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Thanks for the link. Side note, while I know the elemental planes are separate, with pockets. But I have always imagined them as one plane, each a pocket of the primary plane. For example, the material plane being the combination of all the planes that surround it. So I also imagine the elemental planes as endless infinite bleeds into one another. So the sea, endlessly dives into the depths, with pockets of earth that floats within it. Broken off, from the plane of earth that sits beside it, and in that, the sea of fire, which bleeds into the earth (magma, etc) while the plane of air sits above them all, as infinite as the others. For as far as the earth stretches so does the sky. That 'sun' being the bleed of the plan of fire. That's kinda the way I imagine it.
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I mean specifically in reference to the changes in 5e.
Dolphins don’t breathe water, hence the need of air in the plane of water
You are finally getting to the part of DnD I am actually interested in. I want all the info
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"It's actually pretty chill in the elemental plane of water.."
"Oh also there are sea creatures out there thousands of feet long, and all the fish are carnivorous."
all fish are carnivorous & this is heaven where you go to live peacefully forever... as food? are they sure its not hell instead?
@@teddys5775 its heaven for water elementals and merids, which makes sense since they are made of water
@@teddys5775 It's heaven sure, but nobody said they lived peacefully. Not all afterlives are peaceful. It's certainly a pleasant one. I'd rather be food here than be food in the Abyss. Also, I believe it's more that the afterlives of the aquatic deities are here. So the spots governed by them are heaven. The rest is just comfortable.
@@lawaern3474 Besides, why wouldn’t you want to have the chance to experience the thrill of a hunt again, or the terrifying but exhilarating feeling of fleeing in a chase, if all your life those had been some of your most exciting activities?
@@GuiSmith Excellent point. Plenty of dnd afterlives are all about danger. The ironically named Warrior's Rest comes to mind. Also the never ending war between Maglubeyet and Gruumsh is an afterlife for their servants.
I don't even play DnD but I absolutely love to listen details about its world lore. Especially when they narrated with such great enthusiasm
You’re the majority. Most people don’t play. They just really like fantasy lore.
Just giving you the building blocks to make a world when you do.
@@generaljedi8691 Definitely this. If you enjoy the lore and settings, write your own stories! One day a game may fall in your lap, and you'll be prepared.
There are allot of books set in this world, many good.
That would explain why lotr sold so well... (Sarcasm aside). There are literally hundreds of thousands of fantasy novels. Highly recommend anything TOR(publisher) or any forgotten realms novels. Specifically Ed Greenwood or R.A Salvatore(Athans for Thay is amazing too)
To be honest, 5e DMG on p. 52 states that in their 5e incarnation, Inner Planes are Prime-like "closer" to Material Plane, and the further you go, the moretthey become like classic Elemental Planes, nigh-devoid of alien substances, before dissolving into 4e-style Elemental Chaos. So, really, you can have it any way you like.
this the one time i think he overthought about it when its easy to explain hes to hung up on previous lore
How would that even work though? How would a world with a sky suddenly turn into an infinite ocean without said ocean collapsing upon it? And this addition is pretty redundant since, like he said, it stops being a elemental realm and becomes just a regular ocean
@@Gabrielzinho7891235 I kind of like the fact it doesn't make sense. I feel like the planes _shouldn't_ make sense, as they are supposed to be beyond mortal understanding.
@@Gabrielzinho7891235 three possibilities
1) a main toroidal channel/ring has developed that loops through all the planes, into which pockets of the opposing element tend to collect and flow away, the sun described is not a literal sun, it's a large pocket of elemental fire making its way through the ring back to the plane of fire
2) these are magical elemental planes that aren't supposed to make sense
To be fair, in our campaign, there are these transitive planes in-between the Prime Material and the Inner Planes that are 'Prime-Like', as you mention, except with more elemental nature to them. In this case, such a water-dominant 'Prime-Like' plane that would correspond more or less to the plane described in the 5E DMG would transition into the actual Elemental Plane of Water, endless ocean in every direction and all.
Not saying that's how it is in canon D&D, but you can build your setting however you like, but it can make sense and gives lots of opportunity for adventure. We actually have a refuge on such a plane, for example.
The whole "endless expanse of infinite water filled with hungry toothy nightmarefuel titans" would for sure make me disinclined to take my next vacation in this plane. xD
I mean. Glass City seemed nice enough I suppose. I don't think I'd stray too far from there though.
*Me to my party* Guess where the BBEG is sending you
Subnautica veteran: "Those are rookie numbers".
As a marine biologist I would live here.
Okay Jotaro
Just remember "Nothing's free in Water World"
@@DocVanfox I google can't censor my comments in water world then it is worth the price.
Not for long.
As someone with thalassophobia, I would definitely not live here
"Other than deadly water elementals, deadly sea creatures, delay parasites and deadly acids, the plane of water is pretty chill." Sounds about right.
Does doesn't it :D
"..Are Carnivores" ah yes, the elemental plane of Thalassophobia
HONESTLY, as someone with Thalassophobia, this sounds beautiful and terrifying
The Elemental plane of Subnautica
"You are leaving the safe waters." *Loud eerie cry*
Detecting multiple leviathan class lifeforms in the region, are you certain whatever you're doing is worth it?
CITY OF GLASS please!!!! we are in the plane of water now
That's a bit awkward considering that the second layer of Arborea was even described as "like the plane of water EXCEPT it has bottom and surface"...
Imagine being born in the D&D universe, just to be eaten by the Kraken.
being eaten by one is probably better than most other things it can do to you
Imagine being immune to krakens or being part kraken. Also using reverse gravity here is going to lead to some hilarious results.
@@andresmarrero8666 Reverse Gravity, by definition, does not work on a plane that has none. Which means that reverse gravity does not work on the plane of water.
@@Krishnath.Dragon but the plan of water does have gravity, it just simply doesn't have an up or down. This is simply because there is matter in that plane. I can garrenty that you are going to be attracted naturally to a gaint coral clump simply because it is a giant blob of mass and therefore has its own gravitational pull which affects currents currents and the like. So there is gravity, it is just that without a core drawing everything it is more similar to space. If there is matter and mass then there is gravity and that is no different in the plane of water. Heck even the water itself has gravity. Because there is no core to pull everything together, reverse gravity is going to have some rather strange interactions.
@@andresmarrero8666 Because the plane doesn't have an up or down, it doesn't have gravity by definition. Gravity is what sets up and down. It is the defining trait of gravity. >.
I want a video about Blidoolpoolp, a 20-minutes video where you have to pronounce its name several times.
Could you imagine swimming along in the elemental plain when all of the sudden you see a giant shark
off in the distance, or the water itself just starts attacking you for seemingly no reason ,that would be terrifying.
And the giant shark hits boiling water and starts to dissolve before getting to you. Only for you to spot some pocket of land in the distance, an island maybe.... except... it's moving... and upon a closer look you can see tentacles and teeth and eyes... And it is moving for you.
I was hoping for plane of earth but water is kinda cool
Just wondering if he will cover the para/quasi elemental planes too
That would be amazing
but the plane of water isn't cool. it's the perfect temperature
@@Piemasta9000 what I you think cool water is the perfect temperature?
This Planar series is giving me life man. I can't wait for the Outer Planes, especially the inevitable video on Carceri. :)
And once the outer planes is done, we need a video on the plane beyond the outer planes, the aptly named Far Realm.
@@Krishnath.Dragon Yea but what about the Far-er Realm?
@@butHomeisNowhere___ There is literally nothing beyond the far realm, that we know of.
@@Krishnath.Dragon woosh
Fully expecting a 'city of sass' in the plane of air at this point...
Hopefully a city of ass doesn't exist
@@notrod5341
That's from the plane of Earth (Not really but it's a joke).
"There's always a bigger fish." - Qui-Gon Jinn
Wait a sec. City of Brass and City of Glass? I'm calling it now that the next ones are the Cities of Grass and Gas.
Fuck this, I'm going to the city of ass.
@@d4n4nable PFFF-
@@d4n4nable In the plane of Uranus
Me, a magic the gathering player:
Hears that the fire people are more organized than the water people
*confused screaming*
Knowing how pompous a lot of them are, a realm where that aspect is coalesced kinda makes sense
Well, we're in a different crystal sphere (refer to other videos) then the magic universe (Ravnica? vs Forgotten Realms)
@@TheFuriousBrother The elemental planes doesn't belong to a single crystal sphere though.
@@Carewolf The Forgotten Realms elemental planes do, however
@@garlicg4532 But this material was from Planescape which wasn't specific to Forgotten realms? Though I am not sure the whole spelljammer and planescape settings really combine perfectly.
Ah yes, my second choice for a favorite elemental plain right after elemental plain of air. Was waiting for this patiently and am really glad I don't have to anymore. Love your work!
I would describe the light and darkness as places that are closer to the positive and negative elemental planes.
I would also describe the so-called "surface" the place where the water, air, and earth, elemental planes meet.
The pseudo demi-plane of beach episode.
This is the interpretation I use for my games! The inner planes have "near" and "far" dimensionality. In the "near" regions, the other three elements are still fairly common; the plane of water has a surface and a seafloor, the plane of fire has solid ground (also the City of Brass is here), etc. As you go "farther", the element becomes increasingly pure until nothing except pure elementals can live, and even they are more of a conscious moving through the medium than physically travelling it. The "farther" you go on the plane of water, the deeper it gets until there is neither a surface nor a bottom. Don't try to understand the geometry of how that works, we're already talking about infinite-yet-bounded spaces here
@@elekbuday81 thank you for your elucidation.
When drawn in three dimensions, on a two-dimensional surface, you sort of get a cube turned on its point, interpretation of the relative location of the inner planes.
I think of this as a flatlander's interpretation of a hypercube situation.
So while North, East, South, West, up, and down, are decent abstractions for direction, it's more complicated than that.
If a planer traveler for example, were to travel in a perfectly straight line, they would pass through all six elements as well as all the sub element planes, and end up exactly where they started. This is different from traveling along a sphere for example, we're a straight line gets you either around a longitude or a latitude.
In a hyper-dimensional space you travel along both at the same time.
Wait, do the positive and negative energy planes emit light/reduce it? They've always seemed to be closer related to life-force than lighting, to me at least. It also seems strange that air and earth are meeting in the same place.
@@lawaern3474 I think of them as two white holes (the opposite of a black hole). One emits matter and energy, the other anti-matter and energy, like two mini ongoing big-bangs. Stuff happens when these two forces are in imbalance.
In D&D things can emit darkness in the same way that light is emitted.
@@jtjames79 So you think of them as completely different from what they were then? Maybe put that alongside your interpretation of the whole thing in the future then? Since you've shared, I'll share my own. The positive plane is where all the stuff of life comes from, many healings spells draw power from it. The negative energy plane is the cause of entropy; the stuff from it acts like a vacuum, but for that "life-stuff". This is the source of many more direct damaging necromancy spells, the ones that deal necrotic.
On a side note, as I probably should have added myself, I tend to shy away from the idea of darkness being emittable, like light. Since I have had many players who assume all the IRL laws of physics apply to the magic in dnd, and also can't seem to remember my fantasy-physics.
Glad you are doing a video on this because my 1st Villain is a storm mage who, in my new campaign, is trying to flood (and destroy) a city by opening up a portal to the elemental plane of water. And getting more details about it is super helpful 😅
You might be interested in knowing that the Elemental Plane of Water is where all Aboleths reform after a few weeks-months when their bodies are destroyed.
Friend and I have a suggestion about Blibdoolpoolp's name - it should sounds like it's being spoken underwater, made to resemble the sound of bubbles slipping out of a tank.
So, here's my question. If I breath out a bubble, where does it go?
It just goes, unless there's something on the path
What do you mean? It just stays a bubble forever unless it’s teleported out. Are you asking a displacement question? Because that’s actually a good point.
the bubble doesnt displace anything. when people teleport into the water plane, water isnt displaced. its just moved. if the plane is infinitely packed full of water, then there is an infinite amount of space for it to go. and if there is displacement/nuclear fusion, the gods would deal with it.
Well...if you not breathing water, you probably won’t be breathing out bubbles very long.
Presumably, the bubble would float in front of you and not move unless some sort of force(eg a current) was applied to it. And unlike outer space, the resistance from the water would cause it to slow down if the force is not constant.
And to those that say that the water can't be displaced, it can, otherwise it would be impossible to move in the place since your own body would be unable to displace water and the plane would have infinite water pressure instead of none
Just coming through to say I love your channel, whenever I see you dropped a new video I get incredibly hyped, never thought I'd be that invested in youtube content before.
Listened to this while playing Subnautica mentioned how creatures can grow with no limits and my mind went right to the gargantuan leviathan.
Ghost levs can grow to the size of the aurora and further.
So... Endless ammount of water in all directions, that is home to Impossibly big carnivorous creatures, and, regardless of how much you swim, you can never reach the surface?
Yup, i am definitely not going there
*Sonic drowning Music starts*
I don’t see how air doesn’t exist in Elemental Plane of Water since for water to exist it needs oxygen. This concept also applies to Plane of Fire as well.
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I’m not sure what gods to request since I haven’t had the chance to play DnD, but the more lore, the better. You do a fantastic job of narration
I think whoever wrote that blurb about 5th Edition Elemental Plane of Water just really, really likes Waterworld.
One side of the plane of water is endless depth that can have the great pressures and multitude of expressions of water. While the other leads to a sky that expresses water even into space in the form of icy asteroids.
Fish breathe oxygen and the part of what water does is dilute things. You may find a pocket of water that can dilute any individual's strongest emotion.
There are sections that exemplify aquifers. As well as permeated water through a mountain.
When Travelers expect to find fish..then they relegate themselves to only a small portion of what the plane of water has to offer it.
Godzilla is Canon?
Hopefully this will lead to an adventure with Godzooky lol
If it wasn't copyright it would be
I have to confess. I listen to d & d lore videos to pass out at night. But..I click on yours first as soon as I see them.
I dunno, I personally like the idea of there being a surface with air and a sun. Sure the elemental plane of water is basically the size of a Dyson Sphere in Star Trek but there is enough "earth" to make small islands for crabs and such as well as foundations and materials for sea life to make use of but is otherwise Waterworld. The only "fire" is basically the sun that streaks across the sky far above the air that supplies oxygen and storms for this fishy plane of existence.
I'd like to imagine large floating masses of bioluminescence algae to simulate the sun underwater
This is awesome, the plane of water is my favorite plane, i really like the genie's and elemental planes in general, they have to be my favorite things in d&d, so I'm glad you are covering them. hopefully we get a "What they don't tell you about the genasi" someday because i think that would fit well with your current video themes :)
my solution to the conflict in the lore is that the inner parts of the inner planes are less pure and have more of the other elements in them. So near the edge the plane of water has a rock bottom and air above the surface but if you go far enough out it because infinite pure water in all directions
Maybe, but the sleet region of ice is way more cool. And that doesn't explain the stupid "sun".
Normally I'm a bit scared of deep seas but this place actually seems nice
Like swimming in one giant kiddy pool.
@@snorgonofborkkad yeah pretty much. Ironically I love the sea and swimming but the deep dark depths that could hide anything is just not pleasant to me at all. This place hides plenty of horrid things but it's all well illuminated and looks nice so it's ok somehow
My favourite plane out of the 4! one of the easiest and funnest to explore, all you need is a water breathing potion and darkvision!
If you watched the video he explains that there are no dark parts of the plane.
19:35 As your graphic shows, acidic solutions have a lower pH than neutral solutions.
My bad, in my head I meant to say that it increases the PH down lol. It's like when you say you want to increase the Air Conditioner when you really mean you want to lower the temperature.
@@MrRhexx I'm a nitpicker. Thankfully for my marriage I've learned to suppress it around my wife! Thank you for your content.
"If the demand is great."
My friend, just make it and we will watch. You do a great job :-)
I love your videos, they relax me, they bring a beautiful sense of wonder to my imagination and my mind. I fall a sleep to these vids, thank you getting me into the fantastical world of DnD.
So lore-wise it would stand to reason there could be a surface if it was vacuum + rain falling and the islands were made of ice? 'cause that could be pretty dang cool
Aboleths are also more prevalent here.
The visuals, the music, the descriptions, really make it come alive in my mind. I just sat down, relaxed, and immersed myself into the plane of water, with its deep lore. I had to stop watching a few times to take care of things, but would always look forward to continuing. Thanks for doing the thing.
Here's my idea for thinking of both. Bubbles of the material plane form as intense storms creating a shell around air with a mirage of the sun from the material plane. Gravity pushes to the edge of the bubbles, as the plane of water tugs on the occupants of the bubble. These bubbles can be large enough to encompass entire islands, but one thing is consistent between them, they are not static. Despite being a bubble, the insides feel as though one is in the eye if a hurricane, rough waters towards the edges, and calm toward the centers, surrounded by an ever moving wall of storms. Any island inside will eventually be reclaimed by the plane of water, as the edges move ever closer, some faster than others.
I know we're on the plane of water and just finished the plane of fire, but I just caught this now as you mentioned it. How is there no air on the plane of fire? Fire can't burn without oxygen.
Air ≠ oxygen. Air is composed more of nitrogen than oxygen.
Besides, you’re applying logic where dragons, fairies, and magic exist. For all we know, fire uses completely different elements in the fantasy realm(s).
It also has the most wet of all waters. lol.
But... water is not wet.
@@leguan278 It is if you put water on it.
I love that you take time to go into what editions you are pulling from and that you DO pull from different edittions instead of whatever the most current one is.
6:30 think there can be gravity where there is mass, so an elemental plane made purely of water will still have gravity, and things would sink to the centre of the plane, where the centre/core is depends on the shape of the plane, if it is disk shaped it will be at the centre of the disk, if it is irregular it will still have a centre of gravity.
Ah yes the "endless seafood buffet" dimension
The water plane: Everything is cool, 'till you pee in the pool
Which will be diluted until almost 0% concentration given how infinite the plane is. So no worries, unless you swim into a pool of .. such that is just freshly released. What is more worrying will be the solid materials released. Wont they technically gather and clump together to form huge piles of ... substances.
That is a weighty matter to ponder about
I wonder if there's an elemental plane of urine...
@@newtondood woudl be para elemantal plane tbh mix of ooze and water
@MrRhexx PLEASE DO A PLANE OF WATER SECTION ABOUT DEEP SEA HORRORS AND DEEP SEE ABYSS INHABITANTS
I think making it all water with no sky or small islands just cuts out so many diverse ecosystems that id associate with the plane of water. The plane of fire isn't just pure fire; there's ground and cities in places. Bits of earth float in the plane of air. Having very rare islands and a surface also makes it more interesting to interact with. Ships on the material plane can be transported there - spending their days lost on an endless sea, for example.
Is it possible that the "surface" of the plane of water is actually the 5e version of the quasi plane, but rather than a plane of ice it just goes from water to air?
Since there are spells to breathe rock, fire and water. Could you confirm if there is a spell called Breathe Air?
there is spells to breath earth,fire and such.
ın 2e we know air breathing spell is reverse of water breathing
and we get spells of earth breathing and fire breathing.
and acording his words we have spells of breath dust, salt, and such
Yes it is called "drowning"
Great explanation! My headcanon: imagine 3 axis, xyz. X axis is salinity, y axis is light, and z axis is heat. The plane of water varies in those three bases on the direction you travel. Although it's easy to find the point of 50% salinity, you'd have a hard time finding the midpoint of the other two to locate the true center of the plane. And the limits of the axis would be where the plane of water touches another elemental plane. Each type of creature lives in an area of the plane that matches its natural habitat. I still agree that anything requiring soil or air would have to live on essentially a floating orb of that element.
Also in teh Elemental Planes I like to think the coin of trade is chunks of elemental material from other elemental planes, with which denizens of the planes build their realms and islands.
Let's go swim yall!
There is a surface, its where the plane of water tuches the plane of air, but the whole water presure should only exist near the plane of earth and the 5th edition description is dumb.
Quote from the 5e dmg: "At their innermost edges, where they are closest to the material plane(in a conceptual sense if not a literal sense), the four elemental planes resemble places in the material plane. The four elements mingle together as they do in the material plane, forming land, sea, and sky. But the dominant plane exerts a strong influence on the environment. Reflecting its fundamental properties."
The planes are infinite in 3 dimensions and the "surface" that the plane of water has is just an artifact of the material plane bleeding through, like how the ethereal plane still has walls and gravity of the material plane even if you can float through them.
Another quote from the same page on the DMG: " As they extend farther from the material plane, the elemental planes become increasingly alien and hostile. Here, in the outermost regions, the elements exist in their purest forms: great expanses of solid earth, blazing fire, crystal clear water, and unsullied air."
I imagine if your ship got pulled into the plane of water from the material plane and you just sailed for thousands of miles the humidity would increase to the point your entire ship would be underwater without anyone noticing.
@@chronozon937 perhaps that might be right but i find it more belivable, that you would just find a wall made of water that curlls upwards and if you trevelled upon it it would eventualy turn into mist and clouds above the centre where all of the elementall planes combine with the material one.
Totally agreed. The 5e is such a dumb edition
9:00 Pathfinder art alert! That's the image used in River Kingdoms for Outsea. Outsea was created by China Meville, and if you read Guide to the River Kingdoms, you *might* come to understand why Paizo never made a habit of inviting in guest writers...
No one cares dude 😂
@@staticcharm3808 You cared enough to respond.
As a 2nd level spell, 'Alter Self' can get you a 1 hour adventure there and has certain advantages over just 'Water Breathing'. 😄
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN ABOUT BABYYYY WHERE MY HYDROHOMIES AT!?
I'm at Norway, don't know about the rest
The problem I see, is lacking a seafloor.... you lack somewhere for a reef or such to grow... Perhaps could get around this by having reefs grow on massive creatures. (Or any floating rocks like pockets of earth would be ABSOUTLUTELY COVERED by reefs where they are far and few between)
Homebrew a type of coral that creates air bubbles inside itself to become buoyant. Get massive reefs of various 3 dimensional shapes, littered with caves and tunnels, swarming with all kinds of tropical reef fauna. If it gets damaged or diseased and sinks to far, away from any light source, into the depths, and gets infested with carrion eating and undead versions. This does depend on a light source at the "top" of the plane. Older versions had a positive energy plane, and if you place it near one "edge" of the elemental plane of water, that can become the top, and the opposite edge would border on the negative energy plane, and be dark, all without gravity or the pressure that would kill characters. Constant unwavering day at the "Top" and eternal night at the "bottom" and dim light in between.
Large coral bodies produce their own gravity (for cities/buildings), and saving one from sinking by tracking down a mcguffin might make a good quest.
He literally explains this exact point in the video. Sea stuff accumulates until it becomes big enough to simulate a sea floor. Critical listening skills.
I'm not sure if I'd be terrified or comforted seeing the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man in an endless aquatic abyss.
For grim John the human monk he is disguised as a AVERAGE walker but when he is angered or he becomes large but if you do not make him angry he will not fight you and can actually help you along the journey,
What they don't tell you about the elemental plane of water?
With all that water sloshing around all the time, you will *constantly* find yourself needing to pee and *everyone* just goes in the water, even if they pretend they don't.
I don't play DnD but find Forgotten Realms lore very interesting
You are the majority. Most viewers don’t play. They just really like fantasy lore.
I cant wait for Grimhollow. I've been making a Grandmother Hag for my part to encounter. She's a beast of a hag who's lived for centuries with the abilities of almost every kind, having been one of each type of hag before her apotheosis.
That new description sounds like a plane of endless oceans rather than the elemental plane of water. I guess someone was playing around with elemental pockets and created a plane within a plane. They could have been a bit more creative.
Never clicked on a video so quick
How sad for you. Go outside.
@@snorgonofborkkad not sure if you’re a troll or just a massive jerk
as a man who has a fear of living in the ocean...
*I'd suffer here*
DUDE!!!! WTF I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS SINCE TUESDAY!!!!! this is the third time you make a video on something I was thinking about and wanted to know more about! this is awesome!
I like to think of it as the distance from the surface of water in the plane to the very bottom ( if there is one) is immeasurable, like you could swim theoretically forever and never reach it. And you have various gigantic pieces of rock which could be assumed to stretch down to the depths, where one could interpret these giant continental pieces as a sea floor.
So depending on where you appear in the plane it could seem endless to reach the surface or bottom.
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"What is canon?" Easy: 2nd Edition is canon. Later editions can supplement, not replace.
Yo MrRhexx I haven't played a d&d game in 5+ years but every video you drop is amazing, I feel like it's a gift. Keep it up!
I have always thought that it has always had sky and earth. The "closer" you get to the Plane of Air or at least towards the portals you get sky, and then the "closer" you get to the Plane of Earth you start getting rocks and islands, and with portals being everywhere you get areas in which there "normal" islands. With the older manuals you can see the islands that are closer to Prime and the other Planes.
It has always been an interesting Plane since there is always been light, a sun that you can never reach, and currents that go anywhere to infinity.
I know that it's a game so game logic applies. But you NEED AIR. Fish breathe air, not water. They breathe IN the water, but they are still breathing the air in the water. To also create/have a fire. You need all three of these things. Heat, oxygen, and fuel. Take away anyone of those three things from a fire and the fire will die. So at the very least, the plane of fire would need to have oxygen.
Fun fact, Earth gets most of its oxygen from the ocean. I know it's bonkers. Look it up!
This video was very helpful. I wasn't trying to attack you or anyone I just wanted to point this interesting stuff out! (Love your dragon videos btw)
Elementals are by far one of my favorote DnD topics. Not much knowledge on how they exist, move, how to fight them etc etc. Water elementals are a personal favorite
I love the idea of a reef the size of a moon just floating through the plane of water
On the topic of water pressure maybe it’s a subjective thing. Like if theirs a big enough object simulating the conditions of gravity that has an ocean floor or even trenches?
The problem with the supposition that “there is no other elements in the planes other than the ones that bleed into the other planes” is that, if that were the case, you wouldn’t be able to breath the water. Fish don’t breath water, they simply filter the oxygen molecules diffused into the water using their gills. Lungs are just heavily modified gills, meant to filter oxygen out of the air.
Because there’s no air in the elemental plane of earth, that must mean that oxygen is considered air. So if fish are able to breath, that means that air has diffused entirely through that plane, and then wouldn’t that make the entire plane of water really the plane of water and air?
Also, how does the city of glass work? Ice floats, but there’s supposedly no gravity and no core center of mass so what happens?
Learning more about Merfolk and Tridents would be nice, their culture and history with their gods
You should check out AJ Pickett, he's a pretty good lore master for DnD and has got videos on merfolk and Tridents
They could make some of the initial discrepancies work out. Islands work out pretty well at the junction between air and water planes more than ice does. The sun also doesn't really need to be a thing of fire in the fantasy setting - it could just be a source of light that dims and brightens in places closer to the positive energy plane, and have similar zones of darkness and high water pressure associated with the negative energy plane.
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE👍👍👍 as a natural water sign, and one who prefers undersea campaigns this is my FAVORITE plane!!!! Thank you
yay a new video, seriously my favorite YT channel. Watching and listening to this stories gives me the same feeling as if I just read a good book. Thank you
Hello Mr. Rhexx,
If you are making a "Kissing Hag", would you include a youngling version of the creature.
I would call it a "Weeper."
The Weeper is a deceiving monster that imitates the cries of children or young ladies. Thus, the name.
It preys on the weak, foolish, and caring.
Often you'll find these creatures in shadows.
The Weeper uncommonly cast illusions. But unlike the adult Hag, these illusions are easily dispelled.
Therefore, the reason they hide in shadows and dark corners.
Anyways, this is my idea for the children of the "Kissing Hag" creature.
I hope that you'll consider it. Anyways, love your videos. And will be waiting for the Elemental Plane of Water creature video.
I want you to know your channel inspired my most ambitious DnD campaign ever which I have named Absolute Origins! Your channel is pure dnd gold and thank you so much for putting that amount of effort into these videos, I love them!
idk how it's ment to be, in my interpretation there are 3 sections of the plane: up middle and down. you have to specifically teleport to a location of the three becouse the space that sets them apart is infinite.
the upper section has a "low sky" that is not very tall and the "su"n isn't a star but a smaller fireball made of magical flames and elemental light at the edge of the sky, if you go above it you find yourself just a few feets under the surface of the water. the upmost part has islands, some life and if you go deep enough some rocky formations covered in coral and with more life.
the second section is composed of underwather caves, only some of the light penetrates down there and it's the most lively part, were hotsprings are present and many kinds of fishes
the third part is pure, compleately darck ocean, only krakens and other wather godly beengs that don't require food live there...
the reason is becouse the first two parts are contaminated with other elements, while the deepest wathers no, the "sun" emits supernatural light that can expand trugh the infinite waters and in the upper part of the caves. but in the deepest part, there is nothing else, ironically the floor isn't the lowest point
Couldn't the "sun" just be the plane of fire in the distance?j
@@Major_Pixel No because fire can’t activate photosynthesis. The light needs to be a giant magic grow lamp.
@@Major_Pixel sounds cool, a portal to the fire plane or something similar
If that is your interpretation and it works for you then cool. Better than those lameass writing from WoTC.
But to me, that borrows too much from the upper and lower planes. To me, elemental planes should be planes that are infinite in ALL directions with no need for artifical divides between "levels".
Of course, why will there be borders if the planes are each infinite is also logically inconsistent. So to me, massive pockets of mixture of elements works better for in game lore than an infinite border between two infinite plane .. which then few can ever approach by travelling.
Still to reach its own and your interpretation is certainly more interesting than the 5e new "canon". Although i think your second layer needs to be the third bottom layer since that will be the border with the plane of earth.
as a dm who mainly does 5th addition but use to play 3rd. i always like both versions of the planes and so mixed them in my lore, in my world there is air in the elemental plane of water there is a surface however going above the water brings you into the elemental plane of air, two pieces of nature that forever exist together, and on a similar note i also thought that if you where to dig under the ocean floor you would find yourself in the elemental plane of earth. (the fire plane is left out slightly still being able to be accesses via the earth plane but its influence is seen in other planes almost like a bleeding wound)
I'm noticed that the Rebel Drow ship "The Scarlett marpenoth" in Waterdeep is a lot like the Avenger. The Avenger likely the inspiration behind the famous bregan d'aerthe submarine. I was halfway through Waterdeep (with my triton cleric - Forge Domain as a nod to persona's sculpting skills ) when I realized that "marpenoth" is a month in the forgotten realms calendar, it is the first month of autumn. So marpenoth is basically October. Hmm, Scarlet Marpenoth....Red October....*Facepalm
So to explain.(I LITERALLY AM OBSESSED WITH THE GAME MY GRAMPS WORKED AND MADE WITH HIS FRIENDS) A cataclysm of magic occurred shattering realms and making microcosms within the planes. Making the singular planes more diverse… and more dangerous. Anyway it’s partly explained in the forgotten realms series by R.A.Salvatore. Basically magic broke for a bit so the realms mixed with eachother and some greater magics dissipated.
But Rhexx, if the water plane is suposed to be heaven for acuatic creatures, what happens to marine mammals? They need to breath air, so they can't really live in infinite water but they can't live on land either.
Does this mean that the dolphins don't have a heaven? Do they have a special one only for them? So many questions, so little answers xD.
Btw, huge fan of your videos keep up with the good work dude
The reason why there needs to be a surface in the plane of water is because of dolphins, whales, turtles, and other forms of marine life that aren’t fish. This is why fifth edition makes sense, because it knows dolphins aren’t fish.
There are many pockets of elemental air inside of the water! These pockets are protected and cared for by different aquatic civilizations, and in there they keep the air breathing aquatic creatures.
A creature that feeds off of the happiness and positive emotions of others. It's a fairly shy creature and doesn't like to be seen so it typically hides and can change its hieght to help with this. In exchange for its sated hunger it leaves wards of power to instigate more positive actions and emotions. Essentially a creature that feeds its self while positively impacting others.
could assume that there is an infinitely long surface where the elemental planes of air and water touch. Both would still be infinite volumes of air and water, there would just be a surface where they touch, and where islands could be.
That's what I was thinking too. Only problem is where's supposed to be a sort of demiplane of ice where they meet. So an infinite sheet of ice with water on one side and air on the other maybe?
If the water is warm, then I don't see there being ice everywhere, especially since the plane of air isn't supposedly cold everywhere. Maybe it is that there are portions that are icy, and portions that are not
A fittingly chilling end well done!
I can see that the area described in the DMG was just one area that was usable by most planar travellers. That sky and sun is not infinite, it's just part of a super big bubble. Fly high enough long enough you would reach the other side of the water bubble.