vader.
If you knew what you were talking about, he lets Piet live with a warning "This is the last time you will fail me" as in do it again and you're dead. Piet never failed him again before dying but reva had a lot of chances and also attacked him. It is completely out of character for him not to destroy her, you should know this if you have ever watched/read the OT/EU. Even the fact she knows he is Anakin is a death sentence, that has been cannon for decades.
So what is your argument for an emotionally compromised Vader, letting obi-wan run away after the fire when he had just put it out? I thought he was so bat shit crazy he would do anything for obi-wan but he lets a 2 meter fire stop him from catching him when he is inflammable?!?
You can't have it both ways.
What you said about dark side users is true but where you are wrong is thinking this is a common trope. Not all of them can do this and to have it happen twice in 1 episode to 2 different characters is beyond dumb.
You're doing some really good mental gymnastics but that's all it is. And I don't find it stupid because I don't like it. I don't like it because it is STUPID. The whole show is. Leia interacting with Obi, Reva fighting beru and owen and meeting luke, the fucking trench coat etc. There is a hell of a lot more stupid stuff about Kenobi. It's a show made for 8 year old's and marketed to adults. And defended by shills.
The bit about the force ghosts becoming more real as luke progresses his training is amazing. I would love to meet sam and just talk about star wars at a philisophical level
8:50 I've never heard that perspective, but I love that idea.
wait Sam Witwer live streams god ive gotta check that out. Loved his performances since smallville.
Sam is a hero of mine. He is more than an actor. He is a genuine fan. The fact that when they found the voice actor of Ben Kenobi, instead of saying “don’t kill my character, I have so much more to put into him,” he says “So like, that’s the guy, right?”. Sam genuinely loves this franchise. I admire him so much.
Dude I hope Lucasfilm cast you as Revan or Cade Skywalker!
You deserve a good long running character to portray for years!
As long as they don't woke it up or turn it into an abomination, in some way.. That just seems to be Disney and "Kennedyfilm"'s thing.
Sam is out of his god damn mind if he liked that show. All respect for him out the window.
I've been saying the same thing in some video's CZcams comments. Vader is bragging about having killed Anakin, but what intentionally from him happens as a result of that brag is he absolves Obi-Wan of his guilt. Vader's like "Don't you dare take credit for killing Anakin dude, that was all me. That's MY accomplishment."
Really cool what Sam said about the "weakness still remains" line. I hadn't fully understood what Vader was referring to there yet. Doubt is the difference between a good person who tries to find the good in the worst people and an extremist. That's also why Reva couldn't kill Luke. Although she has fallen far, she still has doubt about whether or not killing Luke will bring her peace.
Anyone remember him playing Davis Bloom aka Smallville’s version of Doomsday?
Love hearing this guy talk about star wars love him acting in it more he needs to play a live action character Starkiller or otherwise
It's about time for a live action maul tv show👀
it would be ray park who portrays maul
Plus Sam would be Galen Marek (Starkiller) in live action
@@ogofficer Sam does the voice
Was this on twitch? Would love to see it next time!
Holy shit. He’s playing HBS BattleTech
Yeah i was like wtf, nice taste hehe
He’s been playing baldurs gate 2 and x com as well recently lol
absolutely amazing insights. respect
"Did you guys see that space show?"
i can listen to sam talk space all day
What the he'll is with the random black screen for the last several minutes of the video??
Lol the helmet thing was FIloni texting him
He pronounced Hayden's last name correctly. Nice!
Where does Sam post this stuff?
Nothing to see here, just Darth Maul talking about his good friend Kenobi
Swear they had a youtube boxing match
Sam is a gem 💎...I personally wasn't a fan of the show but I can see the good parts and throw the parts I didn't like in my mental trashcan.
When the student is ready, the Master will appear. Which is why Qui-Gon didn’t appear until Obi Wan had mastered the force again.
We need a starkiller film!!!
Star Killer is still plugged into my version of StarWars.
I really hope I get to meet Sam one day
I can’t imagine being one of those people trying to argue what Star Wars means with SAM WITWER.
Awesome insight
All the usual “Disney bad” suspects are the ones ignoring this clip.
Focusing on the good aspects of something doesn’t mean you think it’s good overall. Also publicly criticizing the work of your employers is usually not a good idea
Homie doesn't want to upset the mouse
he‘s so smart
Love that one comment saying Starkiller would be the First Brother
matt latner made the same comment about how only Luke could take the whole helmet off
When are they going to do a darth maul show with Sam Witwer? Keep hearing rumors but never happens 🫤
Why the hell can’t Starkiller get a show or movie? He’s straight up the coolest character in the saga.
Simple.... Disney
The problem with that is they would have to nerf him cause he was more powerful then vader in the games and could even become more powerful to kill palpatine
@@xUseTheForks Or they could just set his character in the future/away from the OT in general. The whole Vader/Palpatine part of his story really were the weaker parts anyway
Deep as fuck wow he's an awesome member of the Fandom!
I wanna see Sam return as Starkiller.
I think that Qui-Gon couldn’t fully manifest himself before because of his inability to Accept Anakins Future as Darth Vader, Yoda’s training consists of knowing yourself, your darkside, your fears and the future and letting go and coming to acceptance, when anakin kills the tuskins Qui-gon screams “no” implying he hasn’t come to terms with Anakins future so it’s reasonable to assume after Anakin falls to the darkside Qui gon is then able to accept his fate and complete his training
I found out Sam hangs out with Glenn Howerton ....Damn it I want to hang out with these two guys!
At the end there when he talked about Qui-Gon not appearing to Luke because "he's never met the guy" I was expecting someone would jump onto that statement to say "then what about when Lucas replaced Sebastian Shaw with Hayden?" I would have liked to hear Sam's response to that.
It’s still Anakin tho, so you answered you’re own question
@@wingthomaux I didn't ask the question, I'm fully aware he is still Anakin. I only said that I was expecting that someone who doesn't like that change to the movie would jump in to ask Sam "then how do you justify this?" Because I know these people have the argument that: Why would Anakin show up in a way Luke has never seen him and wouldn't recognise him?
@@starlighter930617 he didn’t know the Shaw version either. Should Anakin appear in his burned 1/2 human version, floating without legs?
Is that the Ice Truck Killer?
Idk why but seeing him play battletech is mind boggling.
I wonder if Sam Witwer watches Auralnauts spoof of Kenobi aka "Larry"
What a cool guy (:
Love him as Deacon and Starkiller
Waiting on a live action star killer being integrated idc if he gets nerfed I just want to see him canon again
I don't think they tried hard enough on Reva's story. An Inquisitor story line would've been so interesting but it did not fit in the show. There was so much explanation missing and I would be less nitpicky about it if they simply explained how all these people keep surviving lightsaber wounds that killed Qui Gon lol
That's because the writer changed her character from the original script and didn't bother to fix the holes from changing her motivations, lol.
@@willfanofmanyii3751 Reva shouldn't have been in the script at all, her character serves very little purpose in a show that should be solely dedicated to Obi-Wan's and Darth Vader's relationship.
Had they introduced Reva in an Inquisitor's show about hunting Jedi, perhaps as the main protagonist, they could have built her character up properly, exploring her motivations and past and I bet she would have been received far better by fans. At least fans would know what they are getting in such a show, instead of shoehorning a new character into a show that should be solely focused on two legacy characters. The Kenobi show tried to focus on her arc too much, and no one wanted that because fans tuned in to see Obi-Wan and Vader, which caused resentment. It felt very much like a bait and switch. It didn't help matters when Star Wars came out and started implying there are a lot of racist fans that will say mean things to the actress. It's the internet, people say mean things because they can get away with it, this is nothing new and has nothing to do with racism. But the implication was if you criticised the character of Reva, you are a racist and toxic fan.
All this drama could have been avoided with better decision-making...
She was a youngling who used the dark side to survive getting stabbed by Anakin when she was a kid and then grew up to be an angry psycho hell bent on revenge lol her story was pretty clear man.
@@highlivin1917 When the hell did the writers imply she used the Dark Side as a child to survive a stab wound to the chest? That should be a fatal injury to anyone, ask Qui Gon Jinn, he's calling Bullsh*t in the corner. Then after surviving what did she do? Apply to join the inquisitors as a ten-year-old with a stab wound that should have killed her almost instantly like her friends? Do you really think Vader would be that sloppy as to leave someone alive? Why recruit a child when you could turn surviving Temple Guards, Padawans and Jedi Knights into Inquisitors? The writers explain none of this. Instead, fans of the show are writing their own head canon to justify crappy writing.
@@jonarbuckle778 for her to have survived. she would have to use the dark side. so using our thinking skills we can infer that she started to fall to the dark at that young age.
My fav star wars character. Was awesome in days gone too but starkiller was my guy
Wait, Sam witwer plays Mech Warrior?
Wth is the background, I can’t figure it out
He's playing a game called Battletech.
I'd absolutely *love* to see Witwer appear as a live-action character in Star Wars, just not as Starkiller. I'd even be down for him playing Galen Marek, just not as the OP apprentice of Vader.
I'd personally love to see force unleashed become canon but in a way that brings starkiller more in line with other characters. I loved his family crest being the symbol of the rebellion and I loved his arc
Which game is this btw lol?
So was Sam or Azugo playing Battletech?
Sam. Overlaying him and his chat over myself would be weird. His twitch is linked in the description.
I want a Starkiller series
The Force ghost thing is one of the few Star Wars related things that I disagree with Sam on. I agree that it somewhat relies on the person who the ghost is trying to speak to but I feel like it also slightly cheapens the training it requires to become a Force ghost because you can partially complete it now and still get the full benefits of it. Normally I’d just treat it as a nitpick but now that I’ve seen how lightsaber wounds are treated and in comparison with the past, I can see how much of a slippery slope these things can become.
The process of becoming a Force Ghost is a very taxing procedure where you have to have the sentience to rip yourself from your euphoric mesh with the force, which in itself is a very painful process. Then you have to pick where you what time period and location you want to appear in while also building a physical form capable of being seen in the material world. That’s the reason the training is so important, to prepare you for what’s to come. If no one calls it out, how long will it be before the training is no longer required to become a Force Ghost?
Sam Witwer is awesome.
MECHWARRIOR? HELL YEAH.
4:48 Play on 2X speed and tell me that's not a Wookiee
Sam Witwer is a cool dude.
Is this Sam's channel?
Nah. His twitch is in the description if you wanna check that.
sam just doesn't miss
It sucks that he’s got to be so careful about what he says about Disney content. But ai understand his position and wouldn’t want him not being involved in their version of “based on” Star Wars.
With all the starkiller rumors for kenobi s2 Sam better be starkiller if he shows up